NYcarbineer
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How's that Obama foreign policy of withdrawal and appeasement working out?
Very well, actually. The rest of the world is starting to show up.
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How's that Obama foreign policy of withdrawal and appeasement working out?
the ONE THING our government is SUPPOSE to do is provide and pay for a military that is up to the standard of protecting US AND OUR COUNTRY
what are they afraid it will cut into their welfare payments?
I get disgusted when I see these people whining over our military.
If the entire U.S. budget was spent on military strength, America still wouldn't be safe from terrorists - domestic or foreign.
Did jeb vote for the war? The hilary did. You're going to vote for the hilary.....and is exactly the reason why that you have no credibility and are a complete laughingstock.
That's why the enthusiasm for Hillary on the left is not what you might think it is.
Really who is showing up?How's that Obama foreign policy of withdrawal and appeasement working out?
Very well, actually. The rest of the world is starting to show up.
Really who is showing up?How's that Obama foreign policy of withdrawal and appeasement working out?
Very well, actually. The rest of the world is starting to show up.
By drawing red lines, then backing down?Thats why he's asking for more authority with ISIS? Becaue his previous strategy worked so well?MORE military spending will not defeat terrorism - it must be SMART military spending. President Obama is using our military forces and budget much smarter than Bush did.
ISIS is an evolving problem that requires an evolving strategy. How did Bush fight terrorism? Obama is playing chess, Bush played checkers...poorly.
If the entire U.S. budget was spent on military strength, America still wouldn't be safe from terrorists - domestic or foreign.
Did jeb vote for the war? The hilary did. You're going to vote for the hilary.....and is exactly the reason why that you have no credibility and are a complete laughingstock.
Marine Corpse?????Jeb Bungles Facts, Pronunciation in His Big National Security Speech
Trying to sound presidential, Bush instead came off like a confused former governor.
Likely presidential candidate Jeb Bush delivered a nervous, uncertain speech on national security Wednesday, full of errors and confusion.
Seeking to differentiate himself from his father and brother, both former presidents, the former governor of Florida asserted, “I am my own man.”
But the man who emerged on stage at the Chicago Council on Global Affairs did not sound well-versed in foreign policy.
Bush’s clunky, rushed delivery paled in comparison to the hazy facts in the speech and vague answers he gave during a Q&A session following his remarks.
Speaking of the extremist group based in Nigeria that has killed thousands of civilians, Bush referred to Boko Haram as “Beau-coup Haram.” Bush also referred to Iraq when he meant to refer to Iran.
Further, Bush misrepresented the strength of ISIS, saying it has some 200,000 men, which is far greater than the U.S. intelligence community’s estimates. Last week National Counterterrorism Center Director Nicholas Rasmussen pegged the fighting strength of ISIS at between 20,000 and 31,500.
“Governor Bush misspoke,” Bush aide Kristy Campbell told The Daily Beast after the speech. “He meant 20,000.”
Referring to the leader of the so-called Islamic State, Bush referred to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi as “the guy that’s the supreme leader or whatever his new title is—head of the caliphate.”
Bush was also short on describing how he might combat the threat of ISIS. “Taking them out” in partnership with regional allies was about as specific as he got.
“We have to develop a strategy, that’s global, that takes them out,” Bush said. “First, the strategy, you know, needs to be restrain them, tighten the noose, and then taking them out is the strategy.”
More: Jeb Bungles Facts, Pronunciation in His Big National Security Speech - The Daily Beast
Sounds like Jeb ain't ready for prime time. Reminds me of his brother - and Sarah Palin.
Playing chess? Damn son! He's sacrificed the queen, one knight, a bishop and both rooks. If he pulls this shit out, he's a friggin grand master.Thats why he's asking for more authority with ISIS? Becaue his previous strategy worked so well?MORE military spending will not defeat terrorism - it must be SMART military spending. President Obama is using our military forces and budget much smarter than Bush did.
ISIS is an evolving problem that requires an evolving strategy. How did Bush fight terrorism? Obama is playing chess, Bush played checkers...poorly.
And the same tied rhetoric from Liberals.WASHINGTON -- Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush will lay out a vision of American foreign policy on Wednesday aimed at pushing his nascent 2016 presidential campaign out of the shadow of his father and brother, two former presidents who waged overseas wars.
"I love my father and my brother … But I am my own man –- and my views are shaped by my own thinking and own experiences," Bush will say in a speech to the Chicago Council on Global Affairs, according to excerpts provided to reporters late Tuesday night.
In his first major foreign policy address, the likely 2016 Republican front-runner will make the case for increased military spending so America can "project power and enforce peaceful stability in far-off areas of the globe." He will also criticize President Barack Obama's foreign policy, calling it "inconsistent and indecisive."
"Having a military that is equal to any threat ... makes it less likely that we will need to put our men and women in uniform in harm’s way," Bush plans to tell attendees, adding that he believes "fundamentally, that weakness invites war… and strength encourages peace."
The idea that a bigger U.S. military would act as a bigger deterrent to potential foes is one that reached its apex during the Cold War, but has been repeatedly challenged in the 21st century by the rise of global terrorism and sectarian conflicts.
More: Jeb Bush's Foreign Policy Plan: More Military Spending Will 'Encourage Peace'
So, Jeb plans to ride the boogeyman to the White House. More Bush fearmongering and warmongering.
Goddam, the same exact failed policies of over a generation of establishment Republicans:
Increase military spending while cutting taxes, thus not paying for it, thus ballooning the deficit.
Intervention, entanglement, imperialism, foreign meddling. The perpetual war that will eventually destroy the US.
You kill them all and make their would be replacements afraid of dying. Rinse, repeat, ad infinitum.How do you defeat an enemy who isn't afraid of dying? It's hard.
You kill them all and make their would be replacements afraid of dying. Rinse, repeat, ad infinitum.How do you defeat an enemy who isn't afraid of dying? It's hard.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Credible enough for you?You kill them all and make their would be replacements afraid of dying. Rinse, repeat, ad infinitum.How do you defeat an enemy who isn't afraid of dying? It's hard.
Just like most of the other shit you post - distorted and untrue. Try giving us some "credible" sources to back up your claims.
ah preaching more stupid i see rabbi..good job.Let's see: Clinton cut the military and we ended up with 9/11 and al Qaeda. Bush restored the military and we had zero attacks on American soil. Obama cut the military and we have ISIS.
See a pattern here?
The truth is stupid now? How about you show us what is stupid about what the man said, boy.ah preaching more stupid i see rabbi..good job.Let's see: Clinton cut the military and we ended up with 9/11 and al Qaeda. Bush restored the military and we had zero attacks on American soil. Obama cut the military and we have ISIS.
See a pattern here?
Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Credible enough for you?You kill them all and make their would be replacements afraid of dying. Rinse, repeat, ad infinitum.How do you defeat an enemy who isn't afraid of dying? It's hard.
Just like most of the other shit you post - distorted and untrue. Try giving us some "credible" sources to back up your claims.
The truth is stupid now? How about you show us what is stupid about what the man said, boy.ah preaching more stupid i see rabbi..good job.Let's see: Clinton cut the military and we ended up with 9/11 and al Qaeda. Bush restored the military and we had zero attacks on American soil. Obama cut the military and we have ISIS.
See a pattern here?
That backs up my claim. Nice try, though.Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Credible enough for you?You kill them all and make their would be replacements afraid of dying. Rinse, repeat, ad infinitum.How do you defeat an enemy who isn't afraid of dying? It's hard.
Just like most of the other shit you post - distorted and untrue. Try giving us some "credible" sources to back up your claims.
No, that's just a retarded deflection.
9/11 Congressional Report Faults F.B.I.-C.I.A. LapsesThe truth is stupid now? How about you show us what is stupid about what the man said, boy.ah preaching more stupid i see rabbi..good job.Let's see: Clinton cut the military and we ended up with 9/11 and al Qaeda. Bush restored the military and we had zero attacks on American soil. Obama cut the military and we have ISIS.
See a pattern here?
When did 9-11 happen? who created the Aq? It wasnt Clinton. Spending your way via defense isnt the solution. You military industrial complex cons are an issue as much as big spending liberals are.
Bush didn't create AQ, but clinton allowed it to grow unimpeded.In 1995, while America’s intelligence agencies were still investigating al Qaeda's 1993 terrorist bombing of the World Trade Center, the Clinton administration strengthened FISA to a degree that was unprecedented. Specifically, Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick called for increased restrictions on information-sharing between intelligence (CIA) and law-enforcement (FBI) agencies. In a 1995 memo to then-FBI Director Louis Freeh and U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White, titled “Instructions on Separation of Certain Foreign Counterintelligence and Criminal Investigations,” Gorelick wrote the following:

“We believe that it is prudent to establish a set of instructions that will more clearly separate the counterintelligence investigation from the more limited, but continued, criminal investigations. These procedures, which go beyond what is legally required, will prevent any risk of creating an unwarranted appearance that FISA is being used to avoid procedural safeguards which would apply in a criminal investigation.”
9/11 Congressional Report Faults F.B.I.-C.I.A. LapsesThe truth is stupid now? How about you show us what is stupid about what the man said, boy.ah preaching more stupid i see rabbi..good job.Let's see: Clinton cut the military and we ended up with 9/11 and al Qaeda. Bush restored the military and we had zero attacks on American soil. Obama cut the military and we have ISIS.
See a pattern here?
When did 9-11 happen? who created the Aq? It wasnt Clinton. Spending your way via defense isnt the solution. You military industrial complex cons are an issue as much as big spending liberals are.
By DAVID JOHNSTON
Published: July 24, 2003
WASHINGTON, July 23— The Sept. 11 attacks were preventable, but the plot went undetected because of communications lapses between the F.B.I. and C.I.A., which failed to share intelligence related to two hijackers, a Congressional report to be released on Thursday says.
The report, by a joint committee of the House and Senate intelligence panels, found that for nearly two years before the attacks, the Central Intelligence Agency knew about the terror connections between the two men, Khalid al-Midhar and Nawaq Alhazmi, who in 2000 moved to San Diego, frequenting Muslim circles that the Federal Bureau of Investigation had infiltrated.
Then there's this:
Bush didn't create AQ, but clinton allowed it to grow unimpeded.In 1995, while America’s intelligence agencies were still investigating al Qaeda's 1993 terrorist bombing of the World Trade Center, the Clinton administration strengthened FISA to a degree that was unprecedented. Specifically, Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick called for increased restrictions on information-sharing between intelligence (CIA) and law-enforcement (FBI) agencies. In a 1995 memo to then-FBI Director Louis Freeh and U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White, titled “Instructions on Separation of Certain Foreign Counterintelligence and Criminal Investigations,” Gorelick wrote the following:

“We believe that it is prudent to establish a set of instructions that will more clearly separate the counterintelligence investigation from the more limited, but continued, criminal investigations. These procedures, which go beyond what is legally required, will prevent any risk of creating an unwarranted appearance that FISA is being used to avoid procedural safeguards which would apply in a criminal investigation.”