In only 10% of counties in the US can a worker afford a 2 bedroom apartment working 40 hours a week

[Harpy Eagle]

Those people would either be unemployed or go back to the jobs you think will magically raise in wage.

In a FREE-market system (meaning it's not socialist, communist or fascist) wages rise when companies are productive (profitable and growing) and are competing with one another for employees.

Wages become stagnant when there is an abundance of workers (such as too many immigrants) and/or when business is slow.

This is basic economics.

Um it’s basic mathematics that if everyone left those jobs that can’t support 2 bedroom, the large majority of them would be unemployed because the jobs they seek simply don’t exist.

There are a million more open positions in this country than people to fill them....99% of those jobs are not minimum wage jobs.

 

[MeBelle]

'A national problem': U.S. housing affordability is out of whack with minimum wage

Obviously this should bother republican voters, but they have this fantasy mindset that Trump will turn this country into some kind of utopia despite the fact that he had two years to do so with a republican Congress. Their only response when presented with this is the usual pathetic deflection of “well Obama didn’t do it! Derp, derp, derp!”

Now granted Obama achieved little in improving the lives of the middle class and poor besides a few policies. These policies include 1) helping to reverse the Great Recession he inherited from Bush 6 months into his presidency and producing job growth EVER SINCE. 2) Expanding OT pay eligibility for thousands of US workers 3) guaranteeing people receive healthcare from pre-existing conditions, 4) passing the biggest middle class tax cut since Reagan

He also TRIED to invest education and raise the minimum wage but was blocked by republicans.
The point I am making is that republicans do fucking NOTHING to help the poor and middle class but democrats at least make an attempt despite failing on a significant scale. This nuance matters whether you like it or not.

/—-/ This is just plain racist and homophobic. Minimum wage should allow a worker bee to live in Malibu at the very least.

Lol what the fuck?

/——/ I’m serious dude. Minimum wage of $65 an hour would allow anyone to live in Malibu. Only racist and homophobes will object.
Malibu, CA | Data USA

You went over Billy's head with this post.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Maybe bringing in more millions of illegals will reduce housing costs, health care and increase wages. How about it?

Net migration from Mexico has been decreasing since 2008. There is no such thing as a border crisis unless you think any level of illegal immigration through out history was a crisis.

You dodged my points.

You want affordable housing and "living" wages while simultaneously supporting unlimited immigration, legal or otherwise, and you demand welfare for the 23 million illegals (and growing) that are here and everyone else that follows them here. Either you want the former or you want the latter but you cannot have both.

Dude, illegal immigration has always been a thing. Why would anyone support “unlimited immigration”? What the fuck are you even talking about? Liberals don’t want “open borders”. There simply isn’t an immigration crisis to speak of. Just because it still happens, it doesn’t somehow make it a crisis because it has always been a thing. Even if you magically sealed the border and deported all illegals, it wouldn’t somehow turn the US into some economic utopia.

Immigration, legal or otherwise, has an impact on our nation. Controlled immigration is generally positive. What we have now is too much immigration and it's detrimental for poor and middle-class Americans.

Um no they don’t. The unemployment rate is still like 3% at the end of the day. Do you see how basic statistics unravel your premise?

3% unemployment is basically full employment.

 

[Penelope]

'A national problem': U.S. housing affordability is out of whack with minimum wage

Obviously this should bother republican voters, but they have this fantasy mindset that Trump will turn this country into some kind of utopia despite the fact that he had two years to do so with a republican Congress. Their only response when presented with this is the usual pathetic deflection of “well Obama didn’t do it! Derp, derp, derp!”

Now granted Obama achieved little in improving the lives of the middle class and poor besides a few policies. These policies include 1) helping to reverse the Great Recession he inherited from Bush 6 months into his presidency and producing job growth EVER SINCE. 2) Expanding OT pay eligibility for thousands of US workers 3) guaranteeing people receive healthcare from pre-existing conditions, 4) passing the biggest middle class tax cut since Reagan

He also TRIED to invest education and raise the minimum wage but was blocked by republicans.

The point I am making is that republicans do fucking NOTHING to help the poor and middle class but democrats at least make an attempt despite failing on a significant scale. This nuance matters whether you like it or not.

Kind of hard when Obama mandated you pay for health insurance before you pay your rent or buy food.

Kind of hard when Chicago has an extra tax on snickers bars

Kind of hard when living in blue cities and the local dog catcher is driving around in a BMW.

Kind of hard when your blue citiy city clerk is taking working vacations to Tahiti.

.

No it went by your income, if your Magi income, and if too low you were on Medicaid. Every one should pay what they can afford for health ins, I find the people who complain about the mandate, do not want to insure themselves and use the ER for this insurance.

Snicker bards should be taxed, its not needed.

Everyone working gets a vacation.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

'A national problem': U.S. housing affordability is out of whack with minimum wage

Obviously this should bother republican voters, but they have this fantasy mindset that Trump will turn this country into some kind of utopia despite the fact that he had two years to do so with a republican Congress. Their only response when presented with this is the usual pathetic deflection of “well Obama didn’t do it! Derp, derp, derp!”

Now granted Obama achieved little in improving the lives of the middle class and poor besides a few policies. These policies include 1) helping to reverse the Great Recession he inherited from Bush 6 months into his presidency and producing job growth EVER SINCE. 2) Expanding OT pay eligibility for thousands of US workers 3) guaranteeing people receive healthcare from pre-existing conditions, 4) passing the biggest middle class tax cut since Reagan

He also TRIED to invest education and raise the minimum wage but was blocked by republicans.

The point I am making is that republicans do fucking NOTHING to help the poor and middle class but democrats at least make an attempt despite failing on a significant scale. This nuance matters whether you like it or not.

Life choices can have devastating effects if you make poor ones. That's really all there is to it.

 

[Flash]

It is hard for any American because the combined cost of government in this country is close to 40% of the GDP.

How can anybody get ahead when the government takes so much money out of the productive economy?

In most households the combined cost of government is the single largest yearly expense when you include everything.

In many American households two wage earners are needed because of the high cost of government.

It was the case with me. My wife was a school teacher (private) and I was an Engineer. In most years her take home pay was just about the amount of money we had to pay out each in taxes when everything is included..

The government is the problem. Liberals facilitate bloated government. When that asshole Obama was President take home pay was decreased.

 

[fncceo]

99% of those jobs are not minimum wage jobs.

Actually, just over 97%

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

'A national problem': U.S. housing affordability is out of whack with minimum wage

Obviously this should bother republican voters, but they have this fantasy mindset that Trump will turn this country into some kind of utopia despite the fact that he had two years to do so with a republican Congress. Their only response when presented with this is the usual pathetic deflection of “well Obama didn’t do it! Derp, derp, derp!”

Now granted Obama achieved little in improving the lives of the middle class and poor besides a few policies. These policies include 1) helping to reverse the Great Recession he inherited from Bush 6 months into his presidency and producing job growth EVER SINCE. 2) Expanding OT pay eligibility for thousands of US workers 3) guaranteeing people receive healthcare from pre-existing conditions, 4) passing the biggest middle class tax cut since Reagan

He also TRIED to invest education and raise the minimum wage but was blocked by republicans.

The point I am making is that republicans do fucking NOTHING to help the poor and middle class but democrats at least make an attempt despite failing on a significant scale. This nuance matters whether you like it or not.

Well that just proves that Taxes are too high, so lower them, allow more people to keep their own money so they can afford the rent.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

It is hard for any American because the combined cost of government in this country is close to 40% of the GDP.

How can anybody get ahead when the government takes so much money out of the productive economy?

In most households the combined cost of government is the single largest yearly expense when you include everything.

In many American households two wage earners are needed because of the high cost of government.

It was the case with me. My wife was a school teacher (private) and I was an Engineer. In most years her take home pay was just about the amount of money we had to pay out each in taxes when everything is included..

The government is the problem. Liberals facilitate bloated government. When that asshole Obama was President take home pay was decreased.

Thank god Trump cut the budget and spending then!

 

[Harpy Eagle]

99% of those jobs are not minimum wage jobs.

Actually, just over 97%

I am speaking of the open, unfilled positions. I doubt even 3% of them are minimum wage jobs. Even the fast food places here are paying more than minimum wage because of the fight for employees.

 

[lennypartiv]

There's a solution to that. Previous generations of immigrants lived in tenement housing.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

99% of those jobs are not minimum wage jobs.

Actually, just over 97%

I am speaking of the open, unfilled positions. I doubt even 3% of them are minimum wage jobs. Even the fast food places here are paying more than minimum wage because of the fight for employees.

This too shall pass in the next 5 years. Fast food will go by the way of many manufacturing jobs to automation. It's already happening. And it's not the lack of workers or the higher pay, it's just the way things are. Like the Gas Stations.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

There's a solution to that. Previous generations of immigrants lived in tenement housing.

You are getting close to the answer. But not quite. What would it take today?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

99% of those jobs are not minimum wage jobs.

Actually, just over 97%

I am speaking of the open, unfilled positions. I doubt even 3% of them are minimum wage jobs. Even the fast food places here are paying more than minimum wage because of the fight for employees.

This too shall pass in the next 5 years. Fast food will go by the way of many manufacturing jobs to automation. It's already happening. And it's not the lack of workers or the higher pay, it's just the way things are. Like the Gas Stations.

True. Not sure if it will be in 5 years, but it is a problem. Eventually we will run out of new jobs to replace the ones automated away. I think that tipping point will be when driver-less cars are viable.

 

[Penelope]

True.

Republicans not only do nothing, but they couldn’t care less about the housing crisis.

False.

Democrats not only do nothing, but they couldn't care less about the housing crisis.

Example: San Francisco, Los Angeles, Washington D.C., Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit ...

What has the republican congress done for the 4 years of GOP maj in both the house and the senate. The GOP House for 8 years and we know where bills get started.

They don't call Mitch the Grim Reaper for nothing, he takes up no bill from the House since the Democrats took control in 2019.

 

[Cellblock2429]

99% of those jobs are not minimum wage jobs.

Actually, just over 97%

I am speaking of the open, unfilled positions. I doubt even 3% of them are minimum wage jobs. Even the fast food places here are paying more than minimum wage because of the fight for employees.

This too shall pass in the next 5 years. Fast food will go by the way of many manufacturing jobs to automation. It's already happening. And it's not the lack of workers or the higher pay, it's just the way things are. Like the Gas Stations.

/—-/ Full Service gas stations started dying out in the 1970s. I’m old enough to remember them. Whatever Happened to...Full Service Gas Stations? - Go Retro!

 

[Daryl Hunt]

99% of those jobs are not minimum wage jobs.

Actually, just over 97%

I am speaking of the open, unfilled positions. I doubt even 3% of them are minimum wage jobs. Even the fast food places here are paying more than minimum wage because of the fight for employees.

This too shall pass in the next 5 years. Fast food will go by the way of many manufacturing jobs to automation. It's already happening. And it's not the lack of workers or the higher pay, it's just the way things are. Like the Gas Stations.

True. Not sure if it will be in 5 years, but it is a problem. Eventually we will run out of new jobs to replace the ones automated away. I think that tipping point will be when driver-less cars are viable.

At some point, we are going to have to figure out what to do with the idle public. There won't be any jobs for them to do. Even the City Planners will be replaced. Construction Workers will no longer be needed. And a whole lot more. And it's going to happen in the next 20 years. We need to start facing this right now. Yes, it's not an immediate problem but if we don't start planning for it then.........

Can you imagine being paid to stay home? It gives a new meaning to Socialism, doesn't it.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

99% of those jobs are not minimum wage jobs.

Actually, just over 97%

I am speaking of the open, unfilled positions. I doubt even 3% of them are minimum wage jobs. Even the fast food places here are paying more than minimum wage because of the fight for employees.

This too shall pass in the next 5 years. Fast food will go by the way of many manufacturing jobs to automation. It's already happening. And it's not the lack of workers or the higher pay, it's just the way things are. Like the Gas Stations.

/—-/ Full Service gas stations started dying out in the 1970s. I’m old enough to remember them. Whatever Happened to...Full Service Gas Stations? - Go Retro!

The beginning to the end was actually in the late 60s. We all thought it was just a fad.

 

[fncceo]

99% of those jobs are not minimum wage jobs.

Actually, just over 97%

I am speaking of the open, unfilled positions. I doubt even 3% of them are minimum wage jobs. Even the fast food places here are paying more than minimum wage because of the fight for employees.

This too shall pass in the next 5 years. Fast food will go by the way of many manufacturing jobs to automation. It's already happening. And it's not the lack of workers or the higher pay, it's just the way things are. Like the Gas Stations.

True. Not sure if it will be in 5 years, but it is a problem. Eventually we will run out of new jobs to replace the ones automated away. I think that tipping point will be when driver-less cars are viable.

At some point, we are going to have to figure out what to do with the idle public. There won't be any jobs for them to do. Even the City Planners will be replaced. Construction Workers will no longer be needed. And a whole lot more. And it's going to happen in the next 20 years. We need to start facing this right now. Yes, it's not an immediate problem but if we don't start planning for it then.........

Can you imagine being paid to stay home? It gives a new meaning to Socialism, doesn't it.

Ways of keeping the idle mob distracted and entertained is hardly a new problem...

 

[Cellblock2429]

99% of those jobs are not minimum wage jobs.

Actually, just over 97%

I am speaking of the open, unfilled positions. I doubt even 3% of them are minimum wage jobs. Even the fast food places here are paying more than minimum wage because of the fight for employees.

This too shall pass in the next 5 years. Fast food will go by the way of many manufacturing jobs to automation. It's already happening. And it's not the lack of workers or the higher pay, it's just the way things are. Like the Gas Stations.

True. Not sure if it will be in 5 years, but it is a problem. Eventually we will run out of new jobs to replace the ones automated away. I think that tipping point will be when driver-less cars are viable.

At some point, we are going to have to figure out what to do with the idle public. There won't be any jobs for them to do. Even the City Planners will be replaced. Construction Workers will no longer be needed. And a whole lot more. And it's going to happen in the next 20 years. We need to start facing this right now. Yes, it's not an immediate problem but if we don't start planning for it then.........

Can you imagine being paid to stay home? It gives a new meaning to Socialism, doesn't it.

/—-/ The solution is clear as day, $15 hour minimum wage for those who insist on working and $65 an hour for those who wisely stay out of the work force to free up more jobs. At $65 an hour, one can live in Malibu CA. Problem solved.