Is Politicizing Tragedy Wrong?

BertramN

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Before replying to just the title, read the OP, it's not what you think.

People of reason look upon gun deaths as tragic. But as we have often observed, that is not always the case with conservatives. They, more often than not, use the news report as an opportunity to push their agenda to deregulate gun sales, open carry, and their opposition to background checks.

However, in the past, I have been “reprimanded” by Second Amendment fanatics (the majority of which are conservatives) for “politicizing a tragedy” with OPs that have advocated sensible gun regulations.

But, after decades of the NRA pumping millions-of-dollars into political candidates’ campaigns who oppose common sense gun laws, how can gun deaths and the need for common sense gun regulations be anything but political?

For example, just a few days ago, an eighteen-year-old received a gun from his girlfriend’s father as a graduation present. The youth was considered experienced in handling fire arms. Unfortunately, within a short period of hours, while he treated the weapon like a toy, he shot and killed his girlfriend. An innocent victim of carelessness killed by a “responsible” gun owner.

As so often happens, we have another tragic gun death caused by an individual who was considered, by himself and those around him, responsible with guns. And Second Amendment fanatics still want guns in the hands of as many people as possible.

It is alarming the frequency of reports of responsible gun owners leaving their “toys” out in the open, fully loaded, for small children to find, and results in a death or serious injury. Like the news articles concerning women who have been shot with their own guns by their own small children. The innocent victims of carelessness here are the children. They will always remember they either killed or wounded their own mothers.

Incidents like those above happen with alarming regularity. Much, much more often that a good-guy-with-a-gun saves a life.

However, when it come to politicizing a tragedy, conservatives are selective in their criticism. They will defend the Big Orange Head’s politicizing of the London terror attack yesterday. Rather than show some class and humility and offer comfort and support, Big Orange used this attack to tout his travel ban, push the courts to reinstate it, and use a lie to condemn London’s mayor, once again embarrassing the American people.

The comments in this OP are based on the articles at the links below.

It is expected the conservatives' responses will be their typical BS, because they will ignore the facts at these links, choosing, as they always do, to selectively apply their double-standards.

Tenn. teen accidentally kills girlfriend with graduation present

Toddler reaches into purse and gun goes off, killing mom

Pro-gun Jamie Gilt is shot by her four-year-old son in Putnam County, Florida | Daily Mail Online

Incidents of toddlers shooting others or themselves increasing, data shows

US embassy in London directly contradicts Trump's Twitter attack on London's mayor

And the following link contradicts every reason and excuse offered up by Second Amendment fanatics and the NRA:

What Trump Doesn't Understand About Gun Control in Great Britain

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Before replying to just the title, read the OP, it's not what you think.

People of reason look upon gun deaths as tragic. But as we have often observed, that is not always the case with conservatives. They, more often than not, use the news report as an opportunity to push their agenda to deregulate gun sales, open carry, and their opposition to background checks.

However, in the past, I have been “reprimanded” by Second Amendment fanatics (the majority of which are conservatives) for “politicizing a tragedy” with OPs that have advocated sensible gun regulations.

But, after decades of the NRA pumping millions-of-dollars into political candidates’ campaigns who oppose common sense gun laws, how can gun deaths and the need for common sense gun regulations be anything but political?

For example, just a few days ago, an eighteen-year-old received a gun from his girlfriend’s father as a graduation present. The youth was considered experienced in handling fire arms. Unfortunately, within a short period of hours, while he treated the weapon like a toy, he shot and killed his girlfriend. An innocent victim of carelessness killed by a “responsible” gun owner.

As so often happens, we have another tragic gun death caused by an individual who was considered, by himself and those around him, responsible with guns. And Second Amendment fanatics still want guns in the hands of as many people as possible.

It is alarming the frequency of reports of responsible gun owners leaving their “toys” out in the open, fully loaded, for small children to find, and results in a death or serious injury. Like the news articles concerning women who have been shot with their own guns by their own small children. The innocent victims of carelessness here are the children. They will always remember they either killed or wounded their own mothers.

Incidents like those above happen with alarming regularity. Much, much more often that a good-guy-with-a-gun saves a life.

However, when it come to politicizing a tragedy, conservatives are selective in their criticism. They will defend the Big Orange Head’s politicizing of the London terror attack yesterday. Rather than show some class and humility and offer comfort and support, Big Orange used this attack to tout his travel ban, push the courts to reinstate it, and use a lie to condemn London’s mayor, once again embarrassing the American people.

The comments in this OP are based on the articles at the links below.

It is expected the conservatives' responses will be their typical BS, because they will ignore the facts at these links, choosing, as they always do, to selectively apply their double-standards.

Tenn. teen accidentally kills girlfriend with graduation present

Toddler reaches into purse and gun goes off, killing mom

Pro-gun Jamie Gilt is shot by her four-year-old son in Putnam County, Florida | Daily Mail Online

Incidents of toddlers shooting others or themselves increasing, data shows

US embassy in London directly contradicts Trump's Twitter attack on London's mayor

And the following link contradicts every reason and excuse offered up by Second Amendment fanatics and the NRA:

What Trump Doesn't Understand About Gun Control in Great Britain

________________________________________________________________________________________________________________


View attachment 131046


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When you start a sentence .. What Trump doesn't understand _________ the list is endless.
This was never the case with President Obama.
 
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Before replying to just the title, read the OP, it's not what you think.

People of reason look upon gun deaths as tragic. But as we have often observed, that is not always the case with conservatives. They, more often than not, use the news report as an opportunity to push their agenda to deregulate gun sales, open carry, and their opposition to background checks.

However, in the past, I have been “reprimanded” by Second Amendment fanatics (the majority of which are conservatives) for “politicizing a tragedy” with OPs that have advocated sensible gun regulations.

But, after decades of the NRA pumping millions-of-dollars into political candidates’ campaigns who oppose common sense gun laws, how can gun deaths and the need for common sense gun regulations be anything but political?

For example, just a few days ago, an eighteen-year-old received a gun from his girlfriend’s father as a graduation present. The youth was considered experienced in handling fire arms. Unfortunately, within a short period of hours, while he treated the weapon like a toy, he shot and killed his girlfriend. An innocent victim of carelessness killed by a “responsible” gun owner.

As so often happens, we have another tragic gun death caused by an individual who was considered, by himself and those around him, responsible with guns. And Second Amendment fanatics still want guns in the hands of as many people as possible.

It is alarming the frequency of reports of responsible gun owners leaving their “toys” out in the open, fully loaded, for small children to find, and results in a death or serious injury. Like the news articles concerning women who have been shot with their own guns by their own small children. The innocent victims of carelessness here are the children. They will always remember they either killed or wounded their own mothers.

Incidents like those above happen with alarming regularity. Much, much more often that a good-guy-with-a-gun saves a life.

However, when it come to politicizing a tragedy, conservatives are selective in their criticism. They will defend the Big Orange Head’s politicizing of the London terror attack yesterday. Rather than show some class and humility and offer comfort and support, Big Orange used this attack to tout his travel ban, push the courts to reinstate it, and use a lie to condemn London’s mayor, once again embarrassing the American people.

The comments in this OP are based on the articles at the links below.

It is expected the conservatives' responses will be their typical BS, because they will ignore the facts at these links, choosing, as they always do, to selectively apply their double-standards.

Tenn. teen accidentally kills girlfriend with graduation present

Toddler reaches into purse and gun goes off, killing mom

Pro-gun Jamie Gilt is shot by her four-year-old son in Putnam County, Florida | Daily Mail Online

Incidents of toddlers shooting others or themselves increasing, data shows

US embassy in London directly contradicts Trump's Twitter attack on London's mayor

And the following link contradicts every reason and excuse offered up by Second Amendment fanatics and the NRA:

What Trump Doesn't Understand About Gun Control in Great Britain

________________________________________________________________________________________________________________


View attachment 131046


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Lies as suspected. It was EXACTLY what I thought it would be.
 
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Before replying to just the title, read the OP, it's not what you think.

People of reason look upon gun deaths as tragic. But as we have often observed, that is not always the case with conservatives. They, more often than not, use the news report as an opportunity to push their agenda to deregulate gun sales, open carry, and their opposition to background checks.

However, in the past, I have been “reprimanded” by Second Amendment fanatics (the majority of which are conservatives) for “politicizing a tragedy” with OPs that have advocated sensible gun regulations.

But, after decades of the NRA pumping millions-of-dollars into political candidates’ campaigns who oppose common sense gun laws, how can gun deaths and the need for common sense gun regulations be anything but political?

For example, just a few days ago, an eighteen-year-old received a gun from his girlfriend’s father as a graduation present. The youth was considered experienced in handling fire arms. Unfortunately, within a short period of hours, while he treated the weapon like a toy, he shot and killed his girlfriend. An innocent victim of carelessness killed by a “responsible” gun owner.

As so often happens, we have another tragic gun death caused by an individual who was considered, by himself and those around him, responsible with guns. And Second Amendment fanatics still want guns in the hands of as many people as possible.

It is alarming the frequency of reports of responsible gun owners leaving their “toys” out in the open, fully loaded, for small children to find, and results in a death or serious injury. Like the news articles concerning women who have been shot with their own guns by their own small children. The innocent victims of carelessness here are the children. They will always remember they either killed or wounded their own mothers.

Incidents like those above happen with alarming regularity. Much, much more often that a good-guy-with-a-gun saves a life.

However, when it come to politicizing a tragedy, conservatives are selective in their criticism. They will defend the Big Orange Head’s politicizing of the London terror attack yesterday. Rather than show some class and humility and offer comfort and support, Big Orange used this attack to tout his travel ban, push the courts to reinstate it, and use a lie to condemn London’s mayor, once again embarrassing the American people.

The comments in this OP are based on the articles at the links below.

It is expected the conservatives' responses will be their typical BS, because they will ignore the facts at these links, choosing, as they always do, to selectively apply their double-standards.

Tenn. teen accidentally kills girlfriend with graduation present

Toddler reaches into purse and gun goes off, killing mom

Pro-gun Jamie Gilt is shot by her four-year-old son in Putnam County, Florida | Daily Mail Online

Incidents of toddlers shooting others or themselves increasing, data shows

US embassy in London directly contradicts Trump's Twitter attack on London's mayor

And the following link contradicts every reason and excuse offered up by Second Amendment fanatics and the NRA:

What Trump Doesn't Understand About Gun Control in Great Britain

________________________________________________________________________________________________________________


View attachment 131046


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When you start a sentence .. What Trump doesn't understand _________ the list is endless.
This was never the case with President Obama.
President Obama is a major reason that we now have president Trump.
 
When you start a sentence .. What Trump doesn't understand _________ the list is endless.
This was never the case with President Obama.

When you start a sentence with "What does Obama understand?" there is no list. He is nothing more than a creature of radical left-wing brainwashing.
 
Yeah, we had a local football star kill himself by driving too fast in the rain, supposedly a very bright guy, just proves shit happens even to intelligent people.


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Before replying to just the title, read the OP, it's not what you think.

People of reason look upon gun deaths as tragic. But as we have often observed, that is not always the case with conservatives. They, more often than not, use the news report as an opportunity to push their agenda to deregulate gun sales, open carry, and their opposition to background checks.

However, in the past, I have been “reprimanded” by Second Amendment fanatics (the majority of which are conservatives) for “politicizing a tragedy” with OPs that have advocated sensible gun regulations.

But, after decades of the NRA pumping millions-of-dollars into political candidates’ campaigns who oppose common sense gun laws, how can gun deaths and the need for common sense gun regulations be anything but political?

For example, just a few days ago, an eighteen-year-old received a gun from his girlfriend’s father as a graduation present. The youth was considered experienced in handling fire arms. Unfortunately, within a short period of hours, while he treated the weapon like a toy, he shot and killed his girlfriend. An innocent victim of carelessness killed by a “responsible” gun owner.

As so often happens, we have another tragic gun death caused by an individual who was considered, by himself and those around him, responsible with guns. And Second Amendment fanatics still want guns in the hands of as many people as possible.

It is alarming the frequency of reports of responsible gun owners leaving their “toys” out in the open, fully loaded, for small children to find, and results in a death or serious injury. Like the news articles concerning women who have been shot with their own guns by their own small children. The innocent victims of carelessness here are the children. They will always remember they either killed or wounded their own mothers.

Incidents like those above happen with alarming regularity. Much, much more often that a good-guy-with-a-gun saves a life.

However, when it come to politicizing a tragedy, conservatives are selective in their criticism. They will defend the Big Orange Head’s politicizing of the London terror attack yesterday. Rather than show some class and humility and offer comfort and support, Big Orange used this attack to tout his travel ban, push the courts to reinstate it, and use a lie to condemn London’s mayor, once again embarrassing the American people.

The comments in this OP are based on the articles at the links below.

It is expected the conservatives' responses will be their typical BS, because they will ignore the facts at these links, choosing, as they always do, to selectively apply their double-standards.

Tenn. teen accidentally kills girlfriend with graduation present

Toddler reaches into purse and gun goes off, killing mom

Pro-gun Jamie Gilt is shot by her four-year-old son in Putnam County, Florida | Daily Mail Online

Incidents of toddlers shooting others or themselves increasing, data shows

US embassy in London directly contradicts Trump's Twitter attack on London's mayor

And the following link contradicts every reason and excuse offered up by Second Amendment fanatics and the NRA:

What Trump Doesn't Understand About Gun Control in Great Britain

________________________________________________________________________________________________________________


View attachment 131046


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When you start a sentence .. What Trump doesn't understand _________ the list is endless.
This was never the case with President Obama.
President Obama is a major reason that we now have president Trump.

That is true, thanks to presidential term limits.
 
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Before replying to just the title, read the OP, it's not what you think.

People of reason look upon gun deaths as tragic. But as we have often observed, that is not always the case with conservatives. They, more often than not, use the news report as an opportunity to push their agenda to deregulate gun sales, open carry, and their opposition to background checks.

However, in the past, I have been “reprimanded” by Second Amendment fanatics (the majority of which are conservatives) for “politicizing a tragedy” with OPs that have advocated sensible gun regulations.

But, after decades of the NRA pumping millions-of-dollars into political candidates’ campaigns who oppose common sense gun laws, how can gun deaths and the need for common sense gun regulations be anything but political?

For example, just a few days ago, an eighteen-year-old received a gun from his girlfriend’s father as a graduation present. The youth was considered experienced in handling fire arms. Unfortunately, within a short period of hours, while he treated the weapon like a toy, he shot and killed his girlfriend. An innocent victim of carelessness killed by a “responsible” gun owner.

As so often happens, we have another tragic gun death caused by an individual who was considered, by himself and those around him, responsible with guns. And Second Amendment fanatics still want guns in the hands of as many people as possible.

It is alarming the frequency of reports of responsible gun owners leaving their “toys” out in the open, fully loaded, for small children to find, and results in a death or serious injury. Like the news articles concerning women who have been shot with their own guns by their own small children. The innocent victims of carelessness here are the children. They will always remember they either killed or wounded their own mothers.

Incidents like those above happen with alarming regularity. Much, much more often that a good-guy-with-a-gun saves a life.

However, when it come to politicizing a tragedy, conservatives are selective in their criticism. They will defend the Big Orange Head’s politicizing of the London terror attack yesterday. Rather than show some class and humility and offer comfort and support, Big Orange used this attack to tout his travel ban, push the courts to reinstate it, and use a lie to condemn London’s mayor, once again embarrassing the American people.

The comments in this OP are based on the articles at the links below.

It is expected the conservatives' responses will be their typical BS, because they will ignore the facts at these links, choosing, as they always do, to selectively apply their double-standards.

Tenn. teen accidentally kills girlfriend with graduation present

Toddler reaches into purse and gun goes off, killing mom

Pro-gun Jamie Gilt is shot by her four-year-old son in Putnam County, Florida | Daily Mail Online

Incidents of toddlers shooting others or themselves increasing, data shows

US embassy in London directly contradicts Trump's Twitter attack on London's mayor

And the following link contradicts every reason and excuse offered up by Second Amendment fanatics and the NRA:

What Trump Doesn't Understand About Gun Control in Great Britain

________________________________________________________________________________________________________________


View attachment 131046


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People of reason look upon gun deaths as tragic.

yes

Obama was one that loved to politicize gun deaths

Every time there was a gun death, he used it to try to increase regulations on owning,buying, and carrying a firearm
 
While painfully tragic, each of those incidences were not responsible gun ownership IMO

Completely right, but the right fought for each of them to have as many guns as they wanted right up until they killed someone. The term responsible gun owner wasn't accurately applied to all of those listed, was it?
 
So what is your point? (One sentence should be sufficient.)

His point is that he chooses to politicize gun tragedies to suit his agenda, hence the links in the OP, but doesn't want others to do it, duh.

Definition of hypocrite
  1. 1: a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion

  2. 2: a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings
 
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Before replying to just the title, read the OP, it's not what you think.

People of reason look upon gun deaths as tragic. But as we have often observed, that is not always the case with conservatives. They, more often than not, use the news report as an opportunity to push their agenda to deregulate gun sales, open carry, and their opposition to background checks.

However, in the past, I have been “reprimanded” by Second Amendment fanatics (the majority of which are conservatives) for “politicizing a tragedy” with OPs that have advocated sensible gun regulations.

But, after decades of the NRA pumping millions-of-dollars into political candidates’ campaigns who oppose common sense gun laws, how can gun deaths and the need for common sense gun regulations be anything but political?

For example, just a few days ago, an eighteen-year-old received a gun from his girlfriend’s father as a graduation present. The youth was considered experienced in handling fire arms. Unfortunately, within a short period of hours, while he treated the weapon like a toy, he shot and killed his girlfriend. An innocent victim of carelessness killed by a “responsible” gun owner.

As so often happens, we have another tragic gun death caused by an individual who was considered, by himself and those around him, responsible with guns. And Second Amendment fanatics still want guns in the hands of as many people as possible.

It is alarming the frequency of reports of responsible gun owners leaving their “toys” out in the open, fully loaded, for small children to find, and results in a death or serious injury. Like the news articles concerning women who have been shot with their own guns by their own small children. The innocent victims of carelessness here are the children. They will always remember they either killed or wounded their own mothers.

Incidents like those above happen with alarming regularity. Much, much more often that a good-guy-with-a-gun saves a life.

However, when it come to politicizing a tragedy, conservatives are selective in their criticism. They will defend the Big Orange Head’s politicizing of the London terror attack yesterday. Rather than show some class and humility and offer comfort and support, Big Orange used this attack to tout his travel ban, push the courts to reinstate it, and use a lie to condemn London’s mayor, once again embarrassing the American people.

The comments in this OP are based on the articles at the links below.

It is expected the conservatives' responses will be their typical BS, because they will ignore the facts at these links, choosing, as they always do, to selectively apply their double-standards.

Tenn. teen accidentally kills girlfriend with graduation present

Toddler reaches into purse and gun goes off, killing mom

Pro-gun Jamie Gilt is shot by her four-year-old son in Putnam County, Florida | Daily Mail Online

Incidents of toddlers shooting others or themselves increasing, data shows

US embassy in London directly contradicts Trump's Twitter attack on London's mayor

And the following link contradicts every reason and excuse offered up by Second Amendment fanatics and the NRA:

What Trump Doesn't Understand About Gun Control in Great Britain

________________________________________________________________________________________________________________


View attachment 131046


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When you start a sentence .. What Trump doesn't understand _________ the list is endless.
This was never the case with President Obama.
You had a hood rat for president for eight years I think that is enough.
 
So what is your point? (One sentence should be sufficient.)

His point is that he chooses to politicize gun tragedies to suit his agenda, hence the links in the OP, but doesn't want others to do it, duh.

Definition of hypocrite
  1. 1: a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion

  2. 2: a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

And an example of how some on this forum deflect and use a variety of tactics to avoid talking about reality.
 
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Before replying to just the title, read the OP, it's not what you think.

People of reason look upon gun deaths as tragic. But as we have often observed, that is not always the case with conservatives. They, more often than not, use the news report as an opportunity to push their agenda to deregulate gun sales, open carry, and their opposition to background checks.

However, in the past, I have been “reprimanded” by Second Amendment fanatics (the majority of which are conservatives) for “politicizing a tragedy” with OPs that have advocated sensible gun regulations.

But, after decades of the NRA pumping millions-of-dollars into political candidates’ campaigns who oppose common sense gun laws, how can gun deaths and the need for common sense gun regulations be anything but political?

For example, just a few days ago, an eighteen-year-old received a gun from his girlfriend’s father as a graduation present. The youth was considered experienced in handling fire arms. Unfortunately, within a short period of hours, while he treated the weapon like a toy, he shot and killed his girlfriend. An innocent victim of carelessness killed by a “responsible” gun owner.

As so often happens, we have another tragic gun death caused by an individual who was considered, by himself and those around him, responsible with guns. And Second Amendment fanatics still want guns in the hands of as many people as possible.

It is alarming the frequency of reports of responsible gun owners leaving their “toys” out in the open, fully loaded, for small children to find, and results in a death or serious injury. Like the news articles concerning women who have been shot with their own guns by their own small children. The innocent victims of carelessness here are the children. They will always remember they either killed or wounded their own mothers.

Incidents like those above happen with alarming regularity. Much, much more often that a good-guy-with-a-gun saves a life.

However, when it come to politicizing a tragedy, conservatives are selective in their criticism. They will defend the Big Orange Head’s politicizing of the London terror attack yesterday. Rather than show some class and humility and offer comfort and support, Big Orange used this attack to tout his travel ban, push the courts to reinstate it, and use a lie to condemn London’s mayor, once again embarrassing the American people.

The comments in this OP are based on the articles at the links below.

It is expected the conservatives' responses will be their typical BS, because they will ignore the facts at these links, choosing, as they always do, to selectively apply their double-standards.

Tenn. teen accidentally kills girlfriend with graduation present

Toddler reaches into purse and gun goes off, killing mom

Pro-gun Jamie Gilt is shot by her four-year-old son in Putnam County, Florida | Daily Mail Online

Incidents of toddlers shooting others or themselves increasing, data shows

US embassy in London directly contradicts Trump's Twitter attack on London's mayor

And the following link contradicts every reason and excuse offered up by Second Amendment fanatics and the NRA:

What Trump Doesn't Understand About Gun Control in Great Britain

________________________________________________________________________________________________________________


View attachment 131046


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People of reason look upon gun deaths as tragic.

yes

Obama was one that loved to politicize gun deaths

Every time there was a gun death, he used it to try to increase regulations on owning,buying, and carrying a firearm
Obama turned out to be a great for gun and ammo sales.
 

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