Judge Challenges Prosecution Bullshit at Manafort Trial

[koshergrl]

Flea brain? Trump Derangement Syndrom? I just conceded Trumps legitimacy even if it would be proven he's a criminal. A man I despise both for his policies and for his person. Because I believe it's the responsibility off congress to oust a president. It's an act of integrity and respect towards the constitution and Democracy so far removed from your capability to understand that you don't even see it. Let alone acknowledge it. You know what? Call me some more names and see it it does anything beyond highlighting your own surrender of reason on the altar of blind partisanship.

You may get more respect on this forum if you would bother to correct your spelling mistakes.
Maybe you don't know any better.

Whatever would I do without the respect of people like you and Rosy? If integrity and honesty can't convince a person, then I'm afraid flawless spelling won't either. As to what I know. I know that a person who feels he has to comment on spelling, without even attempting to engage the premise of what a person says, usually doesn't have anything interesting to say. Thanks for pointing out my flaws for me though , I have many more.

If you want respect get off your knees and salute the flag, and stop defending the fools who kneel, also remember to call the president sir

Rosy, I can say in absolute honesty that I don't give a flying fuck whether or not you respect me. If I would gain the respect of a person who is as dishonest, blatantly partisan, not to mention apparently dumb enough to not have a consistent argument for 5 hours as you, I would probably not be worthy of respect. Rebutting straw man arguments, deflections and outright dishonesty is not a productive use of my time. So we are done.

Yet keep on arguing u go. Sad that you do not respect yourself.....

But thanks for your time, I enjoyed laughing

No kidding.
They don't respect themselves, I've known it for decades. No integrity, no soul, no honor, and no character.They know it, and embrace it.
That is the best way to define leftists.

 

[koshergrl]

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Mueller investigation is a crock of shit. Will result in same if charges are brought. Bunch of Keystone Cops amateur hour that can’t get over fact that Hillary lost in 2016. Donald J. Trump is doing a great job as President and you socialist turds will be taught another lesson in 2018 mid-terms. Public is sick of liberal media and campus professoriate trying to tell them how to think and what opinions they should have.
Manafort prosecutors, Judge Ellis engage in 10-minute courtroom spat

Thanks for admitting you have no respect for the law just like your POS president.

That isn't law. That's racketeering.

The people involved in those investigations and cover ups should be executed.

 

[koshergrl]

Mueller investigation is a crock of shit. Will result in same if charges are brought. Bunch of Keystone Cops amateur hour that can’t get over fact that Hillary lost in 2016. Donald J. Trump is doing a great job as President and you socialist turds will be taught another lesson in 2018 mid-terms. Public is sick of liberal media and campus professoriate trying to tell them how to think and what opinions they should have.
Manafort prosecutors, Judge Ellis engage in 10-minute courtroom spat

I love these kinds of post. You're arguing that a case should be thrown out, not because of the accused not being guilty. Not because of a lack of evidence. Not even because the judge is fundamentally disagreeing with the evidence. No you are claiming that when a judge challenges the way the prosecution is presenting its case in any form, charges should be dropped.

No it needs to be thrown out because the charges lack merit..and the prosecution isn't trying to prove the charges, but instead are just flinging shit.

“I don’t know if they are bad or good. And I don’t care,” Ellis argued, reiterating his previous claim that the prosecution seemed to be focusing not on the actual charges but on what he considered “political contributions.”

"Ellis again compared the Ukrainians in question to American billionaires and “Mr. Koch and Mr. Soros” as political contributors.

“I don’t know why you keep bringing (up) these people,” Andres said, referring to the Ukrainians. “These people are not like any Americans. These people are oligarchs and that means they control a segment of the economy based on the governments allowing them to do that.”’

“These are not really political contributions,” he continued. “They are self-serving payments with respect to what oligarchs do.”

“That makes it even clearer to me that it doesn’t have anything to do with the allegations in this case,” Ellis responded. “It throws dirt on these people. They may deserve it. I don’t know - and I don’t care.”

Manafort prosecutors, Judge Ellis engage in 10-minute courtroom spat

Clearly, you've not looked at the MOUNTAIN of evidence. You simply don't care because Crooked Paul is one of your ilk.

No. I just understand what is a crime, and what isn't.

And the judge does too. That's why he's getting fed up with federal prosecutors who use the courts for absolute BULLSHIT that has nothing to do with law, or justice:


"“What matters are the allegations that he made money from them and didn’t report it,” Ellis said. “You don't need to throw mud at these people.”
"...it doesn’t have anything to do with the allegations in this case,” Ellis responded. “It throws dirt on these people. They may deserve it. I don’t know - and I don’t care.”

The judge is 100 percent onto the schmucks that draw federal dollars to pollute the courts.

Manafort prosecutors, Judge Ellis engage in 10-minute courtroom spat

 

[koshergrl]

typical liberal response - blame the judge. the left is never accountable for their actions it's always someone else holding them down.

grow the fuck up dude.

You grow the fuck up. I have now seen minimally 5 expert former federal prosecutors and a retired judge who have suggested his behavior is entirely inappropriate.

Manafort Judge Sass Watch: He May Have Made a Prosecutor Cry
Judge Ellis behavior in Manafort trial risks helping the defense

His job is to impose the law in the court.
No federal crybabies, you don't get to toss judges who tell you to shape up.

 

[iceberg]

typical liberal response - blame the judge. the left is never accountable for their actions it's always someone else holding them down.

grow the fuck up dude.

You grow the fuck up. I have now seen minimally 5 expert former federal prosecutors and a retired judge who have suggested his behavior is entirely inappropriate.

Manafort Judge Sass Watch: He May Have Made a Prosecutor Cry
Judge Ellis behavior in Manafort trial risks helping the defense

none of which excuses meullers several missteps so far in this case.

get the fuck back to ignore now.

 

[jc456]

Mueller investigation is a crock of shit. Will result in same if charges are brought. Bunch of Keystone Cops amateur hour that can’t get over fact that Hillary lost in 2016. Donald J. Trump is doing a great job as President and you socialist turds will be taught another lesson in 2018 mid-terms. Public is sick of liberal media and campus professoriate trying to tell them how to think and what opinions they should have.
Manafort prosecutors, Judge Ellis engage in 10-minute courtroom spat

I love these kinds of post. You're arguing that a case should be thrown out, not because of the accused not being guilty. Not because of a lack of evidence. Not even because the judge is fundamentally disagreeing with the evidence. No you are claiming that when a judge challenges the way the prosecution is presenting its case in any form, charges should be dropped.

no based on what the judge said. they haven't submitted evidence of tax evasion. just political hate. so what is the case really about is the question the judge asked. It seems mueller's team can't answer that and for that reason alone, it should get tossed. It's obvious they have no evidence to support the charges.

 

[g5000]

This all happened in like 2005.

Nope. Manafort worked for Ukranian mobsters from 2004 to 2014.

Nice try.

 

[g5000]

A guy who worked for a Russian lickspittle and mobsters with connections to the Russian regime offers to work for free as Donald Trump's campaign manager.

Hmmmm. No red warning lights here!

 

[mudwhistle]

Please back up the assertion that the prosecution's case in the Manafort trial is "bullshit." What do you know about him and Gates and their foreign bank accounts? Are you an insider?

The point about all of this is Manafort is being prosecuted simply because he worked for Trump for a few days.
That is the only reason they broke into his home.
How many of us would stand up under such scrutiny.
The press and the liars in the Democrat party will repeatedly say that Manafort worked for Trump.
Nothing else matters.
The Clintons had to amend their last tax return because of undeclared income and were allowed to. Manafort wasn't offered that option.

More mental masterbation for the trumpets....

Manafort wilfully evaded tax.... the proof is there....

Your problem is that you know Trump is guilty and that Manafort might have proof. Why didn't vote for a guy who isn't a criminal...

Because you can't resist a guy who jerks off your bigoted views...

Now when answering this don't forget "BUT BUT HILLARY/OBAMA.........

Guilty of what exactly?
No evidence exists of any crime, yet you keep saying Trump is guilty.

He's not guilty of beating Hillary, is he?
There's evidence of that.

 

[forkup]

Mueller investigation is a crock of shit. Will result in same if charges are brought. Bunch of Keystone Cops amateur hour that can’t get over fact that Hillary lost in 2016. Donald J. Trump is doing a great job as President and you socialist turds will be taught another lesson in 2018 mid-terms. Public is sick of liberal media and campus professoriate trying to tell them how to think and what opinions they should have.
Manafort prosecutors, Judge Ellis engage in 10-minute courtroom spat

I love these kinds of post. You're arguing that a case should be thrown out, not because of the accused not being guilty. Not because of a lack of evidence. Not even because the judge is fundamentally disagreeing with the evidence. No you are claiming that when a judge challenges the way the prosecution is presenting its case in any form, charges should be dropped.

No it needs to be thrown out because the charges lack merit..and the prosecution isn't trying to prove the charges, but instead are just flinging shit.

“I don’t know if they are bad or good. And I don’t care,” Ellis argued, reiterating his previous claim that the prosecution seemed to be focusing not on the actual charges but on what he considered “political contributions.”

"Ellis again compared the Ukrainians in question to American billionaires and “Mr. Koch and Mr. Soros” as political contributors.

“I don’t know why you keep bringing (up) these people,” Andres said, referring to the Ukrainians. “These people are not like any Americans. These people are oligarchs and that means they control a segment of the economy based on the governments allowing them to do that.”’

“These are not really political contributions,” he continued. “They are self-serving payments with respect to what oligarchs do.”

“That makes it even clearer to me that it doesn’t have anything to do with the allegations in this case,” Ellis responded. “It throws dirt on these people. They may deserve it. I don’t know - and I don’t care.”

Manafort prosecutors, Judge Ellis engage in 10-minute courtroom spat

Clearly, you've not looked at the MOUNTAIN of evidence. You simply don't care because Crooked Paul is one of your ilk.

if there's a mountain of evidence and this so clear to even us commoners, how come meuller is having a hard time in court with it?

if paul is guilty - take him in the same way you would anyone you don't know who faces this daily. but google "obama appointments tax evasion" and see how many tax cheats he put into public offices on his staff.

didn't see you and your "ilk" get upset about that.

Mueller is not having a bit of trouble in court. This judge just happens to be a grumpy, senile old asshole who favors the defense and should have retired ten years ago.

Thanks for rating my post as winner. Having said that and in the interest of honesty I want to say something. If the argument that a judge disallowed evidence so that means the prosecutors are imbeciles, and therefor the case should be dismissed is bullshit ( which it is). Than so is the argument that the judge favors the defense so he has to be a grumpy, senile old asshole. A judge act as a referee in these kinds of cases. I personally don't like a judge curtailing the prosecutors ability to make it's case in the interest of brevity, that doesn't mean it's necessarily wrong. I think he's ruling that the prosecutions case is sufficiently strong and the detail that they are providing unnecessary. Either way, making claims about this judge on the bases on who the law is favoring by a ruling is wrong.

 

[koshergrl]

I love these kinds of post. You're arguing that a case should be thrown out, not because of the accused not being guilty. Not because of a lack of evidence. Not even because the judge is fundamentally disagreeing with the evidence. No you are claiming that when a judge challenges the way the prosecution is presenting its case in any form, charges should be dropped.

No it needs to be thrown out because the charges lack merit..and the prosecution isn't trying to prove the charges, but instead are just flinging shit.

“I don’t know if they are bad or good. And I don’t care,” Ellis argued, reiterating his previous claim that the prosecution seemed to be focusing not on the actual charges but on what he considered “political contributions.”

"Ellis again compared the Ukrainians in question to American billionaires and “Mr. Koch and Mr. Soros” as political contributors.

“I don’t know why you keep bringing (up) these people,” Andres said, referring to the Ukrainians. “These people are not like any Americans. These people are oligarchs and that means they control a segment of the economy based on the governments allowing them to do that.”’

“These are not really political contributions,” he continued. “They are self-serving payments with respect to what oligarchs do.”

“That makes it even clearer to me that it doesn’t have anything to do with the allegations in this case,” Ellis responded. “It throws dirt on these people. They may deserve it. I don’t know - and I don’t care.”

Manafort prosecutors, Judge Ellis engage in 10-minute courtroom spat

Clearly, you've not looked at the MOUNTAIN of evidence. You simply don't care because Crooked Paul is one of your ilk.

if there's a mountain of evidence and this so clear to even us commoners, how come meuller is having a hard time in court with it?

if paul is guilty - take him in the same way you would anyone you don't know who faces this daily. but google "obama appointments tax evasion" and see how many tax cheats he put into public offices on his staff.

didn't see you and your "ilk" get upset about that.

Mueller is not having a bit of trouble in court. This judge just happens to be a grumpy, senile old asshole who favors the defense and should have retired ten years ago.

Thanks for rating my post as winner. Having said that and in the interest of honesty I want to say something. If the argument that a judge disallowed evidence so that means the prosecutors are imbeciles, and therefor the case should be dismissed is bullshit ( which it is). Than so is the argument that the judge favors the defense so he has to be a grumpy, senile old asshole. A judge act as a referee in these kinds of cases. I personally don't like a judge curtailing the prosecutors ability to make it's case in the interest of brevity, that doesn't mean it's necessarily wrong. I think he's ruling that the prosecutions case is sufficiently strong and the detail that they are providing unnecessary. Either way, making claims about this judge on the bases on who the law is favoring by a ruling is wrong.

Now you're just gibbering.

Nobody made the argument "that a judge disallowed evidence sot hat means the prosecutors are imbeciles and therefor the case should be dismissed is bullshit"...it is incoherent gobbledygook and proves that you have no idea what the fuck is going on.

You are the failure of the US public schools.

 

[forkup]

Mueller investigation is a crock of shit. Will result in same if charges are brought. Bunch of Keystone Cops amateur hour that can’t get over fact that Hillary lost in 2016. Donald J. Trump is doing a great job as President and you socialist turds will be taught another lesson in 2018 mid-terms. Public is sick of liberal media and campus professoriate trying to tell them how to think and what opinions they should have.
Manafort prosecutors, Judge Ellis engage in 10-minute courtroom spat

I love these kinds of post. You're arguing that a case should be thrown out, not because of the accused not being guilty. Not because of a lack of evidence. Not even because the judge is fundamentally disagreeing with the evidence. No you are claiming that when a judge challenges the way the prosecution is presenting its case in any form, charges should be dropped.

no based on what the judge said. they haven't submitted evidence of tax evasion. just political hate. so what is the case really about is the question the judge asked. It seems mueller's team can't answer that and for that reason alone, it should get tossed. It's obvious they have no evidence to support the charges.

No evidence of tax evasion? Manafort accountant who admitted role in false tax returns leaves Virginia firm You do realize the relevant tax returns were submitted as evidence right? You do realize Gates testified too right? So when you say no evidence. Do you mean no evidence except all the evidence, or something?

 

[forkup]

Please back up the assertion that the prosecution's case in the Manafort trial is "bullshit." What do you know about him and Gates and their foreign bank accounts? Are you an insider?

The point about all of this is Manafort is being prosecuted simply because he worked for Trump for a few days.
That is the only reason they broke into his home.
How many of us would stand up under such scrutiny.
The press and the liars in the Democrat party will repeatedly say that Manafort worked for Trump.
Nothing else matters.
The Clintons had to amend their last tax return because of undeclared income and were allowed to. Manafort wasn't offered that option.

More mental masterbation for the trumpets....

Manafort wilfully evaded tax.... the proof is there....

Your problem is that you know Trump is guilty and that Manafort might have proof. Why didn't vote for a guy who isn't a criminal...

Because you can't resist a guy who jerks off your bigoted views...

Now when answering this don't forget "BUT BUT HILLARY/OBAMA.........

Guilty of what exactly?
No evidence exists of any crime, yet you keep saying Trump is guilty.

He's not guilty of beating Hillary, is he?
There's evidence of that.

Conspiracy to defraud the United States seems a possible, even likely crime. So does obstruction of justice. Less likely but still possible seems the charge of witness tampering, since the President of the United States deems it appropriate to comment on an ongoing trial. Thereby unduly influencing the jury.
These are possible charges just by what is available in the public realm. I'm not taking into consideration the likelihood that Trump committed financial crimes like the ones Manafort is now on trial for in his business deals. In the end Mueller will give the conclusions to his probe and that is when we will know if and which crimes were committed. Until that time my opinion on it is just as valid/or invalid, however you want to look on it as yours. Claiming there is no evidence of crimes though is wishful thinking. At the moment Trump has to hope that Mueller actually sees him as incompetent , otherwise the only other conclusion will be that he acted the way he did on purpose thereby proving intent and by extension the existence of crimes.

 

[forkup]

No it needs to be thrown out because the charges lack merit..and the prosecution isn't trying to prove the charges, but instead are just flinging shit.

“I don’t know if they are bad or good. And I don’t care,” Ellis argued, reiterating his previous claim that the prosecution seemed to be focusing not on the actual charges but on what he considered “political contributions.”

"Ellis again compared the Ukrainians in question to American billionaires and “Mr. Koch and Mr. Soros” as political contributors.

“I don’t know why you keep bringing (up) these people,” Andres said, referring to the Ukrainians. “These people are not like any Americans. These people are oligarchs and that means they control a segment of the economy based on the governments allowing them to do that.”’

“These are not really political contributions,” he continued. “They are self-serving payments with respect to what oligarchs do.”

“That makes it even clearer to me that it doesn’t have anything to do with the allegations in this case,” Ellis responded. “It throws dirt on these people. They may deserve it. I don’t know - and I don’t care.”

Manafort prosecutors, Judge Ellis engage in 10-minute courtroom spat

Clearly, you've not looked at the MOUNTAIN of evidence. You simply don't care because Crooked Paul is one of your ilk.

if there's a mountain of evidence and this so clear to even us commoners, how come meuller is having a hard time in court with it?

if paul is guilty - take him in the same way you would anyone you don't know who faces this daily. but google "obama appointments tax evasion" and see how many tax cheats he put into public offices on his staff.

didn't see you and your "ilk" get upset about that.

Mueller is not having a bit of trouble in court. This judge just happens to be a grumpy, senile old asshole who favors the defense and should have retired ten years ago.

Thanks for rating my post as winner. Having said that and in the interest of honesty I want to say something. If the argument that a judge disallowed evidence so that means the prosecutors are imbeciles, and therefor the case should be dismissed is bullshit ( which it is). Than so is the argument that the judge favors the defense so he has to be a grumpy, senile old asshole. A judge act as a referee in these kinds of cases. I personally don't like a judge curtailing the prosecutors ability to make it's case in the interest of brevity, that doesn't mean it's necessarily wrong. I think he's ruling that the prosecutions case is sufficiently strong and the detail that they are providing unnecessary. Either way, making claims about this judge on the bases on who the law is favoring by a ruling is wrong.

Now you're just gibbering.

Nobody made the argument "that a judge disallowed evidence sot hat means the prosecutors are imbeciles and therefor the case should be dismissed is bullshit"...it is incoherent gobbledygook and proves that you have no idea what the fuck is going on.

You are the failure of the US public schools.

Read the title of the OP
Out of the first 2 posts.

Bunch of Keystone Cops amateur hour that can’t get over fact that Hillary lost in 2016.

He needs to throw the case out.

Unlike you I can both read and understand the premise of an OP. Goodnight now.

 

[mudwhistle]

Please back up the assertion that the prosecution's case in the Manafort trial is "bullshit." What do you know about him and Gates and their foreign bank accounts? Are you an insider?

The point about all of this is Manafort is being prosecuted simply because he worked for Trump for a few days.
That is the only reason they broke into his home.
How many of us would stand up under such scrutiny.
The press and the liars in the Democrat party will repeatedly say that Manafort worked for Trump.
Nothing else matters.
The Clintons had to amend their last tax return because of undeclared income and were allowed to. Manafort wasn't offered that option.

More mental masterbation for the trumpets....

Manafort wilfully evaded tax.... the proof is there....

Your problem is that you know Trump is guilty and that Manafort might have proof. Why didn't vote for a guy who isn't a criminal...

Because you can't resist a guy who jerks off your bigoted views...

Now when answering this don't forget "BUT BUT HILLARY/OBAMA.........

Guilty of what exactly?
No evidence exists of any crime, yet you keep saying Trump is guilty.

He's not guilty of beating Hillary, is he?
There's evidence of that.

Conspiracy to defraud the United States seems a possible, even likely crime. So does obstruction of justice. Less likely but still possible seems the charge of witness tampering, since the President of the United States deems it appropriate to comment on an ongoing trial. Thereby unduly influencing the jury.
These are possible charges just by what is available in the public realm. I'm not taking into consideration the likelihood that Trump committed financial crimes like the ones Manafort is now on trial for in his business deals. In the end Mueller will give the conclusions to his probe and that is when we will know if and which crimes were committed. Until that time my opinion on it is just as valid/or invalid, however you want to look on it as yours. Claiming there is no evidence of crimes though is wishful thinking. At the moment Trump has to hope that Mueller actually sees him as incompetent , otherwise the only other conclusion will be that he acted the way he did on purpose thereby proving intent and by extension the existence of crimes.

SHUT THE FORKUP!!!!

OBAMA THREATENED SCOTUS JUDGES DURING IMPORTANT CASES AND CLAIMED THAT THERE WAS NOT EVEN A SMIDGEN OF CHANCE HILLARY WOULD BE INDICTED!!

 

[jc456]

Mueller investigation is a crock of shit. Will result in same if charges are brought. Bunch of Keystone Cops amateur hour that can’t get over fact that Hillary lost in 2016. Donald J. Trump is doing a great job as President and you socialist turds will be taught another lesson in 2018 mid-terms. Public is sick of liberal media and campus professoriate trying to tell them how to think and what opinions they should have.
Manafort prosecutors, Judge Ellis engage in 10-minute courtroom spat

I love these kinds of post. You're arguing that a case should be thrown out, not because of the accused not being guilty. Not because of a lack of evidence. Not even because the judge is fundamentally disagreeing with the evidence. No you are claiming that when a judge challenges the way the prosecution is presenting its case in any form, charges should be dropped.

no based on what the judge said. they haven't submitted evidence of tax evasion. just political hate. so what is the case really about is the question the judge asked. It seems mueller's team can't answer that and for that reason alone, it should get tossed. It's obvious they have no evidence to support the charges.

No evidence of tax evasion? Manafort accountant who admitted role in false tax returns leaves Virginia firm You do realize the relevant tax returns were submitted as evidence right? You do realize Gates testified too right? So when you say no evidence. Do you mean no evidence except all the evidence, or something?

and what? why aren't they going after it. dude, you're barking at the wrong guy, go after the judge. he's the one going to throw it out. LOL. dude hilarious. the tax returns aren't the silver bullet, sorry to pop your fking cherry.

 

[forkup]

Please back up the assertion that the prosecution's case in the Manafort trial is "bullshit." What do you know about him and Gates and their foreign bank accounts? Are you an insider?

The point about all of this is Manafort is being prosecuted simply because he worked for Trump for a few days.
That is the only reason they broke into his home.
How many of us would stand up under such scrutiny.
The press and the liars in the Democrat party will repeatedly say that Manafort worked for Trump.
Nothing else matters.
The Clintons had to amend their last tax return because of undeclared income and were allowed to. Manafort wasn't offered that option.

More mental masterbation for the trumpets....

Manafort wilfully evaded tax.... the proof is there....

Your problem is that you know Trump is guilty and that Manafort might have proof. Why didn't vote for a guy who isn't a criminal...

Because you can't resist a guy who jerks off your bigoted views...

Now when answering this don't forget "BUT BUT HILLARY/OBAMA.........

Guilty of what exactly?
No evidence exists of any crime, yet you keep saying Trump is guilty.

He's not guilty of beating Hillary, is he?
There's evidence of that.

Conspiracy to defraud the United States seems a possible, even likely crime. So does obstruction of justice. Less likely but still possible seems the charge of witness tampering, since the President of the United States deems it appropriate to comment on an ongoing trial. Thereby unduly influencing the jury.
These are possible charges just by what is available in the public realm. I'm not taking into consideration the likelihood that Trump committed financial crimes like the ones Manafort is now on trial for in his business deals. In the end Mueller will give the conclusions to his probe and that is when we will know if and which crimes were committed. Until that time my opinion on it is just as valid/or invalid, however you want to look on it as yours. Claiming there is no evidence of crimes though is wishful thinking. At the moment Trump has to hope that Mueller actually sees him as incompetent , otherwise the only other conclusion will be that he acted the way he did on purpose thereby proving intent and by extension the existence of crimes.

STFU!!!!

OBAMA THREATENED SCOTUS JUDGES DURING IMPORTANT CASES AND CLAIMED THAT THERE WAS NOT EVEN A SMIDGEN OF CHANCE HILLARY WOULD BE INDICTED!!

STFU? All caps even? Wow that seems scary. Oh and don't look but you are doing exactly what Cowboyted said you would. BUT BUT OBAMA/HILARY. Anyways Mudwhistle I answered your premise on the existence of evidence of crimes, I can't help it that such evidence does exist. Take it up with Trump and Don Jr who are friendly enough to give a public record on their actions.

 

[jc456]

The point about all of this is Manafort is being prosecuted simply because he worked for Trump for a few days.
That is the only reason they broke into his home.
How many of us would stand up under such scrutiny.
The press and the liars in the Democrat party will repeatedly say that Manafort worked for Trump.
Nothing else matters.
The Clintons had to amend their last tax return because of undeclared income and were allowed to. Manafort wasn't offered that option.

More mental masterbation for the trumpets....

Manafort wilfully evaded tax.... the proof is there....

Your problem is that you know Trump is guilty and that Manafort might have proof. Why didn't vote for a guy who isn't a criminal...

Because you can't resist a guy who jerks off your bigoted views...

Now when answering this don't forget "BUT BUT HILLARY/OBAMA.........

Guilty of what exactly?
No evidence exists of any crime, yet you keep saying Trump is guilty.

He's not guilty of beating Hillary, is he?
There's evidence of that.

Conspiracy to defraud the United States seems a possible, even likely crime. So does obstruction of justice. Less likely but still possible seems the charge of witness tampering, since the President of the United States deems it appropriate to comment on an ongoing trial. Thereby unduly influencing the jury.
These are possible charges just by what is available in the public realm. I'm not taking into consideration the likelihood that Trump committed financial crimes like the ones Manafort is now on trial for in his business deals. In the end Mueller will give the conclusions to his probe and that is when we will know if and which crimes were committed. Until that time my opinion on it is just as valid/or invalid, however you want to look on it as yours. Claiming there is no evidence of crimes though is wishful thinking. At the moment Trump has to hope that Mueller actually sees him as incompetent , otherwise the only other conclusion will be that he acted the way he did on purpose thereby proving intent and by extension the existence of crimes.

STFU!!!!

OBAMA THREATENED SCOTUS JUDGES DURING IMPORTANT CASES AND CLAIMED THAT THERE WAS NOT EVEN A SMIDGEN OF CHANCE HILLARY WOULD BE INDICTED!!

STFU? All caps even? Wow that seems scary. Oh and don't look but you are doing exactly what Cowboyted said you would. BUT BUT OBAMA/HILARY. Anyways Mudwhistle I answered your premise on the existence of evidence of crimes, I can't help it that such evidence does exist. Take it up with Trump and Don Jr who are friendly enough to give a public record on their actions.

what evidence of crime? what crime? I still don't know what you all are referring to. why can't you tell us? are you chicken.

 

[forkup]

Mueller investigation is a crock of shit. Will result in same if charges are brought. Bunch of Keystone Cops amateur hour that can’t get over fact that Hillary lost in 2016. Donald J. Trump is doing a great job as President and you socialist turds will be taught another lesson in 2018 mid-terms. Public is sick of liberal media and campus professoriate trying to tell them how to think and what opinions they should have.
Manafort prosecutors, Judge Ellis engage in 10-minute courtroom spat

I love these kinds of post. You're arguing that a case should be thrown out, not because of the accused not being guilty. Not because of a lack of evidence. Not even because the judge is fundamentally disagreeing with the evidence. No you are claiming that when a judge challenges the way the prosecution is presenting its case in any form, charges should be dropped.

no based on what the judge said. they haven't submitted evidence of tax evasion. just political hate. so what is the case really about is the question the judge asked. It seems mueller's team can't answer that and for that reason alone, it should get tossed. It's obvious they have no evidence to support the charges.

No evidence of tax evasion? Manafort accountant who admitted role in false tax returns leaves Virginia firm You do realize the relevant tax returns were submitted as evidence right? You do realize Gates testified too right? So when you say no evidence. Do you mean no evidence except all the evidence, or something?

and what? why aren't they going after it. dude, you're barking at the wrong guy, go after the judge. he's the one going to throw it out. LOL. dude hilarious. the tax returns aren't the silver bullet, sorry to pop your fking cherry.

You do realize a trial is the way the court "goes after it" right? Throw it out on what bases by the way? It being to indisputable?

 

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Mueller investigation is a crock of shit. Will result in same if charges are brought. Bunch of Keystone Cops amateur hour that can’t get over fact that Hillary lost in 2016. Donald J. Trump is doing a great job as President and you socialist turds will be taught another lesson in 2018 mid-terms. Public is sick of liberal media and campus professoriate trying to tell them how to think and what opinions they should have.
Manafort prosecutors, Judge Ellis engage in 10-minute courtroom spat

I love these kinds of post. You're arguing that a case should be thrown out, not because of the accused not being guilty. Not because of a lack of evidence. Not even because the judge is fundamentally disagreeing with the evidence. No you are claiming that when a judge challenges the way the prosecution is presenting its case in any form, charges should be dropped.

no based on what the judge said. they haven't submitted evidence of tax evasion. just political hate. so what is the case really about is the question the judge asked. It seems mueller's team can't answer that and for that reason alone, it should get tossed. It's obvious they have no evidence to support the charges.

No evidence of tax evasion? Manafort accountant who admitted role in false tax returns leaves Virginia firm You do realize the relevant tax returns were submitted as evidence right? You do realize Gates testified too right? So when you say no evidence. Do you mean no evidence except all the evidence, or something?

It's very confusing to people who do not understand the concept of evidence. Denial just ain't a river in Egypt.

No prosecutor will move in front of a grand jury, and then take a case to trial without having definite evidence against the defendant, despite the joke that a grand jury will indict a ham sandwich. I used to be a certified paralegal. I know what the reality is to go through mountains of documents, and now e-mails, to find what is necessary to take a case to trial. Deposition testimony has to be gone through line by line. It seems that there is a lot against Manafort, not only in the docs, but with the testimonies of Gates and the accountant.