Israeli forces shoot unarmed protesters from across Gaza security fence, killing at least 15

[Ropey]

The last thing the Arabs Muslims want is a Secular & Communist Arab state and they've been steaming for a generation and a half over the cultural Marxists who had hijacked the Palestinian question from the Arabs... in order to effect such a disgusting Secular creation.

Then the EU, etc. . . gained control. Then NATO. Then the Marxist division of Hamas and Fatah. Then the Iranian control of the Hamas.

Now the Arab Muslim countries are working to expel the cultural Marxists and the Iranian Supported Hamas.

 

[Ropey]

This is the game of the leftist cultural Marxist. It's almost over.

Palestinian TV: The “Holocaust Is A Lie” Perpetrated By Jews “In Collusion With Hitler".

Poor PF. All turned to dust, his hopes for an end to Israel.

 

[Mindful]

Just give peace a chance..


Zionist Pugs Cartoon: Peace!
They just want peace…
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[RoccoR]

RE: Israeli forces shoot unarmed protesters from across Gaza security fence, killing at least 15
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

And here we have a believer in revisionist history.

RE: Israeli forces shoot unarmed protesters from across Gaza security fence, killing at least 15
※→ Billo_Really, et al,

Oh, for heaven's sake...

That is counter to You own logic, was there ever a war against Egyptian occupation?

Because Egypt doesn't occupy Palestinian land. That's why.

(COMMENT)

OK, in 1948 did not place under occupation territory. The Israelis had sovereign territory, and territory under the Armistice Agreements.

At the conclusion of the 1967 War, Israel had:

• Sovereign territory
• Territory formerly under the sovereignty of Jordan.
• Territory formerly under the Military Governorship of Egypt.
• Territorial fragments formerly under the Administration IAW the Armistice.

Today, let's see. Israel has:

• Sovereign territory (including annexations; and territorial boundaries from the Treaties with Jordan and Egypt).
  
• Territory formerly under the sovereignty of Jordan.
• Territorial fragments formerly under the Administration of the Armistice.

Most Respectfully,
R

OK, in 1948 did not place under occupation territory. The Israelis had sovereign territory, and territory under the Armistice Agreements.

Israel had no territory under the armistice agreements.

(COMMENT)

In the 1949 Armistice arrangements, there was a difference between the original apportionment outlining Part I, A/RES/181 (II) and the territory under the effective control outlined in the Armistice Agreements. The difference between the two demarcations (1949 to 1967) is the territory recognized as being under administration and effective control after the Armistices were put in place.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Billo_Really]

RE: Israeli forces shoot unarmed protesters from across Gaza security fence, killing at least 15
※→ Billo_Really, et al,

Oh, for heaven's sake...

That is counter to You own logic, was there ever a war against Egyptian occupation?

Because Egypt doesn't occupy Palestinian land. That's why.

(COMMENT)

OK, in 1948 did not place under occupation territory. The Israelis had sovereign territory, and territory under the Armistice Agreements.

At the conclusion of the 1967 War, Israel had:

• Sovereign territory
• Territory formerly under the sovereignty of Jordan.
• Territory formwerly under the Military Governorship of Egypt.
• Territorial fragments formerly under the Administration IAW the Armistice.

Today, let's see. Israel has:

• Sovereign territory (including annexations; and territorial boundaries from the Treaties with Jordan and Egypt).
  
• Territory formerly under the sovereignty of Jordan.
• Territorial fragments formerly under the Administration of the Armistice.

Most Respectfully,
R

In 1948, Israel took more land than that was allocated to it. They took it by force and drove out 3/4 million Palestinians from the area.

In 1967, Israel took the West Bank, Golan Heights, Gaza and East Jerusalem in that war. That's the land Israel occupy's to this date. And that's the land, that will never be Israeli territory.

 

[Billo_Really]

I see you do not know History AT ALL. The Arab Nations drove the Palestinians out of Israel with threats of murder and death if they stayed while Arab armies attacked Israel in 1948. That is the facts retard not your perverted spin on it.

Listen you little Israeli kiss-ass, no one leaves there home they've been living at for generations, just because someone comes up one day and tells them to go. They were driven out by violence. And that violence was at the hands of Jewish terrorist groups like Irgun.

BTW, the Arab armies went in to restore order and to ensure the indigenous Arabs land rights. You don't tell someone to leave their home, when you are there to protect their home.

Why are you such a little Israeli bitch?

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Israeli forces shoot unarmed protesters from across Gaza security fence, killing at least 15
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

And here we have a believer in revisionist history.

RE: Israeli forces shoot unarmed protesters from across Gaza security fence, killing at least 15
※→ Billo_Really, et al,

Oh, for heaven's sake...

That is counter to You own logic, was there ever a war against Egyptian occupation?

Because Egypt doesn't occupy Palestinian land. That's why.

(COMMENT)

OK, in 1948 did not place under occupation territory. The Israelis had sovereign territory, and territory under the Armistice Agreements.

At the conclusion of the 1967 War, Israel had:

• Sovereign territory
• Territory formerly under the sovereignty of Jordan.
• Territory formerly under the Military Governorship of Egypt.
• Territorial fragments formerly under the Administration IAW the Armistice.

Today, let's see. Israel has:

• Sovereign territory (including annexations; and territorial boundaries from the Treaties with Jordan and Egypt).
  
• Territory formerly under the sovereignty of Jordan.
• Territorial fragments formerly under the Administration of the Armistice.

Most Respectfully,
R

OK, in 1948 did not place under occupation territory. The Israelis had sovereign territory, and territory under the Armistice Agreements.

Israel had no territory under the armistice agreements.

(COMMENT)

In the 1949 Armistice arrangements, there was a difference between the original apportionment outlining Part I, A/RES/181 (II) and the territory under the effective control outlined in the Armistice Agreements. The difference between the two demarcations (1949 to 1967) is the territory recognized as being under administration and effective control after the Armistices were put in place.

Most Respectfully,
R

The armistice agreements cut Palestine into three areas of occupation. There was not a word of difference between Egypt, Jordan, and Israel. Each had control of territory defined by lines that were not political or territorial boundaries.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Israeli forces shoot unarmed protesters from across Gaza security fence, killing at least 15
※→ Billo_Really, et al,

Oh, for heaven's sake...

That is counter to You own logic, was there ever a war against Egyptian occupation?

Because Egypt doesn't occupy Palestinian land. That's why.

(COMMENT)

OK, in 1948 did not place under occupation territory. The Israelis had sovereign territory, and territory under the Armistice Agreements.

At the conclusion of the 1967 War, Israel had:

• Sovereign territory
• Territory formerly under the sovereignty of Jordan.
• Territory formwerly under the Military Governorship of Egypt.
• Territorial fragments formerly under the Administration IAW the Armistice.

Today, let's see. Israel has:

• Sovereign territory (including annexations; and territorial boundaries from the Treaties with Jordan and Egypt).
  
• Territory formerly under the sovereignty of Jordan.
• Territorial fragments formerly under the Administration of the Armistice.

Most Respectfully,
R

In 1948, Israel took more land than that was allocated to it. They took it by force and drove out 3/4 million Palestinians from the area.

In 1967, Israel took the West Bank, Golan Heights, Gaza and East Jerusalem in that war. That's the land Israel occupy's to this date. And that's the land, that will never be Israeli territory.

n 1948, Israel took more land than that was allocated to it.

Resolution 181 didn't happen. All of that territory was captured by war.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

RE: Israeli forces shoot unarmed protesters from across Gaza security fence, killing at least 15
※→ Billo_Really, et al,

Oh, for heaven's sake...

That is counter to You own logic, was there ever a war against Egyptian occupation?

Because Egypt doesn't occupy Palestinian land. That's why.

(COMMENT)

OK, in 1948 did not place under occupation territory. The Israelis had sovereign territory, and territory under the Armistice Agreements.

At the conclusion of the 1967 War, Israel had:

• Sovereign territory
• Territory formerly under the sovereignty of Jordan.
• Territory formwerly under the Military Governorship of Egypt.
• Territorial fragments formerly under the Administration IAW the Armistice.

Today, let's see. Israel has:

• Sovereign territory (including annexations; and territorial boundaries from the Treaties with Jordan and Egypt).
  
• Territory formerly under the sovereignty of Jordan.
• Territorial fragments formerly under the Administration of the Armistice.

Most Respectfully,
R

In 1948, Israel took more land than that was allocated to it. They took it by force and drove out 3/4 million Palestinians from the area.

In 1967, Israel took the West Bank, Golan Heights, Gaza and East Jerusalem in that war. That's the land Israel occupy's to this date. And that's the land, that will never be Israeli territory.

In 1948, Israel took more land than that was allocated to it.

Yup, they kicked some Arab ass.

In 1967, Israel took the West Bank, Golan Heights, Gaza and East Jerusalem in that war.

Yup, kicked Arab ass again.

That's the land Israel occupy's to this date.

And they're gonna keep most of it.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I see you do not know History AT ALL. The Arab Nations drove the Palestinians out of Israel with threats of murder and death if they stayed while Arab armies attacked Israel in 1948. That is the facts retard not your perverted spin on it.

Listen you little Israeli kiss-ass, no one leaves there home they've been living at for generations, just because someone comes up one day and tells them to go. They were driven out by violence. And that violence was at the hands of Jewish terrorist groups like Irgun.

BTW, the Arab armies went in to restore order and to ensure the indigenous Arabs land rights. You don't tell someone to leave their home, when you are there to protect their home.

Why are you such a little Israeli bitch?

BTW, the Arab armies went in to restore order and to ensure the indigenous Arabs land rights.

Big mistake........

 

[Mindful]

RE: Israeli forces shoot unarmed protesters from across Gaza security fence, killing at least 15
※→ Billo_Really, et al,

Oh, for heaven's sake...

That is counter to You own logic, was there ever a war against Egyptian occupation?

Because Egypt doesn't occupy Palestinian land. That's why.

(COMMENT)

OK, in 1948 did not place under occupation territory. The Israelis had sovereign territory, and territory under the Armistice Agreements.

At the conclusion of the 1967 War, Israel had:

• Sovereign territory
• Territory formerly under the sovereignty of Jordan.
• Territory formwerly under the Military Governorship of Egypt.
• Territorial fragments formerly under the Administration IAW the Armistice.

Today, let's see. Israel has:

• Sovereign territory (including annexations; and territorial boundaries from the Treaties with Jordan and Egypt).
  
• Territory formerly under the sovereignty of Jordan.
• Territorial fragments formerly under the Administration of the Armistice.

Most Respectfully,
R

In 1948, Israel took more land than that was allocated to it. They took it by force and drove out 3/4 million Palestinians from the area.

In 1967, Israel took the West Bank, Golan Heights, Gaza and East Jerusalem in that war. That's the land Israel occupy's to this date. And that's the land, that will never be Israeli territory.

Israel settled for far less land than was promised to it.

How many Arab armies attacked the fledgling state after said state was founded? Do you know?

And do you know the reason/rationale for taking the Golan? Without any of your revisionist nonsense?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

RE: Israeli forces shoot unarmed protesters from across Gaza security fence, killing at least 15
※→ Billo_Really, et al,

Oh, for heaven's sake...

That is counter to You own logic, was there ever a war against Egyptian occupation?

Because Egypt doesn't occupy Palestinian land. That's why.

(COMMENT)

OK, in 1948 did not place under occupation territory. The Israelis had sovereign territory, and territory under the Armistice Agreements.

At the conclusion of the 1967 War, Israel had:

• Sovereign territory
• Territory formerly under the sovereignty of Jordan.
• Territory formwerly under the Military Governorship of Egypt.
• Territorial fragments formerly under the Administration IAW the Armistice.

Today, let's see. Israel has:

• Sovereign territory (including annexations; and territorial boundaries from the Treaties with Jordan and Egypt).
  
• Territory formerly under the sovereignty of Jordan.
• Territorial fragments formerly under the Administration of the Armistice.

Most Respectfully,
R

OK, in 1948 did not place under occupation territory. The Israelis had sovereign territory, and territory under the Armistice Agreements.

Israel had no territory under the armistice agreements.

Israel had no territory under the armistice agreements.

You never did explain who had the territory under the armistice agreements.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Israeli forces shoot unarmed protesters from across Gaza security fence, killing at least 15
※→ Billo_Really, et al,

Oh, for heaven's sake...

That is counter to You own logic, was there ever a war against Egyptian occupation?

Because Egypt doesn't occupy Palestinian land. That's why.

(COMMENT)

OK, in 1948 did not place under occupation territory. The Israelis had sovereign territory, and territory under the Armistice Agreements.

At the conclusion of the 1967 War, Israel had:

• Sovereign territory
• Territory formerly under the sovereignty of Jordan.
• Territory formwerly under the Military Governorship of Egypt.
• Territorial fragments formerly under the Administration IAW the Armistice.

Today, let's see. Israel has:

• Sovereign territory (including annexations; and territorial boundaries from the Treaties with Jordan and Egypt).
  
• Territory formerly under the sovereignty of Jordan.
• Territorial fragments formerly under the Administration of the Armistice.

Most Respectfully,
R

In 1948, Israel took more land than that was allocated to it. They took it by force and drove out 3/4 million Palestinians from the area.

In 1967, Israel took the West Bank, Golan Heights, Gaza and East Jerusalem in that war. That's the land Israel occupy's to this date. And that's the land, that will never be Israeli territory.

Israel settled for far less land than was promised to it.

How many Arab armies attacked the fledgling state after said state was founded? Do you know?

And do you know the reason/rationale for taking the Golan? Without any of your revisionist nonsense?

How many Arab armies attacked the fledgling state after said state was founded? Do you know?

Yeah, none. All of the fighting took place in Palestine.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Israeli forces shoot unarmed protesters from across Gaza security fence, killing at least 15
※→ Billo_Really, et al,

Oh, for heaven's sake...

That is counter to You own logic, was there ever a war against Egyptian occupation?

Because Egypt doesn't occupy Palestinian land. That's why.

(COMMENT)

OK, in 1948 did not place under occupation territory. The Israelis had sovereign territory, and territory under the Armistice Agreements.

At the conclusion of the 1967 War, Israel had:

• Sovereign territory
• Territory formerly under the sovereignty of Jordan.
• Territory formwerly under the Military Governorship of Egypt.
• Territorial fragments formerly under the Administration IAW the Armistice.

Today, let's see. Israel has:

• Sovereign territory (including annexations; and territorial boundaries from the Treaties with Jordan and Egypt).
  
• Territory formerly under the sovereignty of Jordan.
• Territorial fragments formerly under the Administration of the Armistice.

Most Respectfully,
R

OK, in 1948 did not place under occupation territory. The Israelis had sovereign territory, and territory under the Armistice Agreements.

Israel had no territory under the armistice agreements.

Israel had no territory under the armistice agreements.

You never did explain who had the territory under the armistice agreements.

Not Israel. The UN had no territory. The Mandate had no territory. So, where did Israel get it?
Link?

 

[Hollie]

RE: Israeli forces shoot unarmed protesters from across Gaza security fence, killing at least 15
※→ Billo_Really, et al,

Oh, for heaven's sake...

That is counter to You own logic, was there ever a war against Egyptian occupation?

Because Egypt doesn't occupy Palestinian land. That's why.

(COMMENT)

OK, in 1948 did not place under occupation territory. The Israelis had sovereign territory, and territory under the Armistice Agreements.

At the conclusion of the 1967 War, Israel had:

• Sovereign territory
• Territory formerly under the sovereignty of Jordan.
• Territory formwerly under the Military Governorship of Egypt.
• Territorial fragments formerly under the Administration IAW the Armistice.

Today, let's see. Israel has:

• Sovereign territory (including annexations; and territorial boundaries from the Treaties with Jordan and Egypt).
  
• Territory formerly under the sovereignty of Jordan.
• Territorial fragments formerly under the Administration of the Armistice.

Most Respectfully,
R

OK, in 1948 did not place under occupation territory. The Israelis had sovereign territory, and territory under the Armistice Agreements.

Israel had no territory under the armistice agreements.

Israel had no territory under the armistice agreements.

You never did explain who had the territory under the armistice agreements.

Not Israel. The UN had no territory. The Mandate had no territory. So, where did Israel get it?
Link?

This is where you launch into your "Treaty of Lausanne",nonsensical rant.

Link?

 

[harmonica]

​

this proves nothing
..where is the POLICY!! ? the Pals kidnap civilians then kill them/etc --NO DOUBT about it
..these excerpts do not make sense---there is no context--no overall story.....
..so there is an area where no civilians are not supposed to be--just like in the Vietnam War--if civilians are not supposed to be there, and they get killed--it's the civilians fault!!!
from your link:

the US did this in WW2 !!! same thing
Through much of World War II, Allied bombers would sometimes drop leaflets warning of impending bombing of a city.
Warning Leaflets
..

The area where no civilians are supposed to be, is Gaza. Where the fuck are they supposed to go? And just because you drop leaflets, doesn't change the fact that it is illegal to target civilians who play no role in the hostilities. Targets must be of a military nature. Treating the entire population as the enemy, is a war crime.

you must have zero knowledge on combat/war/warfare
civilians usually always get killed in war zones/conflicts !!!!! this is just a fact !!
please do some reading on the subject

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I see you do not know History AT ALL. The Arab Nations drove the Palestinians out of Israel with threats of murder and death if they stayed while Arab armies attacked Israel in 1948. That is the facts retard not your perverted spin on it.

Listen you little Israeli kiss-ass, no one leaves there home they've been living at for generations, just because someone comes up one day and tells them to go. They were driven out by violence. And that violence was at the hands of Jewish terrorist groups like Irgun.

BTW, the Arab armies went in to restore order and to ensure the indigenous Arabs land rights. You don't tell someone to leave their home, when you are there to protect their home.

Why are you such a little Israeli bitch?

LOL you are BEYOND retarded, the Arabs announced the threat and ordered the Arabs out on pain of death, historical fact that you want to ignore, pathetic.

 

[P F Tinmore]

​

this proves nothing
..where is the POLICY!! ? the Pals kidnap civilians then kill them/etc --NO DOUBT about it
..these excerpts do not make sense---there is no context--no overall story.....
..so there is an area where no civilians are not supposed to be--just like in the Vietnam War--if civilians are not supposed to be there, and they get killed--it's the civilians fault!!!
from your link:

the US did this in WW2 !!! same thing
Through much of World War II, Allied bombers would sometimes drop leaflets warning of impending bombing of a city.
Warning Leaflets
..

The area where no civilians are supposed to be, is Gaza. Where the fuck are they supposed to go? And just because you drop leaflets, doesn't change the fact that it is illegal to target civilians who play no role in the hostilities. Targets must be of a military nature. Treating the entire population as the enemy, is a war crime.

you must have zero knowledge on combat/war/warfare
civilians usually always get killed in war zones/conflicts !!!!! this is just a fact !!
please do some reading on the subject

Who said it was a war zone?

 

[Indeependent]

​

this proves nothing
..where is the POLICY!! ? the Pals kidnap civilians then kill them/etc --NO DOUBT about it
..these excerpts do not make sense---there is no context--no overall story.....
..so there is an area where no civilians are not supposed to be--just like in the Vietnam War--if civilians are not supposed to be there, and they get killed--it's the civilians fault!!!
from your link:

the US did this in WW2 !!! same thing
Through much of World War II, Allied bombers would sometimes drop leaflets warning of impending bombing of a city.
Warning Leaflets
..

The area where no civilians are supposed to be, is Gaza. Where the fuck are they supposed to go? And just because you drop leaflets, doesn't change the fact that it is illegal to target civilians who play no role in the hostilities. Targets must be of a military nature. Treating the entire population as the enemy, is a war crime.

you must have zero knowledge on combat/war/warfare
civilians usually always get killed in war zones/conflicts !!!!! this is just a fact !!
please do some reading on the subject

Who said it was a war zone?

Actions, not words.

 

[harmonica]

​

this proves nothing
..where is the POLICY!! ? the Pals kidnap civilians then kill them/etc --NO DOUBT about it
..these excerpts do not make sense---there is no context--no overall story.....
..so there is an area where no civilians are not supposed to be--just like in the Vietnam War--if civilians are not supposed to be there, and they get killed--it's the civilians fault!!!
from your link:

the US did this in WW2 !!! same thing
Through much of World War II, Allied bombers would sometimes drop leaflets warning of impending bombing of a city.
Warning Leaflets
..

The area where no civilians are supposed to be, is Gaza. Where the fuck are they supposed to go? And just because you drop leaflets, doesn't change the fact that it is illegal to target civilians who play no role in the hostilities. Targets must be of a military nature. Treating the entire population as the enemy, is a war crime.

you must have zero knowledge on combat/war/warfare
civilians usually always get killed in war zones/conflicts !!!!! this is just a fact !!
please do some reading on the subject

Who said it was a war zone?

please read more carefully/slowly..read it again
conflict
con·flict
noun
ˈkänˌflikt/

1. 1.
   a serious disagreement or argument, typically a protracted one.
   "the eternal conflict between the sexes"
   synonyms: dispute, quarrel, squabble, disagreement, dissension, clash;