If Ukraine falls, what happens next?

[Wyatt earp]

Russia is very far from Germany, even East Germany.
Almost 1000 miles.

 

[Rigby5]

I think that agreement stated that Russia wouldn't invade Ukraine...

Also the agreement never said Ukraine wouldn't join NATO..

Ukraine is looking for protection, they had a Russian puppet leader until 2005, they got rid of him and Putin didn't like that..

The agreement specifically prohibited the Ukraine from joining ANY alliance threatening Russia.
The Ukraine had Russian puppet leaders until 2014.
But Russia was ok with the coup until the Ukraine tried to get NATO nukes.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Russia is very far from Germany, even East Germany.
Almost 1000 miles.

Kalingrad, Kalingrad, Kalingrad is a part of Russia..... Go look for it, it's a neighbor of Poland, German's neighbor and used to be a part of Germany.

 

[Stormy Daniels]

in English, no.

using the Cryllic (?) alphabet?

(you do know we prefer posters NOT post in foreign languages, right?)

Does this mean people can't post "molon labe" anymore?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Wrong.
The Ukraine was very vocal about wanting nukes, and even now wants the west to provide a no-fly-zone, which would be equivalent of a declaration of war with Russia.

So vocal you couldn't be bothered to post it.

The Ukraine did say if it wasn't to be in NATO, it needed nukes. And you can see why. Not very vocal though. Unless you read the Russian media.

 

[Wyatt earp]

A no-fly-zone is illegal, impossible to do, would be a declaration of war, and would result in the destruction of the US air force, is not the whole US.

To do a US no-fly-zone, US planes would be stretch out way beyond any means of protection, easily shot down, and totally destroyed.
It would be a perfect trap.

The Russians are a paper tiger the US destroyed Iraq in days .

Russia is no match for the USA if Patton didn't get assassinated by Lenin in WW11 much less today .

 

[Wyatt earp]

The agreement specifically prohibited the Ukraine from joining ANY alliance threatening Russia.
The Ukraine had Russian puppet leaders until 2014.
But Russia was ok with the coup until the Ukraine tried to get NATO nukes.

Tell us more

 

[Rigby5]

Oh come off it.

Yushchenko was leader of "Our Ukraine" party which was pro-EU.

Viktor Yushchenko - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Yushchenko had slightly modernized his political platform, adding social partnership and other liberal slogans to older ideas of European integration, including Ukraine's joining NATO and fighting corruption."

Yanukovych, on the other hand, his opponent, rejected and agreement between the EU and the Ukraine, currently resides in RUSSIA, and there are claims he could be the next leader of Russian puppet Ukraine.

Who is Viktor Yanukovych & why is Russia eager to replace Zelenskyy with a fugitive Prez?- Republic World

Amid the war, Ukraine’s former fugitive president Viktor Yanukovych may replace incumbent President Volodymyr Zelenskyy as soon as Russia declares victory over its neighbouring country. According to multiple media reports, Russia has brought former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych to...

www.republicworld.com

"Who Is Viktor Yanukovych & Why Is Russia Eager To Replace Zelenskyy With A Fugitive Prez?"

No hint it was Russia? Bullshit, massive hints it was Russia seeing how Russia POISONS PEOPLE to get rid of them.

So Yushchenko had some policies others might not like. Yushchenko's presidential career was coming to an end, and he might have been doing whatever it took to win the election, which he lost. You've got some nothing to prove something that just isn't true.

Wrong.
Until 2014, all candidates were pro-Russian.
And I disagree Yushchenko wanted to join NATO.
That would have been a treaty violation and forced Russia to invade.
No sane person running for office in the Ukraine would try to join NATO.
Nor would NATO have allowed the Ukraine to join back then.
Still should not.

And you are wrong.
Poisoning is very common in the Ukraine, about the most corrupt country in the world.

 

[Rigby5]

View attachment 616479

Not at all close to Russia. Poland and Latvia are between them.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Wrong.
Until 2014, all candidates were pro-Russian.
And I disagree Yushchenko wanted to join NATO.
That would have been a treaty violation and forced Russia to invade.
No sane person running for office in the Ukraine would try to join NATO.
Nor would NATO have allowed the Ukraine to join back then.
Still should not.

And you are wrong.
Poisoning is very common in the Ukraine, about the most corrupt country in the world.

Fucking hell, you're just making this shit up, aren't you?

 

[Rigby5]

The Russians are a paper tiger the US destroyed Iraq in days .

Russia is no match for the USA if Patton didn't get assassinated by Lenin in WW11 much less today .

The US never destroyed Iraq.
Iraq surrendered without a fight.
But the military of Iraq was a tiny bit of the 30 year off cast offs from Russia.

But Russia does not need a military to defeat a no-fly-zone.
All they need is their own version of stingers, which they have.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Next step? Alaska and part of California.

Ukraine: Russia demands return of Alaska and Californian fort

RUSSIA has demanded reparations from the US over the economic sanctions placed on the Kremlin by the West.

www.express.co.uk

 

[Rigby5]

Fucking hell, you're just making this shit up, aren't you?

Wrong.
The Ukraine has always had an extremely corrupt reputation.
For example, the death camps for Hitler were run by Ukrainians, like Demjanjuk at Sobibor.

And Yuschenko never blamed the Russians.
{...
Yushchenko himself implicated Davyd Zhvania, the godfather of one of his children, of involvement in his dioxin poisoning.[22]
...
On 27 September 2009, Yushchenko said in an interview aired on Channel 1+1 that the testimony of three men who were at a dinner in 2004 at which he believes he was poisoned is crucial to finishing the investigation, and he claimed these men were in Russia. Ukrainian prosecutors said Russia has refused to extradite one of the men, the former deputy chief of Ukraine's security service, Volodymyr Satsyuk, because he holds both Russian and Ukrainian citizenship.[24] Satsyuk returned to Ukraine in 2012 and tried to relaunch his political career, but didn't succeed.[25]
...}

Viktor Yushchenko - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Rigby5]

Next step? Alaska and part of California.

Ukraine: Russia demands return of Alaska and Californian fort

RUSSIA has demanded reparations from the US over the economic sanctions placed on the Kremlin by the West.

www.express.co.uk

Economic sanctions are totally illegal.
Interference with civilian commerce was outlawed by the 1906 Geneva conventions.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Wrong.
The Ukraine has always had an extremely corrupt reputation.
For example, the death camps for Hitler were run by Ukrainians, like Demjanjuk at Sobibor.

And Yuschenko never blamed the Russians.
{...
Yushchenko himself implicated Davyd Zhvania, the godfather of one of his children, of involvement in his dioxin poisoning.[22]
...
On 27 September 2009, Yushchenko said in an interview aired on Channel 1+1 that the testimony of three men who were at a dinner in 2004 at which he believes he was poisoned is crucial to finishing the investigation, and he claimed these men were in Russia. Ukrainian prosecutors said Russia has refused to extradite one of the men, the former deputy chief of Ukraine's security service, Volodymyr Satsyuk, because he holds both Russian and Ukrainian citizenship.[24] Satsyuk returned to Ukraine in 2012 and tried to relaunch his political career, but didn't succeed.[25]
...}

Viktor Yushchenko - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So, the Ukraine is a poor country, it has corruption.

So, your "logic" is to come on here and MAKE SHIT UP to justify a war?

Right.....

 

[Wyatt earp]

The US never destroyed Iraq.
Iraq surrendered without a fight.
But the military of Iraq was a tiny bit of the 30 year off cast offs from Russia.

But Russia does not need a military to defeat a no-fly-zone.
All they need is their own version of stingers, which they have.

We will see, it's getting that close

 

[22lcidw]

I rarely agree with a leftist like you but Theo is 100% on Obama-Biden-Clinton.

They instigated a COUP in Ukraine and then encouraged Ukraine to violate The Minsk Treaty.

This is why Globalists are so dangerous.

In recent years they are closer to closer to their dream. They smell blood. They have brainwashed the young while many of us let it go.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Wrong.
The Ukraine has always had an extremely corrupt reputation.
For example, the death camps for Hitler were run by Ukrainians, like Demjanjuk at Sobibor.

And Yuschenko never blamed the Russians.
{...
Yushchenko himself implicated Davyd Zhvania, the godfather of one of his children, of involvement in his dioxin poisoning.[22]
...
On 27 September 2009, Yushchenko said in an interview aired on Channel 1+1 that the testimony of three men who were at a dinner in 2004 at which he believes he was poisoned is crucial to finishing the investigation, and he claimed these men were in Russia. Ukrainian prosecutors said Russia has refused to extradite one of the men, the former deputy chief of Ukraine's security service, Volodymyr Satsyuk, because he holds both Russian and Ukrainian citizenship.[24] Satsyuk returned to Ukraine in 2012 and tried to relaunch his political career, but didn't succeed.[25]
...}

Viktor Yushchenko - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I have friends in Ukraine, Estonia and Lithonia I say your wrong

 

[FA_Q2]

Fucking hell, you're just making this shit up, aren't you?

Rigby lives in a different universe.

A completely different universe.

 

[Colin norris]

I could care less I just want our southern border fixed, I want Americans to stop dying because of bad immigration

What about the Northern border?
If russia doesn't matter to you, why the bleating about dear gas?
Why dont you care about the slaughter of kids in schools because of the gun saturation and a country full of idiots?
Youve got your priorities right.