If You Defended ObamaCare....

[PoliticalChic]

This is today's winner in the category of "Unintentional Humor"...


Obama is the runner-up.

But the winners are every single lock-step Liberal who defended the scam, ObamaCare.


Get this: as soon as government employees discovered that they would have to be covered by ObamaCare.....the panic was so palpable....that

The United States government acted faster than ever before:






1."All over the country, people are worried about how Obamacare will affect the cost and quality of their health coverage. Members of Congress and their staffs were especially panicked,.....

2. Capitol Hill collectively exhaled yesterday, when it came out that the U.S. Office of Personnel Management would allow members and their staffs to keep their insurance subsidies.

3. Obama has personally involved himself in the controversy over whether or not Congressmen and Hill staffers should retain access to their insurance subsidies. “It is extraordinarily rare, to say the least, for the president of the United States to get involved in an inside-the-Beltway flap over the payment of health care premiums,” note the Politico authors.

4. ...“some lawmakers have privately threatened to push through a legislative fix—possibly attached to a must-pass spending bill—that would require the government to continue its contributions for health care premiums for Hill employees.”





5. ....Obamacare that requires members and staffers to get their coverage on the new exchanges, instead of from the Federal Employee Health Benefits Program, or FEHBP.

Section 1312(d)(3)(D) of the Affordable Care Act states it clearly: “The only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and their congressional staff with respect to their service as a Member of Congress or congressional staff shall be health plans that are created under this Act…or offered through an Exchange established under this Act.”
[This is the LAW! So...do Obamaunists obey it???]



6. ....federal employees are unhappy about that prospect. The labor union representing IRS agents has urged its members to tell Congress that they are “very concerned” about such an outcome.






[And get this: Obama can no longer pretend that laws mean anything to him.]

7. UPDATE: Bob Moffit, Ed Haislmaier, and Joseph Morris of the Heritage Foundation are out with a new paper arguing that OPM “lacks statutory authority” to subsidize Congress’ health plans in the exchange.
Morris is a former general counsel for OPM."
Congressmen Rejoice! Govt. To Subsidize Their Health Insurance Through Obamacare's Exchanges - Forbes







Reality is defined by actions....not words.

Liberals, Obama voters, can no longer pretend that they believed all the lies Obama told, or that ObamaCare defenders swore to.



As we said at the start, ObamaCare is simply a takeover of a huge segment of the private economy.
There are death panels.
Healthcare will be rationed.
Costs will rise, not fall.
People will suffer a drop in the quality of the world's best healthcare.

Liberals will have pushed us all further under the umbrella of totalitarianism.

 

[auditor0007]

This is today's winner in the category of "Unintentional Humor"...


Obama is the runner-up.

But the winners are every single lock-step Liberal who defended the scam, ObamaCare.


Get this: as soon as government employees discovered that they would have to be covered by ObamaCare.....the panic was so palpable....that

The United States government acted faster than ever before:






1."All over the country, people are worried about how Obamacare will affect the cost and quality of their health coverage. Members of Congress and their staffs were especially panicked,.....

2. Capitol Hill collectively exhaled yesterday, when it came out that the U.S. Office of Personnel Management would allow members and their staffs to keep their insurance subsidies.

3. Obama has personally involved himself in the controversy over whether or not Congressmen and Hill staffers should retain access to their insurance subsidies. “It is extraordinarily rare, to say the least, for the president of the United States to get involved in an inside-the-Beltway flap over the payment of health care premiums,” note the Politico authors.

4. ...“some lawmakers have privately threatened to push through a legislative fix—possibly attached to a must-pass spending bill—that would require the government to continue its contributions for health care premiums for Hill employees.”





5. ....Obamacare that requires members and staffers to get their coverage on the new exchanges, instead of from the Federal Employee Health Benefits Program, or FEHBP.

Section 1312(d)(3)(D) of the Affordable Care Act states it clearly: “The only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and their congressional staff with respect to their service as a Member of Congress or congressional staff shall be health plans that are created under this Act…or offered through an Exchange established under this Act.”
[This is the LAW! So...do Obamaunists obey it???]



6. ....federal employees are unhappy about that prospect. The labor union representing IRS agents has urged its members to tell Congress that they are “very concerned” about such an outcome.






[And get this: Obama can no longer pretend that laws mean anything to him.]

7. UPDATE: Bob Moffit, Ed Haislmaier, and Joseph Morris of the Heritage Foundation are out with a new paper arguing that OPM “lacks statutory authority” to subsidize Congress’ health plans in the exchange.
Morris is a former general counsel for OPM."
Congressmen Rejoice! Govt. To Subsidize Their Health Insurance Through Obamacare's Exchanges - Forbes







Reality is defined by actions....not words.

Liberals, Obama voters, can no longer pretend that they believed all the lies Obama told, or that ObamaCare defenders swore to.



As we said at the start, ObamaCare is simply a takeover of a huge segment of the private economy.
There are death panels.
Healthcare will be rationed.
Costs will rise, not fall.
People will suffer a drop in the quality of the world's best healthcare.

Liberals will have pushed us all further under the umbrella of totalitarianism.

That was all BS to begin with. There was no reason for the federal government not to continue providing their health insurance. Next.

 

[PoliticalChic]

This is today's winner in the category of "Unintentional Humor"...


Obama is the runner-up.

But the winners are every single lock-step Liberal who defended the scam, ObamaCare.


Get this: as soon as government employees discovered that they would have to be covered by ObamaCare.....the panic was so palpable....that

The United States government acted faster than ever before:






1."All over the country, people are worried about how Obamacare will affect the cost and quality of their health coverage. Members of Congress and their staffs were especially panicked,.....

2. Capitol Hill collectively exhaled yesterday, when it came out that the U.S. Office of Personnel Management would allow members and their staffs to keep their insurance subsidies.

3. Obama has personally involved himself in the controversy over whether or not Congressmen and Hill staffers should retain access to their insurance subsidies. “It is extraordinarily rare, to say the least, for the president of the United States to get involved in an inside-the-Beltway flap over the payment of health care premiums,” note the Politico authors.

4. ...“some lawmakers have privately threatened to push through a legislative fix—possibly attached to a must-pass spending bill—that would require the government to continue its contributions for health care premiums for Hill employees.”





5. ....Obamacare that requires members and staffers to get their coverage on the new exchanges, instead of from the Federal Employee Health Benefits Program, or FEHBP.

Section 1312(d)(3)(D) of the Affordable Care Act states it clearly: “The only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and their congressional staff with respect to their service as a Member of Congress or congressional staff shall be health plans that are created under this Act…or offered through an Exchange established under this Act.”
[This is the LAW! So...do Obamaunists obey it???]



6. ....federal employees are unhappy about that prospect. The labor union representing IRS agents has urged its members to tell Congress that they are “very concerned” about such an outcome.






[And get this: Obama can no longer pretend that laws mean anything to him.]

7. UPDATE: Bob Moffit, Ed Haislmaier, and Joseph Morris of the Heritage Foundation are out with a new paper arguing that OPM “lacks statutory authority” to subsidize Congress’ health plans in the exchange.
Morris is a former general counsel for OPM."
Congressmen Rejoice! Govt. To Subsidize Their Health Insurance Through Obamacare's Exchanges - Forbes







Reality is defined by actions....not words.

Liberals, Obama voters, can no longer pretend that they believed all the lies Obama told, or that ObamaCare defenders swore to.



As we said at the start, ObamaCare is simply a takeover of a huge segment of the private economy.
There are death panels.
Healthcare will be rationed.
Costs will rise, not fall.
People will suffer a drop in the quality of the world's best healthcare.

Liberals will have pushed us all further under the umbrella of totalitarianism.

That was all BS to begin with. There was no reason for the federal government not to continue providing their health insurance. Next.

The government workers and unions who supported ObamaCare are now squawking because they would be forced to be covered by same....

...why is it that you fail to see that as the point?

 

[Toronado3800]

This is today's winner in the category of "Unintentional Humor"...


Obama is the runner-up.

But the winners are every single lock-step Liberal who defended the scam, ObamaCare.


Get this: as soon as government employees discovered that they would have to be covered by ObamaCare.....the panic was so palpable....that

The United States government acted faster than ever before:






1."All over the country, people are worried about how Obamacare will affect the cost and quality of their health coverage. Members of Congress and their staffs were especially panicked,.....

2. Capitol Hill collectively exhaled yesterday, when it came out that the U.S. Office of Personnel Management would allow members and their staffs to keep their insurance subsidies.

3. Obama has personally involved himself in the controversy over whether or not Congressmen and Hill staffers should retain access to their insurance subsidies. “It is extraordinarily rare, to say the least, for the president of the United States to get involved in an inside-the-Beltway flap over the payment of health care premiums,” note the Politico authors.

4. ...“some lawmakers have privately threatened to push through a legislative fix—possibly attached to a must-pass spending bill—that would require the government to continue its contributions for health care premiums for Hill employees.”





5. ....Obamacare that requires members and staffers to get their coverage on the new exchanges, instead of from the Federal Employee Health Benefits Program, or FEHBP.

Section 1312(d)(3)(D) of the Affordable Care Act states it clearly: “The only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and their congressional staff with respect to their service as a Member of Congress or congressional staff shall be health plans that are created under this Act…or offered through an Exchange established under this Act.”
[This is the LAW! So...do Obamaunists obey it???]



6. ....federal employees are unhappy about that prospect. The labor union representing IRS agents has urged its members to tell Congress that they are “very concerned” about such an outcome.






[And get this: Obama can no longer pretend that laws mean anything to him.]

7. UPDATE: Bob Moffit, Ed Haislmaier, and Joseph Morris of the Heritage Foundation are out with a new paper arguing that OPM “lacks statutory authority” to subsidize Congress’ health plans in the exchange.
Morris is a former general counsel for OPM."
Congressmen Rejoice! Govt. To Subsidize Their Health Insurance Through Obamacare's Exchanges - Forbes







Reality is defined by actions....not words.

Liberals, Obama voters, can no longer pretend that they believed all the lies Obama told, or that ObamaCare defenders swore to.



As we said at the start, ObamaCare is simply a takeover of a huge segment of the private economy.
There are death panels.
Healthcare will be rationed.
Costs will rise, not fall.
People will suffer a drop in the quality of the world's best healthcare.

Liberals will have pushed us all further under the umbrella of totalitarianism.

Phew. So they retained their previous health insurance coverage through work just like I am?

 

[Spoonman]

if it is going to be labeled universal healthcare, let it be universal

 

[Toronado3800]

if it is going to be labeled universal healthcare, let it be universal

I do not understand. I have healthcare. Universally everyone will, or should and will have to pay for it, and if I think my private plan is better it wins out.

Now the math may be screwed from here to the end of the universe, we may have to adjust it. But I think the goal is for everyone in the country to more or less pay for insurance every time they have a job. This will cut down on the old freeloaders from the Noxon/Johnson era system.

 

[PoliticalChic]

if it is going to be labeled universal healthcare, let it be universal

I do not understand. I have healthcare. Universally everyone will, or should and will have to pay for it, and if I think my private plan is better it wins out.

Now the math may be screwed from here to the end of the universe, we may have to adjust it. But I think the goal is for everyone in the country to more or less pay for insurance every time they have a job. This will cut down on the old freeloaders from the Noxon/Johnson era system.

And....prior to ObamaCare....everyone in the country had healthcare, as well.

 

[Spoonman]

if it is going to be labeled universal healthcare, let it be universal

I do not understand. I have healthcare. Universally everyone will, or should and will have to pay for it, and if I think my private plan is better it wins out.

Now the math may be screwed from here to the end of the universe, we may have to adjust it. But I think the goal is for everyone in the country to more or less pay for insurance every time they have a job. This will cut down on the old freeloaders from the Noxon/Johnson era system.

actually it is going to add an ever growing number of freeloaders to the system.

 

[PoliticalChic]

if it is going to be labeled universal healthcare, let it be universal

I do not understand. I have healthcare. Universally everyone will, or should and will have to pay for it, and if I think my private plan is better it wins out.

Now the math may be screwed from here to the end of the universe, we may have to adjust it. But I think the goal is for everyone in the country to more or less pay for insurance every time they have a job. This will cut down on the old freeloaders from the Noxon/Johnson era system.

actually it is going to add an ever growing number of freeloaders to the system.

The lies that the Left accepted and still accepts are myriad....

Remember the original 'cover 30 million uninsured' fable?



According to the CBO, in 2015 there will be 36 million uninsured nonelderly Americans.
http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/43472-07-24-2012-CoverageEstimates.pdf (table 3)



The supporters must feel like fools.

 

[Mad Scientist]

The Banker controlled US Government gave the gift of ObamaCare to the Insurance Industry. Only stupid Americans think the average person is gonna' benefit from it.

 

[Spoonman]

The Banker controlled US Government gave the gift of ObamaCare to the Insurance Industry. Only stupid Americans think the average person is gonna' benefit from it.

its spreading the wealth plain and simple. the only one to benefit from this is the segment of the population who is already contributing nothing.

 

[Toronado3800]

if it is going to be labeled universal healthcare, let it be universal

I do not understand. I have healthcare. Universally everyone will, or should and will have to pay for it, and if I think my private plan is better it wins out.

Now the math may be screwed from here to the end of the universe, we may have to adjust it. But I think the goal is for everyone in the country to more or less pay for insurance every time they have a job. This will cut down on the old freeloaders from the Noxon/Johnson era system.

actually it is going to add an ever growing number of freeloaders to the system.

I dunno. Two of my co workers are worried about the panalty for being uninsured. Thirty something 20 - 30 k a year fellas. Too bad the penalty for them being uninsured isn't worse because just like the old freeloader socialist system if they show up at the hospital they get treated.

 

[Toronado3800]

The Banker controlled US Government gave the gift of ObamaCare to the Insurance Industry. Only stupid Americans think the average person is gonna' benefit from it.

In a way I agree. Just like my state's compulsive auto liability insurance law folks mostly have to pay.

HOPEFULLY the added regulations balance it a bit.

 

[Toronado3800]

if it is going to be labeled universal healthcare, let it be universal

I do not understand. I have healthcare. Universally everyone will, or should and will have to pay for it, and if I think my private plan is better it wins out.

Now the math may be screwed from here to the end of the universe, we may have to adjust it. But I think the goal is for everyone in the country to more or less pay for insurance every time they have a job. This will cut down on the old freeloaders from the Noxon/Johnson era system.

And....prior to ObamaCare....everyone in the country had healthcare, as well.

THANK YOU. and many just failed to pay into it or figured some kind of disability would bail them out when things got bad.

Obamacare could be more simple no doubt. But the point is we need everyone to have SOME form of insurance. My whole life I have known folks riding the system getting virtually free healthcare on my dime. And trust me, except for the negative impact on property values I could care less if hospitals throw the sick and broke out on the streets so they can wait for Jesus to come heal em.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I do not understand. I have healthcare. Universally everyone will, or should and will have to pay for it, and if I think my private plan is better it wins out.

Now the math may be screwed from here to the end of the universe, we may have to adjust it. But I think the goal is for everyone in the country to more or less pay for insurance every time they have a job. This will cut down on the old freeloaders from the Noxon/Johnson era system.

And....prior to ObamaCare....everyone in the country had healthcare, as well.

THANK YOU. and many just failed to pay into it or figured some kind of disability would bail them out when things got bad.

Obamacare could be more simple no doubt. But the point is we need everyone to have SOME form of insurance. My whole life I have known folks riding the system getting virtually free healthcare on my dime. And trust me, except for the negative impact on property values I could care less if hospitals throw the sick and broke out on the streets so they can wait for Jesus to come heal em.

The unspoken- and incorrect- assumption in your post is that ObamaCare will reduce the costs of healthcare.

"Flashback: Obama pledged to reduce health insurance premiums by $2,500 per family per year."
Flashback: Obama pledged to reduce health insurance premiums by $2,500 per family per year | Twitchy



The shortest distance in Washington is the space between and Obama promise and its empirical disproof.



Wise up.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

if it is going to be labeled universal healthcare, let it be universal

I do not understand. I have healthcare. Universally everyone will, or should and will have to pay for it, and if I think my private plan is better it wins out.

Now the math may be screwed from here to the end of the universe, we may have to adjust it. But I think the goal is for everyone in the country to more or less pay for insurance every time they have a job. This will cut down on the old freeloaders from the Noxon/Johnson era system.

And....prior to ObamaCare....everyone in the country had healthcare, as well.

True.

But, why should I be forced to pay for your health care? With ObamaCare, if you are able, you will have to pay for your own. Deal with is.

I posted 5 links to very easily understood FACTS about ACA. You really don't have to make up shit, unless of course, that serves your goal better than just telling the truth.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/healt...althcare/306820-confused-about-obamacare.html

 

[Luddly Neddite]

if it is going to be labeled universal healthcare, let it be universal

I do not understand. I have healthcare. Universally everyone will, or should and will have to pay for it, and if I think my private plan is better it wins out.

Now the math may be screwed from here to the end of the universe, we may have to adjust it. But I think the goal is for everyone in the country to more or less pay for insurance every time they have a job. This will cut down on the old freeloaders from the Noxon/Johnson era system.

You're right.

We're used to giving free care to anyone and everyone who happens to wander into the ER but it has driven hospitals to the brink. Because those freeloaders can walk away from their bills, we've lost trauma and burn centers all across the country.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I do not understand. I have healthcare. Universally everyone will, or should and will have to pay for it, and if I think my private plan is better it wins out.

Now the math may be screwed from here to the end of the universe, we may have to adjust it. But I think the goal is for everyone in the country to more or less pay for insurance every time they have a job. This will cut down on the old freeloaders from the Noxon/Johnson era system.

And....prior to ObamaCare....everyone in the country had healthcare, as well.

True.

But, why should I be forced to pay for your health care? With ObamaCare, if you are able, you will have to pay for your own. Deal with is.

I posted 5 links to very easily understood FACTS about ACA. You really don't have to make up shit, unless of course, that serves your goal better than just telling the truth.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/healt...althcare/306820-confused-about-obamacare.html

I made nothing up, Ugly Necktie....
Nor did I suggest nor state that you had to pay for my healthcare.
You simply made that up.

...you ignored the OP.




As in:

Section 1312(d)(3)(D) of the Affordable Care Act states it clearly: “The only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and their congressional staff with respect to their service as a Member of Congress or congressional staff shall be health plans that are created under this Act…or offered through an Exchange established under this Act.”
[This is the LAW! So...do Obamaunists obey it???]



But here is your lesson on ObamaCare.
It is not designed to improve the quality of healthcare, nor to cover all Americans, not even to reduce costs.


It is a plan to grow the ever increasing federal government.
It seems that there are enough dolts, like you, to support much of the endeavor.
But....growing fewer by the day.


See:
http://www.usmessageboard.com/healt...073-what-the-hill-refers-to-death-panels.html

 

[PoliticalChic]

if it is going to be labeled universal healthcare, let it be universal

I do not understand. I have healthcare. Universally everyone will, or should and will have to pay for it, and if I think my private plan is better it wins out.

Now the math may be screwed from here to the end of the universe, we may have to adjust it. But I think the goal is for everyone in the country to more or less pay for insurance every time they have a job. This will cut down on the old freeloaders from the Noxon/Johnson era system.

You're right.

We're used to giving free care to anyone and everyone who happens to wander into the ER but it has driven hospitals to the brink. Because those freeloaders can walk away from their bills, we've lost trauma and burn centers all across the country.

Watch me skewer your nonsense.


1. "President Obama: Romneycare Was the Model for Obamacare"
President Obama: Romneycare Was the Model for Obamacare ? Press Releases ? Barack Obama



So....how has the socialized healthcare affected ER visits?


2. . ER visits, costs in Mass. climb

Questions raised about healthcare law's impact on overuse

By Liz Kowalczyk
Globe Staff / April 24, 2009


More people are seeking care in hospital emergency rooms, and the cost of caring for ER patients has soared 17 percent over two years, despite efforts to direct patients with nonurgent problems to primary care doctors instead, according to new state data. ER visits, costs in Mass. climb - The Boston Globe
ER visits, costs in Mass. climb - The Boston Globe



Now....don't you feel like a dunce?

 

[MeBelle]

Because ACA doesn't cover illegal immigrants, who pays for their hospital bills?