In America is it easier for you if you are white?

[Asclepias]

Like with police or authorities, or in clubs, or to get a job, in school, in hospital etc. Or this is wrong?

No, but it's not as simple as that. It's harder for poor blacks because they grow up with self inflicted handicaps.

Blacks who grow up in middle and upper class families have no trouble at all and likely have advantages that whites will never have.

If youre born poor your handicaps are not self inflicted. Your condition came about as a result of systemic racism. You were born into it.

My children are I guess upper middle class and they still see racism. However, they learned from me to never let whites hold them back.

Not if you are born poor but your life doesn't have to end there. You have a lot of choices beginning as you grow up and if you choose not to take advantage then that is self inflicted.

Racism did not cause people to be poor. That is the lie you tell yourselves to keep from having to accept blame.

And for the 19th time I never mentioned race or racism. I never said that they would not experience it, I myself experience racism on an almost daily basis. Didn't stop me.

Choices are made based on knowledge or blind luck. If you dont have the knowledge you have to depend on luck.

Racism caused most Blacks to be poor. There is too much evidence whites stacked the deck against Blacks financially, academically, and systematically for you to even mount a credible defense of that ridiculous statement.

If youre white you didnt experience racism. At most you experienced someone being a racist.

Racism is a system not a person.

 

[Asclepias]

Like with police or authorities, or in clubs, or to get a job, in school, in hospital etc. Or this is wrong?

No, but it's not as simple as that. It's harder for poor blacks because they grow up with self inflicted handicaps.

Blacks who grow up in middle and upper class families have no trouble at all and likely have advantages that whites will never have.

Poverty is usually not self inflicted... people don't choose to be born poor and in today's day and age it's nearly impossible to pull yourself out of poverty.

Poverty is most often self inflicted. When there are programs available to help and you don't participate because your culture prohibits it, or you get pregnant at age 15 and have 3 or 4 kids before you are even old enough to drink.

What culture prohibits you from joining a program? I grew up in the Black culture and anytime a program was known there were Blacks that got into it.

Really?

The same culture that shames other blacks for getting educated and trying to be like whitey.

I got educated but i never tried to be like whitey. No one shamed me for getting educated. Now you will get teased for acting white but that has nothing to do with education. Please show me this culture you claim exists.

 

[Aries]

Its amazing that white people like him actually believe they know what Black people face.

I know what programs are available, I know black people who have made it out of poverty, I also know that having 3-4 kids before you are 21 years old is a sure fire way to stay poor. I don't have to be black to know those facts.

And having children young is not restricted to African Americans lol

Never said it was, and that is irrelevant. How thick is that skull of yours anyway?

Not nearly as thick as your racial bias.

The race card, refuge of choice for the lazy mind.

So do you deny your racism or come by it honestly?

 

[impuretrash]

Like with police or authorities, or in clubs, or to get a job, in school, in hospital etc. Or this is wrong?

No, but it's not as simple as that. It's harder for poor blacks because they grow up with self inflicted handicaps.

Blacks who grow up in middle and upper class families have no trouble at all and likely have advantages that whites will never have.

Wealthy blacks never face racism?
Doubtful.
I'm sure they have it much easier but I'm sure they are not exempt from American society lol. How ridiculous you are.

Its amazing that white people like him actually believe they know what Black people face.

I know what programs are available, I know black people who have made it out of poverty, I also know that having 3-4 kids before you are 21 years old is a sure fire way to stay poor. I don't have to be black to know those facts.

And having children young is not restricted to African Americans lol
Your deep racism oozes through every statement

I spent a few minutes compiling a list of recent mainstream news articles that condemn white people to post in this thread but then I remembered that it's a waste of time. You antiwhite bigots aren't interested. No amount of evidence that white people, especially men are being targeted by the political and media elite will ever knock you off your soapbox. Us white folks need to redirect our energies away from trying to debate the fanatical left towards building networks with fellow whites. In other words, redpill the normies.

 

[Aries]

No, but it's not as simple as that. It's harder for poor blacks because they grow up with self inflicted handicaps.

Blacks who grow up in middle and upper class families have no trouble at all and likely have advantages that whites will never have.

Wealthy blacks never face racism?
Doubtful.
I'm sure they have it much easier but I'm sure they are not exempt from American society lol. How ridiculous you are.

Its amazing that white people like him actually believe they know what Black people face.

I know what programs are available, I know black people who have made it out of poverty, I also know that having 3-4 kids before you are 21 years old is a sure fire way to stay poor. I don't have to be black to know those facts.

And having children young is not restricted to African Americans lol
Your deep racism oozes through every statement

I spent a few minutes compiling a list of recent mainstream news articles that condemn white people to post in this thread but then I remembered that it's a waste of time. You antiwhite bigots aren't interested. No amount of evidence that white people, especially men are being targeted by the political and media elite will ever knock you off your soapbox. Us white folks need to redirect our energies away from trying to debate the fanatical left towards building networks with fellow whites. In other words, redpill the normies.

Yes white men have it so bad in this country

 

[Aries]

No, but it's not as simple as that. It's harder for poor blacks because they grow up with self inflicted handicaps.

Blacks who grow up in middle and upper class families have no trouble at all and likely have advantages that whites will never have.

Poverty is usually not self inflicted... people don't choose to be born poor and in today's day and age it's nearly impossible to pull yourself out of poverty.

Poverty is most often self inflicted. When there are programs available to help and you don't participate because your culture prohibits it, or you get pregnant at age 15 and have 3 or 4 kids before you are even old enough to drink.

What culture prohibits you from joining a program? I grew up in the Black culture and anytime a program was known there were Blacks that got into it.

Really?

The same culture that shames other blacks for getting educated and trying to be like whitey.

I got educated but i never tried to be like whitey. No one shamed me for getting educated. Now you will get teased for acting white but that has nothing to do with education. Please show me this culture you claim exists.

He can not separate "gang culture" from "black culture" because he was raised to think it is one in the same.

 

[impuretrash]

Yes white men have it so bad in this country

 

[Asclepias]

Poverty is usually not self inflicted... people don't choose to be born poor and in today's day and age it's nearly impossible to pull yourself out of poverty.

Poverty is most often self inflicted. When there are programs available to help and you don't participate because your culture prohibits it, or you get pregnant at age 15 and have 3 or 4 kids before you are even old enough to drink.

What culture prohibits you from joining a program? I grew up in the Black culture and anytime a program was known there were Blacks that got into it.

Really?

The same culture that shames other blacks for getting educated and trying to be like whitey.

I got educated but i never tried to be like whitey. No one shamed me for getting educated. Now you will get teased for acting white but that has nothing to do with education. Please show me this culture you claim exists.

He can not separate "gang culture" from "black culture" because he was raised to think it is one in the same.

Thats weird because the gang culture was started by whites in this country.

 

[PredFan]

Like with police or authorities, or in clubs, or to get a job, in school, in hospital etc. Or this is wrong?

No, but it's not as simple as that. It's harder for poor blacks because they grow up with self inflicted handicaps.

Blacks who grow up in middle and upper class families have no trouble at all and likely have advantages that whites will never have.

If youre born poor your handicaps are not self inflicted. Your condition came about as a result of systemic racism. You were born into it.

My children are I guess upper middle class and they still see racism. However, they learned from me to never let whites hold them back.

Not if you are born poor but your life doesn't have to end there. You have a lot of choices beginning as you grow up and if you choose not to take advantage then that is self inflicted.

Racism did not cause people to be poor. That is the lie you tell yourselves to keep from having to accept blame.

And for the 19th time I never mentioned race or racism. I never said that they would not experience it, I myself experience racism on an almost daily basis. Didn't stop me.

Choices are made based on knowledge or blind luck. If you dont have the knowledge you have to depend on luck.

Racism caused most Blacks to be poor. There is too much evidence whites stacked the deck against Blacks financially, academically, and systematically for you to even mount a credible defense of that ridiculous statement.

If youre white you didnt experience racism. At most you experienced someone being a racist.

Racism is a system not a person.

Again, that is the lie you tell yourself to avoid responsibility for your own actions.

 

[PredFan]

No, but it's not as simple as that. It's harder for poor blacks because they grow up with self inflicted handicaps.

Blacks who grow up in middle and upper class families have no trouble at all and likely have advantages that whites will never have.

Poverty is usually not self inflicted... people don't choose to be born poor and in today's day and age it's nearly impossible to pull yourself out of poverty.

Poverty is most often self inflicted. When there are programs available to help and you don't participate because your culture prohibits it, or you get pregnant at age 15 and have 3 or 4 kids before you are even old enough to drink.

What culture prohibits you from joining a program? I grew up in the Black culture and anytime a program was known there were Blacks that got into it.

Really?

The same culture that shames other blacks for getting educated and trying to be like whitey.

I got educated but i never tried to be like whitey. No one shamed me for getting educated. Now you will get teased for acting white but that has nothing to do with education. Please show me this culture you claim exists.

Go look in the ghettos.

 

[impuretrash]

Like with police or authorities, or in clubs, or to get a job, in school, in hospital etc. Or this is wrong?

No, but it's not as simple as that. It's harder for poor blacks because they grow up with self inflicted handicaps.

Blacks who grow up in middle and upper class families have no trouble at all and likely have advantages that whites will never have.

If youre born poor your handicaps are not self inflicted. Your condition came about as a result of systemic racism. You were born into it.

My children are I guess upper middle class and they still see racism. However, they learned from me to never let whites hold them back.

Not if you are born poor but your life doesn't have to end there. You have a lot of choices beginning as you grow up and if you choose not to take advantage then that is self inflicted.

Racism did not cause people to be poor. That is the lie you tell yourselves to keep from having to accept blame.

And for the 19th time I never mentioned race or racism. I never said that they would not experience it, I myself experience racism on an almost daily basis. Didn't stop me.

Choices are made based on knowledge or blind luck. If you dont have the knowledge you have to depend on luck.

Racism caused most Blacks to be poor. There is too much evidence whites stacked the deck against Blacks financially, academically, and systematically for you to even mount a credible defense of that ridiculous statement.

If youre white you didnt experience racism. At most you experienced someone being a racist.

Racism is a system not a person.

Again, that is the lie you tell yourself to avoid responsibility for your own actions.

 

[PredFan]

I know what programs are available, I know black people who have made it out of poverty, I also know that having 3-4 kids before you are 21 years old is a sure fire way to stay poor. I don't have to be black to know those facts.

And having children young is not restricted to African Americans lol

Never said it was, and that is irrelevant. How thick is that skull of yours anyway?

Not nearly as thick as your racial bias.

The race card, refuge of choice for the lazy mind.

So do you deny your racism or come by it honestly?

No racism here.

 

[PredFan]

Poverty is usually not self inflicted... people don't choose to be born poor and in today's day and age it's nearly impossible to pull yourself out of poverty.

Poverty is most often self inflicted. When there are programs available to help and you don't participate because your culture prohibits it, or you get pregnant at age 15 and have 3 or 4 kids before you are even old enough to drink.

What culture prohibits you from joining a program? I grew up in the Black culture and anytime a program was known there were Blacks that got into it.

Really?

The same culture that shames other blacks for getting educated and trying to be like whitey.

I got educated but i never tried to be like whitey. No one shamed me for getting educated. Now you will get teased for acting white but that has nothing to do with education. Please show me this culture you claim exists.

He can not separate "gang culture" from "black culture" because he was raised to think it is one in the same.

Typical moronic left wing nonsense. You assume you know me and what I think and you lie about me to fit what you want to believe. You are weak minded, a tool, and part of what's wrong with race relations in this country.

 

[PredFan]

What is the difference between these three men?

Personal choices, nothing more.

 

[OldLady]

Current members of the United States Senate - Wikipedia
Pretty hard to deny that white folks still run the country, though. Pics of the 100 members of the senate. Scroll down through their pics.
I saw one black guy and one asian woman.
There are quite a few females now (YAY!) but they're all white, too.
Whites still hold the power in the grand scheme of things.

You think the Senate is better depending on what color/gender the senators are?

I think who is put forward as a leader and who we vote for is an indication of who the majority of us consider to be "leaders." The rule makers. The ones who are in charge.
I think more diversity would be helpful. Minorities bring a different perspective to policy making that a bunch of white guys might not have thought of. Of course, having more women as senators is awesome because women as a rule have a lot of sense.

Minorities bring a different perspective? Are you saying it is OK, then, to make assumptions about people's views based on their race?

You are trying to make it impossible to have a discussion about this by posing questions that do nothing but shut down other people's views.

Another way to look at that is that I exposed a flaw in your presuppositions. Which is a great benefit to you. As you know, the argument that "diversity" is good because it "brings different perspectives" is everywhere. It governs corporate America, the government, academia, and so much else. Not only is it just plain wrong (making it a bad predicate for public policy), but it is exceedingly dangerous. So, of course, I am going to object when I see it on this board. If a question feels like it "shuts down debate" that just means you don't have an answer for it, to illuminate which I posed the question in the first place.

Why is it just plain wrong?

 

[Aries]

Poverty is most often self inflicted. When there are programs available to help and you don't participate because your culture prohibits it, or you get pregnant at age 15 and have 3 or 4 kids before you are even old enough to drink.

What culture prohibits you from joining a program? I grew up in the Black culture and anytime a program was known there were Blacks that got into it.

Really?

The same culture that shames other blacks for getting educated and trying to be like whitey.

I got educated but i never tried to be like whitey. No one shamed me for getting educated. Now you will get teased for acting white but that has nothing to do with education. Please show me this culture you claim exists.

He can not separate "gang culture" from "black culture" because he was raised to think it is one in the same.

Typical moronic left wing nonsense. You assume you know me and what I think and you lie about me to fit what you want to believe. You are weak minded, a tool, and part of what's wrong with race relations in this country.

I'm just going off your generalizations of African Americans.
Poor, stupid, gang members that have 10 kids by 18.
If you're not a racist stop talking like one!!!

At least puretrash comes by it honestly.

 

[impuretrash]

Why is it just plain wrong?

 

[Aries]

What is the difference between these three men?
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Personal choices, nothing more.

Nothing more? You know that how?

I would assume there are tons of differences, like there are between any humans.

 

[Aries]

Why is it just plain wrong?

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Ignorant.

 

[impuretrash]

I would assume there are tons of differences, like there are between any humans.

OMG DON'T YOU BELIEVE IN EQUALITY?! YOU BIGOT! YOU RACIST! YOU NAZI!