If You're Not Happy With Any Party Right Now

[ricechickie]

When gay people can't get married, and when transgenders can get fired for being transgender, things aren't equal.

When our immigration policy is boiled down to religion (Muslim ban) things aren't equal. Now you will say that they aren't citizens, they don't get equality. You are correct. But it sets a precedent of Muslim inequality here in the US.

Oh well THANK GOD!!!!!!!!
It's ok that Obama and the Democrats enriched globalist corporations using OUR money...bailed out the very people who caused the collapse (no one went to jail).....but they passed transgender rights.....so yes, they are SO awesome!!!!!!!!

Why do you get so hysterical?

I wasn't thrilled with the bailout, either. But I'm not a one-issue voter.

Yeah...we have a government out of control, politicians ripping us off, a police state in the works, war and more war, a military industrial complex controlling foriegn policy, the rich getting amazing rich thanks to government connections and protection, a media controlled by six billionaire corporations, our rights being taken...etc...nothing to get hysterical about.

Whatever you say, Chicken Little!

You'll know when you're really oppressed.

Clearly reality is not your strong suit.

Whatever you say. I believe the country that is flexible is resilient. Strict ideology kills.

 

[Auld Phart]

Oh, and what rights arent equal, exactly?

When gay people can't get married, and when transgenders can get fired for being transgender, things aren't equal.

When our immigration policy is boiled down to religion (Muslim ban) things aren't equal. Now you will say that they aren't citizens, they don't get equality. You are correct. But it sets a precedent of Muslim inequality here in the US.

When our immigration policy is boiled down to religion (Muslim ban) things aren't equal.

You do realize the courts ruled on a campaign speech, and not the EO, right?

There is no 'Muslim Ban', except in the minds of the conned.

The campaign speech shows intent.

what does that matter?

Because he wanted a Muslim ban, and whatever they call it, they effectively enacted a Muslim ban.

6 countries hold all of the Muslims?

Considering the problems in England, should we add it to the 'Muslim ban'?

How about Germany?

do you understand how silly your comments are?

 

[TNHarley]

Oh, and what rights arent equal, exactly?

When gay people can't get married, and when transgenders can get fired for being transgender, things aren't equal.

When our immigration policy is boiled down to religion (Muslim ban) things aren't equal. Now you will say that they aren't citizens, they don't get equality. You are correct. But it sets a precedent of Muslim inequality here in the US.

When our immigration policy is boiled down to religion (Muslim ban) things aren't equal.

You do realize the courts ruled on a campaign speech, and not the EO, right?

There is no 'Muslim Ban', except in the minds of the conned.

The campaign speech shows intent.

what does that matter?

Because he wanted a Muslim ban, and whatever they call it, they effectively enacted a Muslim ban.

I must have missed the part that showed all that muslim banning bigotry. Maybe i should read the order again..

 

[deanrd]

There used to be a popular bumper sticker, "Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way"
In that scenario, I need to get out of the way. I'd happily be a follower, if there were someone I felt was worthy of following. Maybe there's a silver lining in every storm cloud. I wanted to share this with those of you who feel like me. Things may get better. Maybe some of us need to get involved in one way or other.
As bones says, stay strong.


Kathleen Parker: Trump's unique gift to America

• Jul 18, 2017
  
• BANNER ELK, N.C. — Even the least popular presidents sometimes do great things.

What might Donald Trump’s great thing be? He has unified a divided nation.

He has brought Republicans and Democrats together as only just wars can. He’s brought women, scientists, minorities, teachers, journalists, professors — and no, they’re not all liberal — out of their favorite laptop seats and moved them to march, protest and, most important, run for public office.


The pink-capped Women’s March is familiar to all but the dead. On Earth Day in April, scientists around the world staged rallies to protest Trump’s apparent lack of interest in research-backed facts.

A few prominent conservatives — George Will and Joe Scarborough among them — have left the GOP, while Democrats have offered to take drastic action.

A majority say they would forswear drinking for life if it would mean Trump’s impeachment, according to a story in The Hill. This seems a tad excessive, though given the increased alcohol consumption (anecdotally) since Trump took office, a long-term wagon ride might be just what the doctor would order. Relatedly, if not causatively, Nevada ran out of marijuana products a few days after the state legalized recreational use.

When have so many Americans of so many stripes been so united in a shared mission? And, no, Woodstock doesn’t count.

Other gifts from the president include an increased national interest in politics, civic participation and electoral office. Trump seems to be on the tip of everyone’s tongue, even among those who have never before expressed any interest in politics.

Chris Clark, an artist in this mountain village, echoed the sentiments one hears several times on any given day. “I’m obsessed with the news,” he told me during a recent visit to his gallery.

“All I do is watch TV now,” he laughed. “It’s like watching a train wreck, you can’t look away. It’s hard to go to work, really!”

Meanwhile, countless Republicans and Democrats and independents, the nonpolitical as well as scientists, teachers, and, sure, a freshly emboldened outlier class (Jay Z?) are considering running for public office, a goal previously not on the radar.

A newly formed Political Action Committee — 314 Action — is urging scientists to “Get Elected” and offers help with funding and logistics. Hundreds have signed up. Similarly, Silicon Valley tech magnate Sam Altman — president of Y Combinator, which invests in start-ups such as Dropbox and Airbnb — is offering to fund good candidates for statewide office to “create prosperity through technology, economic fairness and maintaining personal liberty.”

Nationally, a centrist movement is gaining traction under the self-explaining name of “No Labels,” and may yet prove to be a counterforce in the zero-sum sport of current politics. The group organized in 2010 and is co-chaired by former Republican Gov. Jon Huntsman and former Democrat (later Independent) Joe Lieberman.

Today, more than 70 members of Congress from both parties have formed a bipartisan coalition called the “No Labels Problem Solvers,” pledging to work together on legislative initiatives. Earlier this month, the congressional group released its first bipartisan effort — a “Make Government Work!” legislative package aimed at reducing government waste and inefficiency. Coming up in September, No Labels will host an international Ideas Summit to coincide with the United Nations General Assembly session in New York.

Thus, though our national political narrative is that we’re more divided than ever, a dispassionate second look suggests otherwise. We’re not so much divided as stuck. Running in mud. That’s not the swamp draining; it’s the muck of money, greed, self-interest and one-upmanship — Washington’s unique art of the deal.

We don’t have only Trump to thank. The ecosystem of media-generated conflict and America’s penchant for spectator sports has ensured a persistent game of warring factions — a perfect milieu for someone like Trump with his particular talents. He merely strolled to the lectern, called everybody else a loser, and plowed his way to the presidency on a whim and the most golden of promises — to make America great again.

We have work to do. There is hope. A trend seems to be taking shape if momentum can be nourished. What an irony if Trump’s presidency made America great again by inspiring people to get elected whose civilian lives have been circumscribed by the pursuit of knowledge, wisdom and truth, which is not, in fact, relative.

Trump would go down as one of the greatest unifying presidents in history — the sooner the better.


Kathleen Parker’s email address is [email protected].
Kathleen Parker: Trump's unique gift to America

Republicans are leading.

Demoncraps are not following or getting out of the way.

Let Obamacare die.

Because Americans suffering is so funny, right?

 

[ricechickie]

You are being an asshole with the private property question. What did I write that could have led you to think I might not believe in private property????

I just answered that. How can you believe in private property when you also support the govts action of over reach? Power they shouldnt even have, dictating how you use/run your property? That doesnt make sense to me. Kinda takes the whole meaning out of "private"

Education is government "overreach"?

Do you want it to be all private, or something?

I get your healthcare argument. No one wants to be told they have to buy health insurance. Which is why I support single payer healthcare.

what does the constitution say about education?

Absolutely nothing. It does talk about general welfare.

Which leaves it to the states. Promoting general welfare doesnt mean creating it.

Public education is "welfare"?

Please answer. Do you want it to be privatized, for profit, education?

 

[gipper]

Oh well THANK GOD!!!!!!!!
It's ok that Obama and the Democrats enriched globalist corporations using OUR money...bailed out the very people who caused the collapse (no one went to jail).....but they passed transgender rights.....so yes, they are SO awesome!!!!!!!!

Why do you get so hysterical?

I wasn't thrilled with the bailout, either. But I'm not a one-issue voter.

Yeah...we have a government out of control, politicians ripping us off, a police state in the works, war and more war, a military industrial complex controlling foriegn policy, the rich getting amazing rich thanks to government connections and protection, a media controlled by six billionaire corporations, our rights being taken...etc...nothing to get hysterical about.

Whatever you say, Chicken Little!

You'll know when you're really oppressed.

Clearly reality is not your strong suit.

Whatever you say. I believe the country that is flexible is resilient. Strict ideology kills.

Your post means nothing.

 

[TNHarley]

Oh well THANK GOD!!!!!!!!
It's ok that Obama and the Democrats enriched globalist corporations using OUR money...bailed out the very people who caused the collapse (no one went to jail).....but they passed transgender rights.....so yes, they are SO awesome!!!!!!!!

Why do you get so hysterical?

I wasn't thrilled with the bailout, either. But I'm not a one-issue voter.

Yeah...we have a government out of control, politicians ripping us off, a police state in the works, war and more war, a military industrial complex controlling foriegn policy, the rich getting amazing rich thanks to government connections and protection, a media controlled by six billionaire corporations, our rights being taken...etc...nothing to get hysterical about.

Whatever you say, Chicken Little!

You'll know when you're really oppressed.

Clearly reality is not your strong suit.

Whatever you say. I believe the country that is flexible is resilient. Strict ideology kills.

In this case, the "flexibility" is entirely coming from the people. Awesome

 

[usmbguest5318]

What might Donald Trump’s great thing be? He has unified a divided nation.

He has brought Republicans and Democrats together as only just wars can. He’s brought women, scientists, minorities, teachers, journalists, professors — and no, they’re not all liberal — out of their favorite laptop seats and moved them to march, protest and, most important, run for public office.

Well, yes, that's a thing Trump has done. Silver lining? Tarnished brass is more what I'd call it. I doubt anyone wants to be unified that way by their own countryman.

 

[ricechickie]

When gay people can't get married, and when transgenders can get fired for being transgender, things aren't equal.

When our immigration policy is boiled down to religion (Muslim ban) things aren't equal. Now you will say that they aren't citizens, they don't get equality. You are correct. But it sets a precedent of Muslim inequality here in the US.

When our immigration policy is boiled down to religion (Muslim ban) things aren't equal.

You do realize the courts ruled on a campaign speech, and not the EO, right?

There is no 'Muslim Ban', except in the minds of the conned.

The campaign speech shows intent.

what does that matter?

Because he wanted a Muslim ban, and whatever they call it, they effectively enacted a Muslim ban.

6 countries hold all of the Muslims?

Considering the problems in England, should we add it to the 'Muslim ban'?

How about Germany?

do you understand how silly your comments are?

To a bigot, if he can't ban all Muslims, he can still make a good start with those countries.

It's like the poll tax of old. It prevented many black people from voting, due to their poverty rates. Did it prevent all? No. But it made an impact.

 

[TNHarley]

I just answered that. How can you believe in private property when you also support the govts action of over reach? Power they shouldnt even have, dictating how you use/run your property? That doesnt make sense to me. Kinda takes the whole meaning out of "private"

Education is government "overreach"?

Do you want it to be all private, or something?

I get your healthcare argument. No one wants to be told they have to buy health insurance. Which is why I support single payer healthcare.

what does the constitution say about education?

Absolutely nothing. It does talk about general welfare.

Which leaves it to the states. Promoting general welfare doesnt mean creating it.

Public education is "welfare"?

Please answer. Do you want it to be privatized, for profit, education?

What? no...
For profit is fine. I support private and public schools.
I said i wanted it reserved to the states..

 

[ricechickie]

Why do you get so hysterical?

I wasn't thrilled with the bailout, either. But I'm not a one-issue voter.

Yeah...we have a government out of control, politicians ripping us off, a police state in the works, war and more war, a military industrial complex controlling foriegn policy, the rich getting amazing rich thanks to government connections and protection, a media controlled by six billionaire corporations, our rights being taken...etc...nothing to get hysterical about.

Whatever you say, Chicken Little!

You'll know when you're really oppressed.

Clearly reality is not your strong suit.

Whatever you say. I believe the country that is flexible is resilient. Strict ideology kills.

Your post means nothing.

Then best stop reading and replying. Your time is clearly valuable.

 

[OldLady]

There used to be a popular bumper sticker, "Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way"
In that scenario, I need to get out of the way. I'd happily be a follower, if there were someone I felt was worthy of following. Maybe there's a silver lining in every storm cloud. I wanted to share this with those of you who feel like me. Things may get better. Maybe some of us need to get involved in one way or other.
As bones says, stay strong.


Kathleen Parker: Trump's unique gift to America

• Jul 18, 2017
  
• BANNER ELK, N.C. — Even the least popular presidents sometimes do great things.

What might Donald Trump’s great thing be? He has unified a divided nation.

He has brought Republicans and Democrats together as only just wars can. He’s brought women, scientists, minorities, teachers, journalists, professors — and no, they’re not all liberal — out of their favorite laptop seats and moved them to march, protest and, most important, run for public office.


The pink-capped Women’s March is familiar to all but the dead. On Earth Day in April, scientists around the world staged rallies to protest Trump’s apparent lack of interest in research-backed facts.

A few prominent conservatives — George Will and Joe Scarborough among them — have left the GOP, while Democrats have offered to take drastic action.

A majority say they would forswear drinking for life if it would mean Trump’s impeachment, according to a story in The Hill. This seems a tad excessive, though given the increased alcohol consumption (anecdotally) since Trump took office, a long-term wagon ride might be just what the doctor would order. Relatedly, if not causatively, Nevada ran out of marijuana products a few days after the state legalized recreational use.

When have so many Americans of so many stripes been so united in a shared mission? And, no, Woodstock doesn’t count.

Other gifts from the president include an increased national interest in politics, civic participation and electoral office. Trump seems to be on the tip of everyone’s tongue, even among those who have never before expressed any interest in politics.

Chris Clark, an artist in this mountain village, echoed the sentiments one hears several times on any given day. “I’m obsessed with the news,” he told me during a recent visit to his gallery.

“All I do is watch TV now,” he laughed. “It’s like watching a train wreck, you can’t look away. It’s hard to go to work, really!”

Meanwhile, countless Republicans and Democrats and independents, the nonpolitical as well as scientists, teachers, and, sure, a freshly emboldened outlier class (Jay Z?) are considering running for public office, a goal previously not on the radar.

A newly formed Political Action Committee — 314 Action — is urging scientists to “Get Elected” and offers help with funding and logistics. Hundreds have signed up. Similarly, Silicon Valley tech magnate Sam Altman — president of Y Combinator, which invests in start-ups such as Dropbox and Airbnb — is offering to fund good candidates for statewide office to “create prosperity through technology, economic fairness and maintaining personal liberty.”

Nationally, a centrist movement is gaining traction under the self-explaining name of “No Labels,” and may yet prove to be a counterforce in the zero-sum sport of current politics. The group organized in 2010 and is co-chaired by former Republican Gov. Jon Huntsman and former Democrat (later Independent) Joe Lieberman.

Today, more than 70 members of Congress from both parties have formed a bipartisan coalition called the “No Labels Problem Solvers,” pledging to work together on legislative initiatives. Earlier this month, the congressional group released its first bipartisan effort — a “Make Government Work!” legislative package aimed at reducing government waste and inefficiency. Coming up in September, No Labels will host an international Ideas Summit to coincide with the United Nations General Assembly session in New York.

Thus, though our national political narrative is that we’re more divided than ever, a dispassionate second look suggests otherwise. We’re not so much divided as stuck. Running in mud. That’s not the swamp draining; it’s the muck of money, greed, self-interest and one-upmanship — Washington’s unique art of the deal.

We don’t have only Trump to thank. The ecosystem of media-generated conflict and America’s penchant for spectator sports has ensured a persistent game of warring factions — a perfect milieu for someone like Trump with his particular talents. He merely strolled to the lectern, called everybody else a loser, and plowed his way to the presidency on a whim and the most golden of promises — to make America great again.

We have work to do. There is hope. A trend seems to be taking shape if momentum can be nourished. What an irony if Trump’s presidency made America great again by inspiring people to get elected whose civilian lives have been circumscribed by the pursuit of knowledge, wisdom and truth, which is not, in fact, relative.

Trump would go down as one of the greatest unifying presidents in history — the sooner the better.


Kathleen Parker’s email address is [email protected].
Kathleen Parker: Trump's unique gift to America

I was going to offer a comprehensive analysis of what Parker is doing, or trying to do.

But really, I think it boils down to this: She's trying to put lipstick on a pig.
.

I like the No Labels concept. That's a worthless concept in your eyes?

 

[ricechickie]

Education is government "overreach"?

Do you want it to be all private, or something?

I get your healthcare argument. No one wants to be told they have to buy health insurance. Which is why I support single payer healthcare.

what does the constitution say about education?

Absolutely nothing. It does talk about general welfare.

Which leaves it to the states. Promoting general welfare doesnt mean creating it.

Public education is "welfare"?

Please answer. Do you want it to be privatized, for profit, education?

What? no...
For profit is fine. I support private and public schools.
I said i wanted it reserved to the states..

So the states that are failing their students.......?

 

[debbiedowner]

This is why i hate the duopoly. They are SO full of shit. But the population just buys their horseshit..
You have to be a COMPLETE MORON to think they give a fuck about you.

Another editorial in my op ed section this morning was saying the duopoly is about to end. That they are destroying themselves/each other and are about to fracture into groups with real ideas, not bumper sticker logos and billions of dollars to get a shiny new Ken doll elected every four years.

So we'll have 4 or 5 parties?

 

[TNHarley]

You do realize the courts ruled on a campaign speech, and not the EO, right?

There is no 'Muslim Ban', except in the minds of the conned.

The campaign speech shows intent.

what does that matter?

Because he wanted a Muslim ban, and whatever they call it, they effectively enacted a Muslim ban.

6 countries hold all of the Muslims?

Considering the problems in England, should we add it to the 'Muslim ban'?

How about Germany?

do you understand how silly your comments are?

To a bigot, if he can't ban all Muslims, he can still make a good start with those countries.

It's like the poll tax of old. It prevented many black people from voting, due to their poverty rates. Did it prevent all? No. But it made an impact.

Do you think obama was a bigot when he did the ban? When he made the list Trump used?

 

[TNHarley]

what does the constitution say about education?

Absolutely nothing. It does talk about general welfare.

Which leaves it to the states. Promoting general welfare doesnt mean creating it.

Public education is "welfare"?

Please answer. Do you want it to be privatized, for profit, education?

What? no...
For profit is fine. I support private and public schools.
I said i wanted it reserved to the states..

So the states that are failing their students.......?

This is why i hate the duopoly. They are SO full of shit. But the population just buys their horseshit..
You have to be a COMPLETE MORON to think they give a fuck about you.

Another editorial in my op ed section this morning was saying the duopoly is about to end. That they are destroying themselves/each other and are about to fracture into groups with real ideas, not bumper sticker logos and billions of dollars to get a shiny new Ken doll elected every four years.

So we'll have 4 or 5 parties?

Im ok with that. At least majority control will be a thing of the past

 

[ricechickie]

The campaign speech shows intent.

what does that matter?

Because he wanted a Muslim ban, and whatever they call it, they effectively enacted a Muslim ban.

6 countries hold all of the Muslims?

Considering the problems in England, should we add it to the 'Muslim ban'?

How about Germany?

do you understand how silly your comments are?

To a bigot, if he can't ban all Muslims, he can still make a good start with those countries.

It's like the poll tax of old. It prevented many black people from voting, due to their poverty rates. Did it prevent all? No. But it made an impact.

Do you think obama was a bigot when he did the ban? When he made the list Trump used?

Link?

 

[deanrd]

There used to be a popular bumper sticker, "Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way"
In that scenario, I need to get out of the way. I'd happily be a follower, if there were someone I felt was worthy of following. Maybe there's a silver lining in every storm cloud. I wanted to share this with those of you who feel like me. Things may get better. Maybe some of us need to get involved in one way or other.
As bones says, stay strong.


Kathleen Parker: Trump's unique gift to America

• Jul 18, 2017
  
• BANNER ELK, N.C. — Even the least popular presidents sometimes do great things.

What might Donald Trump’s great thing be? He has unified a divided nation.

He has brought Republicans and Democrats together as only just wars can. He’s brought women, scientists, minorities, teachers, journalists, professors — and no, they’re not all liberal — out of their favorite laptop seats and moved them to march, protest and, most important, run for public office.


The pink-capped Women’s March is familiar to all but the dead. On Earth Day in April, scientists around the world staged rallies to protest Trump’s apparent lack of interest in research-backed facts.

A few prominent conservatives — George Will and Joe Scarborough among them — have left the GOP, while Democrats have offered to take drastic action.

A majority say they would forswear drinking for life if it would mean Trump’s impeachment, according to a story in The Hill. This seems a tad excessive, though given the increased alcohol consumption (anecdotally) since Trump took office, a long-term wagon ride might be just what the doctor would order. Relatedly, if not causatively, Nevada ran out of marijuana products a few days after the state legalized recreational use.

When have so many Americans of so many stripes been so united in a shared mission? And, no, Woodstock doesn’t count.

Other gifts from the president include an increased national interest in politics, civic participation and electoral office. Trump seems to be on the tip of everyone’s tongue, even among those who have never before expressed any interest in politics.

Chris Clark, an artist in this mountain village, echoed the sentiments one hears several times on any given day. “I’m obsessed with the news,” he told me during a recent visit to his gallery.

“All I do is watch TV now,” he laughed. “It’s like watching a train wreck, you can’t look away. It’s hard to go to work, really!”

Meanwhile, countless Republicans and Democrats and independents, the nonpolitical as well as scientists, teachers, and, sure, a freshly emboldened outlier class (Jay Z?) are considering running for public office, a goal previously not on the radar.

A newly formed Political Action Committee — 314 Action — is urging scientists to “Get Elected” and offers help with funding and logistics. Hundreds have signed up. Similarly, Silicon Valley tech magnate Sam Altman — president of Y Combinator, which invests in start-ups such as Dropbox and Airbnb — is offering to fund good candidates for statewide office to “create prosperity through technology, economic fairness and maintaining personal liberty.”

Nationally, a centrist movement is gaining traction under the self-explaining name of “No Labels,” and may yet prove to be a counterforce in the zero-sum sport of current politics. The group organized in 2010 and is co-chaired by former Republican Gov. Jon Huntsman and former Democrat (later Independent) Joe Lieberman.

Today, more than 70 members of Congress from both parties have formed a bipartisan coalition called the “No Labels Problem Solvers,” pledging to work together on legislative initiatives. Earlier this month, the congressional group released its first bipartisan effort — a “Make Government Work!” legislative package aimed at reducing government waste and inefficiency. Coming up in September, No Labels will host an international Ideas Summit to coincide with the United Nations General Assembly session in New York.

Thus, though our national political narrative is that we’re more divided than ever, a dispassionate second look suggests otherwise. We’re not so much divided as stuck. Running in mud. That’s not the swamp draining; it’s the muck of money, greed, self-interest and one-upmanship — Washington’s unique art of the deal.

We don’t have only Trump to thank. The ecosystem of media-generated conflict and America’s penchant for spectator sports has ensured a persistent game of warring factions — a perfect milieu for someone like Trump with his particular talents. He merely strolled to the lectern, called everybody else a loser, and plowed his way to the presidency on a whim and the most golden of promises — to make America great again.

We have work to do. There is hope. A trend seems to be taking shape if momentum can be nourished. What an irony if Trump’s presidency made America great again by inspiring people to get elected whose civilian lives have been circumscribed by the pursuit of knowledge, wisdom and truth, which is not, in fact, relative.

Trump would go down as one of the greatest unifying presidents in history — the sooner the better.


Kathleen Parker’s email address is [email protected].
Kathleen Parker: Trump's unique gift to America

Forget Hillary Clinton. It was the media that actually elected Trump.

Hillary had Bernie Sanders, Donald Trump, the media, the Russians, the GOP and the FBI against her and she still won the popular vote by millions.
Market watch, in May, put the amount of free media for Donald Trump at 3 BILLION. By the end of the election, some estimates were 5 BILLION. Double all the GOP and all the Democratic candidates put together.

Nearly every Trump speech was played from beginning to end. Most of the time any part of a Hillary speech was played, it was the part where she talked about Donald Trump.

Chuck Todd couldn't say her name without also saying "unlikable, untrustworthy and dishonest".

On the other hand, the same media was calling Trump "authentic" and a "master of media" right up until just before the election. They even gave his hotel and Scottish Golf Course free hour long infomercials.

Remember the media swarmed the Clinton Foundation but it was a single reporter who took down the criminal organization, the uncertified and unlicensed Trump Foundation. Thousands of media personnel studying the Clinton Foundation, only one looking into Trump's criminal organization. And that reporter won the Pulitzer Prize for his investigation. Did he win it because he was the ONLY one?

Not only do politicians need to be held accountable, the media also needs to be held accountable.

We know the only reason the GOP is against Obamacare is because it has the name Obama as part of it. People in Kentucky have said they should make a national Kynect (Kentucky's Obamacare) and get rid of Obamacare. How stupid is that?

 

[debbiedowner]

I was hoping to keep this thread from being rancorous; however, that ain't gonna happen, so here:
the op ed I referred to saying the duopoly is on its last legs:
JOE SCARBOROUGH
Trump is killing the Republican Party
It would take far more than a single column to detail Trump’s failures in the months following his bleak inaugural address. But the Republican leaders who have subjugated themselves to the White House’s corrupting influence fell short of Lincoln’s standard long before their favorite reality-TV star brought his gaudy circus act to Washington.

When I left Congress in 2001, I praised my party’s successful efforts to balance the budget for the first time in a generation and keep many of the promises that led to our takeover in 1994. I concluded my last speech on the House floor by foolishly predicting that Republicans would balance budgets and champion a restrained foreign policy for as long as they held power.

I would be proved wrong immediately.

As the new century began, Republicans gained control of the federal government. George W. Bush and the GOP Congress responded by turning a $155 billion surplus into a $1 trillion deficit and doubling the national debt, passing a $7 trillion unfunded entitlement program and promoting a foreign policy so utopian it would have made Woodrow Wilson blush. Voters made Nancy Pelosi speaker of the House in 2006 and Barack Obama president in 2008.

After their well-deserved drubbing, Republicans swore that if voters ever entrusted them with running Washington again, they would prove themselves worthy. Trump’s party was given a second chance this year, but it has spent almost every day since then making the majority of Americans regret it.

The GOP president questioned America’s constitutional system of checks and balances. Republican leaders said nothing. He echoed Stalin and Mao by calling the free press “the enemy of the people.” Republican leaders were silent. And as the commander in chief insulted allies while embracing autocratic thugs, Republicans who spent a decade supporting wars of choice remained quiet. Meanwhile, their budget-busting proposals demonstrate a fiscal recklessness very much in line with the Bush years.

Last week’s Russia revelations show just how shamelessly Republican lawmakers will stand by a longtime Democrat who switched parties after the promotion of a racist theory about Barack Obama gave him standing in Lincoln’s once-proud party. Neither Lincoln, William Buckley nor Ronald Reagan would recognize this movement.

It is a dying party that I can no longer defend.

Pulitzer Prize-winning historian Jon Meacham has long predicted that the Republican and Democrats’ 150-year duopoly will end. The signs seem obvious enough. When my Republican Party took control of Congress in 1994, it was the first time the GOP had won the House in a generation. The two parties have been in a state of turmoil ever since.

In 2004, Republican strategist Karl Rove anticipated a majority that would last a generation; two years later, Pelosi became the most liberal House speaker in history. Obama was swept into power by a supposedly unassailable Democratic coalition. In 2010, the tea party tide rolled in. Obama’s re-election returned the momentum to the Democrats, but Republicans won a historic state-level landslide in 2014. Then last fall, Trump demolished the Republican and Democratic establishments.

Political historians will one day view Trump as a historical anomaly. But the wreckage visited of this man will break the Republican Party into pieces — and lead to the election of independent thinkers no longer tethered to the tired dogmas of the polarized past. When that day mercifully arrives, the two-party duopoly that has strangled American politics for almost two centuries will finally come to an end. And Washington just may begin to work again.


Joe Scarborough, a former Republican congressman from Florida, hosts the MSNBC show “Morning Joe.”
http://bangordailynews.com/2017/07/18/opinion/contributors/trump-is-killing-the-republican-party/

Joe is wrong it's been deystroying itself for sometime, maybe Trump is putting the icing on the cake. But in reality is Trump really a republican?

 

[Auld Phart]

You do realize the courts ruled on a campaign speech, and not the EO, right?

There is no 'Muslim Ban', except in the minds of the conned.

The campaign speech shows intent.

what does that matter?

Because he wanted a Muslim ban, and whatever they call it, they effectively enacted a Muslim ban.

6 countries hold all of the Muslims?

Considering the problems in England, should we add it to the 'Muslim ban'?

How about Germany?

do you understand how silly your comments are?

To a bigot, if he can't ban all Muslims, he can still make a good start with those countries.

It's like the poll tax of old. It prevented many black people from voting, due to their poverty rates. Did it prevent all? No. But it made an impact.

To a bigot, if he can't ban all Muslims, he can still make a good start with those countries.

Right...


EOs have nothing in them about Muslims, but courts put them on hold because of imagined bigotry.