Is this message board always so short on liberals?

[initforme]

I think a growing number of voters are tired of rich wealthy men calling the shots. They don't cannot relate to the average worker. There is a huge disconnect. And that goes to both major parties

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Or is the current administration and congress so difficult to defend that the liberals are waiting for the GOP to win, so they can go back to being the vocal critics?

Nothing wrong with that, I'm just wondering. I like it when liberals defend the indefensible.

Mods, if this should be in feedback, feel free to move it. It's a question about the board combined with politics, so I thought if I put it in feedback, it might get moved here.

I've been to other forums throughout the years and it's pretty much this way in all of them. Leftists are not that big into politics; they don't know enough about it.

It's why leftist talk radio was a failure, NPR and PBS depend on federal tax dollars to stay in business, why CNN continues their decline in spite of being the most unwatched cable news network.

Okay, so if there are less Democrats in here and other places how do they win elections? Because the Democrats depend on the ignorant voter. Ignorant and stupid voters always vote Democrat. Democrat sound like democracy, and democracy is a good thing, right? The extent of their political knowledge is Democrats are for the poor and Republicans are for the rich. It's all they know and want to know.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Yes. It runs about 75/20/5 for right/left/neither

Those 5% "neither' are just contrarians like gipper, mark1958, and indeependent who will automatically say "green" if you say "red" just because they can. They don't believe anything they post or so it seems.

 

[Indeependent]

They are not.

They are opposites.
Since Reagan, Republican Presidents represent prosperity for those willing to make their employees work 100+ hours a week.

The problem is that Democrats approve of sexual perversion.

 

[pknopp]

You mean like the deplorables, the unvaxinated, the wealthy, the gun owners, the...........

I want nothing to do with Hillary either.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You don't even understand conservatism you idiot. You have no credibility making such a statement.

He is just a contrarian, trying to stir up shit!

 

[White 6]

So what was authoritarian about Trump? Give us an example or two.

Favoring the overthrow of the constitutional tranfer of power on Jan 6 is one,
Signing the Budget and bragging about it as a great victory, the misappropriating the money agreed by two houses of congress, taking it away from the lines where it was appropriated by the House of representatives, to give to his wall which was not funded as he liked, directly against constitutional control of the House of the purse strings is another.

 

[sartre play]

This site is now a hate place. personality before principals. Difficult to not get caught up in. Have to keep reminding my self that hate of your fellow American is not healthy, Will not give up my long time friends no matter how crazy I think there politics are.

 

[Ringel05]

Sometimes I hate being right all the time..........

 

[Darkwind]

They are opposites.
Since Reagan, Republican Presidents represent prosperity for those willing to make their employees work 100+ hours a week.

The problem is that Democrats approve of sexual perversion.

This is dishonesty brokered by those who have a stake in progressive ideology.

Companies are not wholly indicative of a free market, but they are part and parcel to that free market. No company in existence inside the USA makes their employees work 100+ hours a week. They lack the authority to force that kind of servitude. The Government has that authority, but we are discussing free markets and the government resides OUTSIDE the free market.

To simplify so that others can understand, a free market is a system in which someone with no resources and through hard work, build a successful life for his/herself and family.

No other system tried in the past or in existence today, has lifted more people out of poverty and destitution than a free market capitalist system.

Such a system thrives on the backbone of work. Labor and work are absolute qualities of human dignity, regardless of the outcome or purpose of the work.

So, they are NOT opposites.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

There are certainly many leftists here. There are loads of democrats here and some of them post in such profligate fashion one would almost think they are being paid to post.

Liberals, however, are extremely rare on this board.

Leftists, liberals, Democrats, Communists, Socialists, it's all the same thing to me.

We have leftists here pretending to be independents so we can throw them in the mix as well. They are too embarrassed to say what they really are.

 

[Indeependent]

This is dishonesty brokered by those who have a stake in progressive ideology.

Companies are not wholly indicative of a free market, but they are part and parcel to that free market. No company in existence inside the USA makes their employees work 100+ hours a week. They lack the authority to force that kind of servitude. The Government has that authority, but we are discussing free markets and the government resides OUTSIDE the free market.

To simplify so that others can understand, a free market is a system in which someone with no resources and through hard work, build a successful life for his/herself and family.

No other system tried in the past or in existence today, has lifted more people out of poverty and destitution than a free market capitalist system.

Such a system thrives on the backbone of work. Labor and work are absolute qualities of human dignity, regardless of the outcome or purpose of the work.

So, they are NOT opposites.

I worked on Wall Street for many years.
During Republican administrations the legal rights of employees were tossed in the trash can.
When the workers don't even earn enough to invest in the profits of the market and have to work 100+ hours a week or get fired, there's definitely a problem in the system.

 

[White 6]

Then you're not a Democrat.

Never said I was. Not a republican either. Neither party is fit for me to waste time believing in, on an ongoing basis. Not an In Deep endent, type person. Just independent.

 

[pknopp]

This is dishonesty brokered by those who have a stake in progressive ideology.

Companies are not wholly indicative of a free market, but they are part and parcel to that free market. No company in existence inside the USA makes their employees work 100+ hours a week. They lack the authority to force that kind of servitude. The Government has that authority, but we are discussing free markets and the government resides OUTSIDE the free market.

Which is when a business goes to hiring illegals.

To simplify so that others can understand, a free market is a system in which someone with no resources and through hard work, build a successful life for his/herself and family.

No other system tried in the past or in existence today, has lifted more people out of poverty and destitution than a free market capitalist system.

Such a system thrives on the backbone of work. Labor and work are absolute qualities of human dignity, regardless of the outcome or purpose of the work.

So, they are NOT opposites.

We do NOT have a free market. In a free market the government does not subsidize certain businesses. In a free market the government doesn't make the tax payers bail out a failed business. In a free market if I want to sell my wares overseas, I can, I do not have to get the government permission.

 

[Darkwind]

I worked on Wall Street for many years.
During Republican administrations the legal rights of employees were tossed in the trash can.
When the workers don't even earn enough to invest in the profits of the market and have to work 100+ hours a week or get fired, there's definitely a problem in the system.

You simply cannot prove such an absurd assertion.

In fact, working on Wall Street insulates and isolates you from what happens in the real world of labor.

 

[Flash]

Liberals on her serve the purpose of providing us with the entertainment of being able to ridicule them.

 

[Meathead]

Never said I was. Not a republican either. Neither party is fit for me to waste time believing in, on an ongoing basis. Not an In Deep endent, type person. Just independent.

Why is it you guys never want to admit to being liberals and Democrats?

 

[Bernhard]

Ok, I get that the media's spin is that January 6th was an attempted coup. No one has been charged with any kind of crime related to a "coup," so the Biden Justice Department disagrees with you.

Again, more empty words repeated over and over by the media and parroted by those desperate to distract from the incredible failures of the Biden administration.*

The issue I have with both of the above quotes is that they are characterizations, not descriptions. Why not say exactly what Trump said of did that fits those descriptions?

Who is preparing a coup to seize power? What exactly are they doing? Be specific as to who and what.

Those statements are absurd on their face. That's why "decent conservatives" don't want to speak out when they do disagree with Trump. They don't want to be lumped in with that kind of craziness.

Yes, because Trump is "literally Hitler." Or was the G.W. Bush? Or both? Reagan also?

This is another example of the left using name calling instead of reason.

Tell me why Trump's efforts to close the border were bad for the American people and that Biden flying undocumented, untested and unvaccinated illegal aliens to red states is good for the American people.

Well, Trump was diselected, but he rallied up a mob to storm the Capitol and did all he could to stay in power. He even attacked Pence for doing his constitutional duty. If Pence hadn't called in security forces, only God knows what would have happened. Most likely, Trump would have used the turmoil as a pretext to call out a state of emergency and prevented the certification of Biden's victory from happening.

Ever since then, Trump and almost the entire spineless ilk of Republicans who follow him, spread the lie that elections only matter when Republicans win. By doing so, Trump is preparing another putsch in 2024, in case he's losing again.

It's obvious as daylight the Republican party no longer respects free elections, and by doing so, they have turned their backs on the Constitution -- just like in all the other banana republics in Latin America or Africa, where transitions of power have less to do with elections, but with putsches and coups.

And frankly, when you're not seeing that, there is no sense in debating with you or your kind -- you're supporters of autocratic tyranny who don't even have the slightest interest in honest debate. All you want is abusing debate in order to foster propaganda and narratives that have the goal of establishing tyranny.

So good luck with that. You're the enemy.

 

[Jets]

This site is now a hate place. personality before principals. Difficult to not get caught up in. Have to keep reminding my self that hate of your fellow American is not healthy, Will not give up my long time friends no matter how crazy I think there politics are.

Spot on!

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Very few, but there appear to be some. There are no conservatives that are Trumpers. Be a conservative precludes following that which seeks to destroy, not conserve.

So who was the last Republican President that was more conservative than Trump? Trump spoke out for religious freedom, strongly supports our police and military, pro-life, cutting wasteful spending, did the job for free for four years, lost a billion dollars of net worth to run and become President, tough on our border, for lower taxation, especially for our job creators......

So how do you figure Trump or his supporters are not conservative?