Jimmy Carter In Hospice Care

[WinterBorn]

That's pretty silly, considering the fact that Iran is working with Russia and China as we speak, and is responsible for the deaths of thousands of Americans in Iraq.
You might want to read a book and learn about the Middle-East. It's difficult to keep a ME country peaceful and prosperous without some sort of authoritarian government in place.
They either have to have a secular dictator in place or a bunch of Mullahs cutting off heads periodically to keep them in line.
They don't really understand Western Democracies.

Oh I have no delusions about the Middleeast.

But what I said about the UK & US overthrowing a democratically elected Prime Minister, at the request of BP, is accurate.

And the Shah was a brutal sonofabitch. His secret police tortured and murdered thousands of Iranians. People remember that sort of thing. And they remember who put them in power.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Turned over the Panama Canal to China and helped turn Iran into an Islamic terrorist state.
That's pretty evil.

Mocked Americans that were suffering from his abysmal policies. Laughed at his own misery index.

 

[mudwhistle]

Oh I have no delusions about the Middleeast.

But what I said about the UK & US overthrowing a democratically elected Prime Minister, at the request of BP, is accurate.

And the Shah was a brutal sonofabitch. His secret police tortured and murdered thousands of Iranians. People remember that sort of thing. And they remember who put them in power.

I don't think the Shah was all that bad compared to the religious nutcases that are in charge now.
I learned Farsi from some of the folks that lived in Iran before the fall of the Shah.
Life was pretty good for them.
Iran was one of the richest countries in the ME back then.
Now all they do is make deals with Russia, murder their own people, and spread terrorism all over the globe.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

That's pretty silly, considering the fact that Iran is working with Russia and China as we speak, and is responsible for the deaths of thousands of Americans in Iraq.
You might want to read a book and learn about the Middle-East. It's difficult to keep a ME country peaceful and prosperous without some sort of authoritarian government in place.
They either have to have a secular dictator in place or a bunch of Mullahs cutting off heads periodically to keep them in line.
They don't really understand Western Democracies.

Pretty silly since Iranians considered the Shah a great leader who modernized Iran and brought freedom to the people. It's not like rule by Ayatollah has been gentle or desired.

Jimmy Carter is despised by Iranians but not worse than shitstain barack obama. He promised support for the Green Revolution, promised support then at the last instant betrayed the movement to the Ayatollah who slaughtered hundreds of people.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Turned over the Panama Canal to China and helped turn Iran into an Islamic terrorist state.
That's pretty evil.

The problem with Carter, despite a multitude of people telling him otherwise, he thought that by placating, paying homage, giving in to everything bad governments wanted - they would all start thinking like we do and be nice.
That is the heart of why Carter was such a bad President. His naivety and refusal to accept there are simply bad people in the world - he endangered America for decades to come.

 

[mudwhistle]

The problem with Carter, despite a multitude of people telling him otherwise, he thought that by placating, paying homage, giving in to everything bad governments wanted - they would all start thinking like we do and be nice.
That is the heart of why Carter was such a bad President. His naivety and refusal to accept there are simply bad people in the world - he endangered America for decades to come.

That was something that I kept being reminded of in the Clinton, Obama, and now the Biden administrations.
The absolute spinelessness of all of them.
They're so woke that they think offending our mortal enemies is worse than screwing Americans out of their retirement funds. The possibility that China, or some other scumbag country, might be offended by our habit of protecting our sovereignty is unimaginable to Democrats.
They'd eat a mile of their shit rather than do something that protects Americans from foreign intrusions.

 

[Circe]

I think I'll celebrate with a bag of peanuts.

Nah, he wasn't that bad. And before my time.

He was a better ex-President than a president. And he was not before my time. Remember the rabbit that got into the White House Swimming Pool? His swimming desperately away from it just wasn't a good look.

98!! Are we all amazed how OLD people are living these days? Now, there is one of the few good changes going on.

 

[Circe]

Problem is that he was in way over his head.

Yeah, that. The hostage crisis, the oil crisis, the economy wilting, the derivative cardigan-sweater talks in which he said it was all our fault, that America had a "malaise" ---- he simply wasn't up to the job, and we should remember that can happen.

I worry about Caramel Harris that way, that even leaving the left-right thing out of it for a moment, she shows worse signs by far than Carter did of just plain not being up to such a job. Not able or smart enough. That turns out to be a serious problem ---- look at all the terrible emergencies there were during the Carter administration. Enemies just jump on an opportunity like that.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

That was something that I kept being reminded of in the Clinton, Obama, and now the Biden administrations.
The absolute spinelessness of all of them.
They're so woke that they think offending our mortal enemies is worse than screwing Americans out of their retirement funds. The possibility that China, or some other scumbag country, might be offended by our habit of protecting our sovereignty is unimaginable to Democrats.
They'd eat a mile of their shit rather than do something that protects Americans from foreign intrusions.

It is built in to their virtue signaling brain.
Their intense need to feed their narcissistic desire to project moral superiority far-far outweighs anything else. And why they can be such absolute failures, yet still praised by their supporters.

 

[basquebromance]

 

[mudwhistle]

It is built in to their virtue signaling brain.
Their intense need to feed their narcissistic desire to project moral superiority far-far outweighs anything else. And why they can be such absolute failures, yet still praised by their supporters.

They still think they can make foreigners like them if they sell out America to them.
Truth is foreign countries despise them....and would take them out and shoot them in the head if they did to their countries what they're doing to ours.

 

[basquebromance]

Jonathan Alter worked on Ted Kennedy's primary campaign against Carter in 1979. in 2020, Alter wrote a long biography about Carter, praising him profusely throughout

that's how decent a man Carter was, that's the effect he had on people

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Sucks. He was a terrible President but a great humanitarian.

 

[basquebromance]

In HIS VERY BEST, Jonathan Alter argues that President Jimmy Carter was "a surprisingly consequential president — a political and stylistic failure but a substantive and far-sighted success."

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/918289286/his-very-best-calls-jimmy-carter-perhaps-the-most-misunderstood-president?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=books&utm_term=artsculture&utm_content=20200930

 

[Lakhota]

 

[basquebromance]

Near the end of WWII the Holy Crown of Hungary was given to the US Army so the Soviet Union couldn’t get it. The US brought it to Fort Knox until Jimmy Carter verified it to be legitimate and ordered it to be returned to Hungary in 1978

Former US President Jimmy Carter Celebrates 40th Anniversary of Holy Crown’s Return to Hungary – Updated

In a letter to the leaders of Hungarian Baptist Aid in Washington, DC, former United States President Jimmy Carter marked the 40th anniversary of the return of the Holy Crown to Hungary. Writing to to Hungarian Baptist Aid head Sándor Szenczy, the 93-year-old Carter recalled that the return of...

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[basquebromance]

Amazon.com.br

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excerpt from the book:

It was just hours before the first day of summer, and the sunny weather in DC, was perfect for a leisurely drive in the country. But June 20, 1979, was the wrong day for Wednesday golf or a picnic at Bull Run. That week, more than half of the nation’s gas stations were running out of gas.

Washington Post reported that local authorities were inundated with requests for carpools from angry motorists who couldn’t get to work, yet a small collection of harried reporters and dignitaries managed to find transportation to the WH. There the beleaguered POTUS was preparing yet another announcement that would lead to eye rolling in the press corps and make little news. The only thing that stood out then about this seemingly minor event was its unusual location: the West Wing roof.

The spring and summer gas shortages marked the worst of a depressing 1979, a year that would later see the seizure of American hostages in Iran and the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. “Gas stations closed up like someone died,” John Updike wrote in his novel Rabbit Is Rich. For a generation bonded to cars the way the next would be to smartphones, this was traumatic. Millions of Americans missed work, canceled vacations, and pointed fingers. Public opinion surveys in June 1979 showed Carter’s approval ratings in the Gallup poll plummeting to 28 percent, the lowest of his presidency and comparable to Nixon’s when he resigned 5 years earlier. VP Walter Mondale later cracked that the Carter WH had gone to the dogs—and become “the nation’s fire hydrant.”

Events all year were largely out of his control, wreaking havoc on the American economy. First came a decision by the OPEC to jack up global oil prices by 14.5 percent virtually overnight—an effort to exploit strikes in Iranian oil fields against the teetering shah of Iran. After the shah fled into exile and was replaced in February by Khomeini, Iranian oil exports to the US ceased altogether. Over the next eighteen months, oil prices doubled to nearly $40 a barrel. This represented an astonishing thirteenfold increase in a decade. “Energy is our Vietnam,” a WH aide told Newsweek.

By the following year, inflation—driven in large part by energy prices—would pass 12 percent, with unemployment over 7% for a combined “misery index” of nearly 20 percent. Yet harder to imagine in the twenty-first century was that interest rates in 1980 hit an eye-popping 19%t. Even if everything else had gone right for Carter in 1979 and 1980—which it most definitely did not—that was a gale-force economic wind blowing in his face as he sought reelection against Reagan.

At one thirty on June 20, the president climbed an inner staircase to the roof of the West Wing, known as the West Terrace, where he emerged into the bright sunlight for an energy announcement that had nothing directly to do with gas lines. “I’ve arranged for this ceremony to be illuminated by solar power,” Carter joked, as the audience squinted into the sun. He proposed $1 billion in federal funding for solar research, a $100 million “solar bank” offering credits to home owners who installed primitive solar units, and a goal of 20 percent of the nation’s energy coming from renewable sources by the year 2000—just one part of his effort to prepare the United States for a greener future.

The event was meant to publicize an energy source that for years had been of interest mostly to tinkerers and readers of the counterculture Whole Earth Catalog but was finally beginning to make its way into the liberal mainstream. To symbolize his commitment to solar, Carter dedicated the rooftop installation of a $28,000 hot water heating system—built by Szego—that would be used for portions of the ground floor of the West Wing.

Like so much else about his presidency, placing a solar unit on the White House roof did Carter no political good at the time. His critics, if they noticed at all, saw it as a stunt to deflect blame from the gas crisis. Carter understood this but didn’t care. He meant for the solar panels—visible from Pennsylvania Avenue—to be a symbol of his faith in American ingenuity to tackle the nation’s toughest long-term problems.

The president’s goal was to develop clean, nonpolluting energy sources and independence from Arab oil. He didn’t mention combating climate change, though, the following year, his White House would raise the first official warnings about global warming anywhere in the world.

Solar power has since become the fastest-growing source of electricity in the United States. It represents just one of many ways a significant American president—buffeted by events—peered over the horizon.

Throughout Jimmy Carter’s long life, classmates, colleagues, and friends—even members of his own family—found him hard to read. The enigma deepened in the presidency.

He was a disciplined and incorruptible president equipped with a sharp, omnivorous mind; a calm and adult president, dependable in a crisis; a friendless president who, in the 1976 primaries, had defeated or alienated a good portion of the Democratic Party; a stubborn and acerbic president, never demeaning but sometimes cold; a nonideological president who worshipped science along with God and saw governing as a series of engineering problem sets; an austere, even spartan president out of sync with American consumer culture; a focused president whose diamond-cutter attention to detail brought ridicule but also historic results; a charming president in small groups and when speaking off the cuff but awkward in front of a teleprompter and often allergic to small talk and to offering a simple “Thank you”; an insular, all-business president who seemed sometimes to prefer humanity to human beings but prayed for the strength to do better.

For some in Carter’s orbit, his impatient and occasionally persnickety style—a few dubbed him “the grammarian in chief” for correcting their memos—would mean that their respect would turn to reverence and love only in later years. Only then did many of those who served in his administration fully understand that he had accomplished much more in office than even they knew.

Beyond faith, ambition, and grit, there was one constant in the complexity of his story. Today almost every politician wants to be seen as an outsider; Carter was the real thing. He was elected governor by campaigning against Atlanta’s insider “big money boys,” then became a pariah to the rednecks who had put him in office. Beginning at 0 percent in the polls, he essentially invented the now-commonplace outsider presidential bid, which was both a campaign strategy and an authentic reflection of his nature. And in office, he avoided clubby relations with Congress and the Washington establishment.
Even Carter’s political orientation lay outside the standard categories. He wasn’t an angry populist, like his grandfather’s patron, Tom Watson, or a devotee of the New Deal, which his father came to loathe. His political roots are easier to discern in the progressive traditions of the turn of the twentieth century, which stressed reform and rejection of special interests. The rest was hard to pigeonhole: he shared TR’s conservationist ethic and championing of health and safety regulation; Wilson’s diplomatic courage and global ideals; Coolidge’s personal and budget austerity; Hoover’s engineering background and humanitarian impulses; FDR’s longheaded concern for future generations; and JFKennedy’s “idealism without illusions.” His altruistic postpresidency was rivaled only by that of John Quincy Adams—another one-term president—who worked against slavery when he was elected to the House after leaving office.

Carter’s favorite president was Harry Truman, who was also unpopular in office but grew in stature over time. He placed Truman’s famous sign, “The Buck Stops Here,” on his desk in the Oval Office and took the idea of accountability so seriously that, when running for reelection, he gave himself poor to middling grades on national television. Like Truman, Carter believed his Baptist faith required a strict separation of church and state. He rarely spoke of his devout beliefs—even to aides—and made a point of not allowing prayer breakfasts or other religious events at the White House. But he occasionally talked to world leaders in private about religious freedom (a conversation with Deng Xiaoping helped spread Christianity to millions in China), and he infused his politics with what one of his speechwriters called a “moral ideology.” He thought US control of the Panama Canal a moral injustice to Panamanians; wasteful water projects a moral offense against fiscal responsibility; environmental degradation a moral betrayal of the planet; and war—anywhere—a moral assault on the deepest human values.

Carter’s high moral purpose sometimes made him look sanctimonious, especially to skeptics who failed to notice there wasn’t enough hypocrisy to bolster the indictment. The critics didn’t know yet that there was little to hide. But if his integrity and values were authentic, the gap between the public and private man could be wide.

Carter’s 1980 defeat had many causes—the divisive Kennedy challenge in the Democratic primaries; the prolonged captivity of the hostages in Iran; the wretched state of the American economy—but Carter’s nature played a role. He seemed as if he were carrying the weight of the world on his shoulders—never a good look. And while he had millions of admirers who liked his Everyman qualities, his modesty stripped him of the aura enjoyed and exploited by other leaders.

Unlike most who reach the summit, Carter did not always possess what soldiers call “command presence.” He could bark out orders but lacked an intangible quality that makes people want to charge up the hill behind. This made him an unusual historical specimen: a visionary who was not a natural leader.

Rosalynn, his full partner and closest adviser, thought he was a leader of a different kind. “A leader can lead people where they want to go,” she said in 2015. “A great leader leads people where they ought to go.” Her husband was not a great leader—no historians consider him in the first rank of American presidents—but Carter was a surprisingly significant one, a man who lived the advice of the columnist Walter Lippmann to “plant trees we will never get to sit under.”

 

[mudwhistle]

Jonathan Alter worked on Ted Kennedy's primary campaign against Carter in 1979. in 2020, Alter wrote a long biography about Carter, praising him profusely throughout

that's how decent a man Carter was, that's the effect he had on people

The problem is I know what a prick he was in the WH from firsthand knowledge....not from a puff-piece written to prop up his image after he royally screwed the pooch.

Most of the people who had issues with Trump were people who had it in for him before they met. Jealous, two-faced opponents who refused to work with him. Trump was usually a nice guy to just about everyone. Even stooping to pick up a Marines cover when the wind blew it off.

With Jimmy it was a case where he felt he knew better than everyone else around him and he expected everyone to kiss his backside. He had a mean streak that the MSM did their best to cover up. He was like Hillary in public....cold and terse with his staff....then when the cameras came on, all smiles like throwing a switch.

 

[otto105]

Is Carter inviting the Trumpster to his funeral?

Or is he going to continue with the same classlessness of other decedents nowadays?

It would be great to have Trump do the official eulogy.

Why? So, they could fuck it up by complaining about false assertions of the 2920 election like pussies.

 

[mudwhistle]

Yep....and Sadat was assassinated because of this.
Trump did the same thing during his presidency and nobody gave him any credit for it.
Especially since the parties involved were working together to fight Iran's terrorist regime. A huge legacy left behind by Jimmy Carter.