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Congress is in recess. The president has offered a specific plan and the Republicans said no compromise.
Link to said plan? The only thing I could find was where he was backing a Democrat plan that called for more revenues as part of the plan.......which he already got. Specifically what specific cuts has he specifically offered to specifically cut while not including the increased revenue he wants since he already got it? The Repubs gave, now it's his specific turn. When will he lead?
Yes closing tax loopholes for the wealthy is part of the proposal.
Setting the Record Straight About the Sequester | The White House
I think they will let the sequester happen.
Contrary to the willfully ignorant rantings of our neocon/teabagger Crusader Frank, the sequester was a COMPROMISE AGREED UPON BY BOEHNER AND OBAMA in order to avoid the "fiscal cliff" that the GOP was threatening the country with if they didn't get their way on the Bush tax cuts. The sequester would happen only if Congress couldn't get it's act together regarding the budget.
Both Boehner and Ryan are on record stating that they were satisfied with that agreement.
Next.
The idea was put forward by Obama's team according to the President's own press secretary.
In answer to the the GOP's obstructionist stance and threat of taking us over the fiscal cliff. Try as they might, you cannot separate the two.
And yeah, I have no doubt that Boehner and other Republicans agreed with it for the puke-stained purpose of crafting some kind of compromise.
A pox on all their houses.
Bohner is on record stating he got 90% of what he wanted....remember, the GOP are the obstructionist hell bent on "beating" Obama and maintaining the Bush tax cuts by any means necessary.
But let's none of us pretend that it was the brainchild of Boehner or, just because it was the Obama team that cobbled the idea together, that Boehner and the GOP have no responsibility for it.
But it makes no honest sense for Obama to try to do a partisan smear on Boehenr and the GOP about the consequences of the very idea he and his "team" initiated.
Contrary to the willfully ignorant rantings of our neocon/teabagger Crusader Frank, the sequester was a COMPROMISE AGREED UPON BY BOEHNER AND OBAMA in order to avoid the "fiscal cliff" that the GOP was threatening the country with if they didn't get their way on the Bush tax cuts. The sequester would happen only if Congress couldn't get it's act together regarding the budget.
Both Boehner and Ryan are on record stating that they were satisfied with that agreement.
Next.
The idea was put forward by Obama's team according to the President's own press secretary.
In answer to the the GOP's obstructionist stance and threat of taking us over the fiscal cliff. Try as they might, you cannot separate the two.
And yeah, I have no doubt that Boehner and other Republicans agreed with it for the puke-stained purpose of crafting some kind of compromise.
A pox on all their houses.
Bohner is on record stating he got 90% of what he wanted....remember, the GOP are the obstructionist hell bent on "beating" Obama and maintaining the Bush tax cuts by any means necessary.
But let's none of us pretend that it was the brainchild of Boehner or, just because it was the Obama team that cobbled the idea together, that Boehner and the GOP have no responsibility for it.
But it makes no honest sense for Obama to try to do a partisan smear on Boehenr and the GOP about the consequences of the very idea he and his "team" initiated.
Again, you keep trying to put the blame wholly on Obama while ignoring the FACT that the Obstructionis GOP were quite willing to take us over the (manufactured) fiscal cliff to get their way. Sorry, but the FACTS just won't let that dog fly.
Contrary to the willfully ignorant rantings of our neocon/teabagger Crusader Frank, the sequester was a COMPROMISE AGREED UPON BY BOEHNER AND OBAMA in order to avoid the "fiscal cliff" that the GOP was threatening the country with if they didn't get their way on the Bush tax cuts. The sequester would happen only if Congress couldn't get it's act together regarding the budget.
Both Boehner and Ryan are on record stating that they were satisfied with that agreement.
Next.
The idea was put forward by Obama's team according to the President's own press secretary.
In answer to the the GOP's obstructionist stance and threat of taking us over the fiscal cliff. Try as they might, you cannot separate the two.
And yeah, I have no doubt that Boehner and other Republicans agreed with it for the puke-stained purpose of crafting some kind of compromise.
A pox on all their houses.
Bohner is on record stating he got 90% of what he wanted....remember, the GOP are the obstructionist hell bent on "beating" Obama and maintaining the Bush tax cuts by any means necessary.
But let's none of us pretend that it was the brainchild of Boehner or, just because it was the Obama team that cobbled the idea together, that Boehner and the GOP have no responsibility for it.
But it makes no honest sense for Obama to try to do a partisan smear on Boehenr and the GOP about the consequences of the very idea he and his "team" initiated.
Again, you keep trying to put the blame wholly on Obama while ignoring the FACT that the Obstructionis GOP were quite willing to take us over the (manufactured) fiscal cliff to get their way. Sorry, but the FACTS just won't let that dog fly.
The idea was put forward by Obama's team according to the President's own press secretary.
In answer to the the GOP's obstructionist stance and threat of taking us over the fiscal cliff. Try as they might, you cannot separate the two.
And yeah, I have no doubt that Boehner and other Republicans agreed with it for the puke-stained purpose of crafting some kind of compromise.
A pox on all their houses.
Bohner is on record stating he got 90% of what he wanted....remember, the GOP are the obstructionist hell bent on "beating" Obama and maintaining the Bush tax cuts by any means necessary.
But let's none of us pretend that it was the brainchild of Boehner or, just because it was the Obama team that cobbled the idea together, that Boehner and the GOP have no responsibility for it.
But it makes no honest sense for Obama to try to do a partisan smear on Boehenr and the GOP about the consequences of the very idea he and his "team" initiated.
Again, you keep trying to put the blame wholly on Obama while ignoring the FACT that the Obstructionis GOP were quite willing to take us over the (manufactured) fiscal cliff to get their way. Sorry, but the FACTS just won't let that dog fly.
Obama refused to accept adult spending cuts and insisted on the sequester
Stop lying
The idea was put forward by Obama's team according to the President's own press secretary.
In answer to the the GOP's obstructionist stance and threat of taking us over the fiscal cliff. Try as they might, you cannot separate the two.
And yeah, I have no doubt that Boehner and other Republicans agreed with it for the puke-stained purpose of crafting some kind of compromise.
A pox on all their houses.
Bohner is on record stating he got 90% of what he wanted....remember, the GOP are the obstructionist hell bent on "beating" Obama and maintaining the Bush tax cuts by any means necessary.
But let's none of us pretend that it was the brainchild of Boehner or, just because it was the Obama team that cobbled the idea together, that Boehner and the GOP have no responsibility for it.
But it makes no honest sense for Obama to try to do a partisan smear on Boehenr and the GOP about the consequences of the very idea he and his "team" initiated.
Again, you keep trying to put the blame wholly on Obama while ignoring the FACT that the Obstructionis GOP were quite willing to take us over the (manufactured) fiscal cliff to get their way. Sorry, but the FACTS just won't let that dog fly.
Incorrect.
I do NOT place the blame WHOLLY on Obama.
I just don't accept silently Obama's deliberate lie that the blame is with Boehner and the GOP.
To the extent that the idea CAME from team Obama (as per Obama's own press secretary, lest we forget), then it is rational to recognize that Obama gets MORE of the blame.
It makes it damn sordid of him to be trying to pass that buck at this stage. So, fuck that inept bumbling buffoon. Let the sequester happen.
It speaks volumes that the left go into hysterical apoplexy at a reduction in the growth of government, but think that a reduction in the growth of the economy is just a-okay.
It was Obama who proposed the gutless, thoughtless Sequester, now he's saying his own idea will devastate us. Is he retarded or lying?
It was Obama who proposed the gutless, thoughtless Sequester, now he's saying his own idea will devastate us. Is he retarded or lying?
Retarded or lying?
You are a lying retard, that I know for sure.
Obama, the same guy who added $6 Trillion in debt says how he cut the deficit $2.5 Trillion.
Future generations will laugh themselves silly when they read about how fucking stupid we were to have this moron as POTUS
Listen ya fegging moron dupes, this all STARTED with Pubs making an economy crushing CRISIS out of the debt ceiling and paying the GD bills. You're so STUPID- just no one can believe HOW stupid and destructive. Sequester was just a way out of THAT self inflicted horror...
The sequester came from team GOP, they had been pushing it since May 2011 in the debt ceiling fiasco.The idea was put forward by Obama's team according to the President's own press secretary.
In answer to the the GOP's obstructionist stance and threat of taking us over the fiscal cliff. Try as they might, you cannot separate the two.
And yeah, I have no doubt that Boehner and other Republicans agreed with it for the puke-stained purpose of crafting some kind of compromise.
A pox on all their houses.
Bohner is on record stating he got 90% of what he wanted....remember, the GOP are the obstructionist hell bent on "beating" Obama and maintaining the Bush tax cuts by any means necessary.
But let's none of us pretend that it was the brainchild of Boehner or, just because it was the Obama team that cobbled the idea together, that Boehner and the GOP have no responsibility for it.
But it makes no honest sense for Obama to try to do a partisan smear on Boehenr and the GOP about the consequences of the very idea he and his "team" initiated.
Again, you keep trying to put the blame wholly on Obama while ignoring the FACT that the Obstructionis GOP were quite willing to take us over the (manufactured) fiscal cliff to get their way. Sorry, but the FACTS just won't let that dog fly.
Incorrect.
I do NOT place the blame WHOLLY on Obama.
I just don't accept silently Obama's deliberate lie that the blame is with Boehner and the GOP.
To the extent that the idea CAME from team Obama (as per Obama's own press secretary, lest we forget), then it is rational to recognize that Obama gets MORE of the blame.
It makes it damn sordid of him to be trying to pass that buck at this stage. So, fuck that inept bumbling buffoon. Let the sequester happen.
The sequester came from team GOP, they had been pushing it since May 2011 in the debt ceiling fiasco.Again, you keep trying to put the blame wholly on Obama while ignoring the FACT that the Obstructionis GOP were quite willing to take us over the (manufactured) fiscal cliff to get their way. Sorry, but the FACTS just won't let that dog fly.
Incorrect.
I do NOT place the blame WHOLLY on Obama.
I just don't accept silently Obama's deliberate lie that the blame is with Boehner and the GOP.
To the extent that the idea CAME from team Obama (as per Obama's own press secretary, lest we forget), then it is rational to recognize that Obama gets MORE of the blame.
It makes it damn sordid of him to be trying to pass that buck at this stage. So, fuck that inept bumbling buffoon. Let the sequester happen.
Bill Text - 112th Congress (2011-2012) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)
Returning to Responsible Fiscal Policies Act
SEC. 253A. ENFORCING GDP OUTLAY LIMITS.
`(a) Enforcing GDP Outlay Limits- In this section, the term `GDP outlay limit' means an amount, as estimated by OMB, equal to--
`(1) the average GDP for the first 5 of the 6 fiscal years preceding the target fiscal year; multiplied by
`(2) 23 percent for fiscal year 2012; 22 percent for fiscal year 2013; 21 percent for fiscal year 2014; 19.5 percent for fiscal year 2015; and 18 percent for fiscal year 2016 and each subsequent fiscal year.
`(b) GDP Outlay Limit and Outlays-
`(1) DETERMINING THE GDP OUTLAY LIMIT- The Office of Management and Budget shall estimate the GDP outlay limit for the target fiscal year at the outset of the previous fiscal year, on April 30, on August 20, and 15 days after the conclusion of the fiscal year. CBO shall provide advisory reports calculating the GDP outlay limit at identical times.
`(2) TOTAL FEDERAL OUTLAYS- In this section, total Federal outlays shall include all on-budget and off-budget outlays.
`(c) Sequestration-
`(1) IN GENERAL-
`(A) EXCESS SPENDING- Not later than 45 calendar days after the beginning of a fiscal year, OMB shall conduct a sequestration to eliminate the excess outlay amount.
Listen ya fegging moron dupes, this all STARTED with Pubs making an economy crushing CRISIS out of the debt ceiling and paying the GD bills. You're so STUPID- just no one can believe HOW stupid and destructive. Sequester was just a way out of THAT self inflicted horror...
The sequester came from team GOP, they had been pushing it since May 2011 in the debt ceiling fiasco.Again, you keep trying to put the blame wholly on Obama while ignoring the FACT that the Obstructionis GOP were quite willing to take us over the (manufactured) fiscal cliff to get their way. Sorry, but the FACTS just won't let that dog fly.
Incorrect.
I do NOT place the blame WHOLLY on Obama.
I just don't accept silently Obama's deliberate lie that the blame is with Boehner and the GOP.
To the extent that the idea CAME from team Obama (as per Obama's own press secretary, lest we forget), then it is rational to recognize that Obama gets MORE of the blame.
It makes it damn sordid of him to be trying to pass that buck at this stage. So, fuck that inept bumbling buffoon. Let the sequester happen.
Bill Text - 112th Congress (2011-2012) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)
Returning to Responsible Fiscal Policies Act
SEC. 253A. ENFORCING GDP OUTLAY LIMITS.
`(a) Enforcing GDP Outlay Limits- In this section, the term `GDP outlay limit' means an amount, as estimated by OMB, equal to--
`(1) the average GDP for the first 5 of the 6 fiscal years preceding the target fiscal year; multiplied by
`(2) 23 percent for fiscal year 2012; 22 percent for fiscal year 2013; 21 percent for fiscal year 2014; 19.5 percent for fiscal year 2015; and 18 percent for fiscal year 2016 and each subsequent fiscal year.
`(b) GDP Outlay Limit and Outlays-
`(1) DETERMINING THE GDP OUTLAY LIMIT- The Office of Management and Budget shall estimate the GDP outlay limit for the target fiscal year at the outset of the previous fiscal year, on April 30, on August 20, and 15 days after the conclusion of the fiscal year. CBO shall provide advisory reports calculating the GDP outlay limit at identical times.
`(2) TOTAL FEDERAL OUTLAYS- In this section, total Federal outlays shall include all on-budget and off-budget outlays.
`(c) Sequestration-
`(1) IN GENERAL-
`(A) EXCESS SPENDING- Not later than 45 calendar days after the beginning of a fiscal year, OMB shall conduct a sequestration to eliminate the excess outlay amount.
So even though all the facts and dates PROVE Carney was WRONG, what is known to be wrong must be accepted as Right simply because Carney said it.The sequester came from team GOP, they had been pushing it since May 2011 in the debt ceiling fiasco.Incorrect.
I do NOT place the blame WHOLLY on Obama.
I just don't accept silently Obama's deliberate lie that the blame is with Boehner and the GOP.
To the extent that the idea CAME from team Obama (as per Obama's own press secretary, lest we forget), then it is rational to recognize that Obama gets MORE of the blame.
It makes it damn sordid of him to be trying to pass that buck at this stage. So, fuck that inept bumbling buffoon. Let the sequester happen.
Bill Text - 112th Congress (2011-2012) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)
Returning to Responsible Fiscal Policies Act
SEC. 253A. ENFORCING GDP OUTLAY LIMITS.
`(a) Enforcing GDP Outlay Limits- In this section, the term `GDP outlay limit' means an amount, as estimated by OMB, equal to--
`(1) the average GDP for the first 5 of the 6 fiscal years preceding the target fiscal year; multiplied by
`(2) 23 percent for fiscal year 2012; 22 percent for fiscal year 2013; 21 percent for fiscal year 2014; 19.5 percent for fiscal year 2015; and 18 percent for fiscal year 2016 and each subsequent fiscal year.
`(b) GDP Outlay Limit and Outlays-
`(1) DETERMINING THE GDP OUTLAY LIMIT- The Office of Management and Budget shall estimate the GDP outlay limit for the target fiscal year at the outset of the previous fiscal year, on April 30, on August 20, and 15 days after the conclusion of the fiscal year. CBO shall provide advisory reports calculating the GDP outlay limit at identical times.
`(2) TOTAL FEDERAL OUTLAYS- In this section, total Federal outlays shall include all on-budget and off-budget outlays.
`(c) Sequestration-
`(1) IN GENERAL-
`(A) EXCESS SPENDING- Not later than 45 calendar days after the beginning of a fiscal year, OMB shall conduct a sequestration to eliminate the excess outlay amount.
EXCEPT, pointing to the legislation does NOT establish that the idea came from the GOP.
Since Carney acknowledged just over a week ago that the idea came from the Obama team, it would appear to be the case that the Executive Branch planted the seed, the dimwit Legislative Branch majority in the House went along with it and helped to pass it and THEN the President signed it.
I realize you liberals HATE to face facts like this, but President Obama does not get to pass the buck on his own stupid idea.
Shame on the GOP for going along with it. But shame on the President for his role in creating it and even more shame for trying to now disown his own handiwork.
So even though all the facts and dates PROVE Carney was WRONG, what is known to be wrong must be accepted as Right simply because Carney said it.The sequester came from team GOP, they had been pushing it since May 2011 in the debt ceiling fiasco.
Bill Text - 112th Congress (2011-2012) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)
Returning to Responsible Fiscal Policies Act
SEC. 253A. ENFORCING GDP OUTLAY LIMITS.
`(a) Enforcing GDP Outlay Limits- In this section, the term `GDP outlay limit' means an amount, as estimated by OMB, equal to--
`(1) the average GDP for the first 5 of the 6 fiscal years preceding the target fiscal year; multiplied by
`(2) 23 percent for fiscal year 2012; 22 percent for fiscal year 2013; 21 percent for fiscal year 2014; 19.5 percent for fiscal year 2015; and 18 percent for fiscal year 2016 and each subsequent fiscal year.
`(b) GDP Outlay Limit and Outlays-
`(1) DETERMINING THE GDP OUTLAY LIMIT- The Office of Management and Budget shall estimate the GDP outlay limit for the target fiscal year at the outset of the previous fiscal year, on April 30, on August 20, and 15 days after the conclusion of the fiscal year. CBO shall provide advisory reports calculating the GDP outlay limit at identical times.
`(2) TOTAL FEDERAL OUTLAYS- In this section, total Federal outlays shall include all on-budget and off-budget outlays.
`(c) Sequestration-
`(1) IN GENERAL-
`(A) EXCESS SPENDING- Not later than 45 calendar days after the beginning of a fiscal year, OMB shall conduct a sequestration to eliminate the excess outlay amount.
EXCEPT, pointing to the legislation does NOT establish that the idea came from the GOP.
Since Carney acknowledged just over a week ago that the idea came from the Obama team, it would appear to be the case that the Executive Branch planted the seed, the dimwit Legislative Branch majority in the House went along with it and helped to pass it and THEN the President signed it.
I realize you liberals HATE to face facts like this, but President Obama does not get to pass the buck on his own stupid idea.
Shame on the GOP for going along with it. But shame on the President for his role in creating it and even more shame for trying to now disown his own handiwork.
Brilliant, who can argue with such "logic."
