It's Mueller Time!

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

1) Trump commuted an obstructive act when he ordered Don McGahn to fire the special counsel.


2) The obstruction act was connected to an official proceeding.

3) The act was carried out with corrupt intent.


With precision, Rep. Jeffries ticks through the three elements proving obstruction of justice


Seems clear to me

The "act" was carried out? When was it that Don McGahn fired Robert Mueller? Mueller testified that nobody interfered in his investigation. That's the end of any "obstruction" claims, Skews! Did people in the Trump White House TALK about firing Mueller? Hell, yeah!!! Trump was pissed off at the farce that was taking place! He knew he never colluded with Russia to win the election. He knew Hillary Clinton DID collude with foreign nationals in an attempt to smear Trump and win the election! How could he NOT talk about firing Mueller?

I will even be generous enough to concede that the "act" was simply ordering that the IC be fired.

Now, as the Executive, the President has a duty to stop unwarranted, expensive criminal investigations into was is clearly NOT a crime. So, if it is true that there was no underlying crime (there was not) it would be really hard for me to find, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Trump acted with corrupt intent, when it is clear that he was likely carrying out his duty as President.

I am still waiting for a legitimate response.

Should I hold my breath?

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[Weatherman2020]

"Can you give me an example other than Donald Trump where the Justice Department determined that an investigated person is not exonerated because their innocence was not conclusively determined?" Ratcliffe asked.

Mueller replied that he could not identify another person who was ever held to the same standard as Trump, but added that "this is a unique situation."


BANG!!!

Commies like to have people guilty until they can prove their innocence.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Bob Mewllerr says Fusion GPS???? Whats That??? lmmaaooo…..

 

[OldLady]

What I'm hearing is that the two sides are coming in with their pre-packaged questions, but nobody is reacting to the distortions of the preceding questioner(s). Very disappointing.

I realize that they have a very limited amount of time, but in interview parlance, they are all being presented with huge softballs, but are ignoring them.

Big Point being IGNORED by the R's: There is NOTHING WRONG and NOTHING ILLEGAL and NOTHING UNETHICAL about receiving, accepting and using TRUTHFUL, VERIFIED, NON-PUBLISHED but NON-CLASSIFIED information from a foreigner about a political opponent, even if that information could be valuable in the political campaign.

Specifically, they are talking about the Russians providing "dirt" to Donald Jr. on HRC. Truthful information? Call it "dirt" or call it whatever you want. If it is actual, truthful, documented information, there is nothing wrong with it.

Candidates are not allowed to accept anything of value from a foreign government. That is being extended to include not just money but information that would enhance the campaign. (Candidates DO pay for oppo research, don't they?) The emails prior to the meeting made it clear where the information was coming from--from Putin with love.
Even the Republicans admitted they would have run from that one as fast as they could go.

 

[percysunshine]

A blatant example of Congressional paid purview.

 

[Marion Morrison]

If POTUS “wanted”to fire Mueller, but DID NOT......how the mother fuck is that obstruction?

Trump ordered the firing of Mueller and other interference in the investigation.

The only reason it didn't happen was due to INSUBORDINATION. His people straight up REFUSED his corrupt orders.

Obstruction charge requires only the act on corrupt intent (Trump's corrupt orders), not successful thwarting of investigation.

Firing Mueller was well within his constitutional authority. A president can't be convicted of obstruction for exercising what the Constitution gives him the authority to do.

He didn't though, and apparently that was the right thing to do.

 

[OKTexas]

My take away, there was no predicate to start an investigation into the campaign. It was all orchestrated smoke and mirrors.

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There was not even a legal justification for it, documented anywhere.

A professor, who had 400,000+ in DOD contracts, fed bogus information to the greek, the greek repeated what he was told by the prof. to the Australian Ambassador, the Ambassador told the FBI. As I said, all orchestrated, probably by Comey.

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So even though there was plenty of crimes found you want to critize the FBI for investigating because it could have been nothing.

Sorry but they were told of suspicious activity and they investigated, it is called their jobs...

Maybe you should learn to read, the reason to start the investigation was fabricated using US assets, feeding and repeating information provided by those assets. There were no independent actions by the campaign that predicated the investigation, it was all a set up for political purposes.

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[PredFan]

LOL Mueller destroyed.

Poor Commiecrats, left eating another nothing burger.

By our fat orange vagina grabber?
Anyone else they would be in jail

On what charges moron? You lefties have been trying for two years and you have nothing. If there was anything at all the left would have him charged already. Take you head out of your ass and use it moron.

 

[Snouter]

Folks, someone needs to set up a thread with poll questions as to today's infamous Mueller Day Disaster.

 

[Marion Morrison]

A blatant example of Congressional paid purview.

 

[Justin Richardson]

The Dems are not searching for the truth, they are trying to build a lie.

Absolutely! The Dems have been building on top of one after another. It is beginning to look like the "Ark of Lies".
I hope it sinks deep. Deep in the Marianna's Trench. Lol

"If you lie long enough....it only becomes truthful to only a few."

That is what the MSM and the Democrats have been doing for the past 2 1/2 years.

 

[Marion Morrison]

lol ya got him now!!!!!! Number 5,236

Negged for the number being exponentially low.

 

[theHawk]

...and Trump never said that Russia-interference was a "Hoax; what he said was that the claim that there was a CONSPIRACY between his campaign and the Russian government was a hoax.

Russian “interference” was nothing more than Facebook memes making fun of Hillary. No more than Chinese, or Europeans making memes making fun of the Donald at the time. Everyone around the world has a stake in the US elections and they are all trying to “influence” it. We all know that communists, Muslims, and socialists do everything they can to support Dems in elections.

 

[August West]

What if it was Chelsea Clinton that had a secret meeting with the Russians at Clinton Tower? The nuts would have wanted Hillary locked up again.

 

[depotoo]

Every time he gets exceedingly nervous he touches the area in front of his ear.

 

[MAGAman]

1) Trump commuted an obstructive act when he ordered Don McGahn to fire the special counsel.


2) The obstruction act was connected to an official proceeding.

3) The act was carried out with corrupt intent.


With precision, Rep. Jeffries ticks through the three elements proving obstruction of justice


Seems clear to me

But it wasn't. You missed a step. Yes, Trump ordered someone to fire someone, but then they told him no, and no one was fired.

You can't charge someone with obstruction that never happened.

Attempted obstruction of a witchhunt that Exonerated him...

I can't wait for them to make a movie out of it.

 

[NotYourBody]

Page 273:
The evidence shows that the President was focused on the Russia investigation's
implications for his presidency and, specifically, on dispelling any suggestion that he was under
investigation or had links to Russia. in early March, the President attempted to prevent Sessions's
recusal, even after being told that Sessions was following DOJ conflict-of-interest rules.

So he obstructed the investigation before it had even started?

You're an idiot.

What? You think he should wait until the investigation is well under way and THEN start wondering how to stop it? Oh my, Trump is way stupider than I thought.

You're also an imbecile. G5000 implies Trump obstructed the investigation before it even existed. That's a logical impossibility, shit for brains. You're so fucking stupid that you don't understand that even after I pointed it out.

Trump was so stupid he couldn't figure out investigations were on the way before they started? He was surprised? Bless his dotard heart.

 

[theHawk]

What I'm hearing is that the two sides are coming in with their pre-packaged questions, but nobody is reacting to the distortions of the preceding questioner(s). Very disappointing.

I realize that they have a very limited amount of time, but in interview parlance, they are all being presented with huge softballs, but are ignoring them.

Big Point being IGNORED by the R's: There is NOTHING WRONG and NOTHING ILLEGAL and NOTHING UNETHICAL about receiving, accepting and using TRUTHFUL, VERIFIED, NON-PUBLISHED but NON-CLASSIFIED information from a foreigner about a political opponent, even if that information could be valuable in the political campaign.

Specifically, they are talking about the Russians providing "dirt" to Donald Jr. on HRC. Truthful information? Call it "dirt" or call it whatever you want. If it is actual, truthful, documented information, there is nothing wrong with it.

Candidates are not allowed to accept anything of value from a foreign government. That is being extended to include not just money but information that would enhance the campaign. (Candidates DO pay for oppo research, don't they?) The emails prior to the meeting made it clear where the information was coming from--from Putin with love.
Even the Republicans admitted they would have run from that one as fast as they could go.

Wrong. Receiving information about someone isn’t a thing of value according to the law.

 

[jc456]

Page 273:
The evidence shows that the President was focused on the Russia investigation's
implications for his presidency and, specifically, on dispelling any suggestion that he was under
investigation or had links to Russia. in early March, the President attempted to prevent Sessions's
recusal, even after being told that Sessions was following DOJ conflict-of-interest rules.

So he obstructed the investigation before it had even started?

You're an idiot.

What? You think he should wait until the investigation is well under way and THEN start wondering how to stop it? Oh my, Trump is way stupider than I thought.

how does one obstruct something that doesn't exist?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Folks, someone needs to set up a thread with poll questions as to today's infamous Mueller Day Disaster.

I knew Mewler was worthless but I had no idea how worthless and weak until today.

The man is a moron