Joe was bad, Trump was worse

Watch as Joe suddenly has a health crisis and can’t run. That will make it easy to replace him and D voters will gladly accept it.
The most epic October Surprise will be a health crises for Joe and Trump, two weeks before the election. .. One suffering from a stroke, the other a heart attack. . .

Can you imagine president RFK jr. having to preside over both of them lying in state, in the capital rotunda together as the votes are coming in to elect him as the new president?

. . . it would be the last time they had a chance to lie in the same room together. (pun intended.)

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I thought he looked and sounded like a guy who didn't prepare and who rambled incoherently when he didn't have answers to policy questions.

As for "command of his talking points" - you mean he spoke clearly when he repeatedly lied about killing babies after they're born, or when saying "everyone wanted Roe gone", because NO ONE, aside from the most radical bigots in the Republican Party, wanted Roe gone. No Constitutional Scholars, no one on the right or left, only the misogynists and fring right wingers wanted it gone.

Telling his lies forcefully doesn't mean he had "command of his talking points".
Better than mumbling, and trailing off…
 
Are you planning on ending tourism and business travel? If not, your borders will remain "open" as they always have been. What is needed is a modern immigration law, one that was wasn't written before the internet was invented, free trade deals existed, and terrorism didn't happen in the USA.

Drug smuggling and the opiod epidemic has nothing to do with the border and drug smuggling. Opiod deaths just kept climbing the whole time Trump supposedly "closed" the border. America's addiction problem is due to Big Pharma pushing opiods as "pain killers".

Your problem isn't "open borders". It's employers willing to give illegals jobs. Prosecute the employers and they'll stop hiring illegals. If illegals can't get a job, they don't come.
You are nuts.
 
The only process is available if Joe steps aside. Then i am guessing it goes to the convention where he would direct his voters to vote for someone else. Would make good TV. Not sure he will step aside on one bad debate though. He should.
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If they are truly desperate, and the polls show the DNC losing, say. . . NY?

. . . . and he still is refusing to step aside? Section four is always there.


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There is no sugar coating it for democrats, Joe Biden’s performance was abysmal. He wasnt sharp. He wasnt clear. But worst of all he didn’t call out Trump’s incessant lying.

Trump was worse. He demonstrated a completed disconnect from reality, hung on to the narrative the election was stolen, tried to reframe January 6 insurgents as prisoners, and tried to blame Nancy Pelosi for not stopping him from trying to take over the election results through force. WTF? He even said people want to kill 9 month old babies fairly unchallenged. The guy was unhinged and full of shit.

I am not sure what the Democratic Party should do about its candidate seemingly lack of sharpness when it mattered but I do know no one should not walk away think Trump won, Trump actually lost the debate. However, Biden likely lost his party by not disputing the incessent lies spewed by Donald Trump. Democrats deserve a candidate that can debunk the easy to dispute moronic lies of Donald Trump. Your move Biden.


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At the end of last night they were saying "No" to Joe Biden and "HELL NO" to Donald Trump.

Nope. The moderates and independents were disgusted with them both, and went to look at what the other candidates were saying about the debate. They were not even considering either of these two clowns.

. Biden has made good decisions throughout his Presidency, the first of which was to surround himself with good people.

Nope, Biden clearly has hired only suck ups and yes men. Folks that have integrity will tell their leader the truth, and care about the American people.

They would have told him by now, he either needs to step down, or they would have invoked clause four of the 25th Amendment, rather than let him go on like this. They would have done that after Special counsel Robert Hur’s report on Biden’s handling of classified documents. You are really too partisan and too dumb to be taken seriously.
 
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US had twice the death rate that north Europe.
It is now a fact, that the reason the U.S. had twice the death rate, has nothing to do with the response, but everything to do with the behavior of Americans, the demographics, and their diet and exercise.

World wide, the BMI and age of the population is positively correlated with the death rate of COVID cases, that is all.

The older and more obese a population? The more COVID deaths.

It has nothing to do with anything else.
 
bernie wasn't an anti vaxx nutter.
Neither is RFKjr.

He is pro-safe vaccines. He just wants to open up the records of the FDA and CDC files, which are on the take of BIG PHARMA, this is not in dispute.

You are parroting misinformation now. :dunno:

This is one of his biggest issues across the board for all industries. It is why we have permanent war, and never have sensible foreign policy or gun control. . .

It is why both of these parties have given us such terrible candidates. . . the corporate finance of campaigns.

The energy industry, the weapons manufactures, how BIG AG is poisoning our food.. . . why don't you even want to educate yourself?

 
There is no sugar coating it for democrats, Joe Biden’s performance was abysmal. He wasnt sharp. He wasnt clear. But worst of all he didn’t call out Trump’s incessant lying.

Trump was worse. He demonstrated a completed disconnect from reality, hung on to the narrative the election was stolen, tried to reframe January 6 insurgents as prisoners, and tried to blame Nancy Pelosi for not stopping him from trying to take over the election results through force. WTF? He even said people want to kill 9 month old babies fairly unchallenged. The guy was unhinged and full of shit.

I am not sure what the Democratic Party should do about its candidate seemingly lack of sharpness when it mattered but I do know no one should not walk away think Trump won, Trump actually lost the debate. However, Biden likely lost his party by not disputing the incessent lies spewed by Donald Trump. Democrats deserve a candidate that can debunk the easy to dispute moronic lies of Donald Trump. Your move Biden.

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I wasn't aware that they've already held the election.

Added to which, Donald Trump did absolutely NOTHING to convince independent voters that he's even close to sane or competent. At the end of last night they were saying "No" to Joe Biden and "HELL NO" to Donald Trump.

Unlike members of the Cult, independents KNOW the difference between how really things are in the USA, and the anti-American dystopian view of the nation that Trump has, and they're not buying the lies.
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There is no sugar coating it for democrats, Joe Biden’s performance was abysmal. He wasnt sharp. He wasnt clear. But worst of all he didn’t call out Trump’s incessant lying.

Trump was worse. He demonstrated a completed disconnect from reality, hung on to the narrative the election was stolen, tried to reframe January 6 insurgents as prisoners, and tried to blame Nancy Pelosi for not stopping him from trying to take over the election results through force. WTF? He even said people want to kill 9 month old babies fairly unchallenged. The guy was unhinged and full of shit.

I am not sure what the Democratic Party should do about its candidate seemingly lack of sharpness when it mattered but I do know no one should not walk away think Trump won, Trump actually lost the debate. However, Biden likely lost his party by not disputing the incessent lies spewed by Donald Trump. Democrats deserve a candidate that can debunk the easy to dispute moronic lies of Donald Trump. Your move Biden.

You can argue that Biden was the most honest of the two, but the public doesn’t care about that. People want the sizzle not the stake, and Trump delivered as far as salesmanship is concerned.
 

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