Is Polygamy The Next Gay Marriage?

[ricechickie]

Sell that line someplace else, sister.

The Sexual Revolution and Children: How the Left Took Things Too Far

Even a cursory review of the material revealed that the educational work at the Rote Freiheit ("Red Freedom") after-school center was unorthodox. The goal of the center was to shape the students into "socialist personalities," and its educational mission went well beyond supervised play. The center's agenda included "agitprop" on the situation in Vietnam and "street fighting," in which the children were divided into "students" and "cops."

The educators' notes indicate that they placed a very strong emphasis on sex education. Almost every day, the students played games that involved taking off their clothes, reading porno magazines together and pantomiming intercourse.

According to the records, a "sex exercise" was conducted on Dec. 11 and a "fucking hour" on Jan. 14. An entry made on Nov. 26 reads: "In general, by lying there we repeatedly provoked, openly or in a hidden way, sexual innuendoes, which were then expressed in pantomimes, which Kurt and Rita performed together on the low table (as a stage) in front of us."

The material introduced the broader public to a byproduct of the student movement for the first time: the sexual liberation of children.​

Go read up on the deep ties that NAMBLA had with liberals back in the 1970s.

Germany?

Germany????

I'm sorry, I thought you were an American citizen. Many pardons. How embarrassing, treating this discussion as one about American liberals.

Or maybe you should be embarrassed.

 

[Rikurzhen]

3. Part of me thinks live and let live. I think if you are going to make an argument about polygamy increasing violence in society and are going to point to sociological data supporting this claim, you would also need to point to sociological data that highlight loose gun laws and gun ownership also lead to more violence in society. Also, things like higher religiosity and higher income inequality lead to more violence

When you disaggregate race from the data, American whites have about the same level of firearm homicide as Finland, despite far higher levels of firearm ownership. Race is the confounding variable in the firearms debate and it totally skews our understanding of what is happeneing.

. I don't mean this to sound like I don't buy the findings above, and the studies findings don't really surprise me.

Right, because if you understand human group dynamics, the bailiwick of sociologists, then the separate dynamics in play and their linkages make sense.

 

[Rikurzhen]

Sell that line someplace else, sister.

The Sexual Revolution and Children: How the Left Took Things Too Far

Even a cursory review of the material revealed that the educational work at the Rote Freiheit ("Red Freedom") after-school center was unorthodox. The goal of the center was to shape the students into "socialist personalities," and its educational mission went well beyond supervised play. The center's agenda included "agitprop" on the situation in Vietnam and "street fighting," in which the children were divided into "students" and "cops."

The educators' notes indicate that they placed a very strong emphasis on sex education. Almost every day, the students played games that involved taking off their clothes, reading porno magazines together and pantomiming intercourse.

According to the records, a "sex exercise" was conducted on Dec. 11 and a "fucking hour" on Jan. 14. An entry made on Nov. 26 reads: "In general, by lying there we repeatedly provoked, openly or in a hidden way, sexual innuendoes, which were then expressed in pantomimes, which Kurt and Rita performed together on the low table (as a stage) in front of us."

The material introduced the broader public to a byproduct of the student movement for the first time: the sexual liberation of children.​

Go read up on the deep ties that NAMBLA had with liberals back in the 1970s.

Germany?

Germany????

I'm sorry, I thought you were an American citizen. Many pardons. How embarrassing, treating this discussion as one about American liberals.

Or maybe you should be embarrassed.

The liberal mindset is universal. This article talks about what the Left was doing in Germany. Over here we had the North American Man Boy Love Association at the forefront of revolution and who knows what else that hasn't been pushed into the public consciousness. Liberals were the driving force behind eugenics, behind lowering the age of consent, behind wife swapping, etc.

 

[ricechickie]

The liberal mindset is universal. This article talks about what the Left was doing in Germany. Over here we had the North American Man Boy Love Association at the forefront of revolution and who knows what else that hasn't been pushed into the public consciousness. Liberals were the driving force behind eugenics, behind lowering the age of consent, behind wife swapping, etc.

You are being ridiculous.

If you want to play that way, I can certainly start comparing conservatives to Nazis and fascists.

But let's not be stupid instead.

 

[Rikurzhen]

The liberal mindset is universal. This article talks about what the Left was doing in Germany. Over here we had the North American Man Boy Love Association at the forefront of revolution and who knows what else that hasn't been pushed into the public consciousness. Liberals were the driving force behind eugenics, behind lowering the age of consent, behind wife swapping, etc.

You are being ridiculous.

If you want to play that way, I can certainly start comparing conservatives to Nazis and fascists.

But let's not be stupid instead.

Why would you compare conservatives to socialists? That doesn't even make sense.

You think wife swapping was a fad that started in the church movement or at the Republican precinct meetings? Do you really doubt that liberals were behind the loosening social mores, that they were the ones who fought to destigmatize premarital sex and out of wedlock birth, etc. Why would you imagine that conservatives were the driving force behind that?

 

[ricechickie]

I can see that you won't take the suggestion to not be stupid.

The changing of sexual morals can be laid at the door of liberals, you're right.

Instead of doing these things (premarital and extramarital sex) and being hypocrites about it, like conservatives, liberals decided that sexuality was something that was normal, and should be explored safely and honestly.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Polygamy is irrelevant as to whether or not same-sex couples should be allowed to marry. I am sure there were a few racists who made the argument "allow interracial marriage!? That will just lead to polygamy!"

false analogy. it will be false no matter how many times you lefties try it. Race and sexual orientation are not the same thing.

give us case law, counselor

hint: doesn't exist

 

[Pop23]

So many REAL problems face our nation. Why do we always bog ourselves down with these stupid social issues?

Americans being denied their civil liberties is a real problem.

Gays have never been denied the right to marry

They haven't been denied the right to marry who YOU want them to marry

Lies lies lies.

Anyone ever that proposed, and were turned down could easily make that claim

 

[rdean]

The right wing thinks children and grown men are just like two gays.

Remember, with so many boys being born, they have to go somewhere. Does anyone know where they go? They certainly don't stay there and not that many are gay.

 

[JakeStarkey]

There was no deep ties as such.

NAMBLA tried to infiltrate APA, but eventually failed, as the TPM and libertarians tried to take over the GOP and failed.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I see Pop is back with his generalisms.

 

[ShackledNation]

So many REAL problems face our nation. Why do we always bog ourselves down with these stupid social issues?

Americans being denied their civil liberties is a real problem.

Gays have never been denied the right to marry

They haven't been denied the right to marry who YOU want them to marry

Lies lies lies.

Anyone ever that proposed, and were turned down could easily make that claim

No they couldn't. Nobody has a right to force someone to marry them. That is not what "the right to marry" means at all. Your dishonesty/ignorance is showing.

 

[Pop23]

Why would anyone oppose polygamy?

Ask the United States government who sent the military into the Utah territory to end it.

 

[Pop23]

I see Pop is back with his generalisms.

And Jake back to being silly

If it walks like a duck......

 

[Pop23]

So many REAL problems face our nation. Why do we always bog ourselves down with these stupid social issues?

Americans being denied their civil liberties is a real problem.

Gays have never been denied the right to marry

They haven't been denied the right to marry who YOU want them to marry

Lies lies lies.

Anyone ever that proposed, and were turned down could easily make that claim

No they couldn't. Nobody has a right to force someone to marry them. That is not what "the right to marry" means at all. Your dishonesty/ignorance is showing.

Guess you were wrong

Would take far fewer words just to admit the mistake

 

[Rikurzhen]

I can see that you won't take the suggestion to not be stupid.

The changing of sexual morals can be laid at the door of liberals, you're right.

Instead of doing these things (premarital and extramarital sex) and being hypocrites about it, like conservatives, liberals decided that sexuality was something that was normal, and should be explored safely and honestly.

Sexuality is one of the most powerful behaviors in the human repertoire. Look at the outcomes from that UBC study.

Heck, look at the outcomes in the black community after white liberals loosened the restraints on sexuality. 72% of births are to unwed mothers.

The wreckage of unrestrained sexuality is felt far and wide. If I was a liberal I sure wouldn't be taking a bow for what I'd done to the black community.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Pop23 is dishonest as they come.

 

[ShackledNation]

So many REAL problems face our nation. Why do we always bog ourselves down with these stupid social issues?

Americans being denied their civil liberties is a real problem.

Gays have never been denied the right to marry

They haven't been denied the right to marry who YOU want them to marry

Lies lies lies.

Anyone ever that proposed, and were turned down could easily make that claim

No they couldn't. Nobody has a right to force someone to marry them. That is not what "the right to marry" means at all. Your dishonesty/ignorance is showing.

Guess you were wrong

Would take far fewer words just to admit the mistake

Nope. Someone saying "no" to a marriage proposal is not the same as being denied the right to marry. Only the government can deny that right. And gays have been denied the right to marry, unless you have been living under a rock for your whole life.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I can see that you won't take the suggestion to not be stupid.

The changing of sexual morals can be laid at the door of liberals, you're right.

Instead of doing these things (premarital and extramarital sex) and being hypocrites about it, like conservatives, liberals decided that sexuality was something that was normal, and should be explored safely and honestly.

Sexuality is one of the most powerful behaviors in the human repertoire. Look at the outcomes from that UBC study.

Heck, look at the outcomes in the black community after white liberals loosened the restraints on sexuality. 72% of births are to unwed mothers.

The wreckage of unrestrained sexuality is felt far and wide. If I was a liberal I sure wouldn't be taking a bow for what I'd done to the black community.

And here comes the racism; I knew you could or would not resist. Just plain stupid.

The sexual brutalization of women of color began centuries ago by British and colonial conservative slave owners.

 

[percysunshine]

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If I decide to marry my laptop computer, because we get along so well, who will represent my interests when we get divorced because the lap top no longer fulfills my needs? Are Microsoft lawyers going to take the side of the computer?

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