in new pro-Liz ad, Dick Cheney says in our nation's history there has never been an individual that's been a greater threat to our republic than Trump

It confirmed that Trump planned for a mob to protest the capital and push for the overthrow of the election. Once things got violent Trump did not think it went too far he waited and watched which tells me he hoped that they would succeed and wasn’t about to try to stop them. That’s borderline criminal and absolutely disqualifying from future office in my eyes.
It's not his job to stop anyone from protesting, just as it was not any Democrat's job to stop the protesting in 2022 that you supported. In fact, Trump said peaceful. Democrats encouraged the violence of 2020.
 
My hope of hopes is Biden runs for a second term. However, I still believe he isn't gonna finish this one.
If he even survives this one. He reminds me of nothing more than the reanimated Vorta on the episode of DS9 that featured Iggy Pop. Wish I could find a video of it.
 
It's not his job to stop anyone from protesting, just as it was not any Democrat's job to stop the protesting in 2022 that you supported. In fact, Trump said peaceful. Democrats encouraged the violence of 2020.
Its fine if you want to see it that way. I dont care if he said “peaceful” Trump always uses little qualifiers like that to hedge and hide behind. Reality is what it was. He had the power to try and communicate with the mob as they got violent and he refused. He watched on Tv and waited because he wanted them to block the vote. He wanted to keep power. You can say that wasn’t his job to try and stop them… I say it was his moral responsibility and duty as POTUS. He failed miserably. Disgraceful actions from somebody who should never hold power again.
 
Democrats Encouraging Violence?
Jun 15, 2022 | By AMAC, Robert B. Charles39
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Democrats

Hypocrisy, irony, unabashed contradictory behavior now defines modern politics. Call it duplicity, disregard for truth, honesty, consistency. Sometimes it becomes too much. As Democrats play at show hearings around riots on January 6, 2021, they now boldly push pro-abortion violence. That must stop.
Bad enough, during 2020 there were race riots in 200 cities, encouraged by Democrat politicians. These ended in vast personal and property damage, the death of innocents – including police officers, weak prosecution, few convictions, and leading Democrats – including now-VP Harris – helping bail out violent offenders.
Downstream effects of ignoring violence are always bad. Violence in the past three years has spiked, with effects almost incalculable, partial assessments rising to billions in property damage (often in minority neighborhoods, Atlanta to Chicago, Detroit to Seattle, New York to Portland), hemorrhaging of public trust, rise of public fear, a shaken belief in public safety, new concerns for life, limb, and liberty. Only two in ten Americans trust the government to do what is right in 2022.
Democrats pushed police defunding in the name of social justice, reverse racism (later codified in CRT), shadowy groups espousing Marxism, neo-socialism, communist, anarchist, and social reengineering credos. The effect was to demoralize police nationwide, reduce response times, recruiting, and retention.
At the same time, violence against police officers rose – exponentially. By 2021, with Biden and Democrats running the federal government, police ambushes hit records in 2022. Police found themselves fighting for their lives, less well equipped or supported, suicides spiking.
Many outspoken Democrats, inconceivably, did not care. They continue to block Republican police reform efforts, intended to reduce distrust, improve respect, properly fund the police. They have continued to push jingoistic anti-police rhetoric, and they have strived for racial polarization.
Ironically, record numbers of Blacks, Hispanics, and Asians seem to be leaving the Democrats, instead speaking out as parents, citizens, and defenders of free speech, worship, and gun rights. Record numbers of minorities – and women – are buying firearms, signaling disenchantment with Democrats.
But the big Democrat push for violence that boggles a traditional constitutionalist’s mind is happening right now, this month, this week, in recent days. Leading Democrats are pushing violence – seeking to inflame passions, invite anger, and place the idea that we are a non-violent republic, to the side. Some call for a “Summer of Rage,” others for a “revolution” in the streets.
Why? The claim is that violence is somehow now permissible – because the Supreme Court is returning abortion to the states, and likely to restore original meaning to the 2nd Amendment.
Rather than respecting High Court decisions, leading Democrats in Congress and White House are doing the reverse, the unthinkable, stirring violence. Their words are hard to misunderstand. They push “pay” back for justices who rule against Democrats, “righteous anger,” and “revolution,” are silent about violence, have held up a bill to better protect justices, even when passion-pushing nearly killed one.
The question must be asked – do they want all this? If not, why are they not universally speaking out against violence? Do they want more street violence? Are they inviting overreaction? Do they nurse the idea that, while radical and unfortunate, a dead justice would potentially delay reversal or Roe? Do they see some political advantage, national distraction from Biden’s disgraced leadership, in violence?
These questions are, in one sense, absurd – How can any national leader wish for violence in a society premised on rule of law. To encourage the breakdown of civil order, in any degree, is to start a process hard to stop, and to win a pyrrhic victory at best, when the civil order itself disintegrates.
Having said this, evidence continues to mount – from 2020, 2021, through mid-2022 – that some in the Democrat Party, particularly those beholden to or seeking favor from the far left, are either indifferent to the effect their reckless words can have on the civil order or intend to trigger violence.
Let us be clear. No one who lived through the 1960s, when America saw the death of a president, death of a presidential candidate and former Attorney General, death of an iconic civil rights leader, loss of billions in physical property, productivity, educational quality, and public trust – could want that again.
Only those utterly unaware of what they are doing, or wishing the worst for this country, could press the cause of violence in the streets for political gain. Not only is that approach anathema to our Constitution, and federal statues, it is the bold promotion of public fear and personal insecurity.
So, what should every public leader do right now – to dispel that idea that violence is an answer to anything, as we await Supreme Court decisions, a fraught election cycle, fight inflation, and watch the world in tumult? They should strongly advocate AGAINST street violence, strongly encourage public restraint, support for police, the Supreme Court, civil dialogue, rule of law, and their fellow citizens.
Having watched societies become unstable around the world, when serving at an Assistant Secretary of State and in other capacities, this much is clear: More societies collapse, become unmanageable, go from order to chaos, spiral downward … from violence and public corruption, or from ends justifying means, than any other cause. Let us not be one. Democrats should wake up, not encourage violence.
 
I'm glad you are unaware of your own transparency.
I’m very aware of my own opinions. The fact that you think you know better than I about what I’m thinking just shows how much of an idiot you are. It’s an indefensible position you put yourself in. You lose. But I’ll still give you a trophy.
 
Its fine if you want to see it that way. I dont care if he said “peaceful” Trump always uses little qualifiers like that to hedge and hide behind. Reality is what it was. He had the power to try and communicate with the mob as they got violent and he refused. He watched on Tv and waited because he wanted them to block the vote. He wanted to keep power. You can say that wasn’t his job to try and stop them… I say it was his moral responsibility and duty as POTUS. He failed miserably. Disgraceful actions from somebody who should never hold power again.
Yet, you supported this....

"Democrats Encouraging Violence?
Jun 15, 2022 | By AMAC, Robert B. Charles39
Share
Democrats

Hypocrisy, irony, unabashed contradictory behavior now defines modern politics. Call it duplicity, disregard for truth, honesty, consistency. Sometimes it becomes too much. As Democrats play at show hearings around riots on January 6, 2021, they now boldly push pro-abortion violence. That must stop.
Bad enough, during 2020 there were race riots in 200 cities, encouraged by Democrat politicians. These ended in vast personal and property damage, the death of innocents – including police officers, weak prosecution, few convictions, and leading Democrats – including now-VP Harris – helping bail out violent offenders.
Downstream effects of ignoring violence are always bad. Violence in the past three years has spiked, with effects almost incalculable, partial assessments rising to billions in property damage (often in minority neighborhoods, Atlanta to Chicago, Detroit to Seattle, New York to Portland), hemorrhaging of public trust, rise of public fear, a shaken belief in public safety, new concerns for life, limb, and liberty. Only two in ten Americans trust the government to do what is right in 2022.
Democrats pushed police defunding in the name of social justice, reverse racism (later codified in CRT), shadowy groups espousing Marxism, neo-socialism, communist, anarchist, and social reengineering credos. The effect was to demoralize police nationwide, reduce response times, recruiting, and retention.
At the same time, violence against police officers rose – exponentially. By 2021, with Biden and Democrats running the federal government, police ambushes hit records in 2022. Police found themselves fighting for their lives, less well equipped or supported, suicides spiking.
Many outspoken Democrats, inconceivably, did not care. They continue to block Republican police reform efforts, intended to reduce distrust, improve respect, properly fund the police. They have continued to push jingoistic anti-police rhetoric, and they have strived for racial polarization.
Ironically, record numbers of Blacks, Hispanics, and Asians seem to be leaving the Democrats, instead speaking out as parents, citizens, and defenders of free speech, worship, and gun rights. Record numbers of minorities – and women – are buying firearms, signaling disenchantment with Democrats.
But the big Democrat push for violence that boggles a traditional constitutionalist’s mind is happening right now, this month, this week, in recent days. Leading Democrats are pushing violence – seeking to inflame passions, invite anger, and place the idea that we are a non-violent republic, to the side. Some call for a “Summer of Rage,” others for a “revolution” in the streets.
Why? The claim is that violence is somehow now permissible – because the Supreme Court is returning abortion to the states, and likely to restore original meaning to the 2nd Amendment.
Rather than respecting High Court decisions, leading Democrats in Congress and White House are doing the reverse, the unthinkable, stirring violence. Their words are hard to misunderstand. They push “pay” back for justices who rule against Democrats, “righteous anger,” and “revolution,” are silent about violence, have held up a bill to better protect justices, even when passion-pushing nearly killed one.
The question must be asked – do they want all this? If not, why are they not universally speaking out against violence? Do they want more street violence? Are they inviting overreaction? Do they nurse the idea that, while radical and unfortunate, a dead justice would potentially delay reversal or Roe? Do they see some political advantage, national distraction from Biden’s disgraced leadership, in violence?
These questions are, in one sense, absurd – How can any national leader wish for violence in a society premised on rule of law. To encourage the breakdown of civil order, in any degree, is to start a process hard to stop, and to win a pyrrhic victory at best, when the civil order itself disintegrates.
Having said this, evidence continues to mount – from 2020, 2021, through mid-2022 – that some in the Democrat Party, particularly those beholden to or seeking favor from the far left, are either indifferent to the effect their reckless words can have on the civil order or intend to trigger violence.
Let us be clear. No one who lived through the 1960s, when America saw the death of a president, death of a presidential candidate and former Attorney General, death of an iconic civil rights leader, loss of billions in physical property, productivity, educational quality, and public trust – could want that again.
Only those utterly unaware of what they are doing, or wishing the worst for this country, could press the cause of violence in the streets for political gain. Not only is that approach anathema to our Constitution, and federal statues, it is the bold promotion of public fear and personal insecurity.
So, what should every public leader do right now – to dispel that idea that violence is an answer to anything, as we await Supreme Court decisions, a fraught election cycle, fight inflation, and watch the world in tumult? They should strongly advocate AGAINST street violence, strongly encourage public restraint, support for police, the Supreme Court, civil dialogue, rule of law, and their fellow citizens.
Having watched societies become unstable around the world, when serving at an Assistant Secretary of State and in other capacities, this much is clear: More societies collapse, become unmanageable, go from order to chaos, spiral downward … from violence and public corruption, or from ends justifying means, than any other cause. Let us not be one. Democrats should wake up, not encourage violence."

Hypocrisy to the maximum.
 
Dick Cheney is a patriot. Donald Trump is not. i still think Liz will get blown out on primary day though lol...maybe a presidential run in 2024?



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The Republican Senate Intelligence Committee reaffirmed its support for the U.S. intelligence community’s conclusion that the Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election with the goal of putting Donald Trump in the Oval Office.

 
Yet, you supported this....

"Democrats Encouraging Violence?
Jun 15, 2022 | By AMAC, Robert B. Charles39
Share
Democrats

Hypocrisy, irony, unabashed contradictory behavior now defines modern politics. Call it duplicity, disregard for truth, honesty, consistency. Sometimes it becomes too much. As Democrats play at show hearings around riots on January 6, 2021, they now boldly push pro-abortion violence. That must stop.
Bad enough, during 2020 there were race riots in 200 cities, encouraged by Democrat politicians. These ended in vast personal and property damage, the death of innocents – including police officers, weak prosecution, few convictions, and leading Democrats – including now-VP Harris – helping bail out violent offenders.
Downstream effects of ignoring violence are always bad. Violence in the past three years has spiked, with effects almost incalculable, partial assessments rising to billions in property damage (often in minority neighborhoods, Atlanta to Chicago, Detroit to Seattle, New York to Portland), hemorrhaging of public trust, rise of public fear, a shaken belief in public safety, new concerns for life, limb, and liberty. Only two in ten Americans trust the government to do what is right in 2022.
Democrats pushed police defunding in the name of social justice, reverse racism (later codified in CRT), shadowy groups espousing Marxism, neo-socialism, communist, anarchist, and social reengineering credos. The effect was to demoralize police nationwide, reduce response times, recruiting, and retention.
At the same time, violence against police officers rose – exponentially. By 2021, with Biden and Democrats running the federal government, police ambushes hit records in 2022. Police found themselves fighting for their lives, less well equipped or supported, suicides spiking.
Many outspoken Democrats, inconceivably, did not care. They continue to block Republican police reform efforts, intended to reduce distrust, improve respect, properly fund the police. They have continued to push jingoistic anti-police rhetoric, and they have strived for racial polarization.
Ironically, record numbers of Blacks, Hispanics, and Asians seem to be leaving the Democrats, instead speaking out as parents, citizens, and defenders of free speech, worship, and gun rights. Record numbers of minorities – and women – are buying firearms, signaling disenchantment with Democrats.
But the big Democrat push for violence that boggles a traditional constitutionalist’s mind is happening right now, this month, this week, in recent days. Leading Democrats are pushing violence – seeking to inflame passions, invite anger, and place the idea that we are a non-violent republic, to the side. Some call for a “Summer of Rage,” others for a “revolution” in the streets.
Why? The claim is that violence is somehow now permissible – because the Supreme Court is returning abortion to the states, and likely to restore original meaning to the 2nd Amendment.
Rather than respecting High Court decisions, leading Democrats in Congress and White House are doing the reverse, the unthinkable, stirring violence. Their words are hard to misunderstand. They push “pay” back for justices who rule against Democrats, “righteous anger,” and “revolution,” are silent about violence, have held up a bill to better protect justices, even when passion-pushing nearly killed one.
The question must be asked – do they want all this? If not, why are they not universally speaking out against violence? Do they want more street violence? Are they inviting overreaction? Do they nurse the idea that, while radical and unfortunate, a dead justice would potentially delay reversal or Roe? Do they see some political advantage, national distraction from Biden’s disgraced leadership, in violence?
These questions are, in one sense, absurd – How can any national leader wish for violence in a society premised on rule of law. To encourage the breakdown of civil order, in any degree, is to start a process hard to stop, and to win a pyrrhic victory at best, when the civil order itself disintegrates.
Having said this, evidence continues to mount – from 2020, 2021, through mid-2022 – that some in the Democrat Party, particularly those beholden to or seeking favor from the far left, are either indifferent to the effect their reckless words can have on the civil order or intend to trigger violence.
Let us be clear. No one who lived through the 1960s, when America saw the death of a president, death of a presidential candidate and former Attorney General, death of an iconic civil rights leader, loss of billions in physical property, productivity, educational quality, and public trust – could want that again.
Only those utterly unaware of what they are doing, or wishing the worst for this country, could press the cause of violence in the streets for political gain. Not only is that approach anathema to our Constitution, and federal statues, it is the bold promotion of public fear and personal insecurity.
So, what should every public leader do right now – to dispel that idea that violence is an answer to anything, as we await Supreme Court decisions, a fraught election cycle, fight inflation, and watch the world in tumult? They should strongly advocate AGAINST street violence, strongly encourage public restraint, support for police, the Supreme Court, civil dialogue, rule of law, and their fellow citizens.
Having watched societies become unstable around the world, when serving at an Assistant Secretary of State and in other capacities, this much is clear: More societies collapse, become unmanageable, go from order to chaos, spiral downward … from violence and public corruption, or from ends justifying means, than any other cause. Let us not be one. Democrats should wake up, not encourage violence."

Hypocrisy to the maximum.
I supported that?! Can you show what I said to make you think that?
 
Ok, so you're saying that you didn't support the protests of 2020 that Democrats supported. Why didn't you support them?
Are we talking about protests or fire riots? Because one I support as it’s a constitutional right… the other is criminal activity that should be punished
 
I’m very aware of my own opinions. The fact that you think you know better than I about what I’m thinking just shows how much of an idiot you are. It’s an indefensible position you put yourself in. You lose. But I’ll still give you a trophy.
Is that REALLY the best insults you've got in your arsenal? Pretty amateur, if you ask me.

Gimme the good stuff.
 
Is that REALLY the best insults you've got in your arsenal? Pretty amateur, if you ask me.

Gimme the good stuff.
I’m not going for insults. I find it more fullfilling just to school you in good old fashion debate and call out your lies. You make that easy. Empty insults don’t really mean anything to anybody. Waste of time.
 
Are we talking about protests or fire riots? Because one I support as it’s a constitutional right… the other is criminal activity that should be punished
Democrat leaders never distinguished the difference. The current VP bailed lawbreakers out of jail. Pelosi encouraged more violence. Maxine Waters encouraged violence.
 
Democrat leaders never distinguished the difference. The current VP bailed lawbreakers out of jail. Pelosi encouraged more violence. Maxine Waters encouraged violence.
What does any of that have to do with me and the things that I’ve said?!
 

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