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If Congress wants the President to use military force again in Iraq let them vote on a resolution supporting President Obama and giving him the resources necessary.
why would he need congress
he has not needed them so far
If Congress wants the President to use military force again in Iraq let them vote on a resolution supporting President Obama and giving him the resources necessary.
why would he need congress
he has not needed them so far
Because your side has thrown a big FIT about it? If you want this, then support it with your vote, and stop your continual back stabbing with what ever decision the President of OUR NATION makes...
you want it, you back it....
(YOU, meaning conservatives, Republicans)
Watch it fall apart under Obama and Kerry. We broke that country and we have no business leaving until we fix it, no matter how much that sucks.
Watch it fall apart under Obama and Kerry. We broke that country and we have no business leaving until we fix it, no matter how much that sucks.
ONLY IF WE KNOW HOW to FIX IT....
otherwise we are wasting money and our soldiers lives...which must be considered....they are not just throw away pawns....
and 10 to 1, we have no idea how to fix anything in the middle east, nor does our country have the will to do it....without the assurance of making it BETTER.
I'm not against air support, but I am against more troops on the ground and another build up in Iraq.
:What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.
Maybe.Watch it fall apart under Obama and Kerry. We broke that country and we have no business leaving until we fix it, no matter how much that sucks.
Gerald Ford had the same choices in front of him in 1975. He (and/or his people) knew that airstrikes would not prove decisive as a stand-alone tactic, and let it (Vietnam) go.ISIS is out in the open...kill them with our killing machines. General Keane just outlined actions to take on Fox...too bad you missed it.
Watch it fall apart under Obama and Kerry. We broke that country and we have no business leaving until we fix it, no matter how much that sucks.
ONLY IF WE KNOW HOW to FIX IT....
otherwise we are wasting money and our soldiers lives...which must be considered....they are not just throw away pawns....
and 10 to 1, we have no idea how to fix anything in the middle east, nor does our country have the will to do it....without the assurance of making it BETTER.
I'm not against air support, but I am against more troops on the ground and another build up in Iraq.
For how many centuries have other countries been trying to "fix" the Middle East? We should be learning from others past mistakes not just our own.
We need to not give a shit about what goes on in the Middle East, but as long as OIL runs our world...
Gerald Ford had the same choices in front of him in 1975. He (and/or his people) knew that airstrikes would not prove decisive as a stand-alone tactic, and let it (Vietnam) go.ISIS is out in the open...kill them with our killing machines. General Keane just outlined actions to take on Fox...too bad you missed it.
So where are you getting a million people from?Propaganda? He killed a half million Shiites after the end of the Kuwait war alone. He's used WMDs on his own people numerous times. They dug up mass graves. No one disputes this. You're a true sheep.
Iraqi Sites Guide - The Mass Graves
Human rights in Saddam Hussein's Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaAccording to The New York Times, "he [Saddam] murdered as many as a million of his people, many with poison gas.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/26/w...e-has-hussein-killed.html?src=pm&pagewanted=2DOING the arithmetic is an imprecise venture. The largest number of deaths attributable to Mr. Hussein's regime resulted from the war between Iraq and Iran between 1980 and 1988, which was launched by Mr. Hussein. Iraq says its own toll was 500,000, and Iran's reckoning ranges upward of 300,000. Then there are the casualties in the wake of Iraq's 1990 occupation of Kuwait. Iraq's official toll from American bombing in that war is 100,000 -- surely a gross exaggeration -- but nobody contests that thousands of Iraqi soldiers and civilians were killed in the American campaign to oust Mr. Hussein's forces from Kuwait. In addition, 1,000 Kuwaitis died during the fighting and occupation in their country.
Casualties from Iraq's gulag are harder to estimate. Accounts collected by Western human rights groups from Iraqi émigrés and defectors have suggested that the number of those who have ''disappeared'' into the hands of the secret police, never to be heard from again, could be 200,000. As long as Mr. Hussein remains in power, figures like these will be uncheckable, but the huge toll is palpable nonetheless.
Could be one bright spot in this mess. Looks like the Kurds might finally get their own Homeland. The Kurds are a good trustworthy people. They've been a loyal friend. They seem somewhat sane in an insane part of the World. And they've been brutally oppressed by their neighbors on all sides. I have to root for em. I'd like to see them get their Homeland. God Bless em.
Turkey does not share your opinion. Free Kurdistan would be at war with Turkey within hours of becoming an independent state.
You're talking out of your ass, as usual.
The tensions between Turks and Kurds is because Kurds occupy Southeastern Turkey. Leaving for their own country will lessen tensions.
Wasn't most of these mass killings before The Gulf War in 1991?So where are you getting a million people from?
Human rights in Saddam Hussein's Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaAccording to The New York Times, "he [Saddam] murdered as many as a million of his people, many with poison gas.
The World; How Many People Has Hussein Killed?- Page 2 - New York TimesDOING the arithmetic is an imprecise venture. The largest number of deaths attributable to Mr. Hussein's regime resulted from the war between Iraq and Iran between 1980 and 1988, which was launched by Mr. Hussein. Iraq says its own toll was 500,000, and Iran's reckoning ranges upward of 300,000. Then there are the casualties in the wake of Iraq's 1990 occupation of Kuwait. Iraq's official toll from American bombing in that war is 100,000 -- surely a gross exaggeration -- but nobody contests that thousands of Iraqi soldiers and civilians were killed in the American campaign to oust Mr. Hussein's forces from Kuwait. In addition, 1,000 Kuwaitis died during the fighting and occupation in their country.
Casualties from Iraq's gulag are harder to estimate. Accounts collected by Western human rights groups from Iraqi émigrés and defectors have suggested that the number of those who have ''disappeared'' into the hands of the secret police, never to be heard from again, could be 200,000. As long as Mr. Hussein remains in power, figures like these will be uncheckable, but the huge toll is palpable nonetheless.
um, this particular argument has to do with how many did Hussein kill, not how many were killed since the Gulf war.Wasn't most of these mass killings before The Gulf War in 1991?So where are you getting a million people from?
Human rights in Saddam Hussein's Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The World; How Many People Has Hussein Killed?- Page 2 - New York TimesDOING the arithmetic is an imprecise venture. The largest number of deaths attributable to Mr. Hussein's regime resulted from the war between Iraq and Iran between 1980 and 1988, which was launched by Mr. Hussein. Iraq says its own toll was 500,000, and Iran's reckoning ranges upward of 300,000. Then there are the casualties in the wake of Iraq's 1990 occupation of Kuwait. Iraq's official toll from American bombing in that war is 100,000 -- surely a gross exaggeration -- but nobody contests that thousands of Iraqi soldiers and civilians were killed in the American campaign to oust Mr. Hussein's forces from Kuwait. In addition, 1,000 Kuwaitis died during the fighting and occupation in their country.
Casualties from Iraq's gulag are harder to estimate. Accounts collected by Western human rights groups from Iraqi émigrés and defectors have suggested that the number of those who have ''disappeared'' into the hands of the secret police, never to be heard from again, could be 200,000. As long as Mr. Hussein remains in power, figures like these will be uncheckable, but the huge toll is palpable nonetheless.
There were many experts in Truman's administration warning about the eternal wars in the Middle East that recognition of a Jewish state in PALESTINE would bring:ONLY IF WE KNOW HOW to FIX IT....
otherwise we are wasting money and our soldiers lives...which must be considered....they are not just throw away pawns....
and 10 to 1, we have no idea how to fix anything in the middle east, nor does our country have the will to do it....without the assurance of making it BETTER.
I'm not against air support, but I am against more troops on the ground and another build up in Iraq.
For how many centuries have other countries been trying to "fix" the Middle East? We should be learning from others past mistakes not just our own.
We need to not give a shit about what goes on in the Middle East, but as long as OIL runs our world...
The problem in the ME began in 1949 when Harry Truman recognized the Jewish State in exchange for a couple of million dollars. He needed to money to defeat Dewey.
Since then the US has given the Talmudist entity over 100 BBBBBBBBillions dollars. That money has been used by the Zionists to perpetrate the Palestinian Holocaust. And that IS the problem.
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yes, true....but i thought it was in the context of why we went to war, the second time around....?um, this particular argument has to do with how many did Hussein kill, not how many were killed since the Gulf war.Wasn't most of these mass killings before The Gulf War in 1991?
In fairness to Obama, this isn't his mess. However, his funding & arming extremist Terror-linked Rebels in Syria has led to this current mess. They're on a rampage in both Syria and Iraq. So that is his big blunder. He has contributed to making things worse over there. But it wouldn't be fair blaming the entire Iraq mess on him. He had nothing to do with the decision to invade.
Isn't it the NeoCon Right who has pushed for funding the Syrian resistance?
