If Trump were innocent , he would be an open book for Mueller

[Crixus]

If Trump's ties to Russia are a "nothing burger" like he says

Why doesn't he just explain to the American people what all those meetings with Russia were about?

Why? Muller is the only one who matters, and that’s just for now as any criminal case he brings will get tossed due to incompetence just like he Anthrax case was pooched by Comey and Muller.

 

[Avatar4321]

And btw the op is wrong. If his premise was true we wouldn’t have the fifth amendment.

We have a right to remain silent specifically because Goverment abuses its power and goes after innocent men and then charges them with crimes if they get tongue twisted or will distort what they say to manufacture some outrage.

You should appreciate that right more often

 

[dannyboys]

'The fruit from the poisonous tree'.
I can't wait to read the charges against the 'Coffee Boy Wanna Be Dofuss' and Flynn Mueller is going to present before a judge.
"These are charges our team member Struck helped concoct. You remember Storz don't you judge? He's the one who I had to kick off our Trump Witch Hunt. That's right judge. The same Struck that I never told congress about firing for four months until the day before the WAPO was going to spill the beans on his firing. But be assured judge whatever Struck got up to didn't have any bearing on what he claims. HELLO???? HELLO JUDGE????? ARE YOU STILL THERE JUDGE??????"
The illegal case against Flynn will never get to ANY court.
The Coffee Boy will rot in a federal prison for a couple of years. When he is released he'll be wearing a pink mini-skirt and 'fuck-me' pumps.
Manafort and his business partner are going to have their charges thrown out b/c the Mueller team committed numerous crimes obtaining the 'evidence'.
Mueller is going to interview President Trump and then close down the Witch Hunt and exonerate President Trump and the LIB MSM are NEVER going to accept Mueller's report.
Chrissy Matthews will spend the next decade claiming that somehow President Trump "got to" Mueller and paid him off or blackmailed him.
And the DEMs will sit back and watch the 'Blue Wave' turn into a fucking trickle.

 

[toomuchtime_]

No, he doesn't. His authorization states he may pursue investigations into crimes he uncovers in pursuit of evidence of collusion

And..... laundering Russian money fits that nicely. Ask Manafort. Hell, Mueller turned 3 guys into criminals just by fucking asking them questions about Russia. But naaaaah... nothing to see here, heh heh heh

Nothing at all to suggest collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government or to suggest money laundering by the Trump Organization. Do you have to keep telling yourself this nonsense because you have no idea why you oppose Trump?

In American problems of politics of election fixing suspicions, wouldn't put it past the master plan to have Russia pay for a border wall thru Trump associations so all that are in are fair game for the master race laundering when the time comes for Christian Nation lynching enforcement to complete their master race economic purge in survival of the fittest fascists as the USSR decades ago......

Huh?

 

[saltydancin]

We both know there is nothing suspicious about rich Russian investing Trump organization projects.

No, sorry, we "both" don't. And you haven't read up on any of it anyway, so you shouldn't even have an opinion, yet. Now we see who has the bias...

wee don't read fiction novels. so post some facts with actual examples or as usual, you're fake.

Then there's that immaculate conception basis of Christian Nation American politics, where it doesn't matter if the KKK "man is God" churchstate pulls off 9/11 for a patriot act of an Islamidiotocracy republic as if it ain't in the budget it's fiction or fake news like the fabricated misnomer of Christ & Islam flying carpets; which would never be an open book making Arab terrorists which threatened POTUS & to nuke Temple Mount this millennium's second coming for the Fourth Reich where Russia gets it's game back.

 

[toomuchtime_]

We both know there is nothing suspicious about rich Russian investing Trump organization projects.

No, sorry, we "both" don't. And you haven't read up on any of it anyway, so you shouldn't even have an opinion, yet. Now we see who has the bias...

Still more bullshit, there is nothing to read up on.

 

[saltydancin]

No, he doesn't. His authorization states he may pursue investigations into crimes he uncovers in pursuit of evidence of collusion

And..... laundering Russian money fits that nicely. Ask Manafort. Hell, Mueller turned 3 guys into criminals just by fucking asking them questions about Russia. But naaaaah... nothing to see here, heh heh heh

Nothing at all to suggest collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government or to suggest money laundering by the Trump Organization. Do you have to keep telling yourself this nonsense because you have no idea why you oppose Trump?

In American problems of politics of election fixing suspicions, wouldn't put it past the master plan to have Russia pay for a border wall thru Trump associations so all that are in are fair game for the master race laundering when the time comes for Christian Nation lynching enforcement to complete their master race economic purge in survival of the fittest fascists as the USSR decades ago......

Huh?

Miss the Cold War & McCarthyism & the Russian oligarchy death camps history of the past 65 years ?

 

[FA_Q2]

Not sure why you would think such a thing.

If you are guilty the last thing you want to do is work with the person who's ONLY job is to find evidence to convict you of a crime. Conversely, if you are innocent, the last thing you want to do is work with the person who's ONLY job is to find evidence to convict you of a crime. Muller's job is the same either way and your best legal action remains the same as well.

One of the common misconceptions here is that Muller is actually supposed to get to the truth of the matter when that really is not what he is there to do. He is there to kind as much evidence as possible on any guilty parties within Trump's campaign. It is up to the judges, juries and in Trumps case the legislator to determine actual guilt or innocence.

 

[saltydancin]

Not sure why you would think such a thing.

If you are guilty the last thing you want to do is work with the person who's ONLY job is to find evidence to convict you of a crime. Conversely, if you are innocent, the last thing you want to do is work with the person who's ONLY job is to find evidence to convict you of a crime. Muller's job is the same either way and your best legal action remains the same as well.

One of the common misconceptions here is that Muller is actually supposed to get to the truth of the matter when that really is not what he is there to do. He is there to kind as much evidence as possible on any guilty parties within Trump's campaign. It is up to the judges, juries and in Trumps case the legislator to determine actual guilt or innocence.

Seems Detective Columbo has just one more question, which makes it about as entertaining as a scripted TV sitcom for evidence.

 

[toomuchtime_]

No, he doesn't. His authorization states he may pursue investigations into crimes he uncovers in pursuit of evidence of collusion

And..... laundering Russian money fits that nicely. Ask Manafort. Hell, Mueller turned 3 guys into criminals just by fucking asking them questions about Russia. But naaaaah... nothing to see here, heh heh heh

Nothing at all to suggest collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government or to suggest money laundering by the Trump Organization. Do you have to keep telling yourself this nonsense because you have no idea why you oppose Trump?

In American problems of politics of election fixing suspicions, wouldn't put it past the master plan to have Russia pay for a border wall thru Trump associations so all that are in are fair game for the master race laundering when the time comes for Christian Nation lynching enforcement to complete their master race economic purge in survival of the fittest fascists as the USSR decades ago......

Huh?

Miss the Cold War & McCarthyism & the Russian oligarchy death camps history of the past 65 years ?

Huh?

 

[saltydancin]

Huh?[/QUOTE] Columbo, seems the PA & FBI operates as this Christian Nation where the second coming for this Christian millennium was Arab terrorists which threatened POTUS & to nuke Temple Mount whom, in all probability were the 9/11 hijackers; which led to patriot act force feeding Islam.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

He has done nothing but try to derail the investigation from the beginning.. You have to be stupid not to see that he is trying anyway he can to trip up Mueller and the investigation. Now Trump has his loyal rats in congress trying to discredit the investigation..

Red Flag Folks..

WASHINGTON — Most Americans ( except for some dummies on the USMB Forum ) think Donald Trump did something illegal or at least unethical regarding ties between his presidential campaign and Russia — and they think he’s trying to obstruct the investigation looking into those possible connections.

Most Americans believe Trump trying to obstruct Russia probe, poll finds




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Naive

 

[Eaglewings]

He has done nothing but try to derail the investigation from the beginning.. You have to be stupid not to see that he is trying anyway he can to trip up Mueller and the investigation. Now Trump has his loyal rats in congress trying to discredit the investigation..

Red Flag Folks..

WASHINGTON — Most Americans ( except for some dummies on the USMB Forum ) think Donald Trump did something illegal or at least unethical regarding ties between his presidential campaign and Russia — and they think he’s trying to obstruct the investigation looking into those possible connections.

Most Americans believe Trump trying to obstruct Russia probe, poll finds




.

Naive

Why is this naive? Trump Jr. already admitted that he had meetings with the Russians. Trump Jr., Kushner, and Manafort were in those meetings ..

Some still do not believe that Russia sent out millions of Fake News Bots into our social media and into our forums ( which is a fact and admitted my the GOP.

Did Trump not try to stop Comey ? ( Trump admits that he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation )

How many of Trumps team were involved with money laundering or were busted lying to Muellers team?

Who is naive Gramps, you are..


.

 

[Eaglewings]

If Trump's ties to Russia are a "nothing burger" like he says

Why doesn't he just explain to the American people what all those meetings with Russia were about?

Why? Muller is the only one who matters, and that’s just for now as any criminal case he brings will get tossed due to incompetence just like he Anthrax case was pooched by Comey and Muller.

Er.. hello.. Trump made sure to tell the Americans of his innocence... well then prove your innocence..All he has done is Twitter distractions to his comatose followers.

.

 

[rightwinger]

Mueller is working at getting Trump to testify under oath

The question is.........Can our President testify without lying?

Most people understand that while testifying you don't incriminate yourself and clam up when the questioning gets tough

Trump's first impulse is to lie and then lie some more when his first lie is questioned
Can Trump avoid perjury?

Did you hear that Trump wants the questions sent to him...? What a joke.

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Nothing really wrong with that

The key is ....will he provide honest answers or lawyer up?

 

[rightwinger]

If Trump is innocent.......Mueller will let us know

 

[Eaglewings]

Not sure why you would think such a thing.

If you are guilty the last thing you want to do is work with the person who's ONLY job is to find evidence to convict you of a crime. Conversely, if you are innocent, the last thing you want to do is work with the person who's ONLY job is to find evidence to convict you of a crime. Muller's job is the same either way and your best legal action remains the same as well.

One of the common misconceptions here is that Muller is actually supposed to get to the truth of the matter when that really is not what he is there to do. He is there to kind as much evidence as possible on any guilty parties within Trump's campaign. It is up to the judges, juries and in Trumps case the legislator to determine actual guilt or innocence.

Yeah right.. If you are guilty then you have a problem....Why did every single man Meuller interviewed lie to the board.

Sessions:

I had no contact ( Early last year)

ok, I had contact but we didn't talk about the campaign.. ( July )

Intercepts suggest Sessions discussed Trump campaign matters with Russia envoy: report
Intercepts suggest Sessions discussed Trump campaign matters with Russia envoy: report

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[Eaglewings]

Mueller is working at getting Trump to testify under oath

The question is.........Can our President testify without lying?

Most people understand that while testifying you don't incriminate yourself and clam up when the questioning gets tough

Trump's first impulse is to lie and then lie some more when his first lie is questioned
Can Trump avoid perjury?

Did you hear that Trump wants the questions sent to him...? What a joke.

.

Nothing really wrong with that

The key is ....will he provide honest answers or lawyer up?

He wants the questions sent to him so he can practice the lies that his lawyers dream up

.

 

[rightwinger]

Mueller is working at getting Trump to testify under oath

The question is.........Can our President testify without lying?

Most people understand that while testifying you don't incriminate yourself and clam up when the questioning gets tough

Trump's first impulse is to lie and then lie some more when his first lie is questioned
Can Trump avoid perjury?

Did you hear that Trump wants the questions sent to him...? What a joke.

.

Nothing really wrong with that

The key is ....will he provide honest answers or lawyer up?

He wants the questions sent to him so he can practice the lies that his lawyers dream up

.

That is common for Presidential inquiries.

This isn't Perry Madon where they are looking for a confession on the stand. Let Trump provide his answers and check them against known facts in the case

I suspect Trumps memory will fail him at key moments

 

[Care4all]

Not sure why you would think such a thing.

If you are guilty the last thing you want to do is work with the person who's ONLY job is to find evidence to convict you of a crime. Conversely, if you are innocent, the last thing you want to do is work with the person who's ONLY job is to find evidence to convict you of a crime. Muller's job is the same either way and your best legal action remains the same as well.

One of the common misconceptions here is that Muller is actually supposed to get to the truth of the matter when that really is not what he is there to do. He is there to kind as much evidence as possible on any guilty parties within Trump's campaign. It is up to the judges, juries and in Trumps case the legislator to determine actual guilt or innocence.

That is not a misconception, their only job is to find the truth....they look and gather both the evidence of innocence and the evidence of guilt....That is their sworn duty....