Illegal Aliens Lose Battle In Birth Certificatr Lawsuit Against Texas

[ogibillm]

There is no "birthright" citizenship. The "Original intent" of the 14th amendment was to make slaves and their children citizens. Not illegal aliens.

Considering that at the time the 14th Amendment was written and ratified (1868) there was no need to establish birthright citizenship as a policy. Immigrants to the US during that period were eager to become US citizens, to assimilate and through their naturalization, establish themselves and their children thereafter as legal, legitimate citizens of their chosen nation. Illegal, criminal invaders were certainly not the norm, nor was the effort to spawn on US soil in order to establish a beachhead and an anchor to claim all types of privileges reserved for legal immigrants..

And?

So you think that if circumstances change- you can just ignore the Constitution?

The language of the 14th Amendment is very explicit. You can't just ignore it.

Yes, while explicit, it does not take into account the phenomenal increase in "Americans" born here for no other purpose than collecting public welfare, .

assuming that were true, it would be irrelevant. that doesn't change the language of the 14th amendment, and you can't kick citizens out of the country.

 

[the_human_being]

Federal judge has ruled once again that the House Republican's lawsuit against Obama's misuse of power in Obamacare can go forward. Another win for the taxpayer!!

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

"A federal judge signed an order on Friday that denied a preliminary injunction..

not much to celebrate here. in a few months you will be condemning the courts on this subject

 

[Syriusly]

There is no "birthright" citizenship. The "Original intent" of the 14th amendment was to make slaves and their children citizens. Not illegal aliens.

Considering that at the time the 14th Amendment was written and ratified (1868) there was no need to establish birthright citizenship as a policy. Immigrants to the US during that period were eager to become US citizens, to assimilate and through their naturalization, establish themselves and their children thereafter as legal, legitimate citizens of their chosen nation. Illegal, criminal invaders were certainly not the norm, nor was the effort to spawn on US soil in order to establish a beachhead and an anchor to claim all types of privileges reserved for legal immigrants..

And?

So you think that if circumstances change- you can just ignore the Constitution?

The language of the 14th Amendment is very explicit. You can't just ignore it.

Yes, while explicit, it does not take into account the phenomenal increase in "Americans" born here for no other purpose than collecting public welfare, and of course, we can certainly not let those infant "Americans'" families to want for anything. Send the who pack back to their country of origin. When the "American" reaches majority, commonly 18 years of age in this country, then they can certainly choose to come back...no questions asked, and apply like any other citizen to have their family admitted, as well. For the illegal, law-breaking progenitors of such new "Americans", nothing.

So you think we can just deport Americans because of their parents legal problems?

 

[gallantwarrior]

There is no "birthright" citizenship. The "Original intent" of the 14th amendment was to make slaves and their children citizens. Not illegal aliens.

Considering that at the time the 14th Amendment was written and ratified (1868) there was no need to establish birthright citizenship as a policy. Immigrants to the US during that period were eager to become US citizens, to assimilate and through their naturalization, establish themselves and their children thereafter as legal, legitimate citizens of their chosen nation. Illegal, criminal invaders were certainly not the norm, nor was the effort to spawn on US soil in order to establish a beachhead and an anchor to claim all types of privileges reserved for legal immigrants..

And?

So you think that if circumstances change- you can just ignore the Constitution?

The language of the 14th Amendment is very explicit. You can't just ignore it.

Yes, while explicit, it does not take into account the phenomenal increase in "Americans" born here for no other purpose than collecting public welfare, .

assuming that were true, it would be irrelevant. that doesn't change the language of the 14th amendment, and you can't kick citizens out of the country.

You can kick illegal invaders out, though, and should. If the "citizens" have some other alternative, fine. Otherwise, their criminal parents leave, they either take them or leave them. If they take them, at least they have a choice when they reach 18.

 

[gallantwarrior]

There is no "birthright" citizenship. The "Original intent" of the 14th amendment was to make slaves and their children citizens. Not illegal aliens.

Considering that at the time the 14th Amendment was written and ratified (1868) there was no need to establish birthright citizenship as a policy. Immigrants to the US during that period were eager to become US citizens, to assimilate and through their naturalization, establish themselves and their children thereafter as legal, legitimate citizens of their chosen nation. Illegal, criminal invaders were certainly not the norm, nor was the effort to spawn on US soil in order to establish a beachhead and an anchor to claim all types of privileges reserved for legal immigrants..

And?

So you think that if circumstances change- you can just ignore the Constitution?

The language of the 14th Amendment is very explicit. You can't just ignore it.

Yes, while explicit, it does not take into account the phenomenal increase in "Americans" born here for no other purpose than collecting public welfare, and of course, we can certainly not let those infant "Americans'" families to want for anything. Send the who pack back to their country of origin. When the "American" reaches majority, commonly 18 years of age in this country, then they can certainly choose to come back...no questions asked, and apply like any other citizen to have their family admitted, as well. For the illegal, law-breaking progenitors of such new "Americans", nothing.

So you think we can just deport Americans because of their parents legal problems?

So you think just because someone manages to pop a kid out in our country entitles them to all the rights and privileges of people who have followed the rules? Send them back to the holes they crawled out of, if they take the kids, the kids can come back later. I'm so tire of excusing violation of our laws because someone can fuck, get pregnant, and manages to drop a brat here.

 

[JimBowie1958]

The Supreme Court actually presumes that without question

In INS v. Rios-Pineda a unanimous Court observed:


By that time, respondent wife [an undocumented alien] had given birth to a child, who, born in the United States, was a citizen of this country.

You are so fucking stupid. That thekid was given citizenship does not prove that the SCOTUS has ruled the off spring of illegal aliens have birthright citizenship. States can give citizenship to whoever the hell they choose to, but the minimum is birthright citizenship.

You are a fucking retard, jack ass.

 

[JimBowie1958]

There is no "birthright" citizenship. The "Original intent" of the 14th amendment was to make slaves and their children citizens. Not illegal aliens.

Considering that at the time the 14th Amendment was written and ratified (1868) there was no need to establish birthright citizenship as a policy. Immigrants to the US during that period were eager to become US citizens, to assimilate and through their naturalization, establish themselves and their children thereafter as legal, legitimate citizens of their chosen nation. Illegal, criminal invaders were certainly not the norm, nor was the effort to spawn on US soil in order to establish a beachhead and an anchor to claim all types of privileges reserved for legal immigrants..

And?

So you think that if circumstances change- you can just ignore the Constitution?

The language of the 14th Amendment is very explicit. You can't just ignore it.

Yes, while explicit, it does not take into account the phenomenal increase in "Americans" born here for no other purpose than collecting public welfare, and of course, we can certainly not let those infant "Americans'" families to want for anything. Send the who pack back to their country of origin. When the "American" reaches majority, commonly 18 years of age in this country, then they can certainly choose to come back...no questions asked, and apply like any other citizen to have their family admitted, as well. For the illegal, law-breaking progenitors of such new "Americans", nothing.

So you think we can just deport Americans because of their parents legal problems?

He isnt an American citizen just because he was born here, idiot.

 

[Syriusly]

The Supreme Court actually presumes that without question

In INS v. Rios-Pineda a unanimous Court observed:


By that time, respondent wife [an undocumented alien] had given birth to a child, who, born in the United States, was a citizen of this country.

You are so fucking stupid. That thekid was given citizenship does not prove that the SCOTUS has ruled the off spring of illegal aliens have birthright citizenship. States can give citizenship to whoever the hell they choose to, but the minimum is birthright citizenship.

You are a fucking retard, jack ass.

Ah Jimmie the Foul mouthed cretin gets even more so when his idiocy is shown for what it is.

Meanwhile-the Supreme Court assumes that a child born in the United States to an illegal alien is a citizen- just as the 14th Amendment says.

In INS v. Rios-Pineda a unanimous Court observed:


By that time, respondent wife [an undocumented alien] had given birth to a child, who, born in the United States, was a citizen of this country.

 

[Syriusly]

There is no "birthright" citizenship. The "Original intent" of the 14th amendment was to make slaves and their children citizens. Not illegal aliens.

Considering that at the time the 14th Amendment was written and ratified (1868) there was no need to establish birthright citizenship as a policy. Immigrants to the US during that period were eager to become US citizens, to assimilate and through their naturalization, establish themselves and their children thereafter as legal, legitimate citizens of their chosen nation. Illegal, criminal invaders were certainly not the norm, nor was the effort to spawn on US soil in order to establish a beachhead and an anchor to claim all types of privileges reserved for legal immigrants..

And?

So you think that if circumstances change- you can just ignore the Constitution?

The language of the 14th Amendment is very explicit. You can't just ignore it.

Yes, while explicit, it does not take into account the phenomenal increase in "Americans" born here for no other purpose than collecting public welfare, and of course, we can certainly not let those infant "Americans'" families to want for anything. Send the who pack back to their country of origin. When the "American" reaches majority, commonly 18 years of age in this country, then they can certainly choose to come back...no questions asked, and apply like any other citizen to have their family admitted, as well. For the illegal, law-breaking progenitors of such new "Americans", nothing.

So you think we can just deport Americans because of their parents legal problems?

He isnt an American citizen just because he was born here, idiot.

Well what else makes him an American citizen?

Just as the 14th Amendment says- born here- American citizen.

Except if the hcild is the chiild of diplomats

 

[JimBowie1958]

Ah Jimmie the Foul mouthed cretin gets even more so when his idiocy is shown for what it is.

Meanwhile-the Supreme Court assumes that a child born in the United States to an illegal alien is a citizen- just as the 14th Amendment says.

It wasnt an assumption, idiot, it was a fact due to the way the laws are enforced in that state.

The point is that giving them citizenship is NOT necessary, as they have no birth RIGHT citizenship, you freaking loon.

Why dont you go and take a critical thinking class then come back to post your partisan bullshit. Soros can wait a few weeks cant he, or do you just really have to tweek every day?

 

[ogibillm]

Considering that at the time the 14th Amendment was written and ratified (1868) there was no need to establish birthright citizenship as a policy. Immigrants to the US during that period were eager to become US citizens, to assimilate and through their naturalization, establish themselves and their children thereafter as legal, legitimate citizens of their chosen nation. Illegal, criminal invaders were certainly not the norm, nor was the effort to spawn on US soil in order to establish a beachhead and an anchor to claim all types of privileges reserved for legal immigrants..

And?

So you think that if circumstances change- you can just ignore the Constitution?

The language of the 14th Amendment is very explicit. You can't just ignore it.

Yes, while explicit, it does not take into account the phenomenal increase in "Americans" born here for no other purpose than collecting public welfare, and of course, we can certainly not let those infant "Americans'" families to want for anything. Send the who pack back to their country of origin. When the "American" reaches majority, commonly 18 years of age in this country, then they can certainly choose to come back...no questions asked, and apply like any other citizen to have their family admitted, as well. For the illegal, law-breaking progenitors of such new "Americans", nothing.

So you think we can just deport Americans because of their parents legal problems?

He isnt an American citizen just because he was born here, idiot.

Well what else makes him an American citizen?

Just as the 14th Amendment says- born here- American citizen.

Except if the hcild is the chiild of diplomats

or an invading army. but that's splitting hairs.

 

[ogibillm]

Ah Jimmie the Foul mouthed cretin gets even more so when his idiocy is shown for what it is.

Meanwhile-the Supreme Court assumes that a child born in the United States to an illegal alien is a citizen- just as the 14th Amendment says.

It wasnt an assumption, idiot, it was a fact due to the way the laws are enforced in that state.

The point is that giving them citizenship is NOT necessary, as they have no birth RIGHT citizenship, you freaking loon.

Why dont you go and take a critical thinking class then come back to post your partisan bullshit. Soros can wait a few weeks cant he, or do you just really have to tweek every day?

the 14th amendment disagrees.
should you take a reading comprehension class?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Well what else makes him an American citizen?

The state that he was born in says, dude.

Just as the 14th Amendment says- born here- American citizen.

Except if the hcild is the chiild of diplomats

That is one exception and there are also other according to Wong Kim Ark.

 

[JimBowie1958]

or an invading army. but that's splitting hairs.

It is not splitting hairs. It is an example that there is not an unrestric ted birthright for those born here.

Wow, I am getting the feeling that you guys are starting to figure this thing out. Maybe there is hope for libtards yet.


NNNNAAAAAHHHHHHwhat the hell am I thinking?

 

[JimBowie1958]

the 14th amendment disagrees.
should you take a reading comprehension class?

You can keep saying that all you want but the 14th amendment says nothing of the sort, you stupid liar.

 

[Syriusly]

There is no "birthright" citizenship. The "Original intent" of the 14th amendment was to make slaves and their children citizens. Not illegal aliens.

Considering that at the time the 14th Amendment was written and ratified (1868) there was no need to establish birthright citizenship as a policy. Immigrants to the US during that period were eager to become US citizens, to assimilate and through their naturalization, establish themselves and their children thereafter as legal, legitimate citizens of their chosen nation. Illegal, criminal invaders were certainly not the norm, nor was the effort to spawn on US soil in order to establish a beachhead and an anchor to claim all types of privileges reserved for legal immigrants..

And?

So you think that if circumstances change- you can just ignore the Constitution?

The language of the 14th Amendment is very explicit. You can't just ignore it.

Yes, while explicit, it does not take into account the phenomenal increase in "Americans" born here for no other purpose than collecting public welfare, and of course, we can certainly not let those infant "Americans'" families to want for anything. Send the who pack back to their country of origin. When the "American" reaches majority, commonly 18 years of age in this country, then they can certainly choose to come back...no questions asked, and apply like any other citizen to have their family admitted, as well. For the illegal, law-breaking progenitors of such new "Americans", nothing.

So you think we can just deport Americans because of their parents legal problems?

So you think just because someone manages to pop a kid out in our country entitles them to all the rights and privileges of people who have followed the rules? Send them back to the holes they crawled out of, if they take the kids, the kids can come back later. I'm so tire of excusing violation of our laws because someone can fuck, get pregnant, and manages to drop a brat here.

No- why do you think that?

You can't deport American citizens.

You can deport their parents.

The parents can either take their American citizen child with them- or they can find someone to take care of their child here in the U.S.

But you can't ignore the Constitution- or the civil rights of an American citizen born to parents who are hear illegally.

 

[Syriusly]

or an invading army. but that's splitting hairs.

It is not splitting hairs. It is an example that there is not an unrestric ted birthright for those born here.

Wow, I am getting the feeling that you guys are starting to figure this thing out. Maybe there is hope for libtards yet.


NNNNAAAAAHHHHHHwhat the hell am I thinking?

Well invading armies is mentioned right in Wong Kim Ark as one of the exclusions- along with children of diplomats.

So not splitting hairs- just mentioning an irrelevant but correct exclusion.

 

[ogibillm]

or an invading army. but that's splitting hairs.

It is not splitting hairs. It is an example that there is not an unrestric ted birthright for those born here.

Wow, I am getting the feeling that you guys are starting to figure this thing out. Maybe there is hope for libtards yet.


NNNNAAAAAHHHHHHwhat the hell am I thinking?

i seriously doubt you're capable of thinking.
nobody has claimed that those born here to parents acting as official representatives of another nation are citizens. it's just that those exceptions are so rare as to be inconsequential to the general discussion.

 

[JimBowie1958]

You can't deport American citizens..

If they are minors and the parents are not citizens they can be deported along with their parents, dude.