320 Years of History
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I fully understand this thread will catch a lot of flack from the left but I don't care. I also want to say, I have several dear and sweet homosexual friends and family members who I love very much and it makes what I am about to say very difficult for me personally.
I am starting to think it would be easier for us to condemn homosexuality than to tolerate it. Clearly to me, we (society) are trying to accept homosexuality in our culture without passing judgement but it's simply impossible because it won't be allowed. They continue to push harder for more and more special conditions to be established in order to accommodate their gayness. If there is the least bit of opposition, that is immediately turned into "homophobia" and the objector is vilified as a hater and bigot.
We've bent over backwards to try and please them but they won't be satisfied. We've taught our kids to accept them, our pastors and ministers preach about being tolerant, love the sinner and hate the sin. We've allowed them the dignity of coming out of the closet but it seems no matter what efforts are made to try and accept their behavior, it's simply not enough. We're pushed and pushed even further. There is no end... it's becoming sheer madness.
One of these days, I look for some gay lobby to push for a law which allows gay men to openly shove their penis in your mouth or ass when in public, so as to accommodate their sexual urges... and IF you deny them that "right" you are a homophobic bigot! Don't laugh, it's where this kind of shit always ends because there is no giving them what they want. It will never be enough.
At what point does society STOP being tolerant and PC? When do we reach that tipping point where we say... ya know what, maybe it was a mistake to accept you people and tolerate this? Perhaps your behavior is inappropriate and wrong, and we have been foolish trying to condone it for all this time? Could we ever reach such a 'backlash' point? I think we can because inevitably it's where they are going to push us. They are bound and determined to turn America against them or die trying. Change your laws! Make marriage be about your sexual behaviors and not what it has traditionally meant for 5,000 years! Tolerate it in your face every day 24/7 or face being castigated as a bigot.
No... You can't enjoy your favorite TV show anymore, we're going to make you watch two men kissing because you are a bigot who needs it shoved in your face. No, you can't hold your own personal religious beliefs anymore, it violates our rights! We gay people demand you accept our sexually deviant behavior as "normal" and not compare us with other deviants because we're fucking special! You got that, bigot?
When does society stand up and say, you know what? We're done being nice! Go to hell and take your cock-sucking perverted friends with you! WE don't have to tolerate YOU... YOU have to tolerate US! --WE don't have to accept you being gay... you need to abandon that behavior or get help, but don't ask for special treatment anymore... we're done!
What will it take? Anthony Kennedy legislating from the bench to "find a right" for homos to publicly molest heterosexuals without fear of reprisal? Eventually, this is where this all leads because we can't ever give them what they want. They seek legitimacy for an abnormal sexual behavior which they know and realize is abnormal. What we are doing is encouraging and enabling their condition.... it's like offering kiddie porn to pedophiles. It's NEVER going to be enough!
Now, patiently we've tried for the past 30 years or so, to accept gay people and be tolerant of their lifestyles. We're no closer to appeasing them now than we've ever been and I don't know that we can ever appease them enough. It might just be easier to roll all this back and start over with the mindset that something is wrong with you gay people and we're not going to accept it into our culture anymore. If you don't like it, move to France or somewhere homosexuality is normal.
...Let the flames begin!
Man has gone out to explore other worlds and other civilizations without having explored his own labyrinth of dark passages and secret chambers, and without finding what lies behind doorways that he himself has sealed.
― Stanisław Lem, Solaris
Let the flames begin! (Was that an intentional pun?) Looking at your opening paragraph, it's not clear to me what you wanted to see in response to your OP.....It is, however, clear to me that, as stated at the start of your post, you "just don't care" about much other than the righteousness and "infallibility" of your own viewpoint on this matter.
In reading your post, it appears you associate homosexuality only with men. Why is that? Has it not dawned on you that there are as many gay women as there are gay men?
Red:
Say what? Is the saying "it is what it is" incomprehensible to you? Are you truly unable to observe others, in particular gay people, and not pass judgment? Are you certain that nobody else can? It seems from your comments that you can't and are.
Blue:
I don't understand. What exactly are some examples of our being pushed "even further" and that show there to be "no end?"
I've heard fundamentalist theists assert, for example, that the legal recognition of gay marriage posed the biggest threat to heterosexual marriage. Poppycock! The biggest threat to any marriage is the existence of divorce.
Purple:
Out of curiosity, what are your thoughts about lesbians publicly forcing themselves on women? Do you find that notion offensive because it'd be an assault? Or do you find it appealing because it'd be gay women rather than gay men?
Green:
I too don't care much for the notion of "political correctness." I see PC as little other than a "guidebook" that shows moral miscreants how to behave and what to say, thereby allowing them to move through society without the rest of us being readily aware of their true nature.
Orange:
It stands to reason that if a television show's producers opt to depict characters and themes that you find objectionable, that the show might no longer be among your favorites. Why do you persist in watching a show you don't like? Why are you complaining here? Change the channel. Write to show's producers. (I might not have had these remarks, but as I wrote above, it's not clear just what you expected us to say in response to your OP.)
Pink:
You really should get out and read more.
- Do Animals Exhibit Homosexuality? | Yale Scientific Magazine
- 1,500 animal species practice homosexuality
- The Natural "Crime Against Nature": Homosexual Behaviors In Animals
I can respect that you find homosexual behavior among humans abhorrent (even though I don't agree), but asserting that same-sex pairings is abnormal, not natural, is quite simply wrong. Sure, homosexuality isn't the most commonly exhibited sexual behavior among animals (human or otherwise), but frequency of occurrence does not demonstrate abnormality. Indeed, that it exists at all indicates that it's normal. For example, cancer, though not beneficial, yet is a normal thing that happens. Cancer is undesirable, but it is normal.
Nothing limits intelligence more than ignorance; nothing fosters ignorance more than one's own opinions; nothing strengthens opinions more than refusing to look at reality.
― Sheri S. Tepper, The Visitor