Jan. 6th, The Law, and Nancy Pelosi's Dereliction of Duty

[Faun]

That was before the riot. Try the truth.

Holy shit, you fucking idiot.

Before confirming each state's results, the chair asks members of that state if they object. They do that alphabetically, starting with Alabama. They went into an emergency recess while wrapping up the objection into Arizona. When they resumed after Trump's riot, they proceded with Arkansas.

Pennsylvania comes well after Arizona, FruitLoops. Your nonsense about Pelosi passing a rule to disallow further objections is as delirious as any of your other bullshit claims about fraud.

 

[elektra]

Because the police were grossly outnumbered.

I know, but it's fun. And I'm only here for fun.

Damn, Faun help me define points establishing dereliction of duty.

Grossly? Sounds like they were grossly scared snowflakes that should not of been hired in the first place or ordered to stand down. Which is it Faun, you are too weak to stop the man in horns, ordered to stand down, or ignored when calling the Capitol Police Board.

 

[Lastamender]

Holy shit, you fucking idiot.

Before confirming each state's results, the chair asks members of that state if they object. They do that alphabetically, starting with Alabama. They went into an emergency recess while wrapping up the objection into Arizona. When they resumed after Trump's riot, they proceded with Arkansas.

Pennsylvania comes well after Arizona, FruitLoops. Your nonsense about Pelosi passing a rule to disallow further objections is as delirious as any of your other bullshit claims about fraud.

No it is not a lie. You are lying but what else is new? Read this fuckface.
♦ Q5: Why did the motions, once that the speaker RECONVENED congress, move forward back again to the floor for votes? Why were members disallowed to even consider putting forward ANY motions to the floor in when the chamber business was reopened?


A: The Speaker initiated the NEW sessions under special emergency rules. These rules abandon and make it clear that the ONLY purpose of the new session was to EXPEDITE the certification and dismiss all prior regular session procedural rules. This is why those two motions to table votes to consider a debate and pause to the certifications of state vote electors never happened later that evening when the house business was reconvened!

The Parliamentary Motive Behind the J6 Fedsurrection - The Last Refuge

The Ring of Truth – “I am too well accustomed to the taking of evidence not to detect the ring of truth.” 1908, Edith Wharton Much has been made of the events of January 6, 2021, and with the latest broadcast of CCTV video from inside the Capitol Hill complex, more questions have been raised. […]

theconservativetreehouse.com

 

[Lastamender]

Note from Author: “I started this effort years ago. To date, no one and I mean no one has replied. It’s as if everyone that can expose it that has a larger platform is either disinterested, or suspiciously withdrawn from the issue. I made several comments about this over the years right here at CTH, on article threads that are relevant to the topic.
I was watching the certification live that day. I recorded it ALL on every channel. I was doing this because no matter what happened that day, I KNEW IT WOULD BE A PROFOUND AND SIGNIFICANT EVENT TO REMEMBER. I never in my wildest imagination (and I have a pretty vivid imagination, always have), expected to see the unmistakable perfectly timed “coincidences” that occurred.


One member raises a motion (with another in waiting for his turn) those two motions were well known and advertised. These were motions to vote for a pause in the certification to examine electoral vote fraud and irregularities. I can’t speak to the veracity and substance of those motions. They were never allowed to even be floored. it was at that exact moment that the house chambers were suspended and 4 of the key members, Pence, Pelosi, Schumer and McConnell were escorted OUT right after initiating the end of the session.


Effectively, this resulted in that motion never being floored at all. Then, when reconvened under special emergency rules, inexplicably those two motions (and perhaps more – we will never know – or will we?) were not even attempted to be motioned. That was not just peculiar to me.


It all started to make more sense when I did some study on constitutional law AND THE HISTORY of specific special authorities given to president of the congress, Pence in this case. Not only did he have the authority and power to suspend the certification, but the duty to address the motion in the same sense that it becomes vital to the debate clause.


There really is no higher significance of weight given to the debate clause than the certification of the votes. This was more than odd to me the way that the media and pence framed their narrative: Pence would not have the constitutional power to suspend certification. Then it hit me, like the obvious clue that was there all the time. He was right. But the reason he is right, is because there WAS NO MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO CAUSE HIM TO SUSPEND!

Same link as post #903. Faun is lying and has been lying about this. This clinched the coup for the uniparty.

 

[Faun]

Damn, Faun help me define points establishing dereliction of duty.

Grossly? Sounds like they were grossly scared snowflakes that should not of been hired in the first place or ordered to stand down. Which is it Faun, you are too weak to stop the man in horns, ordered to stand down, or ignored when calling the Capitol Police Board.
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On behalf of the brave Capitol Police -- fuck you.

 

[Lastamender]

On behalf of the brave Capitol Police -- fuck you.

 

[Lastamender]

Faun's disappearance validates everything I have said about the rule change that stole the election.

 

[Faun]

No it is not a lie. You are lying but what else is new? Read this fuckface.
♦ Q5: Why did the motions, once that the speaker RECONVENED congress, move forward back again to the floor for votes? Why were members disallowed to even consider putting forward ANY motions to the floor in when the chamber business was reopened?


A: The Speaker initiated the NEW sessions under special emergency rules. These rules abandon and make it clear that the ONLY purpose of the new session was to EXPEDITE the certification and dismiss all prior regular session procedural rules. This is why those two motions to table votes to consider a debate and pause to the certifications of state vote electors never happened later that evening when the house business was reconvened!

The Parliamentary Motive Behind the J6 Fedsurrection - The Last Refuge

The Ring of Truth – “I am too well accustomed to the taking of evidence not to detect the ring of truth.” 1908, Edith Wharton Much has been made of the events of January 6, 2021, and with the latest broadcast of CCTV video from inside the Capitol Hill complex, more questions have been raised. […]

theconservativetreehouse.com

Sadly, you're too deranged to comprehend that's not what you claimed. You said a rule was passed to not allow debate. And you said Pennsylvania objected before the riot.

 

[Lastamender]

Sadly, you're too deranged to comprehend that's not what you claimed. You said a rule was passed to not allow debate. And you said Pennsylvania objected before the riot.

You are missing the point. The rule was changed because of the riot. It was planned that way. The election was stolen. You have been caught lying through your teeth.

 

[Faun]

Note from Author: “I started this effort years ago. To date, no one and I mean no one has replied. It’s as if everyone that can expose it that has a larger platform is either disinterested, or suspiciously withdrawn from the issue. I made several comments about this over the years right here at CTH, on article threads that are relevant to the topic.
I was watching the certification live that day. I recorded it ALL on every channel. I was doing this because no matter what happened that day, I KNEW IT WOULD BE A PROFOUND AND SIGNIFICANT EVENT TO REMEMBER. I never in my wildest imagination (and I have a pretty vivid imagination, always have), expected to see the unmistakable perfectly timed “coincidences” that occurred.


One member raises a motion (with another in waiting for his turn) those two motions were well known and advertised. These were motions to vote for a pause in the certification to examine electoral vote fraud and irregularities. I can’t speak to the veracity and substance of those motions. They were never allowed to even be floored. it was at that exact moment that the house chambers were suspended and 4 of the key members, Pence, Pelosi, Schumer and McConnell were escorted OUT right after initiating the end of the session.


Effectively, this resulted in that motion never being floored at all. Then, when reconvened under special emergency rules, inexplicably those two motions (and perhaps more – we will never know – or will we?) were not even attempted to be motioned. That was not just peculiar to me.


It all started to make more sense when I did some study on constitutional law AND THE HISTORY of specific special authorities given to president of the congress, Pence in this case. Not only did he have the authority and power to suspend the certification, but the duty to address the motion in the same sense that it becomes vital to the debate clause.


There really is no higher significance of weight given to the debate clause than the certification of the votes. This was more than odd to me the way that the media and pence framed their narrative: Pence would not have the constitutional power to suspend certification. Then it hit me, like the obvious clue that was there all the time. He was right. But the reason he is right, is because there WAS NO MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO CAUSE HIM TO SUSPEND!

Same link as post #903. Faun is lying and has been lying about this. This clinched the coup for the uniparty.

More nonsense. Each house were in their respective chambers debating the objection to Arizona when they recessed because Trump's thugs were already inside the building. So that narrative is flawed from the start.

Even if they tried to enter such a motion, Pence had no Constitutional authority to delay the count since the Constitution only granted him the authority to open and count the votes, which was mandatory.

 

[Faun]

Over 1000 Trump supporters went to prison for that. I find that funny too.

 

[Faun]

Faun's disappearance validates everything I have said about the rule change that stole the election.

LOL

"Disappearance," FruitLoops? You mean not living on this forum?

You you ever not deranged?

Ever??

 

[Lastamender]

More nonsense. Each house were in their respective chambers debating the objection to Arizona when they recessed because Trump's thugs were already inside the building. So that narrative is flawed from the start.

Even if they tried to enter such a motion, Pence had no Constitutional authority to delay the count since the Constitution only granted him the authority to open and count the votes, which was mandatory.

Bullshit. We are tired of your excuses only backed by liars like yourself.

 

[Faun]

You are missing the point. The rule was changed because of the riot. It was planned that way. The election was stolen. You have been caught lying through your teeth.

The riot was caused by Trump supporters, summoned to the Capitol by Trump himself. If there was an emergency rule enforced, I love the irony that it's because of Trump.

 

[Lastamender]

Over 1000 Trump supporters went to prison for that. I find that funny too.

You find the destruction of this country funny. You are simply a POS.

 

[Faun]

Bullshit. We are tired of your excuses only backed by liars like yourself.

The Constitution isn't bullshit, FruitLoops. It states that's the extent of the VP's role that day...

the President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;​

... notice the word, "shall." Means he has to open and count the votes. Not declare he's not opening or counting them.

 

[Lastamender]

The riot was caused by Trump supporters, summoned to the Capitol by Trump himself. If there was an emergency rule enforced, I love the irony that it's because of Trump.

The riot was caused by FBI and DHS agents. That is why the FBI will not answer any questions. Identify everyone there and then we will talk. They have the technology to do it, why don't they?

 

[Faun]

You find the destruction of this country funny. You are simply a POS.

No, FruitLoops. I find it funny that they went to prison after you laughed at that violent mob attacking police.

 

[Faun]

The riot was caused by FBI and DHS agents. That is why the FBI will not answer any questions. Identify everyone there and then we will talk. They have the technology to do it, why don't they?

 

[Lastamender]

The Constitution isn't bullshit, FruitLoops. It states that's the extent of the VP's role that day...

the President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;​

... notice the word, "shall." Means he has to open and count the votes. Not declare he's not opening or counting them.

It says more than that. pence could have sent the election back to the states for further investigation.