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Secession doesn't require a change in the Constitution.
You just made a statement of belief that is not supported by history and the facts. My comments were a statement of fact established by history.
The OP contains the proof that it is supported by history and the facts.
You have yet to post any facts.
The OP was legal opinion. A person can have a legal opinion and even try and support it but that doesn't mean it is correct or would be seen as sufficient in the eyes of the law.
What I said was a fact.
It wasn't a legal "opinion." It was a legal argument using logic and facts. What you spout in here is opinion. It has no basis in either logic or fact.
I would hope the legal opinion tried to use logic and facts. The problem is that the criteria for establishing if something is legal or not is a little higher than that.
Not one substantial source to refute that the original, Perpetual Union was and is in force.
Still no link....but no links that prove the Perpetual Union ended.
Still no link....but no links that prove the Perpetual Union ended.
There is no such link to be found.
You just made a statement of belief that is not supported by history and the facts. My comments were a statement of fact established by history.
The OP contains the proof that it is supported by history and the facts.
You have yet to post any facts.
The OP was legal opinion. A person can have a legal opinion and even try and support it but that doesn't mean it is correct or would be seen as sufficient in the eyes of the law.
What I said was a fact.
It wasn't a legal "opinion." It was a legal argument using logic and facts. What you spout in here is opinion. It has no basis in either logic or fact.
I would hope the legal opinion tried to use logic and facts. The problem is that the criteria for establishing if something is legal or not is a little higher than that.
Oh really? You wouldn't know it by reading the latest Court ruling on gay marriage or Obamacare. Those don't even refer to any actual text in the Constitution.
The same goes the Texas v. White ruling your so fond of. It contains outright lies.
You are immune to facts and logic.
You are immune to facts and logic.
^ Immune to the irony.
And yet he promised repeatedly not to abolish slavery, otherwise he would never have been elected. Herr Lincoln Uber Alles was first, last, and foremost a politician who ran for office several times until he found the magic words to win. Like Obama, he lacked even an ounce of geniune character. It's all a light show and suckers like you fall for it every time.The Poles fired the first shots of WW II. According to your theory that means they started the war.
Lincoln didn't invade Virginia to free the slaves. He didn't give a damn about them. He invaded to impose confiscatory tariffs on the Southern states.
Holy analogy fail Batman!
To say Lincoln didn't give a damn about the slaves is comically ignorant.
Your "facts" are so far from reality you might as well just claim that Lincoln was an alien from outer space.
What evidence is there that Lincoln gave a damn about the slaves?
Lincoln Douglas debates are a good place to start but there is plenty of other examples of his position. There is also the point of view of the South which is also very important.
The Lincoln-Douglass debates prove your claim is wrong. Please post an example that proves Lincoln gave a damn about the slaves.
"This declared indifference, but, as I must think, covert real zeal for the spread of slavery, I cannot but hate. I hate it because of the monstrous injustice of slavery itself. I hate it because it deprives our republican example of its just influence in the world—enables the enemies of free institutions, with plausibility, to taunt us as hypocrites—causes the real friends of freedom to doubt our sincerity, and especially because it forces so many really good men amongst ourselves into an open war with the very fundamental principles of civil liberty—criticizing the Declaration of Independence, and insisting that there is no right principle of action but self-interest."
He did not promise he stated if he had to save the union by keeping slavery he would because it would be his job . Well guess what didn't have to and freed the slaves. Lincoln was a great man and great president.And yet he promised repeatedly not to abolish slavery, otherwise he would never have been elected. Herr Lincoln Uber Alles was first, last, and foremost a politician who ran for office several times until he found the magic words to win. Like Obama, he lacked even an ounce of geniune character. It's all a light show and suckers like you fall for it every time.Holy analogy fail Batman!
To say Lincoln didn't give a damn about the slaves is comically ignorant.
Your "facts" are so far from reality you might as well just claim that Lincoln was an alien from outer space.
What evidence is there that Lincoln gave a damn about the slaves?
Lincoln Douglas debates are a good place to start but there is plenty of other examples of his position. There is also the point of view of the South which is also very important.
The Lincoln-Douglass debates prove your claim is wrong. Please post an example that proves Lincoln gave a damn about the slaves.
"This declared indifference, but, as I must think, covert real zeal for the spread of slavery, I cannot but hate. I hate it because of the monstrous injustice of slavery itself. I hate it because it deprives our republican example of its just influence in the world—enables the enemies of free institutions, with plausibility, to taunt us as hypocrites—causes the real friends of freedom to doubt our sincerity, and especially because it forces so many really good men amongst ourselves into an open war with the very fundamental principles of civil liberty—criticizing the Declaration of Independence, and insisting that there is no right principle of action but self-interest."
Oh I have no doubt if he were alive today you would wrap your lips around his....He did not promise he stated if he had to save the union by keeping slavery he would because it would be his job . Well guess what didn't have to and freed the slaves. Lincoln was a great man and great president.And yet he promised repeatedly not to abolish slavery, otherwise he would never have been elected. Herr Lincoln Uber Alles was first, last, and foremost a politician who ran for office several times until he found the magic words to win. Like Obama, he lacked even an ounce of geniune character. It's all a light show and suckers like you fall for it every time.What evidence is there that Lincoln gave a damn about the slaves?
Lincoln Douglas debates are a good place to start but there is plenty of other examples of his position. There is also the point of view of the South which is also very important.
The Lincoln-Douglass debates prove your claim is wrong. Please post an example that proves Lincoln gave a damn about the slaves.
"This declared indifference, but, as I must think, covert real zeal for the spread of slavery, I cannot but hate. I hate it because of the monstrous injustice of slavery itself. I hate it because it deprives our republican example of its just influence in the world—enables the enemies of free institutions, with plausibility, to taunt us as hypocrites—causes the real friends of freedom to doubt our sincerity, and especially because it forces so many really good men amongst ourselves into an open war with the very fundamental principles of civil liberty—criticizing the Declaration of Independence, and insisting that there is no right principle of action but self-interest."
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There is no legal right to secession, then or now or in the future, unless Congress either permits it or the Constitution is amended.
I just proved there is, dumbass.
Take your medication and go back to the home. The orderlies are looking for you.
Mr. Saint, you are little man that will not be remembered for even the time it takes for the daises to bloom on your resting place. Lincoln will be remembered for longer than even the US exists.And yet he promised repeatedly not to abolish slavery, otherwise he would never have been elected. Herr Lincoln Uber Alles was first, last, and foremost a politician who ran for office several times until he found the magic words to win. Like Obama, he lacked even an ounce of geniune character. It's all a light show and suckers like you fall for it every time.Holy analogy fail Batman!
To say Lincoln didn't give a damn about the slaves is comically ignorant.
Your "facts" are so far from reality you might as well just claim that Lincoln was an alien from outer space.
What evidence is there that Lincoln gave a damn about the slaves?
Lincoln Douglas debates are a good place to start but there is plenty of other examples of his position. There is also the point of view of the South which is also very important.
The Lincoln-Douglass debates prove your claim is wrong. Please post an example that proves Lincoln gave a damn about the slaves.
"This declared indifference, but, as I must think, covert real zeal for the spread of slavery, I cannot but hate. I hate it because of the monstrous injustice of slavery itself. I hate it because it deprives our republican example of its just influence in the world—enables the enemies of free institutions, with plausibility, to taunt us as hypocrites—causes the real friends of freedom to doubt our sincerity, and especially because it forces so many really good men amongst ourselves into an open war with the very fundamental principles of civil liberty—criticizing the Declaration of Independence, and insisting that there is no right principle of action but self-interest."
Image of what a coward with a firearm can accomplish.
Image of what a coward with a firearm can accomplish.
Now imagine a Democrat standing behind a taxpayer and you're starting to get it
He did not promise he stated if he had to save the union by keeping slavery he would because it would be his job . Well guess what didn't have to and freed the slaves. Lincoln was a great man and great president.
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