Tommy Tainant
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Yep, not a fun job listening to a half wit screw things up.When has Trump ever listened to his advisors? I think he keeps them around because he needs them standing behind him when he makes announcements. It make him look like he has concurrence from the experts.Pretty much sums it up. He has advisors though. Why didnt they say something ?That is water under bridge. Everyone knew JCPOA was flawed but it was far better than nothing. Looking back, what did the US gain by dropping out of JCPOA?Obama's agreement with Iran was certainly not perfect but a lot better than nothing. Donald Trump's action of cancelling an agreement with Iran that limited nuclear development and required inspections and replacing it with nothing is absolutely insane. It pretty well guarantees that Iran will eventually become a nuclear power. And as expressed by Iran, "it will be a cold day in hell before Iran enters into another agreement with the US after proving it does not honor it's agreements."![]()
Iran nuclear deal: European nations 'siding with ayatollahs' - Pompeo
His comments came after allies said the US could not trigger so-called "snapback" sanctions on Iran.www.bbc.co.uk
Mike Pompeo's assertion that Washington's key European allies are "siding with the ayatollahs" offers a test case of the failures of President Trump's approach towards Iran and of his foreign policy in general.
Foreign policy is about defining objectives; determining the means of getting there and, crucially, carrying other nations along with you. On Iran, the US has failed on every count.
Bluster might work among the less educated of his base but diplomacy is grown up stuff. If you cant take people with you then you stand alone and impotent. The world needs leadership and the US is playing golf.
I would imagine that most of Americas allies are waiting for November and the return of sanity to the world stage.
No, it was worse than no agreement and there was no TREATY to agree or disagree with.
Obama's agreement with Iran was certainly not perfect but a lot better than nothing. Donald Trump's action of cancelling an agreement with Iran that limited nuclear development and required inspections and replacing it with nothing is absolutely insane. It pretty well guarantees that Iran will eventually become a nuclear power. And as expressed by Iran, "it will be a cold day in hell before Iran enters into another agreement with the US after proving it does not honor it's agreements."
Obama’s secret Iran deals exposed
Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) (Danny Johnston/Associated Press)
By Marc A. Thiessen
July 27, 2015
President Obama promised that his nuclear deal with Iran would not be “based on trust” but rather “unprecedented verification.” Now it turns out Obama’s verification regime is based on trust after all — trust in two secret side agreements negotiated exclusively between Iran and the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) that apparently no one (including the Obama administration) has seen.
Worse, Obama didn’t even reveal the existence of these secret side deals to Congress when he transmitted the nuclear accord to Capitol Hill. The agreements were uncovered, completely by chance, by two members of Congress — Rep. Mike Pompeo (R-Kan.) and Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) — who were in Vienna meeting with the U.N.-releated agency.
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Obama administration sold a bad Iran nuclear deal to the American public
Donald Trump is not punting Iran problems down the road: Opposing view
Reuel Marc Gerecht
President Trump’s decision to withdraw the U.S. from the Iran nuclear deal should be viewed as condign punishment for the disingenuous way Barack Obama and his staff sold the agreement to the American public.
The deal does not “cut off every pathway that Iran could take to develop a nuclear weapon.” Once the regime perfects advanced centrifuges, which is allowed under the accord, the Islamic Republic’s nuclear-weapons ambitions cannot be checked. By 2025, Tehran can start assembling these models.
These high-velocity machines require small cascades. Without an extraordinarily lucky human-source intelligence penetration or sloppy Iranian telecommunications, American intelligence services would have no ability to find them hidden in warehouses.
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Obama administration sold a bad Iran nuclear deal to the American public
Donald Trump is not punting Iran problems down the road: Opposing viewwww.usatoday.com
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Secret Concessions of Nuclear Deal with Iran Revealed - Iran Focus
Iran Focus London, 28 Dec – Powerline News published a story on December 27 by Paul Mirengoff, about documents posted last week by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), and quotes the story byJenna Lifhits of the Weekly Standard, that allegedly reveals that President Obama granted Iran...www.iranfocus.com
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Did the US get the billions of dollars back from Iran? Nope, that money is long gone.
Did it reduce the Iran nuclear fuel output? Nope, Iran is increasing the number of centrifuges
Did it bring Iran back to the bargaining table? Nope, Iran said in the future it will not enter into any nuclear agreement with a nation that does not honor it's agreements.
What it has done is strengthen the resolve in Iran to become a nuclear power. In January 2020, Iran announced it would not be bound by any terms of JCPOA, effectively renouncing it's pledge to never develop nuclear weapons. Donald Trump's recognition of North Korea and application of US sanctions on Iran has left Iran with only one option and that is to become a nuclear power.
IMHO, the US got absolutely nothing out of leaving JCPOA but has pushed Iran toward becoming a nuclear power. Whether Iran will ever be successful is debatable but one thing is for sure, Russia will become the dominate superpower in the Middle East after the disastrous decisions the US has made in respect to Syria and Iran.