Is climate change the new race card ???

[buckeye45_73]

. And with all those options you list, and with all the progress over the years, then why are the lefties trying to use climate change the same as throwing the race card around willy nilly then ???? Why are you people trying to destroy jobs and industry with the card, even when it shouldn't apply ??? I know why, it's because it will never end with you people that's why. You find something with so much grey area involved in it, and then you use it to transfer wealth, and then you go to the extremes with it.

for example??? can you point to a specific thing to highlight what you are talking about?

Carbon tax
Parts accordi
Basically any environmental law passed in the past.2.decades

You think that every single environmental law and tax is useless and no good has come from any of them?

Where did I say that? Those idiot lefties like to put words in your mouth, so they always confuse some with all.
but laws past in the last 2 decades, maybe more.
The problem is you can pass laws to clean up air and water, then what? They have to come up with more reason to justify getting funding and donations and basically their entire existence, so they make bad regulations.
If it's not obvious why a regulation exists, it's bad.

Then fight the regulations that you disagree with, point out the tremendous waste and inefficiency in government spending... you have much better areas to focus your argument on other than denying the science and calling it a hoax.

Well its not proven and the hoax is used to implementing more bullshit regulations, so by fighting it, I AM opposing bad regulation.

 

[Kosh]

for example??? can you point to a specific thing to highlight what you are talking about?

Carbon tax
Parts accordi
Basically any environmental law passed in the past.2.decades

You think that every single environmental law and tax is useless and no good has come from any of them?

Where did I say that? Those idiot lefties like to put words in your mouth, so they always confuse some with all.
but laws past in the last 2 decades, maybe more.
The problem is you can pass laws to clean up air and water, then what? They have to come up with more reason to justify getting funding and donations and basically their entire existence, so they make bad regulations.
If it's not obvious why a regulation exists, it's bad.

Then fight the regulations that you disagree with, point out the tremendous waste and inefficiency in government spending... you have much better areas to focus your argument on other than denying the science and calling it a hoax.

Well its not proven and the hoax is used to implementing more bullshit regulations, so by fighting it, I AM opposing bad regulation.

It is scam used by the far left to have more taxes and regulations as many nations they have tapped out their money resources. So they have to create new ones to continue to fund their over bloated social programs.

The AGW movement is nothing more than wealth redistribution!

The Climate will change whether humans exist on this planet or not! Well at least for the next 600 million to 1.2 Billion years..

 

[BluesLegend]

d

Bernie Sanders the moron was on the Sunday news shows today saying global warming is 100% settled and no opposition whatsoever should be tolerated. If science took that approach to any other area of science we'd be living in a world of ignorance. Just in the last 20 years we have found that we were categorically wrong about a great many things in cosmology and physics, things that were mocked and laughed at until proven.

Black holes for example, previously ridiculed, now we know there are billions of them. Some are 30 billion solar masses which has science stumped. The universe is too young to have produced a black hole that large.

Challenging science, peer review, skepticism is good science. The crap this Bernie idiot was spewing today is the polar opposite of good science. Shout down ANY skepticism. Why? Bernie told us, his hatred of fossil fuels which is to say his hatred of corporations who mine fossil fuels and the profits they make and don't share with the mooching class.

It is 100% settled. Mans actions effect our environment. The details are not settled and should be scrutinized and further investigated and discussed, but the fact that what we burn, drill, mine, cut, and kill as an effect on the condition of our environment is without a doubt.

Best case scenario is we contaminate our air and water and food sources in a manageable way where not too many people get sick... Worst case is we are speeding up the timeline to the next ice age and triggering larger environmental events that effect our climate.

Whether it is the worse case (extreme climate change) or the best case (pollution of our environment and depletion of our resources), politically speaking, this issue needs to be considered in the actions of as many earthlings as possible. Those who deny that are delusional and pissing on our future generations.

No its not why do you people lie? I think we all know why. #eyeroll

Cause and effect dude. Science. Every time you fart it is effecting the environment. That's a fact. What is being studied is how much of an effect it has. To outright deny that it has any effect is just plain ignorant

And all the times 'settled science' was proven wrong? Every so called 'science' attack you people have volleyed at fossil fuels has been proven wrong. Before global warming you people claimed global cooling, proven wrong. Then you claimed fossil fuels were destroying the ozone layer and this was deforming frogs and the end of the world was near. Later proven categorically wrong. You people claimed the polar ice caps would be gone by 2012 well its 2016 and they are still here. Your so called settled science is a joke.

 

[RealDave]

You think that every single environmental law and tax is useless and no good has come from any of them?

Where did I say that? Those idiot lefties like to put words in your mouth, so they always confuse some with all.
but laws past in the last 2 decades, maybe more.
The problem is you can pass laws to clean up air and water, then what? They have to come up with more reason to justify getting funding and donations and basically their entire existence, so they make bad regulations.
If it's not obvious why a regulation exists, it's bad.

Then fight the regulations that you disagree with, point out the tremendous waste and inefficiency in government spending... you have much better areas to focus your argument on other than denying the science and calling it a hoax.

AGW is not science it is a religion..

CO2 Does not control climate never has..

Only a far left drone would make such claims!

Wiki lays out the situation quite nicely. It's pretty obvious which camp you fall into

Global warming controversy - Wikipedia

Correlation does not equal science I can prove via correlation that the more the far left drones throws their temper tantrums that more the temperature rises!

After 6- years the AGW religion has never been able to prove that CO2 control climate.

Even the ice core samples show that CO2 has never controlled climate.

Throughout the entire history of the Earth CO2 has never controlled climate, it never has.

And yes you are a far left drone, you are just ashamed to come out of the closet!

CO2 is a factor in the climate.

 

[RealDave]

Carbon tax
Parts accordi
Basically any environmental law passed in the past.2.decades

You think that every single environmental law and tax is useless and no good has come from any of them?

Where did I say that? Those idiot lefties like to put words in your mouth, so they always confuse some with all.
but laws past in the last 2 decades, maybe more.
The problem is you can pass laws to clean up air and water, then what? They have to come up with more reason to justify getting funding and donations and basically their entire existence, so they make bad regulations.
If it's not obvious why a regulation exists, it's bad.

Then fight the regulations that you disagree with, point out the tremendous waste and inefficiency in government spending... you have much better areas to focus your argument on other than denying the science and calling it a hoax.

The scam is the fossil fuel industry duping feeble minded people like you.


Well its not proven and the hoax is used to implementing more bullshit regulations, so by fighting it, I AM opposing bad regulation.

It is scam used by the far left to have more taxes and regulations as many nations they have tapped out their money resources. So they have to create new ones to continue to fund their over bloated social programs.

The AGW movement is nothing more than wealth redistribution!

The Climate will change whether humans exist on this planet or not! Well at least for the next 600 million to 1.2 Billion years..

 

[RealDave]

d

Bernie Sanders the moron was on the Sunday news shows today saying global warming is 100% settled and no opposition whatsoever should be tolerated. If science took that approach to any other area of science we'd be living in a world of ignorance. Just in the last 20 years we have found that we were categorically wrong about a great many things in cosmology and physics, things that were mocked and laughed at until proven.

Black holes for example, previously ridiculed, now we know there are billions of them. Some are 30 billion solar masses which has science stumped. The universe is too young to have produced a black hole that large.

Challenging science, peer review, skepticism is good science. The crap this Bernie idiot was spewing today is the polar opposite of good science. Shout down ANY skepticism. Why? Bernie told us, his hatred of fossil fuels which is to say his hatred of corporations who mine fossil fuels and the profits they make and don't share with the mooching class.

It is 100% settled. Mans actions effect our environment. The details are not settled and should be scrutinized and further investigated and discussed, but the fact that what we burn, drill, mine, cut, and kill as an effect on the condition of our environment is without a doubt.

Best case scenario is we contaminate our air and water and food sources in a manageable way where not too many people get sick... Worst case is we are speeding up the timeline to the next ice age and triggering larger environmental events that effect our climate.

Whether it is the worse case (extreme climate change) or the best case (pollution of our environment and depletion of our resources), politically speaking, this issue needs to be considered in the actions of as many earthlings as possible. Those who deny that are delusional and pissing on our future generations.

No its not why do you people lie? I think we all know why. #eyeroll

Cause and effect dude. Science. Every time you fart it is effecting the environment. That's a fact. What is being studied is how much of an effect it has. To outright deny that it has any effect is just plain ignorant

And all the times 'settled science' was proven wrong? Every so called 'science' attack you people have volleyed at fossil fuels has been proven wrong. Before global warming you people claimed global cooling, proven wrong. Then you claimed fossil fuels were destroying the ozone layer and this was deforming frogs and the end of the world was near. Later proven categorically wrong. You people claimed the polar ice caps would be gone by 2012 well its 2016 and they are still here. Your so called settled science is a joke.

"You people" evidently people like me, the smart educated well-informed".

Actually, it was the press that took a statement in the 70's & mis-reported it as a cooling. Look it up sometime & become better informed.

Yes, the ozone. We took action & reduced the use of the chemicals that were harming it. It worked.

They said the Arctic MIGHT be ice free AS SOON AS SOON AS.... We have done some reduction in emissions since that statement was made.

Science is right. Dumb fucks like you - not so much. Instead of wasting your time lying here, open a book once in a while.

 

[bripat9643]

Where did I say that? Those idiot lefties like to put words in your mouth, so they always confuse some with all.
but laws past in the last 2 decades, maybe more.
The problem is you can pass laws to clean up air and water, then what? They have to come up with more reason to justify getting funding and donations and basically their entire existence, so they make bad regulations.
If it's not obvious why a regulation exists, it's bad.

Then fight the regulations that you disagree with, point out the tremendous waste and inefficiency in government spending... you have much better areas to focus your argument on other than denying the science and calling it a hoax.

AGW is not science it is a religion..

CO2 Does not control climate never has..

Only a far left drone would make such claims!

Wiki lays out the situation quite nicely. It's pretty obvious which camp you fall into

Global warming controversy - Wikipedia

Correlation does not equal science I can prove via correlation that the more the far left drones throws their temper tantrums that more the temperature rises!

After 6- years the AGW religion has never been able to prove that CO2 control climate.

Even the ice core samples show that CO2 has never controlled climate.

Throughout the entire history of the Earth CO2 has never controlled climate, it never has.

And yes you are a far left drone, you are just ashamed to come out of the closet!

CO2 is a factor in the climate.

Prove it.

 

[BluesLegend]

d

Bernie Sanders the moron was on the Sunday news shows today saying global warming is 100% settled and no opposition whatsoever should be tolerated. If science took that approach to any other area of science we'd be living in a world of ignorance. Just in the last 20 years we have found that we were categorically wrong about a great many things in cosmology and physics, things that were mocked and laughed at until proven.

Black holes for example, previously ridiculed, now we know there are billions of them. Some are 30 billion solar masses which has science stumped. The universe is too young to have produced a black hole that large.

Challenging science, peer review, skepticism is good science. The crap this Bernie idiot was spewing today is the polar opposite of good science. Shout down ANY skepticism. Why? Bernie told us, his hatred of fossil fuels which is to say his hatred of corporations who mine fossil fuels and the profits they make and don't share with the mooching class.

It is 100% settled. Mans actions effect our environment. The details are not settled and should be scrutinized and further investigated and discussed, but the fact that what we burn, drill, mine, cut, and kill as an effect on the condition of our environment is without a doubt.

Best case scenario is we contaminate our air and water and food sources in a manageable way where not too many people get sick... Worst case is we are speeding up the timeline to the next ice age and triggering larger environmental events that effect our climate.

Whether it is the worse case (extreme climate change) or the best case (pollution of our environment and depletion of our resources), politically speaking, this issue needs to be considered in the actions of as many earthlings as possible. Those who deny that are delusional and pissing on our future generations.

No its not why do you people lie? I think we all know why. #eyeroll

Cause and effect dude. Science. Every time you fart it is effecting the environment. That's a fact. What is being studied is how much of an effect it has. To outright deny that it has any effect is just plain ignorant

And all the times 'settled science' was proven wrong? Every so called 'science' attack you people have volleyed at fossil fuels has been proven wrong. Before global warming you people claimed global cooling, proven wrong. Then you claimed fossil fuels were destroying the ozone layer and this was deforming frogs and the end of the world was near. Later proven categorically wrong. You people claimed the polar ice caps would be gone by 2012 well its 2016 and they are still here. Your so called settled science is a joke.

"You people" evidently people like me, the smart educated well-informed".

Actually, it was the press that took a statement in the 70's & mis-reported it as a cooling. Look it up sometime & become better informed.

Yes, the ozone. We took action & reduced the use of the chemicals that were harming it. It worked.

They said the Arctic MIGHT be ice free AS SOON AS SOON AS.... We have done some reduction in emissions since that statement was made.

Science is right. Dumb fucks like you - not so much. Instead of wasting your time lying here, open a book once in a while.

My pinky is smarter than you libtard. Lets discuss the key point you skipped over shall we. The deformed frogs you idiots said were the result of fossil fuel ozone depletion radiation...yes it turned out to be a mite not radiation causing the deformed frogs. You people said frogs being more susceptible to radiation was proof we were all gonna die from radiation due to fossil fuels depleting the ozone layer, WRONG.

Lets get back to real science, enough of this politics government grant infested corrupted science.

 

[RealDave]

Then fight the regulations that you disagree with, point out the tremendous waste and inefficiency in government spending... you have much better areas to focus your argument on other than denying the science and calling it a hoax.

AGW is not science it is a religion..

CO2 Does not control climate never has..

Only a far left drone would make such claims!

Wiki lays out the situation quite nicely. It's pretty obvious which camp you fall into

Global warming controversy - Wikipedia

Correlation does not equal science I can prove via correlation that the more the far left drones throws their temper tantrums that more the temperature rises!

After 6- years the AGW religion has never been able to prove that CO2 control climate.

Even the ice core samples show that CO2 has never controlled climate.

Throughout the entire history of the Earth CO2 has never controlled climate, it never has.

And yes you are a far left drone, you are just ashamed to come out of the closet!

CO2 is a factor in the climate.

Prove it.

I've done it several times on this thread. I can't help it tast you are too fucking stupid to get it.

How CO2 warming is driving climate

Read it & become better informed.

Why do you hate your children?

 

[bripat9643]

AGW is not science it is a religion..

CO2 Does not control climate never has..

Only a far left drone would make such claims!

Wiki lays out the situation quite nicely. It's pretty obvious which camp you fall into

Global warming controversy - Wikipedia

Correlation does not equal science I can prove via correlation that the more the far left drones throws their temper tantrums that more the temperature rises!

After 6- years the AGW religion has never been able to prove that CO2 control climate.

Even the ice core samples show that CO2 has never controlled climate.

Throughout the entire history of the Earth CO2 has never controlled climate, it never has.

And yes you are a far left drone, you are just ashamed to come out of the closet!

CO2 is a factor in the climate.

Prove it.

I've done it several times on this thread. I can't help it tast you are too fucking stupid to get it.

How CO2 warming is driving climate

Read it & become better informed.

Why do you hate your children?

That's not proof. It's nothing more than a statement of warmer cultists unproven theories.

 

[RealDave]

d
It is 100% settled. Mans actions effect our environment. The details are not settled and should be scrutinized and further investigated and discussed, but the fact that what we burn, drill, mine, cut, and kill as an effect on the condition of our environment is without a doubt.

Best case scenario is we contaminate our air and water and food sources in a manageable way where not too many people get sick... Worst case is we are speeding up the timeline to the next ice age and triggering larger environmental events that effect our climate.

Whether it is the worse case (extreme climate change) or the best case (pollution of our environment and depletion of our resources), politically speaking, this issue needs to be considered in the actions of as many earthlings as possible. Those who deny that are delusional and pissing on our future generations.

No its not why do you people lie? I think we all know why. #eyeroll

Cause and effect dude. Science. Every time you fart it is effecting the environment. That's a fact. What is being studied is how much of an effect it has. To outright deny that it has any effect is just plain ignorant

And all the times 'settled science' was proven wrong? Every so called 'science' attack you people have volleyed at fossil fuels has been proven wrong. Before global warming you people claimed global cooling, proven wrong. Then you claimed fossil fuels were destroying the ozone layer and this was deforming frogs and the end of the world was near. Later proven categorically wrong. You people claimed the polar ice caps would be gone by 2012 well its 2016 and they are still here. Your so called settled science is a joke.

"You people" evidently people like me, the smart educated well-informed".

Actually, it was the press that took a statement in the 70's & mis-reported it as a cooling. Look it up sometime & become better informed.

Yes, the ozone. We took action & reduced the use of the chemicals that were harming it. It worked.

They said the Arctic MIGHT be ice free AS SOON AS SOON AS.... We have done some reduction in emissions since that statement was made.

Science is right. Dumb fucks like you - not so much. Instead of wasting your time lying here, open a book once in a while.

My pinky is smarter than you libtard. Lets discuss the key point you skipped over shall we. The deformed frogs you idiots said were the result of fossil fuel ozone depletion radiation...yes it turned out to be a mite not radiation causing the deformed frogs. You people said frogs being more susceptible to radiation was proof we were all gonna die from radiation due to fossil fuels depleting the ozone layer, WRONG.

Lets get back to real science, enough of this politics government grant infested corrupted science.

Your pinkey is shoved too far up your nose top know much of anything.
One of the causes listed was ozone & global warming. It still is.

You are sofa king stupid, you are unaware of the ozone issue, what was causing it & how it has been addressed. Ozone depletion occurs when chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs)—formerly found in aerosol spray cans and refrigerants—are released into the atmosphere. These gases, through several chemical reactions, cause the ozone molecules to break down, reducing ozone's ultraviolet (UV) radiation-absorbing capacity. CFCs have been banned but it may take another 50 years to get things back to normal.

It is like acid rain. There was a major concern. You whiners cried & whined & said no no no,. Cap & Trade was put into effect (Thank you George HW Bush) and acid rain was fixed. But Republicans lied & lied & lied about how that cap & trade would cost jobs & ruin the economy,. But it did no such thing.

This country needs more Republicans like George HW Bush & get rid of the ignorant Republicans like you & Trump.

 

[Slade3200]

for example??? can you point to a specific thing to highlight what you are talking about?

Carbon tax
Parts accordi
Basically any environmental law passed in the past.2.decades

You think that every single environmental law and tax is useless and no good has come from any of them?

Where did I say that? Those idiot lefties like to put words in your mouth, so they always confuse some with all.
but laws past in the last 2 decades, maybe more.
The problem is you can pass laws to clean up air and water, then what? They have to come up with more reason to justify getting funding and donations and basically their entire existence, so they make bad regulations.
If it's not obvious why a regulation exists, it's bad.

Then fight the regulations that you disagree with, point out the tremendous waste and inefficiency in government spending... you have much better areas to focus your argument on other than denying the science and calling it a hoax.

Well its not proven and the hoax is used to implementing more bullshit regulations, so by fighting it, I AM opposing bad regulation.

You should oppose the regulations then and not the science. People will start associating you with whackos like Kosh.

 

[Slade3200]

Carbon tax
Parts accordi
Basically any environmental law passed in the past.2.decades

You think that every single environmental law and tax is useless and no good has come from any of them?

Where did I say that? Those idiot lefties like to put words in your mouth, so they always confuse some with all.
but laws past in the last 2 decades, maybe more.
The problem is you can pass laws to clean up air and water, then what? They have to come up with more reason to justify getting funding and donations and basically their entire existence, so they make bad regulations.
If it's not obvious why a regulation exists, it's bad.

Then fight the regulations that you disagree with, point out the tremendous waste and inefficiency in government spending... you have much better areas to focus your argument on other than denying the science and calling it a hoax.

Well its not proven and the hoax is used to implementing more bullshit regulations, so by fighting it, I AM opposing bad regulation.

It is scam used by the far left to have more taxes and regulations as many nations they have tapped out their money resources. So they have to create new ones to continue to fund their over bloated social programs.

The AGW movement is nothing more than wealth redistribution!

The Climate will change whether humans exist on this planet or not! Well at least for the next 600 million to 1.2 Billion years..

What's funny about this is you think that I have an interest in supporting higher taxes and more regulations. I dont benefit from either of those. I want low taxes and less government interference. There is a ton of fat that needs cutting. But I'm not going to make an ignorant claim denying the risk and dangers that mans activity poses to our environment. It's called reality

 

[Slade3200]

d

Bernie Sanders the moron was on the Sunday news shows today saying global warming is 100% settled and no opposition whatsoever should be tolerated. If science took that approach to any other area of science we'd be living in a world of ignorance. Just in the last 20 years we have found that we were categorically wrong about a great many things in cosmology and physics, things that were mocked and laughed at until proven.

Black holes for example, previously ridiculed, now we know there are billions of them. Some are 30 billion solar masses which has science stumped. The universe is too young to have produced a black hole that large.

Challenging science, peer review, skepticism is good science. The crap this Bernie idiot was spewing today is the polar opposite of good science. Shout down ANY skepticism. Why? Bernie told us, his hatred of fossil fuels which is to say his hatred of corporations who mine fossil fuels and the profits they make and don't share with the mooching class.

It is 100% settled. Mans actions effect our environment. The details are not settled and should be scrutinized and further investigated and discussed, but the fact that what we burn, drill, mine, cut, and kill as an effect on the condition of our environment is without a doubt.

Best case scenario is we contaminate our air and water and food sources in a manageable way where not too many people get sick... Worst case is we are speeding up the timeline to the next ice age and triggering larger environmental events that effect our climate.

Whether it is the worse case (extreme climate change) or the best case (pollution of our environment and depletion of our resources), politically speaking, this issue needs to be considered in the actions of as many earthlings as possible. Those who deny that are delusional and pissing on our future generations.

No its not why do you people lie? I think we all know why. #eyeroll

Cause and effect dude. Science. Every time you fart it is effecting the environment. That's a fact. What is being studied is how much of an effect it has. To outright deny that it has any effect is just plain ignorant

And all the times 'settled science' was proven wrong? Every so called 'science' attack you people have volleyed at fossil fuels has been proven wrong. Before global warming you people claimed global cooling, proven wrong. Then you claimed fossil fuels were destroying the ozone layer and this was deforming frogs and the end of the world was near. Later proven categorically wrong. You people claimed the polar ice caps would be gone by 2012 well its 2016 and they are still here. Your so called settled science is a joke.

You're right, let's just go nuts and shit all over the world. Fuck it. Party time

 

[buckeye45_73]

Carbon tax
Parts accordi
Basically any environmental law passed in the past.2.decades

You think that every single environmental law and tax is useless and no good has come from any of them?

Where did I say that? Those idiot lefties like to put words in your mouth, so they always confuse some with all.
but laws past in the last 2 decades, maybe more.
The problem is you can pass laws to clean up air and water, then what? They have to come up with more reason to justify getting funding and donations and basically their entire existence, so they make bad regulations.
If it's not obvious why a regulation exists, it's bad.

Then fight the regulations that you disagree with, point out the tremendous waste and inefficiency in government spending... you have much better areas to focus your argument on other than denying the science and calling it a hoax.

Well its not proven and the hoax is used to implementing more bullshit regulations, so by fighting it, I AM opposing bad regulation.

You should oppose the regulations then and not the science. People will start associating you with whackos like Kosh.

I do support science x there is none in climate change, its a bullshit model that use fake data and leave out alot of important factors.

Oh and the fact all the commies are for it and want us to blindly accept it and their remedies( none of which they follow)

 

[buckeye45_73]

Qqql0

You think that every single environmental law and tax is useless and no good has come from any of them?

Where did I say that? Those idiot lefties like to put words in your mouth, so they always confuse some with all.
but laws past in the last 2 decades, maybe more.
The problem is you can pass laws to clean up air and water, then what? They have to come up with more reason to justify getting funding and donations and basically their entire existence, so they make bad regulations.
If it's not obvious why a regulation exists, it's bad.

Then fight the regulations that you disagree with, point out the tremendous waste and inefficiency in government spending... you have much better areas to focus your argument on other than denying the science and calling it a hoax.

Well its not proven and the hoax is used to implementing more bullshit regulations, so by fighting it, I AM opposing bad regulation.

It is scam used by the far left to have more taxes and regulations as many nations they have tapped out their money resources. So they have to create new ones to continue to fund their over bloated social programs.

The AGW movement is nothing more than wealth redistribution!

The Climate will change whether humans exist on this planet or not! Well at least for the next 600 million to 1.2 Billion years..

What's funny about this is you think that I have an interest in supporting higher taxes and more regulations. I dont benefit from either of those. I want low taxes and less government interference. There is a ton of fat that needs cutting. But I'm not going to make an ignorant claim denying the risk and dangers that mans activity poses to our environment. It's called reality

First with climate change stop trying to.force this shit.
How many warning do we get, time Passes and we get another, its boring, its been going on since the 70s.
So do we get another 10 years?

Stop making gpredictions that fail, like superstorms and hurricanes everywhere, then we go into a 10 year low period.

And dont get caught falsifying data like at East anglia and noah.

And if all else fails, those soundingol the alarm need to act like its true,
Live in small houses houses, give up fossil fuels, have a very small footprint.


We just dont buy it, it seems like a scam to make money and to regulate the populace into serfdom.

 

[Slade3200]

You think that every single environmental law and tax is useless and no good has come from any of them?

Where did I say that? Those idiot lefties like to put words in your mouth, so they always confuse some with all.
but laws past in the last 2 decades, maybe more.
The problem is you can pass laws to clean up air and water, then what? They have to come up with more reason to justify getting funding and donations and basically their entire existence, so they make bad regulations.
If it's not obvious why a regulation exists, it's bad.

Then fight the regulations that you disagree with, point out the tremendous waste and inefficiency in government spending... you have much better areas to focus your argument on other than denying the science and calling it a hoax.

Well its not proven and the hoax is used to implementing more bullshit regulations, so by fighting it, I AM opposing bad regulation.

You should oppose the regulations then and not the science. People will start associating you with whackos like Kosh.

I do support science x there is none in climate change, its a bullshit model that use fake data and leave out alot of important factors.

Oh and the fact all the commies are for it and want us to blindly accept it and their remedies( none of which they follow)

Its not blind acceptance there is a tremendous amount of support about climate change in the scientific community... More so than those who deny it. So what resources to do you trust? Where do you get your information?

Do you trust our government intelligence? For example, if the pentagon releases information about something do you trust them?

 

[ScienceRocks]

for example??? can you point to a specific thing to highlight what you are talking about?

Carbon tax
Parts accordi
Basically any environmental law passed in the past.2.decades

You think that every single environmental law and tax is useless and no good has come from any of them?

Where did I say that? Those idiot lefties like to put words in your mouth, so they always confuse some with all.
but laws past in the last 2 decades, maybe more.
The problem is you can pass laws to clean up air and water, then what? They have to come up with more reason to justify getting funding and donations and basically their entire existence, so they make bad regulations.
If it's not obvious why a regulation exists, it's bad.

Then fight the regulations that you disagree with, point out the tremendous waste and inefficiency in government spending... you have much better areas to focus your argument on other than denying the science and calling it a hoax.

Well its not proven and the hoax is used to implementing more bullshit regulations, so by fighting it, I AM opposing bad regulation.

So you don't believe in the green house effect which is based on solid physics? lol

 

[buckeye45_73]

Where did I say that? Those idiot lefties like to put words in your mouth, so they always confuse some with all.
but laws past in the last 2 decades, maybe more.
The problem is you can pass laws to clean up air and water, then what? They have to come up with more reason to justify getting funding and donations and basically their entire existence, so they make bad regulations.
If it's not obvious why a regulation exists, it's bad.

Then fight the regulations that you disagree with, point out the tremendous waste and inefficiency in government spending... you have much better areas to focus your argument on other than denying the science and calling it a hoax.

Well its not proven and the hoax is used to implementing more bullshit regulations, so by fighting it, I AM opposing bad regulation.

You should oppose the regulations then and not the science. People will start associating you with whackos like Kosh.

I do support science x there is none in climate change, its a bullshit model that use fake data and leave out alot of important factors.

Oh and the fact all the commies are for it and want us to blindly accept it and their remedies( none of which they follow)

Its not blind acceptance there is a tremendous amount of support about climate change in the scientific community... More so than those who deny it. So what resources to do you trust? Where do you get your information?

Do you trust our government intelligence? For example, if the pentagon releases information about something do you trust them?

Im skeptical of all of it, I like to corroborante wi th other sources first.

I dont make rush judgements and people that want to hurry me, whether its car salemen or al.gore, will see that i dont play that game.

 

[bripat9643]

Carbon tax
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Basically any environmental law passed in the past.2.decades

You think that every single environmental law and tax is useless and no good has come from any of them?

Where did I say that? Those idiot lefties like to put words in your mouth, so they always confuse some with all.
but laws past in the last 2 decades, maybe more.
The problem is you can pass laws to clean up air and water, then what? They have to come up with more reason to justify getting funding and donations and basically their entire existence, so they make bad regulations.
If it's not obvious why a regulation exists, it's bad.

Then fight the regulations that you disagree with, point out the tremendous waste and inefficiency in government spending... you have much better areas to focus your argument on other than denying the science and calling it a hoax.

Well its not proven and the hoax is used to implementing more bullshit regulations, so by fighting it, I AM opposing bad regulation.

You should oppose the regulations then and not the science. People will start associating you with whackos like Kosh.

The so-called "science" is bullshit. It's nothing more than propaganda designed to justify the regulations.