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Russian-Iranian relations just got $40 billion stronger
Iran and Russia have initialed contracts worth around $40 billion, including for power-engineering and railway projects, Russian news agencies quoted Ali Akbar Velayati, top adviser to Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, as saying on Thursday.
Velayati, who is wrapping up a visit to Moscow, said he had discussed some of the projects with Russian President Vladimir Putin. He said Tehran was interested in obtaining a loan from Russia for Iran's railways and nuclear power engineering.
That was true of the USSR but has not been true of Russia since the USSR dissolved.If you were able to understand the issues between the US and Iran and the issues between the US and Russia, it would make sense to you. The Russians, with some justification, see the US as an aggressor, taking former Russian satellite states into NATO after Bush41 promised Gorbachev they US would not if Gorbachev liberated them and backing Syrian rebels who would deny Russia its bases on the Mediterranean. The present tensions with Russia are entirely the result of failed US policy toward Russia ever since Bush41 left office and there is no reason why the US and Russia cannot reach agreements that will respect each other's legitimate security concerns and that would lead to the end of fighting in Syria and eastern Europe.They take US soldiers hostage.
They proclaim death to America
They fund terrorism.
Their arms killed US soldiers in Iraq
They seek weapons of mass destruction
They want to wipe Israel off the map
And Dumbfucks on this forum ignore all that in order to suck Obama cock.
Disgusting lack of patriotism & a moral compass
Wait..so it is ok to vote Trump because Hillary doesn't like Russia and no one wants to go to war with Russia, but Iran we shouldn't try to make peace with, we should fight them? You understand that doesn't make sense right?
Iran, on the other hand, is governed by Shi'ite religious fanatics who are fighting multiple wars against Sunni because of differences between them dating back over a thousand years, and is vehemently anti western. To the extent the US continues to have interests and allies in the ME, conflict with Iran is unavoidable.
You do understand that the problems with Russia started long before that right? Like in Afghanistan in 1979? Russia invades other countries... they don't respect the sovereignty of other nations.
That was true of the USSR but has not been true of Russia since the USSR dissolved.If you were able to understand the issues between the US and Iran and the issues between the US and Russia, it would make sense to you. The Russians, with some justification, see the US as an aggressor, taking former Russian satellite states into NATO after Bush41 promised Gorbachev they US would not if Gorbachev liberated them and backing Syrian rebels who would deny Russia its bases on the Mediterranean. The present tensions with Russia are entirely the result of failed US policy toward Russia ever since Bush41 left office and there is no reason why the US and Russia cannot reach agreements that will respect each other's legitimate security concerns and that would lead to the end of fighting in Syria and eastern Europe.They take US soldiers hostage.
They proclaim death to America
They fund terrorism.
Their arms killed US soldiers in Iraq
They seek weapons of mass destruction
They want to wipe Israel off the map
And Dumbfucks on this forum ignore all that in order to suck Obama cock.
Disgusting lack of patriotism & a moral compass
Wait..so it is ok to vote Trump because Hillary doesn't like Russia and no one wants to go to war with Russia, but Iran we shouldn't try to make peace with, we should fight them? You understand that doesn't make sense right?
Iran, on the other hand, is governed by Shi'ite religious fanatics who are fighting multiple wars against Sunni because of differences between them dating back over a thousand years, and is vehemently anti western. To the extent the US continues to have interests and allies in the ME, conflict with Iran is unavoidable.
You do understand that the problems with Russia started long before that right? Like in Afghanistan in 1979? Russia invades other countries... they don't respect the sovereignty of other nations.
BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA!That was true of the USSR but has not been true of Russia since the USSR dissolved.If you were able to understand the issues between the US and Iran and the issues between the US and Russia, it would make sense to you. The Russians, with some justification, see the US as an aggressor, taking former Russian satellite states into NATO after Bush41 promised Gorbachev they US would not if Gorbachev liberated them and backing Syrian rebels who would deny Russia its bases on the Mediterranean. The present tensions with Russia are entirely the result of failed US policy toward Russia ever since Bush41 left office and there is no reason why the US and Russia cannot reach agreements that will respect each other's legitimate security concerns and that would lead to the end of fighting in Syria and eastern Europe.They take US soldiers hostage.
They proclaim death to America
They fund terrorism.
Their arms killed US soldiers in Iraq
They seek weapons of mass destruction
They want to wipe Israel off the map
And Dumbfucks on this forum ignore all that in order to suck Obama cock.
Disgusting lack of patriotism & a moral compass
Wait..so it is ok to vote Trump because Hillary doesn't like Russia and no one wants to go to war with Russia, but Iran we shouldn't try to make peace with, we should fight them? You understand that doesn't make sense right?
Iran, on the other hand, is governed by Shi'ite religious fanatics who are fighting multiple wars against Sunni because of differences between them dating back over a thousand years, and is vehemently anti western. To the extent the US continues to have interests and allies in the ME, conflict with Iran is unavoidable.
You do understand that the problems with Russia started long before that right? Like in Afghanistan in 1979? Russia invades other countries... they don't respect the sovereignty of other nations.
HahahahahaI wrote in Scott Walker, not sure why that matters.NopeDid you vote for Trump?
Come on... then who did you vote for?
I want to know why you want the U.S. to make nice with Russia and not with Iran. Russia once threatened us with nuclear war... do you remember that? That's a hell of a lot more severe than taking a few hostages.
Russia doesn't want hostilities with the US. Russia wants to be a dominant & influential world player.
Iran is driven by homicidal religious dogma.
If you can't see the difference in possible outcomes to those goals you don't belong in this conversation.
You REALLY think Iran is just living so they can destroy America? Get the fuck out of here...
The U.S. gets involved in other country's business because they think they are helping the citizens of those countries. Russia gets in other country's business because they are trying to do what is best for them. You see the difference?
That is some funny shit. Libya was a stable country who gave up their weapons of mass destruction. Then.....
WE CAME
WE SAW
HE DIED
An now Libya is a shitstorm of terrorism.
We completely wrecked that country and it is now totally destabilized. Matters not how we achieved that. We did it. We caused it. We (Hillary) bragged about it. We own it.HahahahahaI wrote in Scott Walker, not sure why that matters.Nope
Come on... then who did you vote for?
I want to know why you want the U.S. to make nice with Russia and not with Iran. Russia once threatened us with nuclear war... do you remember that? That's a hell of a lot more severe than taking a few hostages.
Russia doesn't want hostilities with the US. Russia wants to be a dominant & influential world player.
Iran is driven by homicidal religious dogma.
If you can't see the difference in possible outcomes to those goals you don't belong in this conversation.
You REALLY think Iran is just living so they can destroy America? Get the fuck out of here...
The U.S. gets involved in other country's business because they think they are helping the citizens of those countries. Russia gets in other country's business because they are trying to do what is best for them. You see the difference?
That is some funny shit. Libya was a stable country who gave up their weapons of mass destruction. Then.....
WE CAME
WE SAW
HE DIED
An now Libya is a shitstorm of terrorism.
Wait, did the U.S. take over Libya? Did U.S. troops actually hit the ground in Libya and fight there? How many U.S. troops were esponsible for killing Gaddafi? Make sure to provide links please.
We deposed the leader and the anarchists took over. He made a deal with us under Bush to give up his nuclear program and Obama stabbed him in the back afterwards. After that Obama drew red lines in the Sands of Syria and ran from them when they were crossed.HahahahahaI wrote in Scott Walker, not sure why that matters.Nope
Come on... then who did you vote for?
I want to know why you want the U.S. to make nice with Russia and not with Iran. Russia once threatened us with nuclear war... do you remember that? That's a hell of a lot more severe than taking a few hostages.
Russia doesn't want hostilities with the US. Russia wants to be a dominant & influential world player.
Iran is driven by homicidal religious dogma.
If you can't see the difference in possible outcomes to those goals you don't belong in this conversation.
You REALLY think Iran is just living so they can destroy America? Get the fuck out of here...
The U.S. gets involved in other country's business because they think they are helping the citizens of those countries. Russia gets in other country's business because they are trying to do what is best for them. You see the difference?
That is some funny shit. Libya was a stable country who gave up their weapons of mass destruction. Then.....
WE CAME
WE SAW
HE DIED
An now Libya is a shitstorm of terrorism.
The Libyan people rose up themselves . What's up wh cons crying over the death of despot dictators? Qudaffi was worse than Castro !
Not at all. After the duplicity of the Clinton administration in breaking Bush41's promise to Gorbachev not to allow any former Soviet satellites states join NATO, an organization created specifically to fight Russia, Russia has good reason to be wary of any western inroads near its border, just as the US would be wary of any Russia inroads on its borders. The only way to end the fighting in Syria and eastern Europe is for the US and Russia to reach agreements to respect each other's legitimate security interests, something no administration since Bush41 has been willing to do.That was true of the USSR but has not been true of Russia since the USSR dissolved.If you were able to understand the issues between the US and Iran and the issues between the US and Russia, it would make sense to you. The Russians, with some justification, see the US as an aggressor, taking former Russian satellite states into NATO after Bush41 promised Gorbachev they US would not if Gorbachev liberated them and backing Syrian rebels who would deny Russia its bases on the Mediterranean. The present tensions with Russia are entirely the result of failed US policy toward Russia ever since Bush41 left office and there is no reason why the US and Russia cannot reach agreements that will respect each other's legitimate security concerns and that would lead to the end of fighting in Syria and eastern Europe.They take US soldiers hostage.
They proclaim death to America
They fund terrorism.
Their arms killed US soldiers in Iraq
They seek weapons of mass destruction
They want to wipe Israel off the map
And Dumbfucks on this forum ignore all that in order to suck Obama cock.
Disgusting lack of patriotism & a moral compass
Wait..so it is ok to vote Trump because Hillary doesn't like Russia and no one wants to go to war with Russia, but Iran we shouldn't try to make peace with, we should fight them? You understand that doesn't make sense right?
Iran, on the other hand, is governed by Shi'ite religious fanatics who are fighting multiple wars against Sunni because of differences between them dating back over a thousand years, and is vehemently anti western. To the extent the US continues to have interests and allies in the ME, conflict with Iran is unavoidable.
You do understand that the problems with Russia started long before that right? Like in Afghanistan in 1979? Russia invades other countries... they don't respect the sovereignty of other nations.
Except the Ukraine.
https://buzzfeed-video1.s3.amazonaws.com/video/2016/01/19/FromTheDeskOfDonaldTrump2-28-624x350.mp4We completely wrecked that country and it is now totally destabilized. Matters not how we achieved that. We did it. We caused it. We (Hillary) bragged about it. We own it.
We completely wrecked that country and it is now totally destabilized. Matters not how we achieved that. We did it. We caused it. We (Hillary) bragged about it. We own it.HahahahahaI wrote in Scott Walker, not sure why that matters.Come on... then who did you vote for?
I want to know why you want the U.S. to make nice with Russia and not with Iran. Russia once threatened us with nuclear war... do you remember that? That's a hell of a lot more severe than taking a few hostages.
Russia doesn't want hostilities with the US. Russia wants to be a dominant & influential world player.
Iran is driven by homicidal religious dogma.
If you can't see the difference in possible outcomes to those goals you don't belong in this conversation.
You REALLY think Iran is just living so they can destroy America? Get the fuck out of here...
The U.S. gets involved in other country's business because they think they are helping the citizens of those countries. Russia gets in other country's business because they are trying to do what is best for them. You see the difference?
That is some funny shit. Libya was a stable country who gave up their weapons of mass destruction. Then.....
WE CAME
WE SAW
HE DIED
An now Libya is a shitstorm of terrorism.
Wait, did the U.S. take over Libya? Did U.S. troops actually hit the ground in Libya and fight there? How many U.S. troops were esponsible for killing Gaddafi? Make sure to provide links please.
We deposed the leader and the anarchists took over. He made a deal with us under Bush to give up his nuclear program and Obama stabbed him in the back afterwards. After that Obama drew red lines in the Sands of Syria and ran from them when they were crossed.HahahahahaI wrote in Scott Walker, not sure why that matters.Come on... then who did you vote for?
I want to know why you want the U.S. to make nice with Russia and not with Iran. Russia once threatened us with nuclear war... do you remember that? That's a hell of a lot more severe than taking a few hostages.
Russia doesn't want hostilities with the US. Russia wants to be a dominant & influential world player.
Iran is driven by homicidal religious dogma.
If you can't see the difference in possible outcomes to those goals you don't belong in this conversation.
You REALLY think Iran is just living so they can destroy America? Get the fuck out of here...
The U.S. gets involved in other country's business because they think they are helping the citizens of those countries. Russia gets in other country's business because they are trying to do what is best for them. You see the difference?
That is some funny shit. Libya was a stable country who gave up their weapons of mass destruction. Then.....
WE CAME
WE SAW
HE DIED
An now Libya is a shitstorm of terrorism.
The Libyan people rose up themselves . What's up wh cons crying over the death of despot dictators? Qudaffi was worse than Castro !
Protip: This is how you get enemies to NEVER trust you or your word. This is how you embolden our enemies.
I never said I wanted Iran destroyed. Those are your words and I suspect you use them because it is the only way your argument makes sense. Iran should be contained just like Libya WAS. Libya is now a breeding ground for terrorists as well as an ungoverened state from which to launch terrorist attacks.We completely wrecked that country and it is now totally destabilized. Matters not how we achieved that. We did it. We caused it. We (Hillary) bragged about it. We own it.HahahahahaI wrote in Scott Walker, not sure why that matters.
Russia doesn't want hostilities with the US. Russia wants to be a dominant & influential world player.
Iran is driven by homicidal religious dogma.
If you can't see the difference in possible outcomes to those goals you don't belong in this conversation.
You REALLY think Iran is just living so they can destroy America? Get the fuck out of here...
The U.S. gets involved in other country's business because they think they are helping the citizens of those countries. Russia gets in other country's business because they are trying to do what is best for them. You see the difference?
That is some funny shit. Libya was a stable country who gave up their weapons of mass destruction. Then.....
WE CAME
WE SAW
HE DIED
An now Libya is a shitstorm of terrorism.
Wait, did the U.S. take over Libya? Did U.S. troops actually hit the ground in Libya and fight there? How many U.S. troops were esponsible for killing Gaddafi? Make sure to provide links please.
Wait a second...you hate Iran and want it destroyed, yet you are defending Libya. Do you remember what Libya has done? Like bomb the Lockerbie Plane bombing that killed 270 people including 188 Americans. And...the 1993 World Trade Center Bombing? And various other Libyan terrorist attacks? You seem to be forgetting about all that.