CDZ Is the Climate changing?

[Michael1985]

Yes, it is. It is partly due to natural forces and partly due to human activity.

 

[jc456]

Yes, it is. It is partly due to natural forces and partly due to human activity

What human activity can you prove?

 

[ChemEngineer]

Yes, it is. It is partly due to natural forces and partly due to human activity.

Humans have nothing to do with climate.

The contrived graphs, such as the Keeling Curve, are intentionally manipulated in a pretense of scientism. Disgraceful.
This is what I call The Scary Graph ! OOOOOO!

In fact, water vapor is THE dominant greenhouse gas:

Water vapor absorbs infrared radiation more than does carbon dioxide:

There are thousands of papers, videos, books, and lectures documenting the fraudulent nature of what Global Warming Panickers call "science." They present fabrications to promote socialist control. They even admit it. See here:

theglobalwarmingfraud

TheGlobalWarmingFraud.wordpress.com

 

[Concerned American]

I for one believe that it is. I've believed this for a long time, but I found that a documentary called "An Inconvenient Truth", which features for Vice President Al Gore prominently, was very persuasive. I know there are those who believe that the Climate isn't changing as well, including some people like James Corbett, who I respect immensely for his work on other subjects, but we simply don't agree when it comes to climate. Recently, a poster in another thread of mine expressed his belief that the climate isn't changing so I thought it might be good to create this thread and see where it goes. I ask that people support any assertions that haven't already been made by another poster with at least one link.

Here is a good example. If you have a colony of bees in a hive, they thrive. When the colony gets to big, the bees swarm and become two hives. If they were to remain in one hive, the hive would become too warm and all would die. We have reached critical mass in this world. In the last 60 years, our population has more than doubled with the extra heat generated by the populace, the livestock that it takes to feed them and the doubled usage of limited water coupled with the destruction of the larger CO2 sinks, i.e. rain forests, we have all but destroyed this planet. To think that you are going to impact that with a few emissions laws in ONE country is naive. The answer lies in mandatory global one-child birth control and immediate restoration of the rain forests. Accomplishing these would address the climate problem. Unfortunately, Bill Gates and the liberal globalists would have you believe the answer lies in controlling emissions while foisting the largest depopulation scam ever known to man on the world's populace.

 

[ChemEngineer]

Critical mass your ass.
Every human alive on the planet today could theoretically be placed into a cube one mile on side.
Proof:
5,280 feet cubed is 127 billion cubic feet.
This provides about 18 cubic feet for every person on the planet.
If all the environmentalist wackos would practice what they preach, that would be swell. Wouldn't change anything but......

 

[Concerned American]

Critical mass your ass.
Every human alive on the planet today could theoretically be placed into a cube one mile on side.
Proof:
5,280 feet cubed is 127 billion cubic feet.
This provides about 18 cubic feet for every person on the planet.
If all the environmentalist wackos would practice what they preach, that would be swell. Wouldn't change anything but......

That is the most ignorant thing that I have read on this board. You fail to take into account oceans, deserts and arctic areas that are not conducive to human habitation or cultivation. Your simplistic "theory" is nonsense.

 

[jc456]

ChemEngineer outstanding

 

[jc456]

Critical mass your ass.
Every human alive on the planet today could theoretically be placed into a cube one mile on side.
Proof:
5,280 feet cubed is 127 billion cubic feet.
This provides about 18 cubic feet for every person on the planet.
If all the environmentalist wackos would practice what they preach, that would be swell. Wouldn't change anything but......

That is the most ignorant thing that I have read on this board. You fail to take into account oceans, deserts and arctic areas that are not conducive to human habitation or cultivation. Your simplistic "theory" is nonsense.

nope, even with the area that exists for human life. In fact, I believe I read the entire globe could fit inside of Texas. I'll apologize if I remember that incorrectly.

Could the World’s Population Fit into One U.S. State?

If you are concerned that humanity is outgrowing the available space on this planet, you can relax. As it turns out, there is a lot more room available than you might otherwise think.

commonplacefacts.wordpress.com

 

[ReinyDays]

I for one believe that it is. I've believed this for a long time, but I found that a documentary called "An Inconvenient Truth", which features for Vice President Al Gore prominently, was very persuasive. I know there are those who believe that the Climate isn't changing as well, including some people like James Corbett, who I respect immensely for his work on other subjects, but we simply don't agree when it comes to climate. Recently, a poster in another thread of mine expressed his belief that the climate isn't changing so I thought it might be good to create this thread and see where it goes. I ask that people support any assertions that haven't already been made by another poster with at least one link.

Here is a good example. If you have a colony of bees in a hive, they thrive. When the colony gets to big, the bees swarm and become two hives. If they were to remain in one hive, the hive would become too warm and all would die. We have reached critical mass in this world. In the last 60 years, our population has more than doubled with the extra heat generated by the populace, the livestock that it takes to feed them and the doubled usage of limited water coupled with the destruction of the larger CO2 sinks, i.e. rain forests, we have all but destroyed this planet. To think that you are going to impact that with a few emissions laws in ONE country is naive. The answer lies in mandatory global one-child birth control and immediate restoration of the rain forests. Accomplishing these would address the climate problem. Unfortunately, Bill Gates and the liberal globalists would have you believe the answer lies in controlling emissions while foisting the largest depopulation scam ever known to man on the world's populace.

The answer lies in mandatory global one-child birth control and immediate restoration of the rain forests.

Many societies today still rely on the children caring for their elderly parents, there no such thing as pension plans or retirement savings ... China has this problem right now, the fertility rate there is below replacement, but each son has to care for his and his wife's parents ... better to have had a dozen children so that each child has a smaller burden providing for their parents ...

Alternately ... it seems fossil fuel intensive affluence also reduces fertility rates ... stable governments allow for money to be saved back, and then used when the parents are too old to work ... thus it makes financial sense to limit the number of children, just one or none works fine ...

It's very disingenuous to demand the rain forests to be restored ... just some rich slob picking on the poor ... the East China Plain, all of Europe, the eastern half of North America ... all forestlands ... the Indiana farmer has to plow his fields every year to keep the forest from growing back ... why would you want The Congo or Amazonia starve and die just so you can eat 6 serving of meat every day ... almost all that corn grow in the American Midwest is fed to cows, pigs and chickens ...

Shame on you ... you own and operate a passenger vehicle ... that makes you a hypocrite ... or stupid ... burning coal to post on the internet about the dangers of burning coal ... just laughable ...

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If you believe in all that evolution stuff ... then you believe Homo sapiens are a part of the environment ... we do need to be careful, but it is our niche to fill ... cyanobacteria isn't controlling their own populations, so we do ... besides, there will always be a prey species that tastes the worst ... we should expect their populations to be very large, in spite being a pathetic excuse for a hairless semi-evolved rodent ... simple population dynamics ...

Hey ... ChemEngineer ... 18 cubic feet? ... I like National Geographic's analogy: Los Angeles County, California is about 11 billion sq meters ... that's elbow room for everyone in the world ...

 

[BS Filter]

The climate is always changing. Duh!

 

[ChemEngineer]

Critical mass your ass.
Every human alive on the planet today could theoretically be placed into a cube one mile on side.
Proof:
5,280 feet cubed is 127 billion cubic feet.
This provides about 18 cubic feet for every person on the planet.
If all the environmentalist wackos would practice what they preach, that would be swell. Wouldn't change anything but......

That is the most ignorant thing that I have read on this board. You fail to take into account oceans, deserts and arctic areas that are not conducive to human habitation or cultivation. Your simplistic "theory" is nonsense.

1. The geography of earth is immaterial to the total volume of all humans alive today.
If you do not understand that, ask someone to explain it to you.
2. I made no mention of habitation or cultivation. Those are YOUR words. YOU put YOUR words in my mouth and then condemn me for your misrepresentations. Typical of a Leftist.

One of my websites describes Leftists such as you:

Democrat Insanity - Trump Derangement Syndrome

DemocratInsanity.blogspot.com

 

[Flopper]

The climate is always changing. Duh!

Weather is always changing because it reflects short-term conditions of the atmosphere. Climate change refers to long-term changes that occurs over centuries, millenniums, and millions of years.

Climate change” and “global warming” are often used interchangeably but have distinct meanings. Global warming is the long-term heating of Earth’s climate system observed since the pre-industrial period (between 1850 and 1900).

 

[BS Filter]

The climate is always changing. Duh!

Weather is always changing because it reflects short-term conditions of the atmosphere. Climate change refers to long-term changes that occurs over centuries, millenniums, and millions of years.

Climate change” and “global warming” are often used interchangeably but have distinct meanings. Global warming is the long-term heating of Earth’s climate system observed since the pre-industrial period (between 1850 and 1900).

Man isn't the cause of global warming. It's a hoax.

 

[jc456]

The climate is always changing. Duh!

Weather is always changing because it reflects short-term conditions of the atmosphere. Climate change refers to long-term changes that occurs over centuries, millenniums, and millions of years.

Climate change” and “global warming” are often used interchangeably but have distinct meanings. Global warming is the long-term heating of Earth’s climate system observed since the pre-industrial period (between 1850 and 1900).

So how is a weather event affecting climate?

 

[BS Filter]

The climate is always changing. Duh!

Weather is always changing because it reflects short-term conditions of the atmosphere. Climate change refers to long-term changes that occurs over centuries, millenniums, and millions of years.

Climate change” and “global warming” are often used interchangeably but have distinct meanings. Global warming is the long-term heating of Earth’s climate system observed since the pre-industrial period (between 1850 and 1900).

So how is a weather event affecting climate?

Weather doesn't affect climate. Climate affects the weather.

 

[jc456]

The climate is always changing. Duh!

Weather is always changing because it reflects short-term conditions of the atmosphere. Climate change refers to long-term changes that occurs over centuries, millenniums, and millions of years.

Climate change” and “global warming” are often used interchangeably but have distinct meanings. Global warming is the long-term heating of Earth’s climate system observed since the pre-industrial period (between 1850 and 1900).

So how is a weather event affecting climate?

Weather doesn't affect climate. Climate affects the weather.

I was hoping he could explain how one hot day means a climate has changed. That's all.

 

[Concerned American]

The climate is always changing. Duh!

Weather is always changing because it reflects short-term conditions of the atmosphere. Climate change refers to long-term changes that occurs over centuries, millenniums, and millions of years.

Climate change” and “global warming” are often used interchangeably but have distinct meanings. Global warming is the long-term heating of Earth’s climate system observed since the pre-industrial period (between 1850 and 1900).

So how is a weather event affecting climate?

Weather doesn't affect climate. Climate affects the weather.

Or as they say in Grants Pass

 

[jc456]

For one thing, if you knew anything about me, you would know I am NO FUCKING LEFTIST. There hasn't been a president that has been conservative enough for me in my lifetime. Second, Just because you can cram 50 human beings into an oil drum doesn't mean it will support their life. Geeez, what a moron thing to say. I didn't put any words in your mouth. Fuck off you self agrandizing piece of shit.

well, your behavior at this moment is much like a demofk. You're treading on thin ice. you're wrong. And a demofk would never admit being wrong. A conservative is an honorable person, and as such concedes an argument they lost. And you lost this one.

 

[Concerned American]

For one thing, if you knew anything about me, you would know I am NO FUCKING LEFTIST. There hasn't been a president that has been conservative enough for me in my lifetime. Second, Just because you can cram 50 human beings into an oil drum doesn't mean it will support their life. Geeez, what a moron thing to say. I didn't put any words in your mouth. Fuck off you self agrandizing piece of shit.

well, your behavior at this moment is much like a demofk. You're treading on thin ice. you're wrong. And a demofk would never admit being wrong. A conservative is an honorable person, and as such concedes an argument they lost. And you lost this one.

Wait a minute, now you people are putting words in my mouth. The only point I was making was that the doubling of the population of the world means there are more people competing for the same finite limited resources. Are you claiming that we have somehow produced more water on this planet? I agree there is plenty if it is used correctly, and I outlined a couple of ways that could be done i.e. desalination. I also explained that because of the increased population we have to have more tillable land and range area for livestock. Do you deny that as well? I like my beef and I don't like these morons trying to force a plant based diet on me. You put all of these things together and yeah, there is a need for study and changes. The wise ass Chem Engineer seems to think you just keep cramming more people into the barrel and refuse to adapt and everything is going to be hunky dory. SMH.

 

[Flopper]

The climate is always changing. Duh!

Weather is always changing because it reflects short-term conditions of the atmosphere. Climate change refers to long-term changes that occurs over centuries, millenniums, and millions of years.

Climate change” and “global warming” are often used interchangeably but have distinct meanings. Global warming is the long-term heating of Earth’s climate system observed since the pre-industrial period (between 1850 and 1900).

So how is a weather event affecting climate?

It takes many many single events to effect the climate . A one year rise in global temperature doesn't mean much but when those yearly global temperature create a rising rising trend over decades, we should paying attention.