If Trump was in office do you think Putin would even threaten much less invade Ukraine?

Nonsense. You don't attack when the enemy is strong, you attack when the enemy is weak. Putin clearly sees the US as weaker under Quid Pro.
So you actually think that Trump would even have an unkind word for Putin? Shit, he'd open the door to Ukraine for ten bucks. You haven't noticed the collusion and the love affair between The Chosen One and The Genius, Savvy One? You're as delusional as Trump is.
 
Good point. The Cry Baby Loser withholding vital military aid from vulnerable Ukraine to pressure its president to contrive fake criminal charges against the Cry Baby Loser's political opponent certainly didn't help. Nor did his continually crapping on NATO.
Quid Pro's had a year to "fix" any problems with his money launderer. Did he do anything? This current mess is his to handle. Is he going to do anything?
 
So you actually think that Trump would even have an unkind word for Putin? Shit, he'd open the door to Ukraine for ten bucks. You haven't noticed the collusion and the love affair between The Chosen One and The Genius, Savvy One? You're as delusional as Trump is.
The facts remain facts. TRUMP! was the first president in a long time who started no new military hostilities and Putin made no aggressive moves while he was in office. When Quid Pro took office, Putin moved. You don't attack when Big Brother is strong, you attack when he is weak.

It's amazing to watch the depths to which Quid Pro's sycophants will drop to divert attention from the reality that this mess is his to handle and TRUMP! doesn't have anything to do with it.
 
You call what this country has gone through under Trump peaceful? You haven't been paying attention.
He started no new military hostilities, something neither Bubba Clinton nor Obama can say. Heck, TRUMP! deserved the Nobel Peace Prize a whole lot more than Obama did, who got it for no good reason at all.
 
He started no new military hostilities, something neither Bubba Clinton nor Obama can say. Heck, TRUMP! deserved the Nobel Peace Prize a whole lot more than Obama did, who got it for no good reason at all.
Hard to call this a success. You guys confuse peace with freedom.

 
Hard to call this a success. You guys confuse peace with freedom.

You cannot deny that TRUMP! started no new military hostilities, the first president in a long time to be able to claim that. You also cannot deny that the current mess with Putin is Quid Pro's to handle, nothing TRUMP! says, does, said or did has any impact on that.
 
Putin wanted a weak NATO. That’s why he valued Trump.

Trump was not a fan of NATO either.
So he waited until a "stronger" president had been in office for a year to attack? Doesn't make sense.
 
You cannot deny that TRUMP! started no new military hostilities, the first president in a long time to be able to claim that. You also cannot deny that the current mess with Putin is Quid Pro's to handle, nothing TRUMP! says, does, said or did has any impact on that.
Trump sat and watched as the world retreated from the ideals we hold dear.

Am I supposed to praise him for doing so?

In the end, he was weak and ineffectual.
 
So he waited until a "stronger" president had been in office for a year to attack? Doesn't make sense.
It does. If NATO wasn’t strong, he wouldn’t worry about it extending to Ukraine and he wouldn’t have a reason to invade it.
 
No.......our energy independence and Trump pressuring Germany to cancel the russian pipeline would have crippled his ability to make moves against Ukraine and other countries....
Wtf? That made zero sense. Germany was going full steam with Nordstream II…until Putin blew all that up with his invasion.

CLEARLY for Putin severe damage to Russian economy is not deterrent enough to not invade Ukraine, so suggestion that Trump could have prevented the attack without American military in Kiev is nothing but a fantasy.
 
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Trump sat and watched as the world retreated from the ideals we hold dear.

Am I supposed to praise him for doing so?

In the end, he was weak and ineffectual.
You still can't deny the facts on the table. This mess is Quid Pro's to handle. The history books (at least the ones not written in crayon) will talk about him, not TRUMP!. What they will say about TRUMP! is that he was the first president in a long time who didn't initiate any new military hostilities.
 
You still can't deny the facts on the table. This mess is Quid Pro's to handle. The history books (at least the ones not written in crayon) will talk about him, not TRUMP!. What they will say about TRUMP! is that he was the first president in a long time who didn't initiate any new military hostilities.
Not denying anything.

The history books will not be kind to Trump. He accomplished next to nothing as he attempted to abdicate US global leadership.
 
Quid Pro's had a year to "fix" any problems with his money launderer. Did he do anything? This current mess is his to handle. Is he going to do anything?
Trump's attacks on NATO, his illegally withholding vital military aid from Ukraine, and his recently praising Putin have not been helpful.

What do you recommend the President now do other than coordinate the current allied response?
 
Trump's attacks on NATO, his illegally withholding vital military aid from Ukraine, and his recently praising Putin have not been helpful.
Only a very weak president would be sidelined by comments from the peanut gallery and seeing Quid Pro's sycophants rushing to the ramparts condemning TRUMP! instead of even talking about what Quid Pro should do demonstrates a very weak faith in him.
What do you recommend the President now do other than coordinate the current allied response?
That's his primary task. I'm not a member of the joint chiefs of staff, so my opinion about the geopolitical strategy necessary to contain Putin really doesn't matter, but I will say that projecting to the world that gender pronouns and vaccinations are more important than military readiness is not a good way to show strength.
 
Oh, he's in favor. That and $5 can get you a coffee at Starbucks.
You realize that we are the most important member of NATO, right?

Did Trump show strength when he pulled troops out of Germany?
 
You realize that we are the most important member of NATO, right?

Did Trump show strength when he pulled troops out of Germany?
That has nothing whatsoever to do with what's on Quid Pro's plate right now. He has enormous responsibility, and the consequences of his decisions will affect people world-wide for years to come, yet all I see are partisan idiots yammering about what TRUMP! may or may not have said either in the past, in a tweet, or now that he's no longer in a position of power. Says something about the priorities of the average partisan idiot. Plainly they don't want to talk about what Quid Pro is likely to do or not do.
 

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