Is The President of the United States Above The Law?

[WEATHER53]

Not above it but afforded the protections of it. Sorry libbie children, it’s not a one way street.

 

[Flash]

That asshole Obama sure as hell thought he was above the law. So did Crooked Hillary and that scumbag husband of hers.

Joe Biden and that clown John Kerry are sure having a go at disregarding the law, aren't they?

 

[Wry Catcher]

Yes there must be treason or a crime committed for impeachment.

What constitutes a high crime or misdemeanor is entirely up to the House. I'm not sure how many times this has to be said. The House has sole power to impeach. If the House wants to impeach the President because of a bad hairdo, they can.

You must have the Constitution of some other country, mine says "High crimes and misdemeanors"

Your Constitution also says the House has sole power of impeachment. So please, other than the House, who has the authority to define high crimes and misdemeanors?

Yeah...who has the authority to define the "people"? Can cats and dogs be deemed "the People"?

That doesn't answer my question. Who, outside the House, can define high crimes and misdemeanors?

First of all it was a stupid question, one which Frank excels in.

Your question is significant, and the only answer can be inferred in Art II, sec. 4:

"The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors"

High Crimes are felonies, and I have no doubt that Obstruction of Justice [18 U.S. Code s/s 1512] is a Felony:

(b)Whoever knowingly uses intimidation, threatens, or corruptly persuades another person, or attempts to do so, or engages in misleading conduct toward another person, with intent to -

(1) influence, delay, or prevent the testimony of any person in an official proceeding;
(2) cause or induce any person to -

(A) withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object, from an official proceeding;
(C) evade legal process summoning that person to appear as a witness, or to produce a record, document, or other object, in an official proceeding
​

shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

Seem as if this applies to Trump, Pence and Pompeo, along with Rudy and other legal representatives who advise Trump, Pence, Pompeo and Rudy to break the law.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What constitutes a high crime or misdemeanor is entirely up to the House. I'm not sure how many times this has to be said. The House has sole power to impeach. If the House wants to impeach the President because of a bad hairdo, they can.

You must have the Constitution of some other country, mine says "High crimes and misdemeanors"

Your Constitution also says the House has sole power of impeachment. So please, other than the House, who has the authority to define high crimes and misdemeanors?

Yeah...who has the authority to define the "people"? Can cats and dogs be deemed "the People"?

That doesn't answer my question. Who, outside the House, can define high crimes and misdemeanors?

First of all it was a stupid question, one which Frank excels in.

Your question is significant, and the only answer can be inferred in Art II, sec. 4:

"The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors"

High Crimes are felonies, and I have no doubt that Obstruction of Justice [18 U.S. Code s/s 1512] is a Felony:

(b)Whoever knowingly uses intimidation, threatens, or corruptly persuades another person, or attempts to do so, or engages in misleading conduct toward another person, with intent to -

(1) influence, delay, or prevent the testimony of any person in an official proceeding;
(2) cause or induce any person to -

(A) withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object, from an official proceeding;
(C) withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object, from an official proceeding;​

shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

Seem as if this applies to Trump, Pence and Pompeo, along with Rudy and other legal representatives who advise Trump, Pence, Pompeo and Rudy to break the law.

Where did Trump "obstruct" anything?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Your question is significant, and the only answer can be inferred in Art II, sec. 4:
"The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors"
High Crimes are felonies, and I have no doubt that Obstruction of Justice [18 U.S. Code s/s 1512] is a Felony:

If so, why wasn't Clinton removed from office?
If obstruction wasn't an impeachable offense in 1998, why would it be in 2019?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Where did Trump "obstruct" anything?

You apparently missed the 2016 election results.

 

[Wry Catcher]

You must have the Constitution of some other country, mine says "High crimes and misdemeanors"

Your Constitution also says the House has sole power of impeachment. So please, other than the House, who has the authority to define high crimes and misdemeanors?

Yeah...who has the authority to define the "people"? Can cats and dogs be deemed "the People"?

That doesn't answer my question. Who, outside the House, can define high crimes and misdemeanors?

First of all it was a stupid question, one which Frank excels in.

Your question is significant, and the only answer can be inferred in Art II, sec. 4:

"The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors"

High Crimes are felonies, and I have no doubt that Obstruction of Justice [18 U.S. Code s/s 1512] is a Felony:

(b)Whoever knowingly uses intimidation, threatens, or corruptly persuades another person, or attempts to do so, or engages in misleading conduct toward another person, with intent to -

(1) influence, delay, or prevent the testimony of any person in an official proceeding;
(2) cause or induce any person to -

(A) withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object, from an official proceeding;
(C) withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object, from an official proceeding;​

shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

Seem as if this applies to Trump, Pence and Pompeo, along with Rudy and other legal representatives who advise Trump, Pence, Pompeo and Rudy to break the law.

Where did Trump "obstruct" anything?

Today, or last night, when he told the EU Ambassador to not appear before the Congressional Committee.

See my post #143 which you not so cleverly tried to cover with a foolish comment.

 

[jc456]

YES or NO

Explain and cite any authority if you believe a President of the United States is above the law.

yes, he actually is, any president has executive privilege. why is it you all don't know that? can't you look shit up on a web page and see it? really are you showing your true dumbness? rhetorical, I get it.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Today, or last night, when he told the EU Ambassador to not appear before the Congressional Committee.

Did he intimidate, threaten, or corruptly persuade the EU ambassador to not testify?
No?
Then there's no obstruction.

 

[jc456]

No. Neither is the House of Representatives superior to the Executive Branch.

well actually, a president has executive privilege, the only person in the country, and therefore he is indeed above the law. Let's just call a spade a spade.Actually, the speaker of the house is the next one that has that honor after the president. But the FBI or CIA don't, nor does any intelligence agency.

 

[miketx]

For the others trump supporters who choose to ignore a simple question, admit you believe Trump is above the law and make up some reason. It's not an honest response, but no one expects honesty from a trump supporter.

First, you won't accept honesty, second, you are dishonest.

 

[M14 Shooter]

For the others trump supporters who choose to ignore a simple question, admit you believe Trump is above the law and make up some reason. It's not an honest response, but no one expects honesty from a trump supporter.

First, you won't accept honesty, second, you are dishonest.

As proven by the fact he has failed to address every post that undermines his position.

 

[jc456]

Yes because otherwise he wouldn't be able to do his job. How could the President run the country if he is tied up in court?
That is why the founders set up impeachment.

Could the president shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and not be prosecuted?

Could the president use his personal properties as federal grounds for profit?

Could the president use the powers of his office for personal financial gain?

What laws, in your mind, do not apply to a president? Murder? Theft? Extortion? Bribery?

The answer to all of that is... yes. Now, once the President leaves office he becomes a private citizen and subject to all of that. So if the statute of limitations hasn't run, then he can be prosecuted. Until then, the only thing that can impact him is impeachment and conviction in the Senate.

Wrong. There is nothing in COTUS, nor in The US Code that the President of the United States cannot be indicted and tried for any felony or misdemeanor. The only mention is the memo noted above, and until the Supreme Court rules what you claim, there is no legal reason to not bring a sitting President before a Grand Jury.

Let me know when SCOTUS does that.

Oh, you'll know. If the Supreme Court gives a sitting President an absolute immunity chaos will reign in every court house in America.

it's called EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE fk learn something. fking ignoramus.

 

[Wry Catcher]

YES or NO

Explain and cite any authority if you believe a President of the United States is above the law.

yes, he actually is, any president has executive privilege. why is it you all don't know that? can't you look shit up on a web page and see it? really are you showing your true dumbness? rhetorical, I get it.

You're suggesting that any POTUS has executive privilege allowing him to obstruct justice. Is that your claim? Are you taking clues from Rudy?

 

[jc456]

YES or NO

Explain and cite any authority if you believe a President of the United States is above the law.

yes, he actually is, any president has executive privilege. why is it you all don't know that? can't you look shit up on a web page and see it? really are you showing your true dumbness? rhetorical, I get it.

You're suggesting that any POTUS has executive privilege allowing him to obstruct justice. Is that your claim? Are you taking clues from Rudy?

how did he obstruct justice? explain what obstruction you're referring to. See with executive privilege he can refuse to have staff testify. It's in the law. fk. you still don't get it eh?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Your Constitution also says the House has sole power of impeachment. So please, other than the House, who has the authority to define high crimes and misdemeanors?

Yeah...who has the authority to define the "people"? Can cats and dogs be deemed "the People"?

That doesn't answer my question. Who, outside the House, can define high crimes and misdemeanors?

First of all it was a stupid question, one which Frank excels in.

Your question is significant, and the only answer can be inferred in Art II, sec. 4:

"The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors"

High Crimes are felonies, and I have no doubt that Obstruction of Justice [18 U.S. Code s/s 1512] is a Felony:

(b)Whoever knowingly uses intimidation, threatens, or corruptly persuades another person, or attempts to do so, or engages in misleading conduct toward another person, with intent to -

(1) influence, delay, or prevent the testimony of any person in an official proceeding;
(2) cause or induce any person to -

(A) withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object, from an official proceeding;
(C) withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object, from an official proceeding;​

shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

Seem as if this applies to Trump, Pence and Pompeo, along with Rudy and other legal representatives who advise Trump, Pence, Pompeo and Rudy to break the law.

Where did Trump "obstruct" anything?

Today, or last night, when he told the EU Ambassador to not appear before the Congressional Committee.

See my post #143 which you not so cleverly tried to cover with a foolish comment.

He's POTUS, he's allowed to do that!

The won't even take an honest up and down vote on "Impeachment"

 

[jc456]

Yeah...who has the authority to define the "people"? Can cats and dogs be deemed "the People"?

That doesn't answer my question. Who, outside the House, can define high crimes and misdemeanors?

First of all it was a stupid question, one which Frank excels in.

Your question is significant, and the only answer can be inferred in Art II, sec. 4:

"The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors"

High Crimes are felonies, and I have no doubt that Obstruction of Justice [18 U.S. Code s/s 1512] is a Felony:

(b)Whoever knowingly uses intimidation, threatens, or corruptly persuades another person, or attempts to do so, or engages in misleading conduct toward another person, with intent to -

(1) influence, delay, or prevent the testimony of any person in an official proceeding;
(2) cause or induce any person to -

(A) withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object, from an official proceeding;
(C) withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object, from an official proceeding;​

shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

Seem as if this applies to Trump, Pence and Pompeo, along with Rudy and other legal representatives who advise Trump, Pence, Pompeo and Rudy to break the law.

Where did Trump "obstruct" anything?

Today, or last night, when he told the EU Ambassador to not appear before the Congressional Committee.

See my post #143 which you not so cleverly tried to cover with a foolish comment.

He's POTUS, he's allowed to do that!

The won't even take an honest up and down vote on "Impeachment"

which is the law. funny, this stupid fk is asking if the POTUS is above the law on a request that is being made from a person acting like she's above the law. too fking ironic for me.

 

[Correll]

For the others trump supporters who choose to ignore a simple question, admit you believe Trump is above the law and make up some reason. It's not an honest response, but no one expects honesty from a trump supporter.

Would you support impeachment, if you knew the charges to be false?

 

[M14 Shooter]

For the others trump supporters who choose to ignore a simple question, admit you believe Trump is above the law and make up some reason. It's not an honest response, but no one expects honesty from a trump supporter.

Would you support impeachment, if you knew the charges to be false?

Of a Republican?
You bet your ass he would - the ends justify the means.

 

[Wry Catcher]

That doesn't answer my question. Who, outside the House, can define high crimes and misdemeanors?

First of all it was a stupid question, one which Frank excels in.

Your question is significant, and the only answer can be inferred in Art II, sec. 4:

"The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors"

High Crimes are felonies, and I have no doubt that Obstruction of Justice [18 U.S. Code s/s 1512] is a Felony:

(b)Whoever knowingly uses intimidation, threatens, or corruptly persuades another person, or attempts to do so, or engages in misleading conduct toward another person, with intent to -

(1) influence, delay, or prevent the testimony of any person in an official proceeding;
(2) cause or induce any person to -

(A) withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object, from an official proceeding;
(C) withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object, from an official proceeding;​

shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

Seem as if this applies to Trump, Pence and Pompeo, along with Rudy and other legal representatives who advise Trump, Pence, Pompeo and Rudy to break the law.

Where did Trump "obstruct" anything?

Today, or last night, when he told the EU Ambassador to not appear before the Congressional Committee.

See my post #143 which you not so cleverly tried to cover with a foolish comment.

He's POTUS, he's allowed to do that!

The won't even take an honest up and down vote on "Impeachment"

which is the law. funny, this stupid fk is asking if the POTUS is above the law on a request that is being made from a person acting like she's above the law. too fking ironic for me.

You two clowns don't have a clue about the law. Or to take what is happening now seriously.