Judge Sullivan Scrambles For A Lifeline To Bail HIMSELF Out Of Dropped Flynn Case

[colfax_m]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. When it goes your way, they're doing a great job. When it doesn't go your way, they're not playing fair. It couldn't possibly be anything else.

All I know is that Barr has been finding ways of getting involved in cases of Trump associates and there have been favorable outcomes for those associates.

Was there anything similar to that in the past with Obama?

You mean with his wing man?

Sure. What did his “wingman” do that is remotely similar to what Barr has done?

Describe what you believe Barr has done.

I don’t know for sure. I know he has installed people in cases of Trump’s associates and suddenly those associates have found themselves getting beneficial outcomes.

Stone’s sentencing recommendations were lessened.
Flynn’s charges were dropped.

That has a lot of smoke for political manipulation in what should be apolitical justice. Some of this has been confirmed by recent congressional testimony

On the surface, it appears Barr is telling prosecutors to “go easy” on people associated with Trump.

You wanna talk about smoke....how about the IRS admittedly going after thousands of right wing political groups for political reasons and completely shutting down their donation base which they rely on....and no one getting in trouble for that. It’s the single most egregious case of government abuse of power in our lifetime with very massive consequences and was done so during a presidential election.

You said “for political reasons”. If that could be proven, then you’d have a case but the problem is they didn’t really find evidence that lead anyone to believe it was “for political reasons”.

It was indeed investigated by Congress and the FBI.

That's just factually false.

Whatever you say kiddo. I’d ask you to back it up but we both know you have no intention to do so.

You aren't aware that people were fired?
That the IRS settled lawsuits about that exact matter?

Weird how little unfortunately actually Pentwater your bubble .

Spoiler alert - water is wet

You aren’t aware that standards for firing are dramatically different than standards for criminal prosecution?
That the IRS settled a civil case doesn’t mean that there was criminal liability? That the standards for judgement in a civil case aren’t the same for criminal?

You aren’t aware that the Trump DoJ declined to bring any charges against anyone but somehow it’s the Obama DoJ that’s so corrupt because they declined to bring charges?

There’s some holes in your story.

 

[colfax_m]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. When it goes your way, they're doing a great job. When it doesn't go your way, they're not playing fair. It couldn't possibly be anything else.

All I know is that Barr has been finding ways of getting involved in cases of Trump associates and there have been favorable outcomes for those associates.

Was there anything similar to that in the past with Obama?

You mean with his wing man?

Sure. What did his “wingman” do that is remotely similar to what Barr has done?

Describe what you believe Barr has done.

I don’t know for sure. I know he has installed people in cases of Trump’s associates and suddenly those associates have found themselves getting beneficial outcomes.

Stone’s sentencing recommendations were lessened.
Flynn’s charges were dropped.

That has a lot of smoke for political manipulation in what should be apolitical justice. Some of this has been confirmed by recent congressional testimony

On the surface, it appears Barr is telling prosecutors to “go easy” on people associated with Trump.

You wanna talk about smoke....how about the IRS admittedly going after thousands of right wing political groups for political reasons and completely shutting down their donation base which they rely on....and no one getting in trouble for that. It’s the single most egregious case of government abuse of power in our lifetime with very massive consequences and was done so during a presidential election.

You said “for political reasons”. If that could be proven, then you’d have a case but the problem is they didn’t really find evidence that lead anyone to believe it was “for political reasons”.

It was indeed investigated by Congress and the FBI.

Um, Lerner had to apologize for targeting conservative groups, Dummy.

So what? Did she say she targeted them because she hates conservatives?

She apologized for targeting conservative groups. That makes you a lying sack.......again.

Show me the statement.

 

[WEATHER53]

The Flynn persecution is yet another sad and sordid Demoncrap hoax

 

[task0778]

The Flynn persecution is yet another sad and sordid Demoncrap hoax

The really sad thing is, so many people believe the Demoncrap hoax stuff isn't a hoax. they think it's straight-up, honest to God truth. Which leads me to believe the divisiveness in theis country is not going away anytime soon.

 

[JustAGuy1]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. When it goes your way, they're doing a great job. When it doesn't go your way, they're not playing fair. It couldn't possibly be anything else.

All I know is that Barr has been finding ways of getting involved in cases of Trump associates and there have been favorable outcomes for those associates.

Was there anything similar to that in the past with Obama?

You mean with his wing man?

Sure. What did his “wingman” do that is remotely similar to what Barr has done?

Describe what you believe Barr has done.

I don’t know for sure. I know he has installed people in cases of Trump’s associates and suddenly those associates have found themselves getting beneficial outcomes.

Stone’s sentencing recommendations were lessened.
Flynn’s charges were dropped.

That has a lot of smoke for political manipulation in what should be apolitical justice. Some of this has been confirmed by recent congressional testimony

On the surface, it appears Barr is telling prosecutors to “go easy” on people associated with Trump.

You wanna talk about smoke....how about the IRS admittedly going after thousands of right wing political groups for political reasons and completely shutting down their donation base which they rely on....and no one getting in trouble for that. It’s the single most egregious case of government abuse of power in our lifetime with very massive consequences and was done so during a presidential election.

You said “for political reasons”. If that could be proven, then you’d have a case but the problem is they didn’t really find evidence that lead anyone to believe it was “for political reasons”.

It was indeed investigated by Congress and the FBI.

Um, Lerner had to apologize for targeting conservative groups, Dummy.

So what? Did she say she targeted them because she hates conservatives?

She apologized for targeting conservative groups. That makes you a lying sack.......again.

Show me the statement.

Yawn. Do you have any idea as to how much you don't have a clue about?

Justice Department settles with conservative groups over IRS scrutiny

The IRS “expresses its sincere apology,” it said.

Justice Department settles with conservative groups over IRS scrutiny

The U.S. Justice Department has reached a settlement with dozens of conservative groups that claimed the Internal Revenue Service unfairly scrutinized them based on their political leanings when they sought a tax-exempt status, court documents showed.

www.reuters.com

 

[colfax_m]

The Flynn persecution is yet another sad and sordid Demoncrap hoax

Good lord. “Persecution” is FBI agents sitting down and having a friendly conversation.

 

[colfax_m]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. When it goes your way, they're doing a great job. When it doesn't go your way, they're not playing fair. It couldn't possibly be anything else.

All I know is that Barr has been finding ways of getting involved in cases of Trump associates and there have been favorable outcomes for those associates.

Was there anything similar to that in the past with Obama?

You mean with his wing man?

Sure. What did his “wingman” do that is remotely similar to what Barr has done?

Describe what you believe Barr has done.

I don’t know for sure. I know he has installed people in cases of Trump’s associates and suddenly those associates have found themselves getting beneficial outcomes.

Stone’s sentencing recommendations were lessened.
Flynn’s charges were dropped.

That has a lot of smoke for political manipulation in what should be apolitical justice. Some of this has been confirmed by recent congressional testimony

On the surface, it appears Barr is telling prosecutors to “go easy” on people associated with Trump.

You wanna talk about smoke....how about the IRS admittedly going after thousands of right wing political groups for political reasons and completely shutting down their donation base which they rely on....and no one getting in trouble for that. It’s the single most egregious case of government abuse of power in our lifetime with very massive consequences and was done so during a presidential election.

You said “for political reasons”. If that could be proven, then you’d have a case but the problem is they didn’t really find evidence that lead anyone to believe it was “for political reasons”.

It was indeed investigated by Congress and the FBI.

Um, Lerner had to apologize for targeting conservative groups, Dummy.

So what? Did she say she targeted them because she hates conservatives?

She apologized for targeting conservative groups. That makes you a lying sack.......again.

Show me the statement.

Yawn. Do you have any idea as to how much you don't have a clue about?

Justice Department settles with conservative groups over IRS scrutiny

The IRS “expresses its sincere apology,” it said.

Justice Department settles with conservative groups over IRS scrutiny

The U.S. Justice Department has reached a settlement with dozens of conservative groups that claimed the Internal Revenue Service unfairly scrutinized them based on their political leanings when they sought a tax-exempt status, court documents showed.

www.reuters.com

Thanks Jeff Sessions. Why didn’t he press charges?

 

[iceberg]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. When it goes your way, they're doing a great job. When it doesn't go your way, they're not playing fair. It couldn't possibly be anything else.

All I know is that Barr has been finding ways of getting involved in cases of Trump associates and there have been favorable outcomes for those associates.

Was there anything similar to that in the past with Obama?

You mean with his wing man?

Sure. What did his “wingman” do that is remotely similar to what Barr has done?

Describe what you believe Barr has done.

I don’t know for sure. I know he has installed people in cases of Trump’s associates and suddenly those associates have found themselves getting beneficial outcomes.

Stone’s sentencing recommendations were lessened.
Flynn’s charges were dropped.

That has a lot of smoke for political manipulation in what should be apolitical justice. Some of this has been confirmed by recent congressional testimony

On the surface, it appears Barr is telling prosecutors to “go easy” on people associated with Trump.

Gee. Lynch met Bill on a private tarmac and suddenly Hillary was free.

Fuck that one sided shit.

 

[iceberg]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. When it goes your way, they're doing a great job. When it doesn't go your way, they're not playing fair. It couldn't possibly be anything else.

All I know is that Barr has been finding ways of getting involved in cases of Trump associates and there have been favorable outcomes for those associates.

Was there anything similar to that in the past with Obama?

You mean with his wing man?

Sure. What did his “wingman” do that is remotely similar to what Barr has done?

Describe what you believe Barr has done.

I don’t know for sure. I know he has installed people in cases of Trump’s associates and suddenly those associates have found themselves getting beneficial outcomes.

Stone’s sentencing recommendations were lessened.
Flynn’s charges were dropped.

That has a lot of smoke for political manipulation in what should be apolitical justice. Some of this has been confirmed by recent congressional testimony

On the surface, it appears Barr is telling prosecutors to “go easy” on people associated with Trump.

You wanna talk about smoke....how about the IRS admittedly going after thousands of right wing political groups for political reasons and completely shutting down their donation base which they rely on....and no one getting in trouble for that. It’s the single most egregious case of government abuse of power in our lifetime with very massive consequences and was done so during a presidential election.

You said “for political reasons”. If that could be proven, then you’d have a case but the problem is they didn’t really find evidence that lead anyone to believe it was “for political reasons”.

It was indeed investigated by Congress and the FBI.

The IRS admitted it. The IRS said they threw red tape because of their political affiliations. They tried to blame it on a “few bad actors in Cleveland” but that clearly wasn’t the case. As far as the investigations the hard drives “suddenly” had a “malfunction” and they decided the best course of action was to shred them. Also, guess who was in charge of the DOJ at the time?

I don’t think the IRS admitted what you think they did. This seems like splitting hairs but is monumentally important. They’d need to prove intent and that just didn’t come together.

Neither did Russia.
Or an impeqchment
Or kavanaugh

 

[colfax_m]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. When it goes your way, they're doing a great job. When it doesn't go your way, they're not playing fair. It couldn't possibly be anything else.

All I know is that Barr has been finding ways of getting involved in cases of Trump associates and there have been favorable outcomes for those associates.

Was there anything similar to that in the past with Obama?

You mean with his wing man?

Sure. What did his “wingman” do that is remotely similar to what Barr has done?

Describe what you believe Barr has done.

I don’t know for sure. I know he has installed people in cases of Trump’s associates and suddenly those associates have found themselves getting beneficial outcomes.

Stone’s sentencing recommendations were lessened.
Flynn’s charges were dropped.

That has a lot of smoke for political manipulation in what should be apolitical justice. Some of this has been confirmed by recent congressional testimony

On the surface, it appears Barr is telling prosecutors to “go easy” on people associated with Trump.

You wanna talk about smoke....how about the IRS admittedly going after thousands of right wing political groups for political reasons and completely shutting down their donation base which they rely on....and no one getting in trouble for that. It’s the single most egregious case of government abuse of power in our lifetime with very massive consequences and was done so during a presidential election.

You said “for political reasons”. If that could be proven, then you’d have a case but the problem is they didn’t really find evidence that lead anyone to believe it was “for political reasons”.

It was indeed investigated by Congress and the FBI.

The IRS admitted it. The IRS said they threw red tape because of their political affiliations. They tried to blame it on a “few bad actors in Cleveland” but that clearly wasn’t the case. As far as the investigations the hard drives “suddenly” had a “malfunction” and they decided the best course of action was to shred them. Also, guess who was in charge of the DOJ at the time?

I don’t think the IRS admitted what you think they did. This seems like splitting hairs but is monumentally important. They’d need to prove intent and that just didn’t come together.

Neither did Russia.
Or an impeqchment
Or kavanaugh

What?

I think there was more than sufficient evidence to demonstrate intent in impeachment. I don’t know exactly what you mean by “Russia” but there was evidence to demonstrate the Russian government intent to benefit Trump.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

It was indeed investigated by Congress and the FBI.

Oh, well in that case.....



What else can we expect? The KKK investigating hate crimes and lynchings? That should be conducted with the utmost integrity, right?

Is that the best you can do? Comparing the DoJ to the KKK?

I don’t really think that’s a serious reply.

Would the Fox-guarding-hen-house analogy work better for you?

The inmates running the assylum?

Crooks guarding the bank vault?

Which one would you prefer I use to illustrate the VERY CLEAR POINT that you are disingenuously trying to ignore because you don't like the KKK being in the same analogous position as the DOJ.

This is why the left can't meme.

 

[colfax_m]

Gee. Lynch met Bill on a private tarmac and suddenly Hillary was free.

Okay. So? No one claimed Lynch did anything to affect the outcome of the investigation.

You’re going to need a little more than that one liner.

 

[JustAGuy1]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. When it goes your way, they're doing a great job. When it doesn't go your way, they're not playing fair. It couldn't possibly be anything else.

All I know is that Barr has been finding ways of getting involved in cases of Trump associates and there have been favorable outcomes for those associates.

Was there anything similar to that in the past with Obama?

You mean with his wing man?

Sure. What did his “wingman” do that is remotely similar to what Barr has done?

Describe what you believe Barr has done.

I don’t know for sure. I know he has installed people in cases of Trump’s associates and suddenly those associates have found themselves getting beneficial outcomes.

Stone’s sentencing recommendations were lessened.
Flynn’s charges were dropped.

That has a lot of smoke for political manipulation in what should be apolitical justice. Some of this has been confirmed by recent congressional testimony

On the surface, it appears Barr is telling prosecutors to “go easy” on people associated with Trump.

You wanna talk about smoke....how about the IRS admittedly going after thousands of right wing political groups for political reasons and completely shutting down their donation base which they rely on....and no one getting in trouble for that. It’s the single most egregious case of government abuse of power in our lifetime with very massive consequences and was done so during a presidential election.

You said “for political reasons”. If that could be proven, then you’d have a case but the problem is they didn’t really find evidence that lead anyone to believe it was “for political reasons”.

It was indeed investigated by Congress and the FBI.

Um, Lerner had to apologize for targeting conservative groups, Dummy.

So what? Did she say she targeted them because she hates conservatives?

She apologized for targeting conservative groups. That makes you a lying sack.......again.

Show me the statement.

Yawn. Do you have any idea as to how much you don't have a clue about?

Justice Department settles with conservative groups over IRS scrutiny

The IRS “expresses its sincere apology,” it said.

Justice Department settles with conservative groups over IRS scrutiny

The U.S. Justice Department has reached a settlement with dozens of conservative groups that claimed the Internal Revenue Service unfairly scrutinized them based on their political leanings when they sought a tax-exempt status, court documents showed.

www.reuters.com

Thanks Jeff Sessions. Why didn’t he press charges?

Deflect much? It will never work with me. The IRS "apologized", you said they didn't.

 

[colfax_m]

S

It was indeed investigated by Congress and the FBI.

Oh, well in that case.....



What else can we expect? The KKK investigating hate crimes and lynchings? That should be conducted with the utmost integrity, right?

Is that the best you can do? Comparing the DoJ to the KKK?

I don’t really think that’s a serious reply.

Would the Fox-guarding-hen-house analogy work better for you?

The inmates running the assylum?

Crooks guarding the bank vault?

Which one would you prefer I use to illustrate the VERY CLEAR POINT that you are disingenuously trying to ignore because you don't like the KKK being in the same analogous position as the DOJ.

This is why the left can't meme.

Drop the dumb memes and try just saying what you mean. Who are you accusing of being corrupt here?

I bet you don’t even know.

 

[colfax_m]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. When it goes your way, they're doing a great job. When it doesn't go your way, they're not playing fair. It couldn't possibly be anything else.

All I know is that Barr has been finding ways of getting involved in cases of Trump associates and there have been favorable outcomes for those associates.

Was there anything similar to that in the past with Obama?

You mean with his wing man?

Sure. What did his “wingman” do that is remotely similar to what Barr has done?

Describe what you believe Barr has done.

I don’t know for sure. I know he has installed people in cases of Trump’s associates and suddenly those associates have found themselves getting beneficial outcomes.

Stone’s sentencing recommendations were lessened.
Flynn’s charges were dropped.

That has a lot of smoke for political manipulation in what should be apolitical justice. Some of this has been confirmed by recent congressional testimony

On the surface, it appears Barr is telling prosecutors to “go easy” on people associated with Trump.

You wanna talk about smoke....how about the IRS admittedly going after thousands of right wing political groups for political reasons and completely shutting down their donation base which they rely on....and no one getting in trouble for that. It’s the single most egregious case of government abuse of power in our lifetime with very massive consequences and was done so during a presidential election.

You said “for political reasons”. If that could be proven, then you’d have a case but the problem is they didn’t really find evidence that lead anyone to believe it was “for political reasons”.

It was indeed investigated by Congress and the FBI.

Um, Lerner had to apologize for targeting conservative groups, Dummy.

So what? Did she say she targeted them because she hates conservatives?

She apologized for targeting conservative groups. That makes you a lying sack.......again.

Show me the statement.

Yawn. Do you have any idea as to how much you don't have a clue about?

Justice Department settles with conservative groups over IRS scrutiny

The IRS “expresses its sincere apology,” it said.

Justice Department settles with conservative groups over IRS scrutiny

The U.S. Justice Department has reached a settlement with dozens of conservative groups that claimed the Internal Revenue Service unfairly scrutinized them based on their political leanings when they sought a tax-exempt status, court documents showed.

www.reuters.com

Thanks Jeff Sessions. Why didn’t he press charges?

Deflect much? It will never work with me. The IRS "apologized", you said they didn't.

I never said the IRS didn’t apologize. But that doesn’t mean anyone did anything criminal.

The central allegation here is that Obama was using the IRS to help his re-election which is so far from being proven it’s laughable.

 

[JustAGuy1]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. When it goes your way, they're doing a great job. When it doesn't go your way, they're not playing fair. It couldn't possibly be anything else.

All I know is that Barr has been finding ways of getting involved in cases of Trump associates and there have been favorable outcomes for those associates.

Was there anything similar to that in the past with Obama?

You mean with his wing man?

Sure. What did his “wingman” do that is remotely similar to what Barr has done?

Describe what you believe Barr has done.

I don’t know for sure. I know he has installed people in cases of Trump’s associates and suddenly those associates have found themselves getting beneficial outcomes.

Stone’s sentencing recommendations were lessened.
Flynn’s charges were dropped.

That has a lot of smoke for political manipulation in what should be apolitical justice. Some of this has been confirmed by recent congressional testimony

On the surface, it appears Barr is telling prosecutors to “go easy” on people associated with Trump.

You wanna talk about smoke....how about the IRS admittedly going after thousands of right wing political groups for political reasons and completely shutting down their donation base which they rely on....and no one getting in trouble for that. It’s the single most egregious case of government abuse of power in our lifetime with very massive consequences and was done so during a presidential election.

You said “for political reasons”. If that could be proven, then you’d have a case but the problem is they didn’t really find evidence that lead anyone to believe it was “for political reasons”.

It was indeed investigated by Congress and the FBI.

Um, Lerner had to apologize for targeting conservative groups, Dummy.

So what? Did she say she targeted them because she hates conservatives?

She apologized for targeting conservative groups. That makes you a lying sack.......again.

Show me the statement.

Semantics and splitting hairs. You'll have to do better than this.

 

[JustAGuy1]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. When it goes your way, they're doing a great job. When it doesn't go your way, they're not playing fair. It couldn't possibly be anything else.

All I know is that Barr has been finding ways of getting involved in cases of Trump associates and there have been favorable outcomes for those associates.

Was there anything similar to that in the past with Obama?

You mean with his wing man?

Sure. What did his “wingman” do that is remotely similar to what Barr has done?

Describe what you believe Barr has done.

I don’t know for sure. I know he has installed people in cases of Trump’s associates and suddenly those associates have found themselves getting beneficial outcomes.

Stone’s sentencing recommendations were lessened.
Flynn’s charges were dropped.

That has a lot of smoke for political manipulation in what should be apolitical justice. Some of this has been confirmed by recent congressional testimony

On the surface, it appears Barr is telling prosecutors to “go easy” on people associated with Trump.

You wanna talk about smoke....how about the IRS admittedly going after thousands of right wing political groups for political reasons and completely shutting down their donation base which they rely on....and no one getting in trouble for that. It’s the single most egregious case of government abuse of power in our lifetime with very massive consequences and was done so during a presidential election.

You said “for political reasons”. If that could be proven, then you’d have a case but the problem is they didn’t really find evidence that lead anyone to believe it was “for political reasons”.

It was indeed investigated by Congress and the FBI.

Um, Lerner had to apologize for targeting conservative groups, Dummy.

So what? Did she say she targeted them because she hates conservatives?

She apologized for targeting conservative groups. That makes you a lying sack.......again.

Show me the statement.

Yawn. Do you have any idea as to how much you don't have a clue about?

Justice Department settles with conservative groups over IRS scrutiny

The IRS “expresses its sincere apology,” it said.

Justice Department settles with conservative groups over IRS scrutiny

The U.S. Justice Department has reached a settlement with dozens of conservative groups that claimed the Internal Revenue Service unfairly scrutinized them based on their political leanings when they sought a tax-exempt status, court documents showed.

www.reuters.com

Thanks Jeff Sessions. Why didn’t he press charges?

Deflect much? It will never work with me. The IRS "apologized", you said they didn't.

I never said the IRS didn’t apologize. But that doesn’t mean anyone did anything criminal.

The central allegation here is that Obama was using the IRS to help his re-election which is so far from being proven it’s laughable.

Splitting hairs again It also doesn't mean he didn't use it. See how that works?

 

[iceberg]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. When it goes your way, they're doing a great job. When it doesn't go your way, they're not playing fair. It couldn't possibly be anything else.

All I know is that Barr has been finding ways of getting involved in cases of Trump associates and there have been favorable outcomes for those associates.

Was there anything similar to that in the past with Obama?

You mean with his wing man?

Sure. What did his “wingman” do that is remotely similar to what Barr has done?

Describe what you believe Barr has done.

I don’t know for sure. I know he has installed people in cases of Trump’s associates and suddenly those associates have found themselves getting beneficial outcomes.

Stone’s sentencing recommendations were lessened.
Flynn’s charges were dropped.

That has a lot of smoke for political manipulation in what should be apolitical justice. Some of this has been confirmed by recent congressional testimony

On the surface, it appears Barr is telling prosecutors to “go easy” on people associated with Trump.

You wanna talk about smoke....how about the IRS admittedly going after thousands of right wing political groups for political reasons and completely shutting down their donation base which they rely on....and no one getting in trouble for that. It’s the single most egregious case of government abuse of power in our lifetime with very massive consequences and was done so during a presidential election.

You said “for political reasons”. If that could be proven, then you’d have a case but the problem is they didn’t really find evidence that lead anyone to believe it was “for political reasons”.

It was indeed investigated by Congress and the FBI.

Um, Lerner had to apologize for targeting conservative groups, Dummy.

So what? Did she say she targeted them because she hates conservatives?

She apologized for targeting conservative groups. That makes you a lying sack.......again.

Show me the statement.

Yawn. Do you have any idea as to how much you don't have a clue about?

Justice Department settles with conservative groups over IRS scrutiny

The IRS “expresses its sincere apology,” it said.

Justice Department settles with conservative groups over IRS scrutiny

The U.S. Justice Department has reached a settlement with dozens of conservative groups that claimed the Internal Revenue Service unfairly scrutinized them based on their political leanings when they sought a tax-exempt status, court documents showed.

www.reuters.com

Thanks Jeff Sessions. Why didn’t he press charges?

Deflect much? It will never work with me. The IRS "apologized", you said they didn't.

I never said the IRS didn’t apologize. But that doesn’t mean anyone did anything criminal.

The central allegation here is that Obama was using the IRS to help his re-election which is so far from being proven it’s laughable.

As is russia
Impeachments
Kavanaugh

 

[colfax_m]

This case needs a new look with a new judge.....

It needs to go back to a real prosecutor, not Barr’s political hack.

The real prosecutor who lied multiple times saying that he turned everything of concern over to the defense? Even if you INCORRECTLY think the evidence turned over is not exculpatory, it certainly went against Sullivan’s standing order to not turn over anything of relevance at all (meaning even if it makes the defendant look bad, or is considered inconsequential). And it’s impossible to argue that any of that was irrelevant. Van Gack fucked up big. Should receive a bar hearing, even though he “protested” and took his ball home with him. The only real protest would’ve been to stay on and explain why the evidence he didn’t turn over was neither exculpatory nor relevant. The latter being impossible, the former being outlandish.

then we also need a REAL PROCECUTOR to go after hillary, obama, brennan and so many others. funny at the time they said BUT THIS IS THE GOV YOU MUST TRUST.

now suddenly the gov is a hack.

and they wonder why they have credibility issues.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Lack of “real prosecutors”.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. When it goes your way, they're doing a great job. When it doesn't go your way, they're not playing fair. It couldn't possibly be anything else.

All I know is that Barr has been finding ways of getting involved in cases of Trump associates and there have been favorable outcomes for those associates.

Was there anything similar to that in the past with Obama?

You mean with his wing man?

Sure. What did his “wingman” do that is remotely similar to what Barr has done?

Describe what you believe Barr has done.

I don’t know for sure. I know he has installed people in cases of Trump’s associates and suddenly those associates have found themselves getting beneficial outcomes.

Stone’s sentencing recommendations were lessened.
Flynn’s charges were dropped.

That has a lot of smoke for political manipulation in what should be apolitical justice. Some of this has been confirmed by recent congressional testimony

On the surface, it appears Barr is telling prosecutors to “go easy” on people associated with Trump.

You wanna talk about smoke....how about the IRS admittedly going after thousands of right wing political groups for political reasons and completely shutting down their donation base which they rely on....and no one getting in trouble for that. It’s the single most egregious case of government abuse of power in our lifetime with very massive consequences and was done so during a presidential election.

You said “for political reasons”. If that could be proven, then you’d have a case but the problem is they didn’t really find evidence that lead anyone to believe it was “for political reasons”.

It was indeed investigated by Congress and the FBI.

Um, Lerner had to apologize for targeting conservative groups, Dummy.

So what? Did she say she targeted them because she hates conservatives?

She apologized for targeting conservative groups. That makes you a lying sack.......again.

Show me the statement.

Semantics and splitting hairs. You'll have to do better than this.

I can’t help you made assumptions. Just drop it and we can move on.

My point was to analyze exactly what the statement did and didn’t say. I just want to be sure we are talking about the same statement.

 

[colfax_m]

As is russia
Impeachments
Kavanaugh

Russia what? I’m going to need you to use a few more words and be a bit more descriptive to be able to have a conversation.

Impeachment was well supported. For example, we know for a fact that Trump himself directed the aid to be upheld. How close can you factually say Obama got to the IRS scandal?