ColonelAngus
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Putin plays chess, Obama plays Chutes and Ladders.
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On one hand I agree with Trump's goal of normalizing relations with Russia and allying with Russia to fight terrorism. On the other hand, Obama is setting up Trump pretty for negotiations with Russia.
With NATO forces in the Baltics and Northern Norway, and NATO anti-ballistic missile systems in Poland, Trump can negotiate and end to Russia's nuclear missile buildup, a bilateral reduction in nuclear missiles, an end to Russian support for Ukrainian separatists, a demilitarized Eastern Europe & Western Russia and possibly Russia to pressure North Korea to end it's nuclear program.
The art of the deal starts with negotiating from a position of strength.
This just seems to be destabilizing the situation.
But as I said, I'm not sure how to feel about this.
We will all have to wait and see how it comes out.
I still think it's more politically motivated.
Anxious, right where the power structure wants you.
Okay, so he starts hostilities . . .Barry may be fantasizing about starting a war and somehow remaining president....he's a dreamer.
Okay, so he starts hostilities . . .Barry may be fantasizing about starting a war and somehow remaining president....he's a dreamer.
and then what?
His term ends January 20th. You can't impeach someone that isn't in office.
There have already been rumors that Obama's intelligence people are connected with that assassination of the Russian ambassador to Turkey.
Then there is this. . .
Erdoğan says Istanbul nightclub attack sought to create chaos in Turkey
Erdoğan says Istanbul nightclub attack sought to create chaos in Turkey - POLITICS
Erdoğan said the fight against terrorism, and “the powers behind them,” will continue with determination.
Turkey is well aware who built ISIS, why? Because they helped. And now in his last days, Obama is pushing Turkey even further into the arms of Russia?
WTF?!
US and NATO troops are already deployed to this region and country. We operating facilities. Any further deployments are reinforcements.
The last time this specific area was in the news was when Russian jets were launched to make simulated runs on a US Navy destroyer.
Russia has been building its forces in this area for some time. Any deployment of any additional US or NATO forces is a response to Russian increases in its own forces to the area.
I agree that Russia is a bad actor.
Should we be doing this NOW before a new president comes in?
That seems very irresponsible and politically motivated.
Why do you agree that Russia is a "bad actor?"
What proof do you have that they are a threat to US national security?
I don't think they are.
They are a bad actor as far as aggression to their neighbors.
I just don't know if we want to go to war over it.
The Question is 'WHY is Barry doing it?'
Is it because Russia prevented him from helping overthrow Assad?
Is it because Russia decimated the Syrian terrorists/rebels he armed/trained/was helping?
Is it because of his false claim that Russia 'hacked the election'?
Is it because he did nothing to stop Crimea being annexed and he caught hell for it?
Is it because his failures reminded people of his failed response to Romney about Russia, proving to people now Romney was right?
Is it because Putin made it seem as if he was the 'adult in the room' when he refused to retaliate after Barry kicked out Russian Ambassadors?
Or is it just to leave a pile of fecal matter for Trump to have to deal with when he steps into the WH?
Oooookay, Comrade.US and NATO troops are already deployed to this region and country. We operating facilities. Any further deployments are reinforcements.
The last time this specific area was in the news was when Russian jets were launched to make simulated runs on a US Navy destroyer.
Russia has been building its forces in this area for some time. Any deployment of any additional US or NATO forces is a response to Russian increases in its own forces to the area.
I agree that Russia is a bad actor.
Should we be doing this NOW before a new president comes in?
That seems very irresponsible and politically motivated.
Why do you agree that Russia is a "bad actor?"
What proof do you have that they are a threat to US national security?
I don't think they are.
They are a bad actor as far as aggression to their neighbors.
I just don't know if we want to go to war over it.
Russia has not been aggressive with any neighbor with the exception of rescuing the Crimeans at their request after the US backed coup in western Ukraine.
On the other hand we in the west having been backing terrorists in the ME throwing the whole region into chaos.
Oooookay, Comrade.US and NATO troops are already deployed to this region and country. We operating facilities. Any further deployments are reinforcements.
The last time this specific area was in the news was when Russian jets were launched to make simulated runs on a US Navy destroyer.
Russia has been building its forces in this area for some time. Any deployment of any additional US or NATO forces is a response to Russian increases in its own forces to the area.
I agree that Russia is a bad actor.
Should we be doing this NOW before a new president comes in?
That seems very irresponsible and politically motivated.
Why do you agree that Russia is a "bad actor?"
What proof do you have that they are a threat to US national security?
I don't think they are.
They are a bad actor as far as aggression to their neighbors.
I just don't know if we want to go to war over it.
Russia has not been aggressive with any neighbor with the exception of rescuing the Crimeans at their request after the US backed coup in western Ukraine.
On the other hand we in the west having been backing terrorists in the ME throwing the whole region into chaos.
I fear there is more politics than necessity in this move.
What do other people think? I just really don't know how I feel about this one. Just fear it was politically motivated.
There are some Russian propaganda points you left out. Perhaps you should study your instructions better comrade.Oooookay, Comrade.I agree that Russia is a bad actor.
Should we be doing this NOW before a new president comes in?
That seems very irresponsible and politically motivated.
Why do you agree that Russia is a "bad actor?"
What proof do you have that they are a threat to US national security?
I don't think they are.
They are a bad actor as far as aggression to their neighbors.
I just don't know if we want to go to war over it.
Russia has not been aggressive with any neighbor with the exception of rescuing the Crimeans at their request after the US backed coup in western Ukraine.
On the other hand we in the west having been backing terrorists in the ME throwing the whole region into chaos.
I'm correct. Since Obama took office he and other western leaders forced Mubarak to step down, backed the terror group the Muslim Brotherhood.
Took out Gaddafi and turned the country over to various terror cells. Still trying to depose Assad. Allowing Saudi Arabia to bomb the shit out of Yemen.
Made no move as ISIS waltzed into Iraq. And backed the Ukrainian coup and handed Kiev to nazi lovers.
What's Putin done?
Oblama will also not empty the waste baskets around his desk..obama just wants to leave office in total chaos. A war on one hand, hundreds of bogus lawsuits on the other and blame Trump for all of it.
Reagan would have been proud of him..Oooookay, Comrade.I agree that Russia is a bad actor.
Should we be doing this NOW before a new president comes in?
That seems very irresponsible and politically motivated.
Why do you agree that Russia is a "bad actor?"
What proof do you have that they are a threat to US national security?
I don't think they are.
They are a bad actor as far as aggression to their neighbors.
I just don't know if we want to go to war over it.
Russia has not been aggressive with any neighbor with the exception of rescuing the Crimeans at their request after the US backed coup in western Ukraine.
On the other hand we in the west having been backing terrorists in the ME throwing the whole region into chaos.
I'm correct. Since Obama took office he and other western leaders forced Mubarak to step down, backed the terror group the Muslim Brotherhood.
Took out Gaddafi and turned the country over to various terror cells. Still trying to depose Assad. Allowing Saudi Arabia to bomb the shit out of Yemen.
Made no move as ISIS waltzed into Iraq. And backed the Ukrainian coup and handed Kiev to nazi lovers.
What's Putin done?
obama wants to start a very serious war because his feelings are hurt.