Hobbit
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Originally posted by jeffperkinstech
I see SO many of your posts JimNYC and do you know why I RARELY respond to any of them? Because they are the stupid droolings of an intellectual midget. I'll use this post to illustrate my point. You wrote 3 sentences and said, at least, 5 stupid things. Now that's talent!
ONE: You say that it is Bill Clinton's fault that terrorists piloted a floating bomb into the USS Cole. Ok then, by that logic, it is then George Bush's fault that terrorists flew commercial airliners as missiles into the Trade Center and Pentagon. Wouldn't you agree? No? Oh. I'm enlightened to see that they hypocracy and duplicity of the GOP leadership is shared by thier GOPhers.
TWO: Are you insinuating that Bush shouldn't have done anything since it was on Clintons watch? I sure hope, a little puzzy boy like you gets, somehow forced or tricked into the Military and you gets killed near the time of the 'cusp' of a new Presidential Administration and no action is taken to make sure your death wasn't in vein. If you subscribe to such non-sense thinking you should fall victim to it.
THREE: Authorities have found, captured, prosecuted and incarcerated most of the masterminds behind the '93 Trade Center bombing. Did you sleep through the last decade?
FOUR: Clinton did not do anything about the USS Cole. The link I posted talked about that. IT WAS THE VERY CRUX OF THE POINT OF MY POST!!!!! Clinton talked about not retaliating for the bombing of the USS Cole (since you didn't read it, or understand it or something) because the intelligence did not conclusively point to Al-Queda while he was in office. I can't abide by that story. There must have, at least been a 'purponderance of evidence' at the time he was still in office, and he should have used what he had for en excusse for a strike. Even if, afterward, it turned out they didn't do it...could the final results be bad anyway you go about it? We still hit an enemy that had struck us before and will try to continue to do so.
FIVE: I admit assuming this, but it's not like you don't give me AMPLE reason to do so....You sound as if Clinton never did anything to terrorists, Al-Queda or Osama Bin Ladin. He only tried to kill Osama Bin Ladin 3 times, made 2 bombing strikes on Al-Queda strong holds and coreographed a multi-national task force from the various international police agencies to track and disable the Al-Queda network through a multi-tude of ways. A system that NEVER EXISTED until Clinton took power.
See why I don't respond to many of your posts? I don't have the time to constantly respond to all your illogical falisies and B.S.
, then we will have a civil exchange of ideas, no matter how far apart they might be. But your actions have to match your wordsI look at each argument individually as a logical argument. I don't believe in attempting to disqualify the entirety of an individual based on his patterns of belief
if you want to be believed.like you seem so proud of doing. Frankly, I don't believe you could deconstruct the point at the top of your own head.
GREAT point! I would only say that I think the difference is that the values of Conservative\Liberal party lines are not good for the majority of Americans and our lives. If we could just PICK AND CHOOSE pieces of the Liberal values that (sorry guys facts are facts) HAVE worked for US and Conservative values that have worked for US and throw out everything else, surplanting those discarded ideals with those other ideals that belong to other political policies that have worked for other countries that have either avoided or solved problems we currently suffer under domestically.On a side note, you criticize us for being sheep because we tend to agree with conservative/liberal values most of the time while you have your own ideas, but if we agreed with you, wouldn't that make us sheep?
DON'T ATTACK ME AND I WILL NOT ATTACK YOU. Very simple. I will not have my hands tied while stones are thown in my face. For those of you that have not attacked me personally (of which here there are few, but I don't believe you have Hobbit) I apologize. For the rest of you, I will give back, at least, as good as I get. Want to knock the childish name calling off? Then stop it yourself.Now, once and for all, stop insulting all of us and try to have a more civil conversation.
Nice qualifing tactics you use. Desparate tools of the foolhearty. I bet those here of my age or less that are in your Conservative camp feel real good about your drol comparisions you draw between age and mentality. And for the record I am 29. Also, I see you use the same media tactics your propaganda post FOX news uses to spew lies to the American public under the guise of 'Journalisim' by taking a part of a volly of barbs that me and Sir_Evil were exchanging and pulling it WAY out of context. On a side note....my 29 years are worth more than many peoples 50 years of life. I have lived through more than my fair share and am very well traveled (and not in the sense of a tourist).Folks, keep in mind the potential age group we are working with.
YOUR the one morally bankrupt. I know this Earthly life is rewarding greed and corruption...but you just wait. This is NOT the way of things in our next eternal life and by the time you get there it will be too late to change your ways and your heart. He will have already have put his judgement upon you. I am the son of a pastor. That, by NO STRECH OF THE IMMAGINATION, mean I am an angel. Oh, quite the contrary. I am as flawed and sinfull as everyone else. However I don't try and disguise my sins in money, success and rightousness. I don't use God's word against Him and what He wants from us. I refuse to be a stumbling block for new and potential Christians. I also will not be a party to the theft of anothers God given free agentcy as part of Satan's plan to unsurp our salvation by not making moral individual choices free. What is the value of a 'good decision' if you were forced to make it? NONE!Not to mention being morally bankrupt if not able to commit to defining right and wrong.
Originally posted by Hobbit
*grabs popcorn*
Originally posted by jeffperkinstech
DON'T ATTACK ME AND I WILL NOT ATTACK YOU.
Originally posted by jeffperkinstech
Very simple. I will not have my hands tied while stones are thown in my face.
Originally posted by jeffperkinstech
For those of you that have not attacked me personally (of which here there are few, but I don't believe you have Hobbit) I apologize. For the rest of you, I will give back, at least, as good as I get. Want to knock the childish name calling off? Then stop it yourself.
Oh, quite the contrary. I am as flawed and sinfull as everyone else. However I don't try and disguise my sins in money, success and rightousness. I don't use God's word against Him and what He wants from us. I refuse to be a stumbling block for new and potential Christians.
Black and white, yes or no, true or false, Right or Left....these are all examples of TWO DIMENSIONAL THINKING. Take any collage course that deals with this subject matter and the consensous is that Two Dimensional Thinking is an inferior mentality to most other ways of decision making. Ever notice on a true or false test that words like 'always', 'never', 'every' and 'nothing' usually indicated a 'false' answer? That is because those words are called absolutes. Just like black and white, yes or no, true or false, Right or Left.
Christ cried out, gave us freedom, and does it by Biblical mandate as he IS the Word.Further more you are just another person that tries to use Biblical mandate to force a personal morality code on all those that live, dispite thier personal belief system. And you talk about freedom. I am always amazed at the person that crys freedom at the start of a paragraph and then revokes freedom by the end of it.
Originally posted by gop_jeff
Another point of order... can we please call me Jeff, and call this other dude something else? JPTech, JPT, Tech, Perkins... anything but Jeff? Please?
Originally posted by jeffperkinstech
rtwngAvngr: Avatar4321: Save your BS for someone that will fall for it. You are the most arrogant of them all and most don't realize it.
You and all the other 'black and white' thinkers are just SO wise aren't you? Of all the complex and complicated issues of not only this day but of all the days before this one, you and Bill O'Rielley just have it ALL figured out don't you?
Forget about the collective intelligence that exists today that can't wrap thier heads around all these problems plus all of the generations of intelligence that has already past.
Oh yes, you are just so enlightened over the rest of us. So since you are so wise and all knowing, what I am going to say to you next will be nothing new.
Black and white, yes or no, true or false, Right or Left....these are all examples of TWO DIMENSIONAL THINKING. Take any collage course that deals with this subject matter and the consensous is that Two Dimensional Thinking is an inferior mentality to most other ways of decision making. Ever notice on a true or false test that words like 'always', 'never', 'every' and 'nothing' usually indicated a 'false' answer? That is because those words are called absolutes. Just like black and white, yes or no, true or false, Right or Left.
Further more you are just another person that tries to use Biblical mandate to force a personal morality code on all those that live, dispite thier personal belief system. And you talk about freedom. I am always amazed at the person that crys freedom at the start of a paragraph and then revokes freedom by the end of it.