Iraq is imploding. Should we lend air support or wash our hands?

[paulitician]

Using airpower and select spec ops missions to kill ISIS terrorists and help the ISF repel them is a better option than letting ISIS take over Iraq or Iran to take over Iraq making a bigger Iran.

Of course I'm sure plenty of liberal and losertarian idiots in this thread spewed their ignorance on this matter based on no experience in the military and watching Hollywood movies as their education on foreign policy/national security matters. Samson afterall is a "5-star General" according to him.

The fucktards never cease to amaze me.

The ISIS mujahideen go to Syria where they are militarily strengthened by the Obama administration which provides them money and materiel in order to oppose Bashar al-Assad.

Then they travel to Iraq where they use their newly found wealth to remove the shiites from power.

US Foreign policy where the (a) left hand does not know what the right is doing and (b) is afflicted by frequent blowbacks.

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Yeah, it's an awful mess for sure. For some reason Obama became obsessed with getting rid of Assad. It is eerily similar to Bush's obsession with getting rid of Hussein. That obsession has led to Obama funding & arming some very nasty Terror-linked groups in Syria. He clearly strengthened them. And now they're rampaging across Syria and Iraq. It was a huge blunder. Assad's the safer play, and so was Saddam Hussein.

 

[paulitician]

Could be one bright spot in this mess. Looks like the Kurds might finally get their own Homeland. The Kurds are a good trustworthy people. They've been a loyal friend. They seem somewhat sane in an insane part of the World. And they've been brutally oppressed by their neighbors on all sides. I have to root for em. I'd like to see them get their Homeland. God Bless em.

Turkey does not share your opinion. Free Kurdistan would be at war with Turkey within hours of becoming an independent state.

You're talking out of your ass, as usual.

The tensions between Turks and Kurds is because Kurds occupy Southeastern Turkey. Leaving for their own country will lessen tensions.

Yes, it's time for the Kurds to have their Homeland. The Turks, Arabs, and Persians have tormented them for centuries. A Kurdish Homeland would be the only positive to come out of the Iraq War.

 

[1776]

Turkey could step in but only if they would leave the Kurds alone, which they won't do.

 

[paulitician]

Europe, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia's turn to step and do something for a change. .

Saudi Arabia is a big part of the problem. They're currently funding & arming these Sunni Terror-linked groups in Syria and Iraq. They want to stop Iran's rise to power & influence in the region. They have to oppose the Shia Syrian and Iraqi Governments.

 

[BlindBoo]

If Congress wants the President to use military force again in Iraq let them vote on a resolution supporting President Obama and giving him the resources necessary.

why would he need congress

he has not needed them so far

I never said he needed Congress. Which is why I started out saying "If Congress wants the President to use military force again in Iraq ...... "

 

[paulitician]

Well let's see, we're fighting against the Iranian-backed Government in Syria while supporting the Iranian-backed Government in Iraq. Obama & Kerry are even talking about working closely with Iran on defeating the Sunni Rebels.

Man is it me, or is there something very wrong with this picture? This bizarre Foreign Interventionist Foreign Policy needs to end. It's time to come home.

 

[georgephillip]

Well let's see, we're fighting against the Iranian-backed Government in Syria while supporting the Iranian-backed Government in Iraq. Obama & Kerry are even talking about working closely with Iran on defeating the Sunni Rebels.

Man is it me, or is there something very wrong with this picture? This bizarre Foreign Interventionist Foreign Policy needs to end. It's time to come home.

Kerry mentioned how much harder it is today to manipulate public opinion since the internet appeared.

We may be at a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to make the rich whores who think they own this world stand up and represent.

Imagine what Changes if the next Manning or Snowden reveals the 28 pages from the Joint House and Senate Investigation into 911 which likely proves the hijackers were financed by Saudi royals.

If we can stop dividing over abortion and gay marriage (in spite of their significance) we can make Changes that will vanish the Republican AND Democratic parties from the page of time, and Fire the Second Shot Heard 'Round the World.

 

[Pheonixops]

Very true. There was a 'Status Of Forces' agreement in place before Obama. Obama yanked it for political expediency. The price for it is now being paid in blood.

Bullshit. You're a liar.

ONLY LIAR here is YOU shitstain...

U.S.?Iraq Status of Forces Agreement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"The agreement expired at midnight on December 31, 2011, even though the United States completed its final withdrawal of troops from Iraq on December 16, 2011. The symbolic ceremony in Baghdad officially "cased" (retired) the flag of U.S. forces in Iraq, according to army tradition."

 

[kaz]

For some reason Obama became obsessed with getting rid of Assad

Obama is Sunni

 

[GHook93]

Watch it fall apart under Obama and Kerry. We broke that country and we have no business leaving until we fix it, no matter how much that sucks.

We should have never tried to build a nation Iraq or any country! We need to take a page from the Russian invasion of Georgia and the US war on Libya ( trading Gaddiff for al Qaeda wasn't good, but the way we fought and won the war was). Attack the entire country, reduce the country to rubble and then get out letting them clean up their own mess. We should have leaned from Vietnam that nation building does of work!


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[GHook93]

I personally want to see Iraq turn into another Syria! Muslims killing Muslims to the 100s of thousands what is not to liken


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[protectionist]

Ok to the "let the muslims fight it out crew". This isn't two warring religious factions.

This is a situation whereby normal every day Joe and Jill Mohammed six packs are under attack by a psycho crazy homicidal terrorist army.

These poor Iraqis don't stand a chance against ISIS. Geeze louise guys get a grip.

Only one choice. Intervene now and keep ISIS from plundering Baghadad/Iraq and grabbing not only
her wealth and her oil fields but all the weapons we've given them.

If we allow ISIS and Levant to march forward we will doom ourselves people.

And give them a huge base of operations to go after ISRAEL...and don't think for one minute that it isn't in their plans...and WE are in their crosshairs as well.

How many nuclear weapons does ISIS have?
How does that compare to Israel?
Do you believe half the shit you post

How many nuclear weapons ISIS has NOW, is irrelevant to how many they could possess in a relatively short time after taking over Iraq, with all it's massive oil wealth. All the momentum and cards seem to be pointing in exactly that direction. Al Qaeda has been talking about whacking the US with nukes for years (the infamous "American Hiroshima). And ISIS has attacking America right in their official charter. What more so we need ? Graffiti on the White House ?

WE are indeed in their crosshairs, and anyone who would deny it is playing with the annihilation of America.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Anyone who believes the root issue is the Jewish state is either mentally feeble, woefully ignorant, or mentally malignant.

 

[Samson]

For some reason Obama became obsessed with getting rid of Assad

Obama is Sunni

Where in heaven's name would you get that idea?

 

[Samson]

Anyone who believes the root issue is the Jewish state is either mentally feeble, woefully ignorant, or mentally malignant.

As an expert, what would you say is the difference between mentally feeble and mentally malignant?

 

[georgephillip]

And give them a huge base of operations to go after ISRAEL...and don't think for one minute that it isn't in their plans...and WE are in their crosshairs as well.

How many nuclear weapons does ISIS have?
How does that compare to Israel?
Do you believe half the shit you post

How many nuclear weapons ISIS has NOW, is irrelevant to how many they could possess in a relatively short time after taking over Iraq, with all it's massive oil wealth. All the momentum and cards seem to be pointing in exactly that direction. Al Qaeda has been talking about whacking the US with nukes for years (the infamous "American Hiroshima). And ISIS has attacking America right in their official charter. What more so we need ? Graffiti on the White House ?

WE are indeed in their crosshairs, and anyone who would deny it is playing with the annihilation of America.

Yellowstone is a bigger threat to annihilate America.
Unlike most of the Muslim world, Sh'ia are the majority in Iraq, and they have back-up next door in Iran. If you really worry about smoking guns and mushroom clouds, you should help convince your government to stop killing Muslims for money and market share.

ANSWER Coalition

 

[Peach]

Air support, the Mesa Verde is there, or on the way, we need to send more.

 

[Samson]

Air support, the Mesa Verde is there, or on the way, we need to send more.

I like Salsa Verde.

I skipped lunch...

Carry on.

 

[peach174]

How many nuclear weapons does ISIS have?
How does that compare to Israel?
Do you believe half the shit you post

How many nuclear weapons ISIS has NOW, is irrelevant to how many they could possess in a relatively short time after taking over Iraq, with all it's massive oil wealth. All the momentum and cards seem to be pointing in exactly that direction. Al Qaeda has been talking about whacking the US with nukes for years (the infamous "American Hiroshima). And ISIS has attacking America right in their official charter. What more so we need ? Graffiti on the White House ?

WE are indeed in their crosshairs, and anyone who would deny it is playing with the annihilation of America.

Yellowstone is a bigger threat to annihilate America.
Unlike most of the Muslim world, Sh'ia are the majority in Iraq, and they have back-up next door in Iran. If you really worry about smoking guns and mushroom clouds, you should help convince your government to stop killing Muslims for money and market share.

ANSWER Coalition

An eruption from Yellowstone would create an ash cloud that would affect the entire world's atmosphere for a decade or more not just America.

If they get a build up there again. They will do the same thing again to us like they did on 9/11.
This next time it would be our electric grids. Not planes.
Al-Qaeda Calls for 'Electronic Jihad' - Terror group compares US cybersecurity to pre-9/11 aviation

 

[georgephillip]

Anyone who believes the root issue is the Jewish state is either mentally feeble, woefully ignorant, or mentally malignant.

If you get all your information about Israel's occupation of Palestine from US media, you are not seeing the daily humiliations and crimes inflicted upon indigenous Palestinians by recent migrants from Europe or Russia.

Solving the problem of Palestine would eliminate one source of Arab mistrust towards the west.