I might vote for Hillary Clinton now!

[Boss]

I'm hoping that both trump and clinton suffer a health calamity that renders them unable to carry out being potus. I'd prefer them to both suffer this calamity tomorrow and have the race be between Pence and Kaine.

I agree... Pence would trounce Kaine. We'd have a conservative in the white house.

 

[Searcher44]

Lots of shit went back and forth during the primary campaigns. Trump made malicious ad hominem attacks on just about everybody. Most of them "shook hands" and wrote it off as "just politics". Why couldn't Cruz man-up, swallow his pride for the good of the party and say something like "I still think Donald owes Heidi an apology but I think its so important a republican becomes president I'm going to vote for him and urge everybody else to do so, and hopefully he'll do the right thing by Heidi." Trump would have probably apologized and Cruz wouldn't have added to his reputation as a self-centered asshole.

I don't think Cruz hurt himself. I think the only people making that claim are Trump supporters and liberals who hated him on general principle anyway. Honestly... and I mean this will total sincerity... I would have lost respect for him if he had said "I endorse Donald Trump" in his speech. I think that he came as close to that as he could without saying those words and I am perfectly comfortable with that... as should Donald Trump be, given the nasty attacks made on his family.

People want to yammer about "pouting and childish behavior" but to me, the ones who are displaying childish behavior are Trump and his supporters who are attacking Ted Cruz all over again. They claim that Cruz is irrelevant and his endorsement isn't important but then they're attacking him for not endorsing! Which fucking one is it??? I'll tell you what it is... it's major immature butthurt because Cruz didn't endorse their candidate. They can't grow the fuck up and get over that! ....Not everyone LOVES Donald Trump!

liberals who hated him on general principle anyway

Well that's got me covered.

People want to yammer about "pouting and childish behavior" but to me, the ones who are displaying childish behavior are Trump

I have to agree with that too, Trump's the first to whine like a baby if someone trades him blow for blow. Look at all the crying he did when Megyn Kelly challenged his misogynistic insults to various women.

They claim that Cruz is irrelevant

I wonder...Does Cruz have any relevancy? Most of his colleagues, Republican and Democratic can't stand him. Most probably agree with Lindsey Graham - “If you killed Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was in the Senate, nobody would convict you.”

Not everyone LOVES Donald Trump!

That's an understatement. Near 60% unfavorable in latest polls? Good thing he's running against the most unpopular....(I shouldn't say b-i-t-c-h should I?) no I can't, I'll say "most unpopular" candidate the Dems have ever fielded. It's one of those unfathomable coincidences in history these two happen to run into each other on the same political stage. It's downright eerie, almost enough to make you believe in God if you're an atheist, or decide God must be dead if you're a devout believer.

 

[Synthaholic]

Does anyone believe that the OP was ever NOT going to vote for Hillary?

How long have you been around these forums?

Do you have ANY evidence from my thousands of posts, that I have EVER supported Hillary Clinton... on ANYTHING?

Why don't you go crawl back in the hole you came out of?

I've been here longer than both of you, and Boss has been a wingnut since he joined. He's an extremist conservative, Tea Party guy. One who voted for Bush twice, supported the Iraq War, defended Bush at every turn. Then when Bush shit the bed, and we elected the Black guy, he became the anti-establishment, anti-Washington, anti-science, anti-compromise, anti-legislate obstruction fan.

And that's the same exact description of a bunch of Right-Wingers on this board.

Boss is no Liberal. I don't know if he fits this week's definition of a conservative, but he isn't a Liberal.

 

[Synthaholic]

I love the New York Daily News.

 

[Searcher44]

Trump is bad for conservatism, Hellary is worse. That's all. It's not an endorsement for The big orange clown, it's actually a greater indictment of the pantsuit bull dyke. Try to put your hurt feelings aside, and if your child's life depended on it, who is worse for constitutional conservatism?

The way his supporters are behaving.... Hillary is better for constitutional conservatives. Sorry... that's just what I believe. She's not MUCH better... don't want to give her too much credit... but at least we know what we're getting.

All conservatives can hope for at this point is that we can hold the senate and house, and maybe send up a few more tea party conservatives to replace the RINO clowns who want to slobber all over the liberals. Hillary will win the general election now.. there's no path to victory for Trump without conservatives. All we can hope is that she gets her corrupt ass entangled in scandal... which you know is bound to happen... and she won't be able to push through her agenda in 4 years.

SCOTUS picks are a wash at this point... I have NO confidence that Trump would nominate true constitutional conservatives to the court and I actually think we might see more moderate picks from an embattled Hillary than an emboldened Trump. The picks will still have to be approved by Congress.

I'm hoping that both trump and clinton suffer a health calamity that renders them unable to carry out being potus. I'd prefer them to both suffer this calamity tomorrow and have the race be between Pence and Kaine.

I can't go along with wishing physical harm on either. How about Trump going to jail for one of his frauds and Hillary going to jail for....whatever.

Pence and Kaine would be a real snooze fest though wouldn't it. Debate night would be a gift to all American insomniacs.

 

[Searcher44]

Oh, I realize that is going to shock some people and raise some eyebrows. I haven't made up my mind just yet... I might just write-in my vote for Ted Cruz. But after the way Cruz has been treated by the Trump brigade, I am done with you people! I will actively campaign against your candidate and I might even cast my vote for Hillary, just to spite you.

So congratulations... I am a conservative who could have held my nose and voted for Trump to keep Hillary out of the white house... and in less than 24 hours, you have convinced me to NOT vote for YOUR candidate. Not only, not vote for him, but to actively campaign against him.

This was THE moment in the campaign where you could've shown some class and allowed Cruz to have some dignity and respect, but you chose to start the "Lyin' Ted" crap again and re-hash the primary campaign instead of reaching out to unify the party. ALL any of you needed to do was to shut your pie holes for a day... let Cruz have his moment... appreciate his message for what it was, a call to unity... an endorsement of Republican values and support for the platform.... but you just couldn't bring yourselves to do that... you had to go and start trashing the man again.

Well smart asses, you've lost my support! You can do this without me! You don't need MY vote! So go fuck yourselves and win it without me! In fact, win it with ME vocally campaigning AGAINST you! Because that's the way YOU wanted this... not me. I will now turn my attention to the down ballot races and electing principled constitutional conservatives who hold my values and the values of Ted Cruz. As for the presidency... I don't give two shits anymore who wins! If it's Hillary... so be it! I had actually RATHER it be Hillary than for you arrogant assholes to enjoy a victory. I am THAT pissed off! You smugly believe that you've unified the party through your trashing and smearing of a great man....WRONG... you've just cost Donald Trump ANY chance of winning this election.

Lots of shit went back and forth during the primary campaigns. Trump made malicious ad hominem attacks on just about everybody. Most of them "shook hands" and wrote it off as "just politics". Why couldn't Cruz man-up, swallow his pride for the good of the party and say something like "I still think Donald owes Heidi an apology but I think its so important a republican becomes president I'm going to vote for him and urge everybody else to do so, and hopefully he'll do the right thing by Heidi." Trump would have probably apologized and Cruz wouldn't have added to his reputation as a self-centered asshole.

Because Cruz has principles and endorsing an ignorant narcissistic jackass isn't one of them.

Are you saying that anyone who votes for Trump is unprincipled and is voting for an ignorant narcissistic jackass?

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

15.1 percent. Keep posting on Cruz.

Yes... keep mocking conservatives and keep bashing Cruz... that's going to win the election!

Dingbat!

I'm not mocking conservatives or Cruz in that instance. I'm mocking you, specifically. I used to think when you touted non-realities that you were trolling. Now, I just wonder if you simply have low comprehension.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

For the past 3 days, there has been an onslaught of relentless attacks on Ted Cruz. From the media, Trump supporters and sycophants and Trump himself. Rehashing all the nasty, scurrilous and largely untrue and unfounded attacks which dominated the primary race. It has become an embarrassing spectacle from a fractured and polarized party which desperately needed to join together in unity.

I love how Cruz disenfranchises voters, and you think you are the one who is entitled to be the victim. Cruz is lower than slime to Trumpians who have learned there is no low that man won't hit in his quest for power.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Does anyone believe that the OP was ever NOT going to vote for Hillary?

Dunno if I believe it or not. I just mock him for calling himself a conservative and a potential Hillary voter. Those are, like, polar forces.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Do you have ANY evidence from my thousands of posts, that I have EVER supported Hillary Clinton... on ANYTHING?

Which only speaks to how butthurt you really are! Trump destroys Cruz, and you try to go into hostage mode. 'I'm gonna vote for Hillary if you guys don't admit how awesome Lyin' Ted is!'

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Because Cruz has principles and endorsing an ignorant narcissistic jackass isn't one of them.

Yea, I think we all learned about his principles when he was telling non establishment GOP'ers that they didn't get a vote. No thanks.

 

[Kosh]

Does anyone believe that the OP was ever NOT going to vote for Hillary?

How long have you been around these forums?

Do you have ANY evidence from my thousands of posts, that I have EVER supported Hillary Clinton... on ANYTHING?

Why don't you go crawl back in the hole you came out of?

I've been here longer than both of you, and Boss has been a wingnut since he joined. He's an extremist conservative, Tea Party guy. One who voted for Bush twice, supported the Iraq War, defended Bush at every turn. Then when Bush shit the bed, and we elected the Black guy, he became the anti-establishment, anti-Washington, anti-science, anti-compromise, anti-legislate obstruction fan.

And that's the same exact description of a bunch of Right-Wingers on this board.

Boss is no Liberal. I don't know if he fits this week's definition of a conservative, but he isn't a Liberal.

And you are a far left drone!

Which means you ain't no liberal either!

 

[Kosh]

Anyone voting for Hilary is wasting their vote!

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

I don't think Cruz hurt himself.

He didn't hurt himself; he killed himself in terms of ever being president.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Now... For the record, I have not stated that I am GOING to vote for Hillary Clinton. If you will take the time to actually READ what I posted, I said that I MIGHT do so.... You understand the difference between the two, or do I need to explain that to you

I understand the difference. You haven't blown your brains out; you're just holding the gun to your head. Have fun with that.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Does anyone believe that the OP was ever NOT going to vote for Hillary?

How long have you been around these forums?

Do you have ANY evidence from my thousands of posts, that I have EVER supported Hillary Clinton... on ANYTHING?

Why don't you go crawl back in the hole you came out of?

I've been here longer than both of you, and Boss has been a wingnut since he joined. He's an extremist conservative, Tea Party guy. One who voted for Bush twice, supported the Iraq War, defended Bush at every turn. Then when Bush shit the bed, and we elected the Black guy, he became the anti-establishment, anti-Washington, anti-science, anti-compromise, anti-legislate obstruction fan.

And that's the same exact description of a bunch of Right-Wingers on this board.

Boss is no Liberal. I don't know if he fits this week's definition of a conservative, but he isn't a Liberal.

Talking out of your ass as usual.@Boss has been here since 2011. Yet you're talking about a bunch of sh** way before that.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

I don't think Cruz hurt himself. I think the only people making that claim are Trump supporters and liberals who hated him on general principle anyway. Honestly... and I mean this will total sincerity... I would have lost respect for him if he had said "I endorse Donald Trump" in his speech. I think that he came as close to that as he could without saying those words and I am perfectly comfortable with that... as should Donald Trump be, given the nasty attacks made on his family.

Trump has been ridiculously nice about Cruz's family. In that Friday presser, he was very complimentary of Heidi Cruz, who is basically a Republican Hillary-Lite. But he took the high road. But let's not mince words; Ted Cruz is not a fucking victim; he's a lying asshole who would take my vote away in a heartbeat if he thought it'd help him. He's repeatedly lied to the American people. He has fucked over a lot of people, least of which: Ben Carson. You keep pretending your a victim, ass deuche. Just go vote for Hillary, you big fucking baby.

 

[Kosh]

Voting far left is throwing your vote away and is never the answer!

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

This alone is a reason to put Lyin' Ted down, politically speaking. This was only his opening salvo though. Boss trying to play the victim card. Fuck that.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/fir...ape-of-ted-cruz-worker-spreading-rumors/?_r=0

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

This alone is a reason to put Lyin' Ted down, politically speaking. This was only his opening salvo though. Boss trying to play the victim card. Fuck that.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/fir...ape-of-ted-cruz-worker-spreading-rumors/?_r=0

As Iowa Republicans headed to the caucuses on Monday night, Senator Ted Cruz’s campaign left recorded messages for supporters with “breaking news” that Ben Carson would drop out of the race, and told them to “inform any Carson caucus-goers of this news and urge them to caucus for Ted instead.”

The false report, echoed in an email and in a text message sent to campaign volunteers, was trumpeted by at least some Cruz precinct captains when they addressed their caucuses. When Mr. Carson’s wife, Candy Carson, arrived at two precincts to speak on his behalf, she was furious to learn that speakers for Mr. Cruz had suggested moments earlier that her husband was quitting the race.