"It's not theirs, Its mine"

[Sixties Fan]

these clueless dembots don’t even know what branch of govt the doj is in

It is not about that. And all the two of you are doing is an attempt to look somewhere else rather than what happened.

Barr is calling Trump a liar about the documents and about the 2020 election. Good for him. Better late then never, after the 2 years of doing everything Trump wanted from him.

Here is the former Attorney General under Trump on those documents :

• Former Attorney General William Barr appeared to defend the Department of Justice’s raid of former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home.
• “People say this was unprecedented, well, it’s also unprecedented for a president to take all this classified information and put them in a country club, okay?” Barr said on Fox News.
• A document unsealed showed that FBI agents found four dozen empty document folders marked “CLASSIFIED” during their search of Trump’s Palm Beach, Florida, resort residence.
• Barr publicly split with Trump after President Joe Biden won the 2020 election by undermining Trump’s false claims that the race was rigged through widespread fraud.

Trump ex-Attorney General Bill Barr defends FBI search of Mar-a-Lago

Barr publicly split with Trump after Biden won the 2020 election by undermining Trump's false claims that the race was rigged through widespread fraud.

www.cnbc.com

 

[struth]

It is not about that. And all the two of you are doing is an attempt to look somewhere else rather than what happened.

Barr is calling Trump a liar about the documents and about the 2020 election. Good for him. Better late then never, after the 2 years of doing everything Trump wanted from him.

Here is the former Attorney General under Trump on those documents :

• Former Attorney General William Barr appeared to defend the Department of Justice’s raid of former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home.
• “People say this was unprecedented, well, it’s also unprecedented for a president to take all this classified information and put them in a country club, okay?” Barr said on Fox News.
• A document unsealed showed that FBI agents found four dozen empty document folders marked “CLASSIFIED” during their search of Trump’s Palm Beach, Florida, resort residence.
• Barr publicly split with Trump after President Joe Biden won the 2020 election by undermining Trump’s false claims that the race was rigged through widespread fraud.

Trump ex-Attorney General Bill Barr defends FBI search of Mar-a-Lago

Barr publicly split with Trump after Biden won the 2020 election by undermining Trump's false claims that the race was rigged through widespread fraud.

www.cnbc.com

hahah nice attempt to deflect from the fact you didn’t. know the doj was part of the executive branch

 

[bripat9643]

Your responses are indeed that of a 2 year old taught to show their middle finger.

But the problem is that the 2 year old has not got he foggiest idea of what it is doing. It only repeats the gesture as taught. No different from a parrot.

Do not worry, I do not expect you to understand and much less agree with what the DOJ is and what it does.
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How does the Department of Justice help the president?


The Department of Justice (DOJ) is a United States executive department formed in 1789 to assist the president and Cabinet in matters concerning the law and to prosecute U.S. Supreme Court cases for the federal government.
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Is the President in charge of DOJ?

DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE

The Attorney General is the head of the DOJ and chief law enforcement officer of the federal government.
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The mission of the Department of Justice (DOJ) is to enforce the law and defend the interests of the United States according to the law; to ensure public safety against threats foreign and domestic; to provide federal leadership in preventing and controlling crime; to seek just punishment for those guilty of unlawful behavior; and to ensure fair and impartial administration of justice for all Americans.

The DOJ is made up of 40 component organizations, including the Drug Enforcement Administration, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the U.S. Marshals, and the Federal Bureau of Prisons. The Attorney General is the head of the DOJ and chief law enforcement officer of the federal government. The Attorney General represents the United States in legal matters, advises the President and the heads of the executive departments of the government, and occasionally appears in person before the Supreme Court.

With a budget of approximately $25 billion, the DOJ is the world’s largest law office and the central agency for the enforcement of federal laws.

You have posted nothing that proves Garland does not take orders form Biden. In fact, you proved precisely the opposite.

Your own cite states

The Department of Justice (DOJ) is a United States executive department

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Biden is the executive, you fucking moron.

 

[bripat9643]

It is not about that. And all the two of you are doing is an attempt to look somewhere else rather than what happened.

Barr is calling Trump a liar about the documents and about the 2020 election. Good for him. Better late then never, after the 2 years of doing everything Trump wanted from him.

Here is the former Attorney General under Trump on those documents :

• Former Attorney General William Barr appeared to defend the Department of Justice’s raid of former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home.
• “People say this was unprecedented, well, it’s also unprecedented for a president to take all this classified information and put them in a country club, okay?” Barr said on Fox News.
• A document unsealed showed that FBI agents found four dozen empty document folders marked “CLASSIFIED” during their search of Trump’s Palm Beach, Florida, resort residence.
• Barr publicly split with Trump after President Joe Biden won the 2020 election by undermining Trump’s false claims that the race was rigged through widespread fraud.

Trump ex-Attorney General Bill Barr defends FBI search of Mar-a-Lago

Barr publicly split with Trump after Biden won the 2020 election by undermining Trump's false claims that the race was rigged through widespread fraud.

www.cnbc.com

What the fuck are you trying to prove with all this incoherent blather?

 

[Sixties Fan]

What the fuck are you trying to prove with all this incoherent blather?

Incoherent to a 2 year old like yourself. Keep an eye on what will happen.

 

[Sixties Fan]

2. ... and for Trump's team to concede that DOJ can continue to use "criminal investigative tools" - well, of course, those can be used only if USG has a genuine criminal purpose. It means the Order should allow for dual-purpose national security assessment and criminal purposes.

3. Trump's line of argument also veers into mere assertion that Judge should disbelieve the Declaration by FBI Assistant Director of Counterintelligence that the intelligence assessment and criminal investigation are inseparable.

4. Second, Trump's team has basically nothing - NADA - to say about lack of a FPOTUS' executive privilege over these documents.

Means Trump would lose on merits, and no need for Special Master for these documents. DOJ's brief is excellent on this score.

5. Even if an FPOTUS can assert Exec Privilege over presidential communications, does NOT apply to "state secrets and sensitive information concerning military or diplomatic matters." Read
@mls1776
(discussing Nixon v. GSA and Justice Kavanaugh's views):

The Absence of Any Executive Privilege by a Former President For National Security Secrets

The landmark Supreme Court case that both sides point to — Nixon v. GSA — has an even more important lesson.

www.justsecurity.org

6. Third, as much as this filing is a preview of Trump's defense to criminal charges, he has an _extremely_ weak hand. a) Criminal charges don't depend on classification. b) "Personal records" or whathaveyou, he was given a subpoena (see
@emptywheel

emptywheel

@emptywheel
· 5h
Reminder: This is really about whether Trump timely responded to a subpoena that did not depend on whether he had declassified nuclear docs for shits and giggles.

7. More on weak hand against criminal charges. c) The allusions to key documents (including National Defense Information) being "personal records" is going to be laughed out of court. d) Trump's claims are inconsistent with turning over docs in January and June.

8. e) Trump's lawyers come very close to claiming Trump converted key documents to his personal use (if not key docs, why raise it?) and he knowingly kept all the docs stored at MAL, including ones that should be with Archives. They'd be foolish to put such ideas before a jury



9. Fourth: Judge Cannon should realize if - based off Trump's brief that fails to even contest key points - she rejects USG's narrow request to amend Order for these national security docs, the Court of Appeals will most likely rapidly overturn her order.

<end>

 

[struth]

Incoherent to a 2 year old like yourself. Keep an eye on what will happen.

haha what happened was you exposed yourself to be a clueless dembot that didn’t realize the DOJ was part of the executive branch

 

[bripat9643]

Incoherent to a 2 year old like yourself. Keep an eye on what will happen.

What do you believe it proves?

 

[bripat9643]

haha what happened was you exposed yourself to be a clueless dembot that didn’t realize the DOJ was part of the executive branch

He did that long ago.

 

[bripat9643]

2. ... and for Trump's team to concede that DOJ can continue to use "criminal investigative tools" - well, of course, those can be used only if USG has a genuine criminal purpose. It means the Order should allow for dual-purpose national security assessment and criminal purposes.

3. Trump's line of argument also veers into mere assertion that Judge should disbelieve the Declaration by FBI Assistant Director of Counterintelligence that the intelligence assessment and criminal investigation are inseparable.

4. Second, Trump's team has basically nothing - NADA - to say about lack of a FPOTUS' executive privilege over these documents.

Means Trump would lose on merits, and no need for Special Master for these documents. DOJ's brief is excellent on this score.

5. Even if an FPOTUS can assert Exec Privilege over presidential communications, does NOT apply to "state secrets and sensitive information concerning military or diplomatic matters." Read
@mls1776
(discussing Nixon v. GSA and Justice Kavanaugh's views):

The Absence of Any Executive Privilege by a Former President For National Security Secrets

The landmark Supreme Court case that both sides point to — Nixon v. GSA — has an even more important lesson.

www.justsecurity.org

6. Third, as much as this filing is a preview of Trump's defense to criminal charges, he has an _extremely_ weak hand. a) Criminal charges don't depend on classification. b) "Personal records" or whathaveyou, he was given a subpoena (see
@emptywheel

emptywheel

@emptywheel
· 5h
Reminder: This is really about whether Trump timely responded to a subpoena that did not depend on whether he had declassified nuclear docs for shits and giggles.

7. More on weak hand against criminal charges. c) The allusions to key documents (including National Defense Information) being "personal records" is going to be laughed out of court. d) Trump's claims are inconsistent with turning over docs in January and June.

8. e) Trump's lawyers come very close to claiming Trump converted key documents to his personal use (if not key docs, why raise it?) and he knowingly kept all the docs stored at MAL, including ones that should be with Archives. They'd be foolish to put such ideas before a jury



9. Fourth: Judge Cannon should realize if - based off Trump's brief that fails to even contest key points - she rejects USG's narrow request to amend Order for these national security docs, the Court of Appeals will most likely rapidly overturn her order.

<end>

Was this babble supposed to prove something?

 

[Sixties Fan]

 

[bripat9643]

Again, what the fuck are you trying to prove?

 

[Sixties Fan]

haha what happened was you exposed yourself to be a clueless dembot that didn’t realize the DOJ was part of the executive branch

I know it is . But you think that the President can tell the DOJ to do illegal things. It cannot .

The little brat thinks that all DOJ's were like Barr's.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Was this babble supposed to prove something?

Your inadequate responses, or rather DENIALS, is what keeps you on ignore.

What a Brat !!!!

 

[struth]

I know it is . But you think that the President can tell the DOJ to do illegal things. It cannot .

The little brat thinks that all DOJ's were like Barr's.

haha when did i ever say that?? once again yoj are makin things up to deflect from getting g caught being an idiot and unaware of the branches of govt

barr didn’t do anything illegal…it’s as the obama admin that lied on FISA warrants to spy on a political rival.

 

[bripat9643]

I know it is . But you think that the President can tell the DOJ to do illegal things. It cannot .

The little brat thinks that all DOJ's were like Barr's.

When did he ever claim the president could order the DOJ to break the law?

 

[bripat9643]

Your inadequate responses, or rather DENIALS, is what keeps you on ignore.

What a Brat !!!!

Your single digit I.Q. is why you have me on ignore.

 

[Sixties Fan]

 

[Sixties Fan]

 

[Sixties Fan]