If God doesn't exist...

[BreezeWood]

Mother Theresa? Is your point that it's very hard to think of one?

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Mother Theresa? Is your point that it's very hard to think of one?

I agree with you there are countless individuals through time who have honored religion in their lifetimes, all denominations.


I am secular first religious second, for there to be an afterlife in the Everlasting much as you claim to be an agnostic atheist.

innocence, the unjust crucifixion from an earlier time in the 4th century was changed from a religion to a political statement and used by the unjust to manipulate the public conscious for their own personal gain - and is an expense for real religion. bing.


when you prove the information of Life is organic physiology I would consider atheism, till then beyond physiology there is a dimension in the Everlasting I hope to become a part of.

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You are a humanist. Big surprise, lol.

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You are a humanist. Big surprise, lol.

and you're an XXX, no surprise at all ... what's wrong with you.


Humanism is a philosophical and ethical stance that emphasizes the value and agency of human beings, individually and collectively, and affirms their ability to improve their lives through the use of reason and ingenuity as opposed to submitting blindly to tradition and authority or sinking into cruelty and brutality.


that emphasizes the value and agency of human beings ...


the above version "the value and agency of human beings" - is straight out of the christian bible, genesis - not at all the Garden of the Almighty and where that book should first be edited ....

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Communism is naturalized humanism.

Are you a commy breezewood? Lol

.

Are you a commy breezewood? Lol

the way bing thinks whoever is would burn in hell or he has a right through his religion to hate something as benign as communism ... and hates everything that isn't christian to the extent to do it harm - a militant.

.

 

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I agree with you there are countless individuals through time who have honored religion in their lifetimes, all denominations.


I am secular first religious second, for there to be an afterlife in the Everlasting much as you claim to be an agnostic atheist.

innocence, the unjust crucifixion from an earlier time in the 4th century was changed from a religion to a political statement and used by the unjust to manipulate the public conscious for their own personal gain - and is an expense for real religion. bing.


when you prove the information of Life is organic physiology I would consider atheism, till then beyond physiology there is a dimension in the Everlasting I hope to become a part of.

.

You are a humanist. Big surprise, lol.

.

You are a humanist. Big surprise, lol.

and you're an XXX, no surprise at all ... what's wrong with you.


Humanism is a philosophical and ethical stance that emphasizes the value and agency of human beings, individually and collectively, and affirms their ability to improve their lives through the use of reason and ingenuity as opposed to submitting blindly to tradition and authority or sinking into cruelty and brutality.


that emphasizes the value and agency of human beings ...


the above version "the value and agency of human beings" - is straight out of the christian bible, genesis - not at all the Garden of the Almighty and where that book should first be edited ....

.

Communism is naturalized humanism.

Are you a commy breezewood? Lol

.

Are you a commy breezewood? Lol

the way bing thinks whoever is would burn in hell or he has a right through his religion to hate something as benign as communism ... and hates everything that isn't christian to the extent to do it harm - a militant.

.

I don't believe people will burn in hell. That is you creating a strawman argument.

History shows that communism is naturalized humanism

 

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This is self evident. Can you name any other Civilization which has done more for humanity than Western Civilization? Can you name any institution that has played a greater role in shaping Western Civilization than the Catholic Church?

The best of all the worst!???? Compared to every other uncivilized society before the Greeks invented democracy sure.

What I'm suggesting is we could have done so much better. For the hundreds of years of Western civilizations rule we've had how much war, povery and crime. Maybe if we weren't being duped our citizen wouldn't be such sheep.

All that separates us from the apes is 1%. What if we started teaching our children calculus and quantum physics and evolution and biology instead of stories from the bible. Maybe we'd be off this planet already. At least 1000 years maybe 5000 is how far back religion has held us. Scotty beam me up.

So your argument is we should have done better?

And could have. During the Aristotle days before they invented Christianity the elites of Greek society who ruled (remember only Greek men could vote) learned all the math and science that today we know but back then that knowledge was not given to the masses. Instead they pushed religion capitalism and slavery. They chose to keep the masses uninformed. It's true

I see. Could you have done better?

Absolutely. I wish I was Superman I would first pass a law that no CEO can make more than 80 times more than their lowest paid employees. If they get a raise every worker gets a raise too.

Break this rule and I fly you one mile up and drop you

So then by your logic, you are not good because you could have been better.

 

[sealybobo]

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I agree with you there are countless individuals through time who have honored religion in their lifetimes, all denominations.


I am secular first religious second, for there to be an afterlife in the Everlasting much as you claim to be an agnostic atheist.

innocence, the unjust crucifixion from an earlier time in the 4th century was changed from a religion to a political statement and used by the unjust to manipulate the public conscious for their own personal gain - and is an expense for real religion. bing.


when you prove the information of Life is organic physiology I would consider atheism, till then beyond physiology there is a dimension in the Everlasting I hope to become a part of.

.

You are a humanist. Big surprise, lol.

.

You are a humanist. Big surprise, lol.

and you're an XXX, no surprise at all ... what's wrong with you.


Humanism is a philosophical and ethical stance that emphasizes the value and agency of human beings, individually and collectively, and affirms their ability to improve their lives through the use of reason and ingenuity as opposed to submitting blindly to tradition and authority or sinking into cruelty and brutality.


that emphasizes the value and agency of human beings ...


the above version "the value and agency of human beings" - is straight out of the christian bible, genesis - not at all the Garden of the Almighty and where that book should first be edited ....

.

Communism is naturalized humanism.

Are you a commy breezewood? Lol

.

Are you a commy breezewood? Lol

the way bing thinks whoever is would burn in hell or he has a right through his religion to hate something as benign as communism ... and hates everything that isn't christian to the extent to do it harm - a militant.

.

I heard Americans equate capitalism with democracy and democracy with religion.

Capitalism is just another corruptable ism. And that does alarm me how easily people are riled up with communism and socialism. Oh evil! Meanwhile trumps giving Putin a hand job and China's killing it.

 

[sealybobo]

You are a humanist. Big surprise, lol.

.

You are a humanist. Big surprise, lol.

and you're an XXX, no surprise at all ... what's wrong with you.


Humanism is a philosophical and ethical stance that emphasizes the value and agency of human beings, individually and collectively, and affirms their ability to improve their lives through the use of reason and ingenuity as opposed to submitting blindly to tradition and authority or sinking into cruelty and brutality.


that emphasizes the value and agency of human beings ...


the above version "the value and agency of human beings" - is straight out of the christian bible, genesis - not at all the Garden of the Almighty and where that book should first be edited ....

.

Communism is naturalized humanism.

Are you a commy breezewood? Lol

.

Are you a commy breezewood? Lol

the way bing thinks whoever is would burn in hell or he has a right through his religion to hate something as benign as communism ... and hates everything that isn't christian to the extent to do it harm - a militant.

.

I don't believe people will burn in hell. That is you creating a strawman argument.

History shows that communism is naturalized humanism

Well no one wants communism so why bring it up?

 

[sealybobo]

The best of all the worst!???? Compared to every other uncivilized society before the Greeks invented democracy sure.

What I'm suggesting is we could have done so much better. For the hundreds of years of Western civilizations rule we've had how much war, povery and crime. Maybe if we weren't being duped our citizen wouldn't be such sheep.

All that separates us from the apes is 1%. What if we started teaching our children calculus and quantum physics and evolution and biology instead of stories from the bible. Maybe we'd be off this planet already. At least 1000 years maybe 5000 is how far back religion has held us. Scotty beam me up.

So your argument is we should have done better?

And could have. During the Aristotle days before they invented Christianity the elites of Greek society who ruled (remember only Greek men could vote) learned all the math and science that today we know but back then that knowledge was not given to the masses. Instead they pushed religion capitalism and slavery. They chose to keep the masses uninformed. It's true

I see. Could you have done better?

Absolutely. I wish I was Superman I would first pass a law that no CEO can make more than 80 times more than their lowest paid employees. If they get a raise every worker gets a raise too.

Break this rule and I fly you one mile up and drop you

So then by your logic, you are not good because you could have been better.

Even good men are capable of evil and even evil men love their moms and daughters and country

 

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So your argument is we should have done better?

And could have. During the Aristotle days before they invented Christianity the elites of Greek society who ruled (remember only Greek men could vote) learned all the math and science that today we know but back then that knowledge was not given to the masses. Instead they pushed religion capitalism and slavery. They chose to keep the masses uninformed. It's true

I see. Could you have done better?

Absolutely. I wish I was Superman I would first pass a law that no CEO can make more than 80 times more than their lowest paid employees. If they get a raise every worker gets a raise too.

Break this rule and I fly you one mile up and drop you

So then by your logic, you are not good because you could have been better.

Even good men are capable of evil and even evil men love their moms and daughters and country

Then by your logic, even good countries are capable of evil, right? I couldn't agree more by the way. What makes them good is the overall weight of their actions; both good and bad; not that they could have been more good.

 

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and you're an XXX, no surprise at all ... what's wrong with you.


Humanism is a philosophical and ethical stance that emphasizes the value and agency of human beings, individually and collectively, and affirms their ability to improve their lives through the use of reason and ingenuity as opposed to submitting blindly to tradition and authority or sinking into cruelty and brutality.


that emphasizes the value and agency of human beings ...


the above version "the value and agency of human beings" - is straight out of the christian bible, genesis - not at all the Garden of the Almighty and where that book should first be edited ....

.

Communism is naturalized humanism.

Are you a commy breezewood? Lol

.

Are you a commy breezewood? Lol

the way bing thinks whoever is would burn in hell or he has a right through his religion to hate something as benign as communism ... and hates everything that isn't christian to the extent to do it harm - a militant.

.

I don't believe people will burn in hell. That is you creating a strawman argument.

History shows that communism is naturalized humanism

Well no one wants communism so why bring it up?

Because it is the natural progression of humanism.

 

[sealybobo]

The best of all the worst!???? Compared to every other uncivilized society before the Greeks invented democracy sure.

What I'm suggesting is we could have done so much better. For the hundreds of years of Western civilizations rule we've had how much war, povery and crime. Maybe if we weren't being duped our citizen wouldn't be such sheep.

All that separates us from the apes is 1%. What if we started teaching our children calculus and quantum physics and evolution and biology instead of stories from the bible. Maybe we'd be off this planet already. At least 1000 years maybe 5000 is how far back religion has held us. Scotty beam me up.

So your argument is we should have done better?

And could have. During the Aristotle days before they invented Christianity the elites of Greek society who ruled (remember only Greek men could vote) learned all the math and science that today we know but back then that knowledge was not given to the masses. Instead they pushed religion capitalism and slavery. They chose to keep the masses uninformed. It's true

I see. Could you have done better?

Absolutely. I wish I was Superman I would first pass a law that no CEO can make more than 80 times more than their lowest paid employees. If they get a raise every worker gets a raise too.

Break this rule and I fly you one mile up and drop you

So then by your logic, you are not good because you could have been better.

I notice how you naturally think of communism when we talk about atheism. And you think "Western" civilization is best and of course you associate America with christians. I think subconsciously you falsely or wronly equate atheism with communism. No connection.

When I was a Christian I associated atheism with satanism. Never realized they are completely different. You couldn't call yourself an atheist if you believe in Satan.

 

[ding]

You are a humanist. Big surprise, lol.

.

You are a humanist. Big surprise, lol.

and you're an XXX, no surprise at all ... what's wrong with you.


Humanism is a philosophical and ethical stance that emphasizes the value and agency of human beings, individually and collectively, and affirms their ability to improve their lives through the use of reason and ingenuity as opposed to submitting blindly to tradition and authority or sinking into cruelty and brutality.


that emphasizes the value and agency of human beings ...


the above version "the value and agency of human beings" - is straight out of the christian bible, genesis - not at all the Garden of the Almighty and where that book should first be edited ....

.

Communism is naturalized humanism.

Are you a commy breezewood? Lol

.

Are you a commy breezewood? Lol

the way bing thinks whoever is would burn in hell or he has a right through his religion to hate something as benign as communism ... and hates everything that isn't christian to the extent to do it harm - a militant.

.

I heard Americans equate capitalism with democracy and democracy with religion.

Capitalism is just another corruptable ism. And that does alarm me how easily people are riled up with communism and socialism. Oh evil! Meanwhile trumps giving Putin a hand job and China's killing it.

You heard wrong. Failures of capitalism and socialism are failures of morality. When capitalism fails, people lose money. When socialism fails, people die.

 

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So your argument is we should have done better?

And could have. During the Aristotle days before they invented Christianity the elites of Greek society who ruled (remember only Greek men could vote) learned all the math and science that today we know but back then that knowledge was not given to the masses. Instead they pushed religion capitalism and slavery. They chose to keep the masses uninformed. It's true

I see. Could you have done better?

Absolutely. I wish I was Superman I would first pass a law that no CEO can make more than 80 times more than their lowest paid employees. If they get a raise every worker gets a raise too.

Break this rule and I fly you one mile up and drop you

So then by your logic, you are not good because you could have been better.

I notice how you naturally think of communism when we talk about atheism. And you think "Western" civilization is best and of course you associate America with christians. I think subconsciously you falsely or wronly equate atheism with communism. No connection.

When I was a Christian I associated atheism with satanism. Never realized they are completely different. You couldn't call yourself an atheist if you believe in Satan.

"...As humanism in its development was becoming more and more materialistic, it also increasingly allowed concepts to be used first by socialism and then by communism, so that Karl Marx was able to say, in 1844, that "communism is naturalized humanism."

This statement has proved to be not entirely unreasonable. One does not see the same stones in the foundations of an eroded humanism and of any type of socialism: boundless materialism; freedom from religion and religious responsibility (which under Communist regimes attains the stage of antireligious dictatorship); concentration on social structures with an allegedly scientific approach. (This last is typical of both the Age of Enlightenment and of Marxism.) It is no accident that all of communism's rhetorical vows revolve around Man (with a capital M) and his earthly happiness. At first glance it seems an ugly parallel: common traits in the thinking and way of life of today's West and today's East? But such is the logic of materialistic development..." Alexander Solzhenitsyn - Harvard Address

 

[sealybobo]

Communism is naturalized humanism.

Are you a commy breezewood? Lol

.

Are you a commy breezewood? Lol

the way bing thinks whoever is would burn in hell or he has a right through his religion to hate something as benign as communism ... and hates everything that isn't christian to the extent to do it harm - a militant.

.

I don't believe people will burn in hell. That is you creating a strawman argument.

History shows that communism is naturalized humanism

Well no one wants communism so why bring it up?

Because it is the natural progression of humanism.

I don't get that. Why? And if that's true then there lies the flaw with humanism. Or maybe communism like every other ism while not perfect makes some good points but isn't the end all be all because if it were Wed all be humanists.

And explain why you think one goes with the other

 

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Are you a commy breezewood? Lol

.

Are you a commy breezewood? Lol

the way bing thinks whoever is would burn in hell or he has a right through his religion to hate something as benign as communism ... and hates everything that isn't christian to the extent to do it harm - a militant.

.

I don't believe people will burn in hell. That is you creating a strawman argument.

History shows that communism is naturalized humanism

Well no one wants communism so why bring it up?

Because it is the natural progression of humanism.

I don't get that. Why? And if that's true then there lies the flaw with humanism. Or maybe communism like every other ism while not perfect makes some good points but isn't the end all be all because if it were Wed all be humanists.

And explain why you think one goes with the other

See post #2951 and...

"...The interrelationship is such, moreover, that the current of materialism which is farthest to the left, and is hence the most consistent, always proves to be stronger, more attractive, and victorious. Humanism which has lost its Christian heritage cannot prevail in this competition. Thus during the past centuries and especially in recent decades, as the process became more acute, the alignment of forces was as follows: Liberalism was inevitably pushed aside by radicalism, radicalism had to surrender to socialism, and socialism could not stand up to communism..." Alexander Solzhenitsyn - Harvard Address

 

[sealybobo]

And could have. During the Aristotle days before they invented Christianity the elites of Greek society who ruled (remember only Greek men could vote) learned all the math and science that today we know but back then that knowledge was not given to the masses. Instead they pushed religion capitalism and slavery. They chose to keep the masses uninformed. It's true

I see. Could you have done better?

Absolutely. I wish I was Superman I would first pass a law that no CEO can make more than 80 times more than their lowest paid employees. If they get a raise every worker gets a raise too.

Break this rule and I fly you one mile up and drop you

So then by your logic, you are not good because you could have been better.

I notice how you naturally think of communism when we talk about atheism. And you think "Western" civilization is best and of course you associate America with christians. I think subconsciously you falsely or wronly equate atheism with communism. No connection.

When I was a Christian I associated atheism with satanism. Never realized they are completely different. You couldn't call yourself an atheist if you believe in Satan.

"...As humanism in its development was becoming more and more materialistic, it also increasingly allowed concepts to be used first by socialism and then by communism, so that Karl Marx was able to say, in 1844, that "communism is naturalized humanism."

This statement has proved to be not entirely unreasonable. One does not see the same stones in the foundations of an eroded humanism and of any type of socialism: boundless materialism; freedom from religion and religious responsibility (which under Communist regimes attains the stage of antireligious dictatorship); concentration on social structures with an allegedly scientific approach. (This last is typical of both the Age of Enlightenment and of Marxism.) It is no accident that all of communism's rhetorical vows revolve around Man (with a capital M) and his earthly happiness. At first glance it seems an ugly parallel: common traits in the thinking and way of life of today's West and today's East? But such is the logic of materialistic development..." Alexander Solzhenitsyn - Harvard Address

We are still such a young new species just now learning our place in the universe. And sadly not that much different than people 20,000 years ago. What did they want? To be free, happy, well fed, valued, loved, appreciated and respected. What happens after you die doesn't matter to me and what you believe shouldn't affect me

 

[ding]

I see. Could you have done better?

Absolutely. I wish I was Superman I would first pass a law that no CEO can make more than 80 times more than their lowest paid employees. If they get a raise every worker gets a raise too.

Break this rule and I fly you one mile up and drop you

So then by your logic, you are not good because you could have been better.

I notice how you naturally think of communism when we talk about atheism. And you think "Western" civilization is best and of course you associate America with christians. I think subconsciously you falsely or wronly equate atheism with communism. No connection.

When I was a Christian I associated atheism with satanism. Never realized they are completely different. You couldn't call yourself an atheist if you believe in Satan.

"...As humanism in its development was becoming more and more materialistic, it also increasingly allowed concepts to be used first by socialism and then by communism, so that Karl Marx was able to say, in 1844, that "communism is naturalized humanism."

This statement has proved to be not entirely unreasonable. One does not see the same stones in the foundations of an eroded humanism and of any type of socialism: boundless materialism; freedom from religion and religious responsibility (which under Communist regimes attains the stage of antireligious dictatorship); concentration on social structures with an allegedly scientific approach. (This last is typical of both the Age of Enlightenment and of Marxism.) It is no accident that all of communism's rhetorical vows revolve around Man (with a capital M) and his earthly happiness. At first glance it seems an ugly parallel: common traits in the thinking and way of life of today's West and today's East? But such is the logic of materialistic development..." Alexander Solzhenitsyn - Harvard Address

We are still such a young new species just now learning our place in the universe. And sadly not that much different than people 20,000 years ago. What did they want? To be free, happy, well fed, valued, loved, appreciated and respected. What happens after you die doesn't matter to me and what you believe shouldn't affect me

It shouldn't, but your actions say it does.

Those are good goals. Do you believe that Hitler appreciated Himler? Better goals would be to do the right thing, the right way for the right reasons and when you fail, to not rationalize your failure but to be accountable and learn from them. That's Christianity in a nutshell.

 

[BreezeWood]

Absolutely. I wish I was Superman I would first pass a law that no CEO can make more than 80 times more than their lowest paid employees. If they get a raise every worker gets a raise too.

Break this rule and I fly you one mile up and drop you

So then by your logic, you are not good because you could have been better.

I notice how you naturally think of communism when we talk about atheism. And you think "Western" civilization is best and of course you associate America with christians. I think subconsciously you falsely or wronly equate atheism with communism. No connection.

When I was a Christian I associated atheism with satanism. Never realized they are completely different. You couldn't call yourself an atheist if you believe in Satan.

"...As humanism in its development was becoming more and more materialistic, it also increasingly allowed concepts to be used first by socialism and then by communism, so that Karl Marx was able to say, in 1844, that "communism is naturalized humanism."

This statement has proved to be not entirely unreasonable. One does not see the same stones in the foundations of an eroded humanism and of any type of socialism: boundless materialism; freedom from religion and religious responsibility (which under Communist regimes attains the stage of antireligious dictatorship); concentration on social structures with an allegedly scientific approach. (This last is typical of both the Age of Enlightenment and of Marxism.) It is no accident that all of communism's rhetorical vows revolve around Man (with a capital M) and his earthly happiness. At first glance it seems an ugly parallel: common traits in the thinking and way of life of today's West and today's East? But such is the logic of materialistic development..." Alexander Solzhenitsyn - Harvard Address

We are still such a young new species just now learning our place in the universe. And sadly not that much different than people 20,000 years ago. What did they want? To be free, happy, well fed, valued, loved, appreciated and respected. What happens after you die doesn't matter to me and what you believe shouldn't affect me

It shouldn't, but your actions say it does.

Those are good goals. Do you believe that Hitler appreciated Himler? Better goals would be to do the right thing, the right way for the right reasons and when you fail, to not rationalize your failure but to be accountable and learn from them. That's Christianity in a nutshell.

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That's Christianity in a nutshell.

that is not christianity ....


"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me".


after the 4th century the above is christianity.

What makes them good is the overall weight of their actions; both good and bad; not that they could have been more good.

according to 4th century christianity the above has no bearing whatsoever.


the religion of the Almighty, The Triumph of Good vs Evil is the determining factor for the fate of humanity and is exclusive of any other conditions than the specific religion itself, Noah's parable. in the end there will be a Triumph of one or the other, that alone will receive the Final Judgement.

.

 

[ding]

So then by your logic, you are not good because you could have been better.

I notice how you naturally think of communism when we talk about atheism. And you think "Western" civilization is best and of course you associate America with christians. I think subconsciously you falsely or wronly equate atheism with communism. No connection.

When I was a Christian I associated atheism with satanism. Never realized they are completely different. You couldn't call yourself an atheist if you believe in Satan.

"...As humanism in its development was becoming more and more materialistic, it also increasingly allowed concepts to be used first by socialism and then by communism, so that Karl Marx was able to say, in 1844, that "communism is naturalized humanism."

This statement has proved to be not entirely unreasonable. One does not see the same stones in the foundations of an eroded humanism and of any type of socialism: boundless materialism; freedom from religion and religious responsibility (which under Communist regimes attains the stage of antireligious dictatorship); concentration on social structures with an allegedly scientific approach. (This last is typical of both the Age of Enlightenment and of Marxism.) It is no accident that all of communism's rhetorical vows revolve around Man (with a capital M) and his earthly happiness. At first glance it seems an ugly parallel: common traits in the thinking and way of life of today's West and today's East? But such is the logic of materialistic development..." Alexander Solzhenitsyn - Harvard Address

We are still such a young new species just now learning our place in the universe. And sadly not that much different than people 20,000 years ago. What did they want? To be free, happy, well fed, valued, loved, appreciated and respected. What happens after you die doesn't matter to me and what you believe shouldn't affect me

It shouldn't, but your actions say it does.

Those are good goals. Do you believe that Hitler appreciated Himler? Better goals would be to do the right thing, the right way for the right reasons and when you fail, to not rationalize your failure but to be accountable and learn from them. That's Christianity in a nutshell.

.

That's Christianity in a nutshell.

that is not christianity ....


"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me".


after the 4th century the above is christianity.

What makes them good is the overall weight of their actions; both good and bad; not that they could have been more good.

according to 4th century christianity the above has no bearing whatsoever.


the religion of the Almighty, The Triumph of Good vs Evil is the determining factor for the fate of humanity and is exclusive of any other conditions than the specific religion itself, Noah's parable. in the end there will be a Triumph of one or the other, that alone will receive the Final Judgement.

.

Then you best get busy.

 

[BreezeWood]

I notice how you naturally think of communism when we talk about atheism. And you think "Western" civilization is best and of course you associate America with christians. I think subconsciously you falsely or wronly equate atheism with communism. No connection.

When I was a Christian I associated atheism with satanism. Never realized they are completely different. You couldn't call yourself an atheist if you believe in Satan.

"...As humanism in its development was becoming more and more materialistic, it also increasingly allowed concepts to be used first by socialism and then by communism, so that Karl Marx was able to say, in 1844, that "communism is naturalized humanism."

This statement has proved to be not entirely unreasonable. One does not see the same stones in the foundations of an eroded humanism and of any type of socialism: boundless materialism; freedom from religion and religious responsibility (which under Communist regimes attains the stage of antireligious dictatorship); concentration on social structures with an allegedly scientific approach. (This last is typical of both the Age of Enlightenment and of Marxism.) It is no accident that all of communism's rhetorical vows revolve around Man (with a capital M) and his earthly happiness. At first glance it seems an ugly parallel: common traits in the thinking and way of life of today's West and today's East? But such is the logic of materialistic development..." Alexander Solzhenitsyn - Harvard Address

We are still such a young new species just now learning our place in the universe. And sadly not that much different than people 20,000 years ago. What did they want? To be free, happy, well fed, valued, loved, appreciated and respected. What happens after you die doesn't matter to me and what you believe shouldn't affect me

It shouldn't, but your actions say it does.

Those are good goals. Do you believe that Hitler appreciated Himler? Better goals would be to do the right thing, the right way for the right reasons and when you fail, to not rationalize your failure but to be accountable and learn from them. That's Christianity in a nutshell.

.

That's Christianity in a nutshell.

that is not christianity ....


"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me".


after the 4th century the above is christianity.

What makes them good is the overall weight of their actions; both good and bad; not that they could have been more good.

according to 4th century christianity the above has no bearing whatsoever.


the religion of the Almighty, The Triumph of Good vs Evil is the determining factor for the fate of humanity and is exclusive of any other conditions than the specific religion itself, Noah's parable. in the end there will be a Triumph of one or the other, that alone will receive the Final Judgement.

.

Then you best get busy.

.

Then you best get busy.

busy at what, militant.

.

 

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"...As humanism in its development was becoming more and more materialistic, it also increasingly allowed concepts to be used first by socialism and then by communism, so that Karl Marx was able to say, in 1844, that "communism is naturalized humanism."

This statement has proved to be not entirely unreasonable. One does not see the same stones in the foundations of an eroded humanism and of any type of socialism: boundless materialism; freedom from religion and religious responsibility (which under Communist regimes attains the stage of antireligious dictatorship); concentration on social structures with an allegedly scientific approach. (This last is typical of both the Age of Enlightenment and of Marxism.) It is no accident that all of communism's rhetorical vows revolve around Man (with a capital M) and his earthly happiness. At first glance it seems an ugly parallel: common traits in the thinking and way of life of today's West and today's East? But such is the logic of materialistic development..." Alexander Solzhenitsyn - Harvard Address

We are still such a young new species just now learning our place in the universe. And sadly not that much different than people 20,000 years ago. What did they want? To be free, happy, well fed, valued, loved, appreciated and respected. What happens after you die doesn't matter to me and what you believe shouldn't affect me

It shouldn't, but your actions say it does.

Those are good goals. Do you believe that Hitler appreciated Himler? Better goals would be to do the right thing, the right way for the right reasons and when you fail, to not rationalize your failure but to be accountable and learn from them. That's Christianity in a nutshell.

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That's Christianity in a nutshell.

that is not christianity ....


"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me".


after the 4th century the above is christianity.

What makes them good is the overall weight of their actions; both good and bad; not that they could have been more good.

according to 4th century christianity the above has no bearing whatsoever.


the religion of the Almighty, The Triumph of Good vs Evil is the determining factor for the fate of humanity and is exclusive of any other conditions than the specific religion itself, Noah's parable. in the end there will be a Triumph of one or the other, that alone will receive the Final Judgement.

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Then you best get busy.

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Then you best get busy.

busy at what, militant.

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Winning converts.

 

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We are still such a young new species just now learning our place in the universe. And sadly not that much different than people 20,000 years ago. What did they want? To be free, happy, well fed, valued, loved, appreciated and respected. What happens after you die doesn't matter to me and what you believe shouldn't affect me

It shouldn't, but your actions say it does.

Those are good goals. Do you believe that Hitler appreciated Himler? Better goals would be to do the right thing, the right way for the right reasons and when you fail, to not rationalize your failure but to be accountable and learn from them. That's Christianity in a nutshell.

.

That's Christianity in a nutshell.

that is not christianity ....


"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me".


after the 4th century the above is christianity.

What makes them good is the overall weight of their actions; both good and bad; not that they could have been more good.

according to 4th century christianity the above has no bearing whatsoever.


the religion of the Almighty, The Triumph of Good vs Evil is the determining factor for the fate of humanity and is exclusive of any other conditions than the specific religion itself, Noah's parable. in the end there will be a Triumph of one or the other, that alone will receive the Final Judgement.

.

Then you best get busy.

.

Then you best get busy.

busy at what, militant.

.

Winning converts.

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the spoken religion of Antiquity will always exist for as long as there is an Everlasting.

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