OldLady
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I always thought that if your first call after the bullets start flying is to guys with guns….it only makes sense to have guys with guns on the campus. I wouldn’t put guns into the classrooms and in the hands of persons with multiple responsibilities who are lightly trained but having armed guards on the campus…sounds like a good idea.
What are the odds that the school you are in will be the target of a mass shooter?
Hint: Not high.
Why make the kids at a school feel afraid every moment of every day by having guys with rifles hanging around as though they are in
immediate danger.
Prevent assholes from getting guns. It is a better solution.
Huh? Most criminals get guns through the black market. There is no way to stop someone from getting a gun. Guns have been largely banned in the UK, and gun crime is on the rise.
Guns were banned in Australia, and they had a massive increase in gun crime.
If "Prevent assholes from getting guns. It is a better solution." was true.... then every country on the face of the Earth would have done it by now.
It is not a better solution, in fact it isn't a solution at all. It doesn't work. Has never worked. Will never work. And only mindless idiots, with no connection to reality, say such moronic things.
You must get your "facts" from 2AGuy. Here's a tip: Don't.
I got that from the Department of Justice, from some years back. They surveyed people in prison.
The typical murderer or rapist, didn't just wake up the day before, and start killing people. Most have long criminal records.
As a result, by the time they end up killing someone, they usually already have a long rap sheet, and thus are already banned from being a gun legally.
So naturally most all criminals get their guns on the black market.
I myself, knew exactly who to talk to in high school, if I wanted a gun. We all did. Additionally, my brother-in-law purchased his gun at a road side rest stop. How do you propose to prevent that? Another gun we own, we bought will visiting a friends house. We were just sitting there talking about wanting a revolver, and he pulled one of the drawer next the chair he was sitting in.
How do you suggest we prevent that?
You can't stop the black market ever. The whole point of a black market is that it doesn't follow the laws.
Just like banning alcohol didn't stop anything either. In a matter of months, there were smuggling rings running from coast to coast, from Canada to Mexico, and that didn't include the hundreds of moonshine distilleries that popped up across the country.
If you want to believe something else, that is your choice. But facts are not your choice. They are what they are.
It was your "facts" about gun crimes in Australia and the UK and Europe generally that I was taking exception to. Most of the guns used in mass shootings--that I can think of, anyway, were purchased legally.
I realize that many robberies and murders are committed with stolen guns. If there were less guns floating around to be stolen, there wouldn't be so many on the black market to sell, though, would there?