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You know how to solve all those problems?...never discussed, or even considered?
There must be all kinds of stories of fathers who wanted to keep their child, but the mother aborted and they could do nothing to stop it.
I am convinced the pro-abort media is censoring these stories, which must be in the millions by now.
I do have a story of a friend of mine, who was blackmailed into a very bad marriage.
She said, "Marry me, or I will abort your child."
So he married her, even though I told him the marriage would never last, even though his father told him he'd get an all-expenses paid trip through Europe if he didn't marry her.
Of course, none of us knew about the abortion threat, because he kept that a secret.
And, sure enough, the marriage was very unhappy, and as I predicted, ended in divorce.
Why doesn't the media cover a story like that?
I find the story very interesting, don't you?
Yes, that is right,and back to the topic. I think that the father's feelings should definitely be considered. I think the woman who would not consider his feelings at all is kind of a selfish jerk, TBH. Having said that though, it is really the woman who takes all the risks when it comes to a pregnancy. Although it's not really common, pregnancy can have some complications that can have permanent results on a woman's health. I would not be against limiting abortion to the first trimester though except for maybe some certain circumstances.
Prenatal genetic testing (amino centisis) isn't done until at least 15 weeks, and takes some time for results, so banning abortions after the first trimester isn't practical. Prior to 15 weeks there isn't sufficient amniotic fluid to perform the test, and there's a bigger risk of complications, including miscarriage.
Rubbers are readily available, if the daddy doesn't want to be a daddy, and fork up for being a daddy, then use one.
Pretty much what I just said. In fact if a baby is such a hardship both of them should use something. Problem solved
The difference between what you said, and it's absolutely accurate, and what rightwinger, care4all, etc. say is that you take into account both parties and they only want the man to be responsible. If a man refuses to wear a condom yet the woman still lets him do her, who is to blame? I say both. They say him.
they only want the man to be responsible
The thread premise was about paternal rights in abortion, dumbass. I say was because you cons can never stay on topic.
Are you saying the concept of parental rights doesn't involve parental responsibility?
Absolutely... ever heard a lib speak of responsibilities in any other context than your responsibilities to them?
You know how to solve all those problems?...never discussed, or even considered?
There must be all kinds of stories of fathers who wanted to keep their child, but the mother aborted and they could do nothing to stop it.
I am convinced the pro-abort media is censoring these stories, which must be in the millions by now.
I do have a story of a friend of mine, who was blackmailed into a very bad marriage.
She said, "Marry me, or I will abort your child."
So he married her, even though I told him the marriage would never last, even though his father told him he'd get an all-expenses paid trip through Europe if he didn't marry her.
Of course, none of us knew about the abortion threat, because he kept that a secret.
And, sure enough, the marriage was very unhappy, and as I predicted, ended in divorce.
Why doesn't the media cover a story like that?
I find the story very interesting, don't you?
Don't get a girl pregnant in the first place.
If you do not see her take a birth control pill every day do not trust her when she says she is on the pill.
Do you actually read threads or just dump on random posts?I did? Hmm...who knew?
Can you show me where I stated that?
So you oppose mandated taxes used to support the children that a person didn't help produce?
Mandated taxes? What are you saying?
Like I said, you're a coward too afraid to answer a simple question.
You are losing It, dude.
You are actually saying that women should be forced to bear a child and should live in poverty. Completely nuts.
How is a woman forced to bear children?
Do you actually read threads or just dump on random posts?So you oppose mandated taxes used to support the children that a person didn't help produce?
Mandated taxes? What are you saying?
Like I said, you're a coward too afraid to answer a simple question.
You are losing It, dude.
You are actually saying that women should be forced to bear a child and should live in poverty. Completely nuts.
How is a woman forced to bear children?
Feel free to open the quote boxes and read the conversation.
Providing those things are the responsibility of the mother and father. There are conservatives here who seek to deny those things from the father.Can you provide a link to a site or quote or ANY fucking thing to a Conservative saying that children have NO RIGHTS to food or clothing once they are fucking born, fucktard?It is so weird at how conservatives resist abortion, so want to force a woman to have the baby, but then say the baby has no rights once born (to food, healthcare, clothing etc). Nope, at that point its on its own with a mama who doesn't love it and a dad who has made a dash for it. Why be more concerned with embryos' rights than children living on the streets?
I am a mom of three and if anyone had forced me to go through carrying, birthing and raising those little angels I would have wiped that smile off his sodden face in a second flat.
No?
I didn't think you could.
Yet, Conservatives consistently cut funding to programs that help young children
The fucking claim was that conservatives DENY RIGHTS to food and clothing to children once they are fucking born.
Show me where the Constitution says public funding and fucking CHARITY is a RIGHT.
You can't fucking do it because it's not fucking in there.
This is a perfect example of why you fucktarded morons deserve no respect. You can't even differentiate between an act of charity and a fucking RIGHT.
I've never discounted the woman in this situation....she is as much responsible as he is....she just has the harder job of raising the kids for the next 18 to 25 years and he has the harder job of financing their livelihood...and that is not easy either, especially if he ends up having another family as well.Rubbers are readily available, if the daddy doesn't want to be a daddy, and fork up for being a daddy, then use one.Why should I fund somebody else's kid? Here's a thought, if you haven't the money to support a kid, don't get pregnant.
Why conservative objections to abortion can't be taken seriously
They oppose abortion in all cases and then complain if they are asked to pay for the upkeep of the resulting child. Give an expecting mother no other choices.....don't complain if she chooses to abort
Birth control is readily available....use it. YOU specifically
Pretty much what I just said. In fact if a baby is such a hardship both of them should use something. Problem solved
The difference between what you said, and it's absolutely accurate, and what rightwinger, care4all, etc. say is that you take into account both parties and they only want the man to be responsible. If a man refuses to wear a condom yet the woman still lets him do her, who is to blame? I say both. They say him.
Providing those things are the responsibility of the mother and father. There are conservatives here who seek to deny those things from the father.Can you provide a link to a site or quote or ANY fucking thing to a Conservative saying that children have NO RIGHTS to food or clothing once they are fucking born, fucktard?It is so weird at how conservatives resist abortion, so want to force a woman to have the baby, but then say the baby has no rights once born (to food, healthcare, clothing etc). Nope, at that point its on its own with a mama who doesn't love it and a dad who has made a dash for it. Why be more concerned with embryos' rights than children living on the streets?
I am a mom of three and if anyone had forced me to go through carrying, birthing and raising those little angels I would have wiped that smile off his sodden face in a second flat.
No?
I didn't think you could.
Yet, Conservatives consistently cut funding to programs that help young children
The fucking claim was that conservatives DENY RIGHTS to food and clothing to children once they are fucking born.
Show me where the Constitution says public funding and fucking CHARITY is a RIGHT.
You can't fucking do it because it's not fucking in there.
This is a perfect example of why you fucktarded morons deserve no respect. You can't even differentiate between an act of charity and a fucking RIGHT.
If she chooses to abort?I did? Hmm...who knew?
Can you show me where I stated that?
So you oppose mandated taxes used to support the children that a person didn't help produce?
Mandated taxes? What are you saying?
Like I said, you're a coward too afraid to answer a simple question.
You are losing It, dude.
You are actually saying that women should be forced to bear a child and should live in poverty. Completely nuts.
As it stands right now, if a woman has a child it was her choice. No one is forcing her to do a damn thing.
If she chooses to abort?So you oppose mandated taxes used to support the children that a person didn't help produce?
Mandated taxes? What are you saying?
Like I said, you're a coward too afraid to answer a simple question.
You are losing It, dude.
You are actually saying that women should be forced to bear a child and should live in poverty. Completely nuts.
As it stands right now, if a woman has a child it was her choice. No one is forcing her to do a damn thing.
You've condemned every option presented. Your misogyny is noted.
The best choice is for the man to not impregnate her and put her in that position in the first place.
It is not "horrible" to terminate or cut off a parasite, moron. You are too stupid to think at a 3rd grade level right now.Why not? You do know what parasite means right? I already know what cognitive dissonance is. I see it displayed everyday on these forums.Sorry, but you can't claim witnessing an abortion is "horrible" in one post, and literally call a fetus "a parasite" in another one....Dont get emotional. Use your brain. Its horrible to witness a abortion however until you have to carry the child you really dont have a say in the matter.If we lived in a civilized world populated by civilized people, you would have to hide yourself in shame for the rest of your life for uttering those horrible words.Very simple reason. You dont have to carry the load for 9 months and have basically a parasite eating off you.
But among liberals, who are morally corrupt and reprehensible in all ways that matter, your words will barely register at all.
You need to look up the term "cognitive dissonance".
"women should not be allowed to abort those innocent children"
in the next breath.
"send those anchor babies back to Mexico!"
LOLYet, Conservatives consistently cut funding to programs that help young children
The fucking claim wss that conservatives DENY RIGHTS to food and clothing to children once they are fucking born.
Show me where the Constitution says public funding and fucking CHARITY is a RIGHT.
You can't fucking do it because it's not fucking in there.
This is a perfect example of why you fucktarded morons deserve no respect. You can't even differentiate between an act of charity and a fucking RIGHT.
Show me where the Constitution says public funding and fucking CHARITY is a RIGHT.
Attitudes like this are a reason women feel they have little choice but to get an abortion. If you really opposed abortion like your screen persona indicates......you would support free birth control, free prenatal care, free childcare, welfare and food stamps
Those are the programs that give a woman an option other than abortion
If you supported personal responsibility, you'd support the one making the choice to have children feed their own or you'd do it yourself voluntarily.
I support if she makes the choice to have a child, she supports the child or do without.
I don't want to hear from any conservative that opposes abortion and then refuses to fund any program that gives a woman an option to keep the child
Tough shit. Since abortion is legal at this time, if a woman chooses to have a child she can't afford, it's because she chose between two options. Since she had a choice and chose one that results in needing someone else's money, her choice means she pays. If she can't, tough shit, also.
No. Not in any way. In fact, I've said the exact opposite.Rubbers are readily available, if the daddy doesn't want to be a daddy, and fork up for being a daddy, then use one.Birth control is readily available....use it. YOU specifically
Pretty much what I just said. In fact if a baby is such a hardship both of them should use something. Problem solved
The difference between what you said, and it's absolutely accurate, and what rightwinger, care4all, etc. say is that you take into account both parties and they only want the man to be responsible. If a man refuses to wear a condom yet the woman still lets him do her, who is to blame? I say both. They say him.
they only want the man to be responsible
The thread premise was about paternal rights in abortion, dumbass. I say was because you cons can never stay on topic.
Are you saying the concept of parental rights doesn't involve parental responsibility?
LOLThe fucking claim wss that conservatives DENY RIGHTS to food and clothing to children once they are fucking born.
Show me where the Constitution says public funding and fucking CHARITY is a RIGHT.
You can't fucking do it because it's not fucking in there.
This is a perfect example of why you fucktarded morons deserve no respect. You can't even differentiate between an act of charity and a fucking RIGHT.
Show me where the Constitution says public funding and fucking CHARITY is a RIGHT.
Attitudes like this are a reason women feel they have little choice but to get an abortion. If you really opposed abortion like your screen persona indicates......you would support free birth control, free prenatal care, free childcare, welfare and food stamps
Those are the programs that give a woman an option other than abortion
If you supported personal responsibility, you'd support the one making the choice to have children feed their own or you'd do it yourself voluntarily.
I support if she makes the choice to have a child, she supports the child or do without.
I don't want to hear from any conservative that opposes abortion and then refuses to fund any program that gives a woman an option to keep the child
Tough shit. Since abortion is legal at this time, if a woman chooses to have a child she can't afford, it's because she chose between two options. Since she had a choice and chose one that results in needing someone else's money, her choice means she pays. If she can't, tough shit, also.
Wrong. She can have the child and you're still gonna pay.
Do you actually read threads or just dump on random posts?Mandated taxes? What are you saying?
Like I said, you're a coward too afraid to answer a simple question.
You are losing It, dude.
You are actually saying that women should be forced to bear a child and should live in poverty. Completely nuts.
How is a woman forced to bear children?
Feel free to open the quote boxes and read the conversation.
I've read most all of them.. not one explanation as to how women are forced to have children. As well, not one explanation as to why I am obligated to support others' children.
Providing those things are the responsibility of the mother and father. There are conservatives here who seek to deny those things from the father.Can you provide a link to a site or quote or ANY fucking thing to a Conservative saying that children have NO RIGHTS to food or clothing once they are fucking born, fucktard?It is so weird at how conservatives resist abortion, so want to force a woman to have the baby, but then say the baby has no rights once born (to food, healthcare, clothing etc). Nope, at that point its on its own with a mama who doesn't love it and a dad who has made a dash for it. Why be more concerned with embryos' rights than children living on the streets?
I am a mom of three and if anyone had forced me to go through carrying, birthing and raising those little angels I would have wiped that smile off his sodden face in a second flat.
No?
I didn't think you could.
Yet, Conservatives consistently cut funding to programs that help young children
The fucking claim was that conservatives DENY RIGHTS to food and clothing to children once they are fucking born.
Show me where the Constitution says public funding and fucking CHARITY is a RIGHT.
You can't fucking do it because it's not fucking in there.
This is a perfect example of why you fucktarded morons deserve no respect. You can't even differentiate between an act of charity and a fucking RIGHT.
Fathers who don't support their children are scumbags.
If she chooses to abort?Mandated taxes? What are you saying?
Like I said, you're a coward too afraid to answer a simple question.
You are losing It, dude.
You are actually saying that women should be forced to bear a child and should live in poverty. Completely nuts.
As it stands right now, if a woman has a child it was her choice. No one is forcing her to do a damn thing.
You've condemned every option presented. Your misogyny is noted.
The best choice is for the man to not impregnate her and put her in that position in the first place.
An equally best choice is for woman to not allow herself to get impregnated if she isn't in a position to take care of a kid. Face it, the vast majority of abortions occur because of "hookups". Completely avoidable situation.
Very simple reason. You dont have to carry the load for 9 months and have basically a parasite eating off you.
if you want your child you should have sex only with a woman that wants to carry your child.
