I've heard it on here so much enough is enough

The government they established with the Constitution would work fine today.

But too many people have been ignoring the simple document for too long.

It would collapse in a week
The kleptocracy would collapse in a week.

The nation would flourish.
Progressives lack the wit to differentiate between the United States and the Federal government.

They also confuse the nation with Obama. That's why some of them laughably claim that criticism of or disagreement with Obama is treason.

You can only laugh at stupidity like that...and then weep for the nation because they vote.
 
It would collapse in a week
Such little faith you have in the Constitution, and in America.

You have such a poor perception of what an 18th century government was capable of

No way could they operate a 21st century superpower
Of course they could.

What the Constitution wouldn't allow, however, is the vastly bloated leech we have today.

You cannot understand this, but that would be a good thing.
 
Such little faith you have in the Constitution, and in America.

You have such a poor perception of what an 18th century government was capable of

No way could they operate a 21st century superpower
Of course they could.

What the Constitution wouldn't allow, however, is the vastly bloated leech we have today.

You cannot understand this, but that would be a good thing.
Except for the fact that dumbasses as him vote...and are allowed to.
 
Yes, it is. But your interpretation of it is wrong.

The left sees what they want to see, even in a clear, concise document.

Not that I am a founding father or anything....

But if I wanted to be clear and concise, I would have made the second amendment read..

The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed

It that was what I really intended
And yet, oddly, most people knew what they intended all along.

The left got it wrong.

The second amendment is neither clear or concise
That is why it is still argued over 200 years later

If they wanted to be clear they would have just stated the people have a right to bear arms that shall not be infringed

They made it clear they were talking about arming a militia
 
Read the Second Amendment. It's clear and concise. But the left has been insisting it means something different for decades.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed

Seems they wanted to ensure that their militia had access to arms. Now, we have to set up some of those well regulated militias don't we?

Seems clear and concise
Militias arise organically. There is no "we" necessary to set them up.
Only leftists fail to see rugged individualism...they need others to shepherd them...otherwise they are lost.
 
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed

Seems they wanted to ensure that their militia had access to arms. Now, we have to set up some of those well regulated militias don't we?

Seems clear and concise
Militias arise organically. There is no "we" necessary to set them up.

You have no understanding of what "well regulated" means

Our founders did not have a standing army. They relied on militias for defense. The armed rednecks we have today do not foot the bill
"Regulated" means made regular. IOW, for example, the organizations and hierarchies would be common throughout the militias. Rules such as those found in the UCMJ would apply uniformly, or "regularly".

That the feds have abdicated their responsibility to regulate the citizen militias, in favor of operating a professional military-industrial complex, doesn't change anything.

The lack of understanding is all on your part.
 
Such little faith you have in the Constitution, and in America.

You have such a poor perception of what an 18th century government was capable of

No way could they operate a 21st century superpower
Of course they could.

What the Constitution wouldn't allow, however, is the vastly bloated leech we have today.

You cannot understand this, but that would be a good thing.

Dave....you have such a simplistic concept of what a government is

18th century America had an economy and monetary system on the verge of collapse. The government was incapable of understanding the complexities of a modern society, military, treasury, international relations or budget

They would collapse in total confusion in a week
 
Not that I am a founding father or anything....

But if I wanted to be clear and concise, I would have made the second amendment read..

The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed

It that was what I really intended
And yet, oddly, most people knew what they intended all along.

The left got it wrong.

The second amendment is neither clear or concise
That is why it is still argued over 200 years later

If they wanted to be clear they would have just stated the people have a right to bear arms that shall not be infringed

They made it clear they were talking about arming a militia
Ever read the Heller Decision son?

YOU are wrong.
 
Militias arise organically. There is no "we" necessary to set them up.

You have no understanding of what "well regulated" means

Our founders did not have a standing army. They relied on militias for defense. The armed rednecks we have today do not foot the bill
"Regulated" means made regular. IOW, for example, the organizations and hierarchies would be common throughout the militias. Rules such as those found in the UCMJ would apply uniformly, or "regularly".

That the feds have abdicated their responsibility to regulate the citizen militias, in favor of operating a professional military-industrial complex, doesn't change anything.

The lack of understanding is all on your part.

Regulated meant controlled, trained and organized to be an effective fighting force

A bunch of rednecks with shotguns is not a well regulated militia
 
You have such a poor perception of what an 18th century government was capable of

No way could they operate a 21st century superpower
Of course they could.

What the Constitution wouldn't allow, however, is the vastly bloated leech we have today.

You cannot understand this, but that would be a good thing.
Except for the fact that dumbasses as him vote...and are allowed to.
Yes, but we can't take away people's right to vote because we disagree with them...that's a progressive thing.
 
And yet, oddly, most people knew what they intended all along.

The left got it wrong.

The second amendment is neither clear or concise
That is why it is still argued over 200 years later

If they wanted to be clear they would have just stated the people have a right to bear arms that shall not be infringed

They made it clear they were talking about arming a militia
Ever read the Heller Decision son?

YOU are wrong.

Judicial activism rewriting the second amendment to conform to conservative dogma
 
Not that I am a founding father or anything....

But if I wanted to be clear and concise, I would have made the second amendment read..

The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed

It that was what I really intended
And yet, oddly, most people knew what they intended all along.

The left got it wrong.

The second amendment is neither clear or concise
That is why it is still argued over 200 years later

If they wanted to be clear they would have just stated the people have a right to bear arms that shall not be infringed

They made it clear they were talking about arming a militia
Reality says differently.

You can argue with reality, but you will not win.
 
And yet, oddly, most people knew what they intended all along.

The left got it wrong.

The second amendment is neither clear or concise
That is why it is still argued over 200 years later

If they wanted to be clear they would have just stated the people have a right to bear arms that shall not be infringed

They made it clear they were talking about arming a militia
Reality says differently.

You can argue with reality, but you will not win.
He argues against truth all the time. Fact is truth has no agenda...HE does. He loses in the end. He just doesn't know it yet.
 
You have such a poor perception of what an 18th century government was capable of

No way could they operate a 21st century superpower
Of course they could.

What the Constitution wouldn't allow, however, is the vastly bloated leech we have today.

You cannot understand this, but that would be a good thing.

Dave....you have such a simplistic concept of what a government is

18th century America had an economy and monetary system on the verge of collapse. The government was incapable of understanding the complexities of a modern society, military, treasury, international relations or budget

They would collapse in total confusion in a week
Wrong. The economy can handle itself just fine -- if the fucking government gets out of the damn way.
 
Of course they could.

What the Constitution wouldn't allow, however, is the vastly bloated leech we have today.

You cannot understand this, but that would be a good thing.

Dave....you have such a simplistic concept of what a government is

18th century America had an economy and monetary system on the verge of collapse. The government was incapable of understanding the complexities of a modern society, military, treasury, international relations or budget

They would collapse in total confusion in a week
Wrong. The economy can handle itself just fine -- if the fucking government gets out of the damn way.

We saw what happens when the government gets out of the way.......Economic collapse of 2008

Sure ....let those banks do what they want. They always know best
 
You have no understanding of what "well regulated" means

Our founders did not have a standing army. They relied on militias for defense. The armed rednecks we have today do not foot the bill
"Regulated" means made regular. IOW, for example, the organizations and hierarchies would be common throughout the militias. Rules such as those found in the UCMJ would apply uniformly, or "regularly".

That the feds have abdicated their responsibility to regulate the citizen militias, in favor of operating a professional military-industrial complex, doesn't change anything.

The lack of understanding is all on your part.

Regulated meant controlled, trained and organized to be an effective fighting force

A bunch of rednecks with shotguns is not a well regulated militia
Regulated meant and continues to mean to be made regular. Training and organizing would be part of that regularity.

But the feds have abandoned that obligation. That is no fault of the "bunch of rednecks" that you so snobbishly look down your nose upon.
 
"Regulated" means made regular. IOW, for example, the organizations and hierarchies would be common throughout the militias. Rules such as those found in the UCMJ would apply uniformly, or "regularly".

That the feds have abdicated their responsibility to regulate the citizen militias, in favor of operating a professional military-industrial complex, doesn't change anything.

The lack of understanding is all on your part.

Regulated meant controlled, trained and organized to be an effective fighting force

A bunch of rednecks with shotguns is not a well regulated militia
Regulated meant and continues to mean to be made regular. Training and organizing would be part of that regularity.

But the feds have abandoned that obligation. That is no fault of the "bunch of rednecks" that you so snobbishly look down your nose upon.

You mean they don't even provide their own arms anymore?
 
And yet, oddly, most people knew what they intended all along.

The left got it wrong.

The second amendment is neither clear or concise
That is why it is still argued over 200 years later

If they wanted to be clear they would have just stated the people have a right to bear arms that shall not be infringed

They made it clear they were talking about arming a militia
Reality says differently.

You can argue with reality, but you will not win.

You and reality diverged a long time ago
 
Regulated meant controlled, trained and organized to be an effective fighting force

A bunch of rednecks with shotguns is not a well regulated militia
Regulated meant and continues to mean to be made regular. Training and organizing would be part of that regularity.

But the feds have abandoned that obligation. That is no fault of the "bunch of rednecks" that you so snobbishly look down your nose upon.

You mean they don't even provide their own arms anymore?
I mean that you haven't the first idea of what you're talking about.

But extremely few partisan hard leftists ever do.
 
Regulated meant and continues to mean to be made regular. Training and organizing would be part of that regularity.

But the feds have abandoned that obligation. That is no fault of the "bunch of rednecks" that you so snobbishly look down your nose upon.

You mean they don't even provide their own arms anymore?
I mean that you haven't the first idea of what you're talking about.

But extremely few partisan hard leftists ever do.

We are talking about well regulated militias and how they are no longer relevant in a modern society
 

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