Jimmy Garoppolo is the highest paid player in the NFL

I did not watch the superbowl of course but i will have to since i learned that Brady lost a fumble that cost them the game.

Tuck rule didn’t work today Tom!!!!

like this person said so well above,the tuck rule didnt save his ass THIS time.:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::iyfyus.jpg:
 
The 49ers signed him to a 5 year, $137.5 million contract. At $27.5 million per year, he's just over Matthew Stafford's $27 mil per year.

When the 49ers first made the trade, I was thinking they should franchise tag him and see how he did for a season. After seeing him play, after he went undefeated on a previously 1-win team, after the 49ers went from 17 PPG to 28.8 PPG, after the 49ers only had 1 three-and-out drive that led to a punt, after everything having Jimmy G start did to elevate the organization, I am on board with this deal.

There's $74 million in guaranteed money. I don't know about the difficulty in the team getting out of the contract if it becomes necessary, or if the pay is front-loaded, but I'm optimistic about things working out.

Cousins will likely end up getting more, Brees might, and if the contract talks work out in Green Bay, Rodgers will. Despite the small sample size, though, Garoppolo has so far looked like a franchise QB. Considering how poorly the 49ers did before his arrival, and how much cap space they have, getting this guy signed to a long-term deal was the right move, IMO.

True. They must have extreme confidance in him that he can be effective in a entire 16 game season to offer so much money for him like that.

Yeah before his arrival,the niners did not know the meaning of the word winning the last three or four years.

He is a pretty impressive quarterback,I got to watch him against the Rams in the final game of the season and saw him in a pre seasaon game with the pats once and he was impressive both time.

they obviously have confidance in him that he will continue to win for them as he did the last five games of the year when he came off the bench which is pretty cool actually if he indeed is going to turn the fortunes around for team as wilson did for the hawks and brady did for the pats. which is fine with me cause i would LOVE more than anything to see that california rivalry of the niners and rams back.:yes_text12::dance:

well it IS back with the Rams back in LA. As the announcers said last year,it,doesnt matter if it is a year where both teams are horrible as they were last year,the fans get into that particular game because of their history same as the bears and packers do.:) they sold out BOTH times last year and this year as well in both SF and LA.

But a rivalray is MAINLY called that because of two teams fighting it out neck and neck to win the division title which the niners and rams did of course so many times in the 70's and 80's.:) that looks to be right around the corner again.:banana:



oh and when Jimmy G turns the fortunes of this franchise around next year and they have winning season after winning season,I can pretty much count on all of you Belicheat apologists to say that Kyle Shannahan is the greatest coach in the NFL next to Belicheat since like Belicheat,a QB is going to come on and save his ass from the toilet and keep him from being a loser his whole life as he was destined to be before Brady saved his ass from being a complete failure in the NFL as he was on the road to being before he came along and saved it.
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people always forget that Belicheat his first year there when he had Bledsoe as his starter,they had a losing season. Well Shanahan had a losing season his first year in SF and now looks like he is going to have a bunch of winning seasons year after year as well which means of course i will hear from you that he is ALSO a great coach since a good QB came along and saved his ass from being a failure as belicheat was his whole life before Brady save it,:iyfyus.jpg:


its always amusing that everytime i bring up those pesky facts this is what you do-:scared1:

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Do you think Bill Walsh was a bad coach because he had Montana?

Was Don Schula a bad coach for having Marino?

Was Mike Holmgren a bad coach for having Favre?

Was Tony Dungy a bad coach for winning his Super Bowl when he had Manning?

Or is only Belichick hurt by having a great QB?

apples and oranges.:haha:

the difference in all THOSE coachs is they were all successful in other places they went. where they coached another team Walsh and Shula being the exception.:haha: Walsh it was always well known wayyyyy before he had Montana,that he was an offensive genius so he clearly had a hand in the development of Montana.LOL Shula also coached and was great under Bob Griese before Marino.Shula was also known as an offesive genius as well.LOL he proved that by when he had Griese,their offensive game plan was mostly a running attack and passing was limited where when got Marino and saw that he had a lighting quick release unlike any other NFL quarterback to ever play the game plus had a strong accurate arm,since he was a good coach,he was willing to change his style and adapt it to the passing game with Marino having such a strong accurate arm.

People like Old Yeller get what i am saying but you like all Belicheat apologists,only see what you WANT to see as we both know.:itsok:

Like I said,I am quite looking forward next year to hearing you Belicheat apologists say Kyle Shannahan is one of the best coachs in the NFL when Jimmy turns the fortunes of your team around.:iyfyus.jpg:

Are you aware that in 1 of Belichick's years coaching the Browns, they went 11-5, went to the playoffs, and won their first playoff game? Are you also aware that since that time, the Browns have been to exactly 1 playoff game and have won exactly 0?

Of course Belichick has done better having one of the greatest QBs ever. What coach wouldn't? That doesn't mean the success the Patriots have had under Belichick isn't incredibly impressive. In his 18 years as coach, the Pats have won their division 15 times, been to the AFC Championship Game 12 times, and the Super Bowl 8 times. That is an unprecedented level of success, and it's been done in the salary cap era, while the league has looked for parity.

Oh, and have you forgotten that the Patriots went 11-5 with Matt Cassel as the starter? Cassel has had a winning record as a starter (where he started more than 1 game) twice. His 10-5 record as the Pats starter is one of those 2 winning seasons.

When Brady was suspended for 4 games, the Pats went 3-1, using both Garoppolo and Jacoby Brissett.

But it's all Brady, right?

Belichick is better with Brady. I don't doubt that at all. Brady is probably better with Belichick, as well. That doesn't mean either of them is not great.
 
I did not watch the superbowl of course but i will have to since i learned that Brady lost a fumble that cost them the game.

Tuck rule didn’t work today Tom!!!!

like this person said so well above,the tuck rule didnt save his ass THIS time.:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::iyfyus.jpg:

On the other hand, he did set a new record for most passing yards in a Super Bowl.

It was a ridiculous offensive game. The Philly D came up big when it mattered most, though.
 
I did not watch the superbowl of course but i will have to since i learned that Brady lost a fumble that cost them the game.

Tuck rule didn’t work today Tom!!!!

like this person said so well above,the tuck rule didnt save his ass THIS time.:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::iyfyus.jpg:

Absolute bullshit! You know damn well you watched it, you fucking liar!
 
The 49ers signed him to a 5 year, $137.5 million contract. At $27.5 million per year, he's just over Matthew Stafford's $27 mil per year.

When the 49ers first made the trade, I was thinking they should franchise tag him and see how he did for a season. After seeing him play, after he went undefeated on a previously 1-win team, after the 49ers went from 17 PPG to 28.8 PPG, after the 49ers only had 1 three-and-out drive that led to a punt, after everything having Jimmy G start did to elevate the organization, I am on board with this deal.

There's $74 million in guaranteed money. I don't know about the difficulty in the team getting out of the contract if it becomes necessary, or if the pay is front-loaded, but I'm optimistic about things working out.

Cousins will likely end up getting more, Brees might, and if the contract talks work out in Green Bay, Rodgers will. Despite the small sample size, though, Garoppolo has so far looked like a franchise QB. Considering how poorly the 49ers did before his arrival, and how much cap space they have, getting this guy signed to a long-term deal was the right move, IMO.

True. They must have extreme confidance in him that he can be effective in a entire 16 game season to offer so much money for him like that.

Yeah before his arrival,the niners did not know the meaning of the word winning the last three or four years.

He is a pretty impressive quarterback,I got to watch him against the Rams in the final game of the season and saw him in a pre seasaon game with the pats once and he was impressive both time.

they obviously have confidance in him that he will continue to win for them as he did the last five games of the year when he came off the bench which is pretty cool actually if he indeed is going to turn the fortunes around for team as wilson did for the hawks and brady did for the pats. which is fine with me cause i would LOVE more than anything to see that california rivalry of the niners and rams back.:yes_text12::dance:

well it IS back with the Rams back in LA. As the announcers said last year,it,doesnt matter if it is a year where both teams are horrible as they were last year,the fans get into that particular game because of their history same as the bears and packers do.:) they sold out BOTH times last year and this year as well in both SF and LA.

But a rivalray is MAINLY called that because of two teams fighting it out neck and neck to win the division title which the niners and rams did of course so many times in the 70's and 80's.:) that looks to be right around the corner again.:banana:



oh and when Jimmy G turns the fortunes of this franchise around next year and they have winning season after winning season,I can pretty much count on all of you Belicheat apologists to say that Kyle Shannahan is the greatest coach in the NFL next to Belicheat since like Belicheat,a QB is going to come on and save his ass from the toilet and keep him from being a loser his whole life as he was destined to be before Brady saved his ass from being a complete failure in the NFL as he was on the road to being before he came along and saved it.
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people always forget that Belicheat his first year there when he had Bledsoe as his starter,they had a losing season. Well Shanahan had a losing season his first year in SF and now looks like he is going to have a bunch of winning seasons year after year as well which means of course i will hear from you that he is ALSO a great coach since a good QB came along and saved his ass from being a failure as belicheat was his whole life before Brady save it,:iyfyus.jpg:


its always amusing that everytime i bring up those pesky facts this is what you do-:scared1:

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Do you think Bill Walsh was a bad coach because he had Montana?

Was Don Schula a bad coach for having Marino?

Was Mike Holmgren a bad coach for having Favre?

Was Tony Dungy a bad coach for winning his Super Bowl when he had Manning?

Or is only Belichick hurt by having a great QB?

apples and oranges.:haha:

the difference in all THOSE coachs is they were all successful in other places they went. where they coached another team Walsh and Shula being the exception.:haha: Walsh it was always well known wayyyyy before he had Montana,that he was an offensive genius so he clearly had a hand in the development of Montana.LOL Shula also coached and was great under Bob Griese before Marino.Shula was also known as an offesive genius as well.LOL he proved that by when he had Griese,their offensive game plan was mostly a running attack and passing was limited where when got Marino and saw that he had a lighting quick release unlike any other NFL quarterback to ever play the game plus had a strong accurate arm,since he was a good coach,he was willing to change his style and adapt it to the passing game with Marino having such a strong accurate arm.

People like Old Yeller get what i am saying but you like all Belicheat apologists,only see what you WANT to see as we both know.:itsok:

Like I said,I am quite looking forward next year to hearing you Belicheat apologists say Kyle Shannahan is one of the best coachs in the NFL when Jimmy turns the fortunes of your team around.:iyfyus.jpg:

Are you aware that in 1 of Belichick's years coaching the Browns, they went 11-5, went to the playoffs, and won their first playoff game? Are you also aware that since that time, the Browns have been to exactly 1 playoff game and have won exactly 0?

Of course Belichick has done better having one of the greatest QBs ever. What coach wouldn't? That doesn't mean the success the Patriots have had under Belichick isn't incredibly impressive. In his 18 years as coach, the Pats have won their division 15 times, been to the AFC Championship Game 12 times, and the Super Bowl 8 times. That is an unprecedented level of success, and it's been done in the salary cap era, while the league has looked for parity.

Oh, and have you forgotten that the Patriots went 11-5 with Matt Cassel as the starter? Cassel has had a winning record as a starter (where he started more than 1 game) twice. His 10-5 record as the Pats starter is one of those 2 winning seasons.

When Brady was suspended for 4 games, the Pats went 3-1, using both Garoppolo and Jacoby Brissett.

But it's all Brady, right?

Belichick is better with Brady. I don't doubt that at all. Brady is probably better with Belichick, as well. That doesn't mean either of them is not great.

We need a new great coach and QB, Bellichick and Brady get on my nerves. I think it is time for Gruden and Carr to step up and become the foundation for the next great dynasty.
 
I would like to know what the opening offer was and such......In a shrinking market this especially makes no sense. Poor super Joe Flaco must be saying hey where is mine.....
 
The 49ers signed him to a 5 year, $137.5 million contract. At $27.5 million per year, he's just over Matthew Stafford's $27 mil per year.

When the 49ers first made the trade, I was thinking they should franchise tag him and see how he did for a season. After seeing him play, after he went undefeated on a previously 1-win team, after the 49ers went from 17 PPG to 28.8 PPG, after the 49ers only had 1 three-and-out drive that led to a punt, after everything having Jimmy G start did to elevate the organization, I am on board with this deal.

There's $74 million in guaranteed money. I don't know about the difficulty in the team getting out of the contract if it becomes necessary, or if the pay is front-loaded, but I'm optimistic about things working out.

Cousins will likely end up getting more, Brees might, and if the contract talks work out in Green Bay, Rodgers will. Despite the small sample size, though, Garoppolo has so far looked like a franchise QB. Considering how poorly the 49ers did before his arrival, and how much cap space they have, getting this guy signed to a long-term deal was the right move, IMO.

True. They must have extreme confidance in him that he can be effective in a entire 16 game season to offer so much money for him like that.

Yeah before his arrival,the niners did not know the meaning of the word winning the last three or four years.

He is a pretty impressive quarterback,I got to watch him against the Rams in the final game of the season and saw him in a pre seasaon game with the pats once and he was impressive both time.

they obviously have confidance in him that he will continue to win for them as he did the last five games of the year when he came off the bench which is pretty cool actually if he indeed is going to turn the fortunes around for team as wilson did for the hawks and brady did for the pats. which is fine with me cause i would LOVE more than anything to see that california rivalry of the niners and rams back.:yes_text12::dance:

well it IS back with the Rams back in LA. As the announcers said last year,it,doesnt matter if it is a year where both teams are horrible as they were last year,the fans get into that particular game because of their history same as the bears and packers do.:) they sold out BOTH times last year and this year as well in both SF and LA.

But a rivalray is MAINLY called that because of two teams fighting it out neck and neck to win the division title which the niners and rams did of course so many times in the 70's and 80's.:) that looks to be right around the corner again.:banana:



oh and when Jimmy G turns the fortunes of this franchise around next year and they have winning season after winning season,I can pretty much count on all of you Belicheat apologists to say that Kyle Shannahan is the greatest coach in the NFL next to Belicheat since like Belicheat,a QB is going to come on and save his ass from the toilet and keep him from being a loser his whole life as he was destined to be before Brady saved his ass from being a complete failure in the NFL as he was on the road to being before he came along and saved it.
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people always forget that Belicheat his first year there when he had Bledsoe as his starter,they had a losing season. Well Shanahan had a losing season his first year in SF and now looks like he is going to have a bunch of winning seasons year after year as well which means of course i will hear from you that he is ALSO a great coach since a good QB came along and saved his ass from being a failure as belicheat was his whole life before Brady save it,:iyfyus.jpg:


its always amusing that everytime i bring up those pesky facts this is what you do-:scared1:

:iyfyus.jpg:

Do you think Bill Walsh was a bad coach because he had Montana?

Was Don Schula a bad coach for having Marino?

Was Mike Holmgren a bad coach for having Favre?

Was Tony Dungy a bad coach for winning his Super Bowl when he had Manning?

Or is only Belichick hurt by having a great QB?

apples and oranges.:haha:

the difference in all THOSE coachs is they were all successful in other places they went. where they coached another team Walsh and Shula being the exception.:haha: Walsh it was always well known wayyyyy before he had Montana,that he was an offensive genius so he clearly had a hand in the development of Montana.LOL Shula also coached and was great under Bob Griese before Marino.Shula was also known as an offesive genius as well.LOL he proved that by when he had Griese,their offensive game plan was mostly a running attack and passing was limited where when got Marino and saw that he had a lighting quick release unlike any other NFL quarterback to ever play the game plus had a strong accurate arm,since he was a good coach,he was willing to change his style and adapt it to the passing game with Marino having such a strong accurate arm.

People like Old Yeller get what i am saying but you like all Belicheat apologists,only see what you WANT to see as we both know.:itsok:

Like I said,I am quite looking forward next year to hearing you Belicheat apologists say Kyle Shannahan is one of the best coachs in the NFL when Jimmy turns the fortunes of your team around.:iyfyus.jpg:

Are you aware that in 1 of Belichick's years coaching the Browns, they went 11-5, went to the playoffs, and won their first playoff game? Are you also aware that since that time, the Browns have been to exactly 1 playoff game and have won exactly 0?

Of course Belichick has done better having one of the greatest QBs ever. What coach wouldn't? That doesn't mean the success the Patriots have had under Belichick isn't incredibly impressive. In his 18 years as coach, the Pats have won their division 15 times, been to the AFC Championship Game 12 times, and the Super Bowl 8 times. That is an unprecedented level of success, and it's been done in the salary cap era, while the league has looked for parity.

Oh, and have you forgotten that the Patriots went 11-5 with Matt Cassel as the starter? Cassel has had a winning record as a starter (where he started more than 1 game) twice. His 10-5 record as the Pats starter is one of those 2 winning seasons.

When Brady was suspended for 4 games, the Pats went 3-1, using both Garoppolo and Jacoby Brissett.

But it's all Brady, right?

Belichick is better with Brady. I don't doubt that at all. Brady is probably better with Belichick, as well. That doesn't mean either of them is not great.

We need a new great coach and QB, Bellichick and Brady get on my nerves. I think it is time for Gruden and Carr to step up and become the foundation for the next great dynasty.

I'm not a fan of Gruden as a coach; I think he's been overrated based on his time in Tampa. He took an already very good team and, admittedly, got them over the hump for a Super Bowl victory. I certainly give him credit for that....but the team was bad the next year, then good, then bad.....Gruden's TB teams were incredibly inconsistent. Moreover, after the SB win, I remember stories about Bucs players acting very poorly, which seemed to indicate that Gruden did not have control over the team.

That said, I have nothing against the Raiders, and if Gruden turns out to be a better coach than I have thought him to be, more power to him and the team.
 
True. They must have extreme confidance in him that he can be effective in a entire 16 game season to offer so much money for him like that.

Yeah before his arrival,the niners did not know the meaning of the word winning the last three or four years.

He is a pretty impressive quarterback,I got to watch him against the Rams in the final game of the season and saw him in a pre seasaon game with the pats once and he was impressive both time.

they obviously have confidance in him that he will continue to win for them as he did the last five games of the year when he came off the bench which is pretty cool actually if he indeed is going to turn the fortunes around for team as wilson did for the hawks and brady did for the pats. which is fine with me cause i would LOVE more than anything to see that california rivalry of the niners and rams back.:yes_text12::dance:

well it IS back with the Rams back in LA. As the announcers said last year,it,doesnt matter if it is a year where both teams are horrible as they were last year,the fans get into that particular game because of their history same as the bears and packers do.:) they sold out BOTH times last year and this year as well in both SF and LA.

But a rivalray is MAINLY called that because of two teams fighting it out neck and neck to win the division title which the niners and rams did of course so many times in the 70's and 80's.:) that looks to be right around the corner again.:banana:



oh and when Jimmy G turns the fortunes of this franchise around next year and they have winning season after winning season,I can pretty much count on all of you Belicheat apologists to say that Kyle Shannahan is the greatest coach in the NFL next to Belicheat since like Belicheat,a QB is going to come on and save his ass from the toilet and keep him from being a loser his whole life as he was destined to be before Brady saved his ass from being a complete failure in the NFL as he was on the road to being before he came along and saved it.
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people always forget that Belicheat his first year there when he had Bledsoe as his starter,they had a losing season. Well Shanahan had a losing season his first year in SF and now looks like he is going to have a bunch of winning seasons year after year as well which means of course i will hear from you that he is ALSO a great coach since a good QB came along and saved his ass from being a failure as belicheat was his whole life before Brady save it,:iyfyus.jpg:


its always amusing that everytime i bring up those pesky facts this is what you do-:scared1:

:iyfyus.jpg:

Do you think Bill Walsh was a bad coach because he had Montana?

Was Don Schula a bad coach for having Marino?

Was Mike Holmgren a bad coach for having Favre?

Was Tony Dungy a bad coach for winning his Super Bowl when he had Manning?

Or is only Belichick hurt by having a great QB?

apples and oranges.:haha:

the difference in all THOSE coachs is they were all successful in other places they went. where they coached another team Walsh and Shula being the exception.:haha: Walsh it was always well known wayyyyy before he had Montana,that he was an offensive genius so he clearly had a hand in the development of Montana.LOL Shula also coached and was great under Bob Griese before Marino.Shula was also known as an offesive genius as well.LOL he proved that by when he had Griese,their offensive game plan was mostly a running attack and passing was limited where when got Marino and saw that he had a lighting quick release unlike any other NFL quarterback to ever play the game plus had a strong accurate arm,since he was a good coach,he was willing to change his style and adapt it to the passing game with Marino having such a strong accurate arm.

People like Old Yeller get what i am saying but you like all Belicheat apologists,only see what you WANT to see as we both know.:itsok:

Like I said,I am quite looking forward next year to hearing you Belicheat apologists say Kyle Shannahan is one of the best coachs in the NFL when Jimmy turns the fortunes of your team around.:iyfyus.jpg:

Are you aware that in 1 of Belichick's years coaching the Browns, they went 11-5, went to the playoffs, and won their first playoff game? Are you also aware that since that time, the Browns have been to exactly 1 playoff game and have won exactly 0?

Of course Belichick has done better having one of the greatest QBs ever. What coach wouldn't? That doesn't mean the success the Patriots have had under Belichick isn't incredibly impressive. In his 18 years as coach, the Pats have won their division 15 times, been to the AFC Championship Game 12 times, and the Super Bowl 8 times. That is an unprecedented level of success, and it's been done in the salary cap era, while the league has looked for parity.

Oh, and have you forgotten that the Patriots went 11-5 with Matt Cassel as the starter? Cassel has had a winning record as a starter (where he started more than 1 game) twice. His 10-5 record as the Pats starter is one of those 2 winning seasons.

When Brady was suspended for 4 games, the Pats went 3-1, using both Garoppolo and Jacoby Brissett.

But it's all Brady, right?

Belichick is better with Brady. I don't doubt that at all. Brady is probably better with Belichick, as well. That doesn't mean either of them is not great.

We need a new great coach and QB, Bellichick and Brady get on my nerves. I think it is time for Gruden and Carr to step up and become the foundation for the next great dynasty.

I'm not a fan of Gruden as a coach; I think he's been overrated based on his time in Tampa. He took an already very good team and, admittedly, got them over the hump for a Super Bowl victory. I certainly give him credit for that....but the team was bad the next year, then good, then bad.....Gruden's TB teams were incredibly inconsistent. Moreover, after the SB win, I remember stories about Bucs players acting very poorly, which seemed to indicate that Gruden did not have control over the team.

That said, I have nothing against the Raiders, and if Gruden turns out to be a better coach than I have thought him to be, more power to him and the team.

I don’t think dynasty is in the future, but hey, I’m a Raiders fan, we have to cling to hope.
 
I did not watch the superbowl of course but i will have to since i learned that Brady lost a fumble that cost them the game.

Tuck rule didn’t work today Tom!!!!

like this person said so well above,the tuck rule didnt save his ass THIS time.:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::iyfyus.jpg:

On the other hand, he did set a new record for most passing yards in a Super Bowl.

It was a ridiculous offensive game. The Philly D came up big when it mattered most, though.

of course he did,the games are rigged.
 
The 49ers signed him to a 5 year, $137.5 million contract. At $27.5 million per year, he's just over Matthew Stafford's $27 mil per year.

When the 49ers first made the trade, I was thinking they should franchise tag him and see how he did for a season. After seeing him play, after he went undefeated on a previously 1-win team, after the 49ers went from 17 PPG to 28.8 PPG, after the 49ers only had 1 three-and-out drive that led to a punt, after everything having Jimmy G start did to elevate the organization, I am on board with this deal.

There's $74 million in guaranteed money. I don't know about the difficulty in the team getting out of the contract if it becomes necessary, or if the pay is front-loaded, but I'm optimistic about things working out.

Cousins will likely end up getting more, Brees might, and if the contract talks work out in Green Bay, Rodgers will. Despite the small sample size, though, Garoppolo has so far looked like a franchise QB. Considering how poorly the 49ers did before his arrival, and how much cap space they have, getting this guy signed to a long-term deal was the right move, IMO.

True. They must have extreme confidance in him that he can be effective in a entire 16 game season to offer so much money for him like that.

Yeah before his arrival,the niners did not know the meaning of the word winning the last three or four years.

He is a pretty impressive quarterback,I got to watch him against the Rams in the final game of the season and saw him in a pre seasaon game with the pats once and he was impressive both time.

they obviously have confidance in him that he will continue to win for them as he did the last five games of the year when he came off the bench which is pretty cool actually if he indeed is going to turn the fortunes around for team as wilson did for the hawks and brady did for the pats. which is fine with me cause i would LOVE more than anything to see that california rivalry of the niners and rams back.:yes_text12::dance:

well it IS back with the Rams back in LA. As the announcers said last year,it,doesnt matter if it is a year where both teams are horrible as they were last year,the fans get into that particular game because of their history same as the bears and packers do.:) they sold out BOTH times last year and this year as well in both SF and LA.

But a rivalray is MAINLY called that because of two teams fighting it out neck and neck to win the division title which the niners and rams did of course so many times in the 70's and 80's.:) that looks to be right around the corner again.:banana:



oh and when Jimmy G turns the fortunes of this franchise around next year and they have winning season after winning season,I can pretty much count on all of you Belicheat apologists to say that Kyle Shannahan is the greatest coach in the NFL next to Belicheat since like Belicheat,a QB is going to come on and save his ass from the toilet and keep him from being a loser his whole life as he was destined to be before Brady saved his ass from being a complete failure in the NFL as he was on the road to being before he came along and saved it.
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people always forget that Belicheat his first year there when he had Bledsoe as his starter,they had a losing season. Well Shanahan had a losing season his first year in SF and now looks like he is going to have a bunch of winning seasons year after year as well which means of course i will hear from you that he is ALSO a great coach since a good QB came along and saved his ass from being a failure as belicheat was his whole life before Brady save it,:iyfyus.jpg:


its always amusing that everytime i bring up those pesky facts this is what you do-:scared1:

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Do you think Bill Walsh was a bad coach because he had Montana?

Was Don Schula a bad coach for having Marino?

Was Mike Holmgren a bad coach for having Favre?

Was Tony Dungy a bad coach for winning his Super Bowl when he had Manning?

Or is only Belichick hurt by having a great QB?

apples and oranges.:haha:

the difference in all THOSE coachs is they were all successful in other places they went. where they coached another team Walsh and Shula being the exception.:haha: Walsh it was always well known wayyyyy before he had Montana,that he was an offensive genius so he clearly had a hand in the development of Montana.LOL Shula also coached and was great under Bob Griese before Marino.Shula was also known as an offesive genius as well.LOL he proved that by when he had Griese,their offensive game plan was mostly a running attack and passing was limited where when got Marino and saw that he had a lighting quick release unlike any other NFL quarterback to ever play the game plus had a strong accurate arm,since he was a good coach,he was willing to change his style and adapt it to the passing game with Marino having such a strong accurate arm.

People like Old Yeller get what i am saying but you like all Belicheat apologists,only see what you WANT to see as we both know.:itsok:

Like I said,I am quite looking forward next year to hearing you Belicheat apologists say Kyle Shannahan is one of the best coachs in the NFL when Jimmy turns the fortunes of your team around.:iyfyus.jpg:

Are you aware that in 1 of Belichick's years coaching the Browns, they went 11-5, went to the playoffs, and won their first playoff game? Are you also aware that since that time, the Browns have been to exactly 1 playoff game and have won exactly 0?

Of course Belichick has done better having one of the greatest QBs ever. What coach wouldn't? That doesn't mean the success the Patriots have had under Belichick isn't incredibly impressive. In his 18 years as coach, the Pats have won their division 15 times, been to the AFC Championship Game 12 times, and the Super Bowl 8 times. That is an unprecedented level of success, and it's been done in the salary cap era, while the league has looked for parity.

Oh, and have you forgotten that the Patriots went 11-5 with Matt Cassel as the starter? Cassel has had a winning record as a starter (where he started more than 1 game) twice. His 10-5 record as the Pats starter is one of those 2 winning seasons.

When Brady was suspended for 4 games, the Pats went 3-1, using both Garoppolo and Jacoby Brissett.

But it's all Brady, right?

Belichick is better with Brady. I don't doubt that at all. Brady is probably better with Belichick, as well. That doesn't mean either of them is not great.

Like clockwork,eveytime you are confronted with pesky facts you evade them not talking about the facts WHY Belicheat is not that good by posting irrelevent stuff that have noting to do with the facts,everytime you do both of these below when getting taken to school he isnt that good a coach.
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for the hundreth time, the games are scripted.that is WHY they went 3-1 without Brady.

again ONE WINNING SEASON and a playoff win big wow.:dig:

one fluke winning season big wow.:haha:

and yes,I am very aware of how the cheats went 11-5 when wuss brady who could not take a mere hit the knee by a mere helmet went out for the year and cassel took over and went 11-5. But that just shows you have alzhemiers diseace because EVERYITME you mention that point,you always somehow forget this fact as well that cassel ALSO went 10-6 with the chiefs under Todd Haley so according to YOUR logic, I guess Todd Haley is a good

coach as well and that was not a fluke year for the chiefs and todd haley.:haha:

oh and its also comical you think brady is the best QB ever since i proved he is a huge wuss who cant even take a mere helmet to the knee hit missing an entire season as he did like the wuss he is and playing in an age where the defenders cant even touch the recievers anymore downfield and the QB plays with a skirt on since brady obviously whined like a baby to the NFL to have the rules changed after that.:rofl:

Brady is the best ever thats why he would not have lasted on season in the NFL back in the day when Bradshaw and Montana played where defenses could throw the quarterback around like a ragdoll and were allowed to blindside him long after he released the ball. I remember seeing a lot of the steelers games back then where bradshaw took some vicous hits like no other quarterback in the league has EVER had to endure as him and his fellow tough guy QB's back in that day and age had to endure CONSTANTLY. Brady would not even be able to take ONE of those vicous hits quarterbacks like Len Dawson,Johhny Unitas,Fran Tarkenton,Y A Title,Joe Namath.Bob Grise,Roman Gabriel,Joe Montana,John Brodie,ect,ect,ect had to endure CONSTANTLY ALL THE TIME. yet you think he is the greatest of all time?

comedy gold.He isnt even one of the top 20 of all time the fact he would easily have failed in that era being the wuss he was and been hospitalized after one game or never have had the passing yards or completions he has since back then defenses were allowed to play defense.:iyfyus.jpg:
 
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You will have to PM old yeller who clearly gets what I am saying since he has logic and common sense IF you want to have someone listen to your latest ramble since you are so much in denial mode BeliCHEAT is not that good a coach and tom brady is not even one of the top 20 best ever since the NFL rigs the games for them in their favor all the time especially playoffs and superbowls..:iyfyus.jpg:

as i said earlier on that eagels/pats superbowl thread these are the TWO reasons the cheats lost the superbowl THIS time.


as i said before earlier,I think a big part of the reason the cheats did not win this time is because they did not have a coach who was mentored by pete the cheat carrol.:biggrin:

pete the cheat is just as much a criminal as belicheat is for taking that payoff to throw that superbowl to them and give it them.If you dont think pete the cheat was paid off to throw that game,you are in serious denial mode as many posters here are.LOL

well the coach of the falcons last year was none other than Dan Quinn.wellguess who Dan Quinn is? HE used to be none other than the former defensive coordinater for the seahawks under carrol. It was soooooo obvious the coach of the falcons threw that game as well for the cheats,when you watch that game,you notice in the first half the falcons attacked the patriots and were aggressive.the second half they got super conservative and STOPPED attacking them.what the fuck is up with that?:rolleyes:

you DONT stop doing what you were having success with,you put the petal to the metal and dont let up.:rolleyes: that is UNLESS you are not trying to win which was the case of the falcons.It was so obvious they purposely let them back into the game because their coach got into super conservative mode and incredibly,stopped attacking and being aggressive.


I did not watch the game since as everyone here knows me,knows that if the Rams are not in it,I wont watch it. I did not watch it but from reading your post it sounds like this coach attacked them the ENTIRE game and never got conservative as dan quinn did last year.:thup:

I played junior high and high school football,there was NEVER a game in my life i can remember where when we had a huge lead at halftime and were blowing them out,that our coach STOPPED doing what had made us successful in the first half,we ALWAYS kept on attacking and doing what we had been doing and as a result,blew out that team in a blowout.

THIS coach was not mentored under pete carrol so unlike carrol and quinn,he wasnt on the take and looked past the big money for a ring obviously.:up::clap2:
 
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and here of course is the OTHER reason the cheats lost. A Couple of other posters agreed with me as well about this post below i made on the eagles/pats thread as well.

I am of course 100% in total agreement with this poster who posted this below at a youtube video.It makes PERFECT sense WHY they lost.the NFL rigged it THIS time for them to LOSE because of this excellent post below.Heknows his stuff and can think outside the box.:up:


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I think they rigged it to take the heat off the Patroits cause everyone knows the games are rigged in their favor so if another team beats them in the Superbowl you would think it's not.
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makes perfect sense to me.:thup:

I am guessing next year since the cheats took one for the NFL,they will be rewarded for that with another superbowl trophy and Brady will then ride off into the sunset.Will be deju vu of when they rigged it for the donkeys to win so peyton manning could do the same thing.
 
and here of course is the OTHER reason the cheats lost. A Couple of other posters agreed with me as well about this post below i made on the eagles/pats thread as well.

I am of course 100% in total agreement with this poster who posted this below at a youtube video.It makes PERFECT sense WHY they lost.the NFL rigged it THIS time for them to LOSE because of this excellent post below.Heknows his stuff and can think outside the box.:up:


Bugsy MX1 day ago
I think they rigged it to take the heat off the Patroits cause everyone knows the games are rigged in their favor so if another team beats them in the Superbowl you would think it's not.
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makes perfect sense to me.:thup:

I am guessing next year since the cheats took one for the NFL,they will be rewarded for that with another superbowl trophy and Brady will then ride off into the sunset.Will be deju vu of when they rigged it for the donkeys to win so peyton manning could do the same thing.

Lol! Dumb shit, you said the games were scripted! You are one stupid idiot.
 
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pogo posted this over at that thread as well.Looks like the cheats since they could not illegally spy on a team as they did in their games against the rams,eagles,panthers and probably the giants as well but it still wasnt enough for them to win, when they could not spy on the eagles without them knowing,they could not win.:haha: they did not have to spy on their last two opponents they beat the seahawks and falcons because they KNEW the coachs of THOSE two teams would throw the game for them.:D

as i just got done saying,the falcons coach dan quinn used to be the defensive coordinater for the seahawks under pete the cheat carrol so since he got mentored under carrol,Quinn became corrupt being under his influence and learned from carrol,if you throw football games,you get ten times MORE rich than if you play if Fair and win.:D

This coach of the eagles was NOT under the influence of carrol so he is not corrupt and he played to win and was more interested in a superbowl RING,than the money,good for him looking past the money and not caving into greed.:up:

here again is what pogo posted which is another reason the cheats could not win this time.:up:



I can probably find that video as well where even one of Bradys OWN PLAYERS,who played on their first three superbowls,even HE said brady is cheater,but pesky facts like that always hurt your feelings and you cover your ears and eyes to that so why bother?:iyfyus.jpg::itsok::itsok::itsok::itsok:
 
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pogo posted this over at that thread as well.Looks like the cheats since they could not illegally spy on a team as they did in their games against the rams,eagles,panthers and probably the giants as well but it still wasnt enough for them to win, when they could not spy on the eagles without them knowing,they could not win.:haha: they did not have to spy on their last two opponents they beat the seahawks and falcons because they KNEW the coachs of THOSE two teams would throw the game for them.:D

as i just got done saying,the falcons coach dan quinn used to be the defensive coordinater for the seahawks under pete the cheat carrol so since he got mentored under carrol,Quinn became corrupt being under his influence and learned from carrol,if you throw football games,you get ten times MORE rich than if you play if Fair and win.:D

This coach of the eagles was NOT under the influence of carrol so he is not corrupt and he played to win and was more interested in a superbowl RING,than the money,good for him looking past the money and not caving into greed.:up:

here again is what pogo posted which is another reason the cheats could not win this time.:up:



I can probably find that video as well where even one of Bradys OWN PLAYERS,who played on their first three superbowls,even HE said brady is cheater,but pesky facts like that always hurt your feelings and you cover your ears and eyes to that so why bother?:iyfyus.jpg::itsok::itsok::itsok::itsok:


Again, you claim the games are scripted, remember?
 
I look at this as a failure of your first leadership test....San Fran needs more than a QB and he just sucked the air out of the budget. His play was avg at best...to me he is a candidate for a Trevor Simian like disappearing act.......
 
The 49ers signed him to a 5 year, $137.5 million contract. At $27.5 million per year, he's just over Matthew Stafford's $27 mil per year.

When the 49ers first made the trade, I was thinking they should franchise tag him and see how he did for a season. After seeing him play, after he went undefeated on a previously 1-win team, after the 49ers went from 17 PPG to 28.8 PPG, after the 49ers only had 1 three-and-out drive that led to a punt, after everything having Jimmy G start did to elevate the organization, I am on board with this deal.

There's $74 million in guaranteed money. I don't know about the difficulty in the team getting out of the contract if it becomes necessary, or if the pay is front-loaded, but I'm optimistic about things working out.

Cousins will likely end up getting more, Brees might, and if the contract talks work out in Green Bay, Rodgers will. Despite the small sample size, though, Garoppolo has so far looked like a franchise QB. Considering how poorly the 49ers did before his arrival, and how much cap space they have, getting this guy signed to a long-term deal was the right move, IMO.

True. They must have extreme confidance in him that he can be effective in a entire 16 game season to offer so much money for him like that.

Yeah before his arrival,the niners did not know the meaning of the word winning the last three or four years.

He is a pretty impressive quarterback,I got to watch him against the Rams in the final game of the season and saw him in a pre seasaon game with the pats once and he was impressive both time.

they obviously have confidance in him that he will continue to win for them as he did the last five games of the year when he came off the bench which is pretty cool actually if he indeed is going to turn the fortunes around for team as wilson did for the hawks and brady did for the pats. which is fine with me cause i would LOVE more than anything to see that california rivalry of the niners and rams back.:yes_text12::dance:

well it IS back with the Rams back in LA. As the announcers said last year,it,doesnt matter if it is a year where both teams are horrible as they were last year,the fans get into that particular game because of their history same as the bears and packers do.:) they sold out BOTH times last year and this year as well in both SF and LA.

But a rivalray is MAINLY called that because of two teams fighting it out neck and neck to win the division title which the niners and rams did of course so many times in the 70's and 80's.:) that looks to be right around the corner again.:banana:



oh and when Jimmy G turns the fortunes of this franchise around next year and they have winning season after winning season,I can pretty much count on all of you Belicheat apologists to say that Kyle Shannahan is the greatest coach in the NFL next to Belicheat since like Belicheat,a QB is going to come on and save his ass from the toilet and keep him from being a loser his whole life as he was destined to be before Brady saved his ass from being a complete failure in the NFL as he was on the road to being before he came along and saved it.
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people always forget that Belicheat his first year there when he had Bledsoe as his starter,they had a losing season. Well Shanahan had a losing season his first year in SF and now looks like he is going to have a bunch of winning seasons year after year as well which means of course i will hear from you that he is ALSO a great coach since a good QB came along and saved his ass from being a failure as belicheat was his whole life before Brady save it,:iyfyus.jpg:


its always amusing that everytime i bring up those pesky facts this is what you do-:scared1:

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Do you think Bill Walsh was a bad coach because he had Montana?

Was Don Schula a bad coach for having Marino?

Was Mike Holmgren a bad coach for having Favre?

Was Tony Dungy a bad coach for winning his Super Bowl when he had Manning?

Or is only Belichick hurt by having a great QB?

apples and oranges.:haha:

the difference in all THOSE coachs is they were all successful in other places they went. where they coached another team Walsh and Shula being the exception.:haha: Walsh it was always well known wayyyyy before he had Montana,that he was an offensive genius so he clearly had a hand in the development of Montana.LOL Shula also coached and was great under Bob Griese before Marino.Shula was also known as an offesive genius as well.LOL he proved that by when he had Griese,their offensive game plan was mostly a running attack and passing was limited where when got Marino and saw that he had a lighting quick release unlike any other NFL quarterback to ever play the game plus had a strong accurate arm,since he was a good coach,he was willing to change his style and adapt it to the passing game with Marino having such a strong accurate arm.

People like Old Yeller get what i am saying but you like all Belicheat apologists,only see what you WANT to see as we both know.:itsok:

Like I said,I am quite looking forward next year to hearing you Belicheat apologists say Kyle Shannahan is one of the best coachs in the NFL when Jimmy turns the fortunes of your team around.:iyfyus.jpg:

Are you aware that in 1 of Belichick's years coaching the Browns, they went 11-5, went to the playoffs, and won their first playoff game? Are you also aware that since that time, the Browns have been to exactly 1 playoff game and have won exactly 0?

Of course Belichick has done better having one of the greatest QBs ever. What coach wouldn't? That doesn't mean the success the Patriots have had under Belichick isn't incredibly impressive. In his 18 years as coach, the Pats have won their division 15 times, been to the AFC Championship Game 12 times, and the Super Bowl 8 times. That is an unprecedented level of success, and it's been done in the salary cap era, while the league has looked for parity.

Oh, and have you forgotten that the Patriots went 11-5 with Matt Cassel as the starter? Cassel has had a winning record as a starter (where he started more than 1 game) twice. His 10-5 record as the Pats starter is one of those 2 winning seasons.

When Brady was suspended for 4 games, the Pats went 3-1, using both Garoppolo and Jacoby Brissett.

But it's all Brady, right?

Belichick is better with Brady. I don't doubt that at all. Brady is probably better with Belichick, as well. That doesn't mean either of them is not great.

Like clockwork,eveytime you are confronted with pesky facts you evade them not talking about the facts WHY Belicheat is not that good by posting irrelevent stuff that have noting to do with the facts,everytime you do both of these below when getting taken to school he isnt that good a coach.
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for the hundreth time, the games are scripted.that is WHY they went 3-1 without Brady.

again ONE WINNING SEASON and a playoff win big wow.:dig:

one fluke winning season big wow.:haha:

and yes,I am very aware of how the cheats went 11-5 when wuss brady who could not take a mere hit the knee by a mere helmet went out for the year and cassel took over and went 11-5. But that just shows you have alzhemiers diseace because EVERYITME you mention that point,you always somehow forget this fact as well that cassel ALSO went 10-6 with the chiefs under Todd Haley so according to YOUR logic, I guess Todd Haley is a good

coach as well and that was not a fluke year for the chiefs and todd haley.:haha:

oh and its also comical you think brady is the best QB ever since i proved he is a huge wuss who cant even take a mere helmet to the knee hit missing an entire season as he did like the wuss he is and playing in an age where the defenders cant even touch the recievers anymore downfield and the QB plays with a skirt on since brady obviously whined like a baby to the NFL to have the rules changed after that.:rofl:

Brady is the best ever thats why he would not have lasted on season in the NFL back in the day when Bradshaw and Montana played where defenses could throw the quarterback around like a ragdoll and were allowed to blindside him long after he released the ball. I remember seeing a lot of the steelers games back then where bradshaw took some vicous hits like no other quarterback in the league has EVER had to endure as him and his fellow tough guy QB's back in that day and age had to endure CONSTANTLY. Brady would not even be able to take ONE of those vicous hits quarterbacks like Len Dawson,Johhny Unitas,Fran Tarkenton,Y A Title,Joe Namath.Bob Grise,Roman Gabriel,Joe Montana,John Brodie,ect,ect,ect had to endure CONSTANTLY ALL THE TIME. yet you think he is the greatest of all time?

comedy gold.He isnt even one of the top 20 of all time the fact he would easily have failed in that era being the wuss he was and been hospitalized after one game or never have had the passing yards or completions he has since back then defenses were allowed to play defense.:iyfyus.jpg:

I posted some facts. :cuckoo:
 
I look at this as a failure of your first leadership test....San Fran needs more than a QB and he just sucked the air out of the budget. His play was avg at best...to me he is a candidate for a Trevor Simian like disappearing act.......

"Sucked the air out of the budget"? The 49ers had the second most cap space to play with. They still have a ton of cap space. Their budget is not currently an issue.
 
True. They must have extreme confidance in him that he can be effective in a entire 16 game season to offer so much money for him like that.

Yeah before his arrival,the niners did not know the meaning of the word winning the last three or four years.

He is a pretty impressive quarterback,I got to watch him against the Rams in the final game of the season and saw him in a pre seasaon game with the pats once and he was impressive both time.

they obviously have confidance in him that he will continue to win for them as he did the last five games of the year when he came off the bench which is pretty cool actually if he indeed is going to turn the fortunes around for team as wilson did for the hawks and brady did for the pats. which is fine with me cause i would LOVE more than anything to see that california rivalry of the niners and rams back.:yes_text12::dance:

well it IS back with the Rams back in LA. As the announcers said last year,it,doesnt matter if it is a year where both teams are horrible as they were last year,the fans get into that particular game because of their history same as the bears and packers do.:) they sold out BOTH times last year and this year as well in both SF and LA.

But a rivalray is MAINLY called that because of two teams fighting it out neck and neck to win the division title which the niners and rams did of course so many times in the 70's and 80's.:) that looks to be right around the corner again.:banana:



oh and when Jimmy G turns the fortunes of this franchise around next year and they have winning season after winning season,I can pretty much count on all of you Belicheat apologists to say that Kyle Shannahan is the greatest coach in the NFL next to Belicheat since like Belicheat,a QB is going to come on and save his ass from the toilet and keep him from being a loser his whole life as he was destined to be before Brady saved his ass from being a complete failure in the NFL as he was on the road to being before he came along and saved it.
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people always forget that Belicheat his first year there when he had Bledsoe as his starter,they had a losing season. Well Shanahan had a losing season his first year in SF and now looks like he is going to have a bunch of winning seasons year after year as well which means of course i will hear from you that he is ALSO a great coach since a good QB came along and saved his ass from being a failure as belicheat was his whole life before Brady save it,:iyfyus.jpg:


its always amusing that everytime i bring up those pesky facts this is what you do-:scared1:

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Do you think Bill Walsh was a bad coach because he had Montana?

Was Don Schula a bad coach for having Marino?

Was Mike Holmgren a bad coach for having Favre?

Was Tony Dungy a bad coach for winning his Super Bowl when he had Manning?

Or is only Belichick hurt by having a great QB?

apples and oranges.:haha:

the difference in all THOSE coachs is they were all successful in other places they went. where they coached another team Walsh and Shula being the exception.:haha: Walsh it was always well known wayyyyy before he had Montana,that he was an offensive genius so he clearly had a hand in the development of Montana.LOL Shula also coached and was great under Bob Griese before Marino.Shula was also known as an offesive genius as well.LOL he proved that by when he had Griese,their offensive game plan was mostly a running attack and passing was limited where when got Marino and saw that he had a lighting quick release unlike any other NFL quarterback to ever play the game plus had a strong accurate arm,since he was a good coach,he was willing to change his style and adapt it to the passing game with Marino having such a strong accurate arm.

People like Old Yeller get what i am saying but you like all Belicheat apologists,only see what you WANT to see as we both know.:itsok:

Like I said,I am quite looking forward next year to hearing you Belicheat apologists say Kyle Shannahan is one of the best coachs in the NFL when Jimmy turns the fortunes of your team around.:iyfyus.jpg:

Are you aware that in 1 of Belichick's years coaching the Browns, they went 11-5, went to the playoffs, and won their first playoff game? Are you also aware that since that time, the Browns have been to exactly 1 playoff game and have won exactly 0?

Of course Belichick has done better having one of the greatest QBs ever. What coach wouldn't? That doesn't mean the success the Patriots have had under Belichick isn't incredibly impressive. In his 18 years as coach, the Pats have won their division 15 times, been to the AFC Championship Game 12 times, and the Super Bowl 8 times. That is an unprecedented level of success, and it's been done in the salary cap era, while the league has looked for parity.

Oh, and have you forgotten that the Patriots went 11-5 with Matt Cassel as the starter? Cassel has had a winning record as a starter (where he started more than 1 game) twice. His 10-5 record as the Pats starter is one of those 2 winning seasons.

When Brady was suspended for 4 games, the Pats went 3-1, using both Garoppolo and Jacoby Brissett.

But it's all Brady, right?

Belichick is better with Brady. I don't doubt that at all. Brady is probably better with Belichick, as well. That doesn't mean either of them is not great.

Like clockwork,eveytime you are confronted with pesky facts you evade them not talking about the facts WHY Belicheat is not that good by posting irrelevent stuff that have noting to do with the facts,everytime you do both of these below when getting taken to school he isnt that good a coach.
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for the hundreth time, the games are scripted.that is WHY they went 3-1 without Brady.

again ONE WINNING SEASON and a playoff win big wow.:dig:

one fluke winning season big wow.:haha:

and yes,I am very aware of how the cheats went 11-5 when wuss brady who could not take a mere hit the knee by a mere helmet went out for the year and cassel took over and went 11-5. But that just shows you have alzhemiers diseace because EVERYITME you mention that point,you always somehow forget this fact as well that cassel ALSO went 10-6 with the chiefs under Todd Haley so according to YOUR logic, I guess Todd Haley is a good

coach as well and that was not a fluke year for the chiefs and todd haley.:haha:

oh and its also comical you think brady is the best QB ever since i proved he is a huge wuss who cant even take a mere helmet to the knee hit missing an entire season as he did like the wuss he is and playing in an age where the defenders cant even touch the recievers anymore downfield and the QB plays with a skirt on since brady obviously whined like a baby to the NFL to have the rules changed after that.:rofl:

Brady is the best ever thats why he would not have lasted on season in the NFL back in the day when Bradshaw and Montana played where defenses could throw the quarterback around like a ragdoll and were allowed to blindside him long after he released the ball. I remember seeing a lot of the steelers games back then where bradshaw took some vicous hits like no other quarterback in the league has EVER had to endure as him and his fellow tough guy QB's back in that day and age had to endure CONSTANTLY. Brady would not even be able to take ONE of those vicous hits quarterbacks like Len Dawson,Johhny Unitas,Fran Tarkenton,Y A Title,Joe Namath.Bob Grise,Roman Gabriel,Joe Montana,John Brodie,ect,ect,ect had to endure CONSTANTLY ALL THE TIME. yet you think he is the greatest of all time?

comedy gold.He isnt even one of the top 20 of all time the fact he would easily have failed in that era being the wuss he was and been hospitalized after one game or never have had the passing yards or completions he has since back then defenses were allowed to play defense.:iyfyus.jpg:

I posted some facts. :cuckoo:

911Insidejob doesn’t like facts, he likes to make up shit as he goes.
 
True. They must have extreme confidance in him that he can be effective in a entire 16 game season to offer so much money for him like that.

Yeah before his arrival,the niners did not know the meaning of the word winning the last three or four years.

He is a pretty impressive quarterback,I got to watch him against the Rams in the final game of the season and saw him in a pre seasaon game with the pats once and he was impressive both time.

they obviously have confidance in him that he will continue to win for them as he did the last five games of the year when he came off the bench which is pretty cool actually if he indeed is going to turn the fortunes around for team as wilson did for the hawks and brady did for the pats. which is fine with me cause i would LOVE more than anything to see that california rivalry of the niners and rams back.:yes_text12::dance:

well it IS back with the Rams back in LA. As the announcers said last year,it,doesnt matter if it is a year where both teams are horrible as they were last year,the fans get into that particular game because of their history same as the bears and packers do.:) they sold out BOTH times last year and this year as well in both SF and LA.

But a rivalray is MAINLY called that because of two teams fighting it out neck and neck to win the division title which the niners and rams did of course so many times in the 70's and 80's.:) that looks to be right around the corner again.:banana:



oh and when Jimmy G turns the fortunes of this franchise around next year and they have winning season after winning season,I can pretty much count on all of you Belicheat apologists to say that Kyle Shannahan is the greatest coach in the NFL next to Belicheat since like Belicheat,a QB is going to come on and save his ass from the toilet and keep him from being a loser his whole life as he was destined to be before Brady saved his ass from being a complete failure in the NFL as he was on the road to being before he came along and saved it.
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people always forget that Belicheat his first year there when he had Bledsoe as his starter,they had a losing season. Well Shanahan had a losing season his first year in SF and now looks like he is going to have a bunch of winning seasons year after year as well which means of course i will hear from you that he is ALSO a great coach since a good QB came along and saved his ass from being a failure as belicheat was his whole life before Brady save it,:iyfyus.jpg:


its always amusing that everytime i bring up those pesky facts this is what you do-:scared1:

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Do you think Bill Walsh was a bad coach because he had Montana?

Was Don Schula a bad coach for having Marino?

Was Mike Holmgren a bad coach for having Favre?

Was Tony Dungy a bad coach for winning his Super Bowl when he had Manning?

Or is only Belichick hurt by having a great QB?

apples and oranges.:haha:

the difference in all THOSE coachs is they were all successful in other places they went. where they coached another team Walsh and Shula being the exception.:haha: Walsh it was always well known wayyyyy before he had Montana,that he was an offensive genius so he clearly had a hand in the development of Montana.LOL Shula also coached and was great under Bob Griese before Marino.Shula was also known as an offesive genius as well.LOL he proved that by when he had Griese,their offensive game plan was mostly a running attack and passing was limited where when got Marino and saw that he had a lighting quick release unlike any other NFL quarterback to ever play the game plus had a strong accurate arm,since he was a good coach,he was willing to change his style and adapt it to the passing game with Marino having such a strong accurate arm.

People like Old Yeller get what i am saying but you like all Belicheat apologists,only see what you WANT to see as we both know.:itsok:

Like I said,I am quite looking forward next year to hearing you Belicheat apologists say Kyle Shannahan is one of the best coachs in the NFL when Jimmy turns the fortunes of your team around.:iyfyus.jpg:

Are you aware that in 1 of Belichick's years coaching the Browns, they went 11-5, went to the playoffs, and won their first playoff game? Are you also aware that since that time, the Browns have been to exactly 1 playoff game and have won exactly 0?

Of course Belichick has done better having one of the greatest QBs ever. What coach wouldn't? That doesn't mean the success the Patriots have had under Belichick isn't incredibly impressive. In his 18 years as coach, the Pats have won their division 15 times, been to the AFC Championship Game 12 times, and the Super Bowl 8 times. That is an unprecedented level of success, and it's been done in the salary cap era, while the league has looked for parity.

Oh, and have you forgotten that the Patriots went 11-5 with Matt Cassel as the starter? Cassel has had a winning record as a starter (where he started more than 1 game) twice. His 10-5 record as the Pats starter is one of those 2 winning seasons.

When Brady was suspended for 4 games, the Pats went 3-1, using both Garoppolo and Jacoby Brissett.

But it's all Brady, right?

Belichick is better with Brady. I don't doubt that at all. Brady is probably better with Belichick, as well. That doesn't mean either of them is not great.

Like clockwork,eveytime you are confronted with pesky facts you evade them not talking about the facts WHY Belicheat is not that good by posting irrelevent stuff that have noting to do with the facts,everytime you do both of these below when getting taken to school he isnt that good a coach.
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for the hundreth time, the games are scripted.that is WHY they went 3-1 without Brady.

again ONE WINNING SEASON and a playoff win big wow.:dig:

one fluke winning season big wow.:haha:

and yes,I am very aware of how the cheats went 11-5 when wuss brady who could not take a mere hit the knee by a mere helmet went out for the year and cassel took over and went 11-5. But that just shows you have alzhemiers diseace because EVERYITME you mention that point,you always somehow forget this fact as well that cassel ALSO went 10-6 with the chiefs under Todd Haley so according to YOUR logic, I guess Todd Haley is a good

coach as well and that was not a fluke year for the chiefs and todd haley.:haha:

oh and its also comical you think brady is the best QB ever since i proved he is a huge wuss who cant even take a mere helmet to the knee hit missing an entire season as he did like the wuss he is and playing in an age where the defenders cant even touch the recievers anymore downfield and the QB plays with a skirt on since brady obviously whined like a baby to the NFL to have the rules changed after that.:rofl:

Brady is the best ever thats why he would not have lasted on season in the NFL back in the day when Bradshaw and Montana played where defenses could throw the quarterback around like a ragdoll and were allowed to blindside him long after he released the ball. I remember seeing a lot of the steelers games back then where bradshaw took some vicous hits like no other quarterback in the league has EVER had to endure as him and his fellow tough guy QB's back in that day and age had to endure CONSTANTLY. Brady would not even be able to take ONE of those vicous hits quarterbacks like Len Dawson,Johhny Unitas,Fran Tarkenton,Y A Title,Joe Namath.Bob Grise,Roman Gabriel,Joe Montana,John Brodie,ect,ect,ect had to endure CONSTANTLY ALL THE TIME. yet you think he is the greatest of all time?

comedy gold.He isnt even one of the top 20 of all time the fact he would easily have failed in that era being the wuss he was and been hospitalized after one game or never have had the passing yards or completions he has since back then defenses were allowed to play defense.:iyfyus.jpg:

I posted some facts. :cuckoo:

which were ALL irrelevent to the facts i posted and did not refute them that he is not that good a coach.
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again i think shannon sharp and skip bayless have just a litttttttttttttlllleeeee bit more credibility than you,pooper and WRONGwinger do. when they are saying the same thing here taking you to school that YOUR facts dont mean nothing,mine DO.:iyfyus.jpg::itsok::itsok:

Deal with it,shannon sharp and skip bayless OWNED you here,.here is your crying towel.:iyfyus.jpg::itsok::itsok:

they are saying the EXACT same things i been saying that you always evade.dont take it too hard that i owned you,feel good you got owned by professsionls who know ten times more than any of us shannon sharp and skip bayless do,that should held you to deal with being checkmated by me that they are cheating frauds that are not that good and who have created the biggest scandal in sports history since the black sox,:itsok::itsok: that he is not that good.:iyfyus.jpg:



WORSE than the black sox since they have been involved in MULTIPLE scandals proving they are frauds:haha:

when you got a former center of the team that played on three superbowls saying brady is cheater,thats pretty bad.:iyfyus.jpg::haha:
 
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