Judging A Presidency

[PoliticalChic]

I believe Barack Obama will be remembered as the President who failed to protect America from a Russian nuclear attack. I don't believe America will be wiped out but I do believe we will be hit so hard we won't be able to respond to an attack on Israel when that time comes. The Liberal Progressives are the ones who have made America vulnerable enough for this to become possible.

If America were to be hit by Russian nukes on all 4 corners tomorrow - the American people would blame Obama and those who put him in office.

Then the pit the liberal progressives have dug for the GOP would be the one they fall into instead. I wouldn't want to be a liberal progressive in that day. Not in a million years. - Jeri

Russian nuclear attack???? Political Chic brings out the crazy and stupid ones from the right.

Well...you're here....

You're time out of the 'nervous hospital'?

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

I believe Barack Obama will be remembered as the President who failed to protect America from a Russian nuclear attack. I don't believe America will be wiped out but I do believe we will be hit so hard we won't be able to respond to an attack on Israel when that time comes. The Liberal Progressives are the ones who have made America vulnerable enough for this to become possible.

If America were to be hit by Russian nukes on all 4 corners tomorrow - the American people would blame Obama and those who put him in office.

Then the pit the liberal progressives have dug for the GOP would be the one they fall into instead. I wouldn't want to be a liberal progressive in that day. Not in a million years. - Jeri

Russian nuclear attack???? Political Chic brings out the crazy and stupid ones from the right.

I find it neither crazy nor stupid to be concerned about the Russians seizing an opportunity to strike America while Obama is in office. It is a perfect opportunity and I do not believe they will allow it to pass by.

It is noteworthy that you mock the idea that Obama has made America vulnerable to a nuclear strike by Russians. That you don't believe it is possible. I hope Americans remember the party that told them the cold war was over and the Russians are our friends. I believe we will.

 

[Ava]

I believe Barack Obama will be remembered as the President who failed to protect America from a Russian nuclear attack. I don't believe America will be wiped out but I do believe we will be hit so hard we won't be able to respond to an attack on Israel when that time comes. The Liberal Progressives are the ones who have made America vulnerable enough for this to become possible.

If America were to be hit by Russian nukes on all 4 corners tomorrow - the American people would blame Obama and those who put him in office.

Then the pit the liberal progressives have dug for the GOP would be the one they fall into instead. I wouldn't want to be a liberal progressive in that day. Not in a million years. - Jeri

I think a civil war is more likely to happen in America. I would love to be wrong.

 

[Redfish]

I believe Barack Obama will be remembered as the President who failed to protect America from a Russian nuclear attack. I don't believe America will be wiped out but I do believe we will be hit so hard we won't be able to respond to an attack on Israel when that time comes. The Liberal Progressives are the ones who have made America vulnerable enough for this to become possible.

If America were to be hit by Russian nukes on all 4 corners tomorrow - the American people would blame Obama and those who put him in office.

Then the pit the liberal progressives have dug for the GOP would be the one they fall into instead. I wouldn't want to be a liberal progressive in that day. Not in a million years. - Jeri

I think a civil war is more likely to happen in America. I would love to be wrong.

I agree. the country is more divided now than ever in history. a civil war is possible. the only question is which side would the military take. I think they would side with the conservatives, you?

 

[Spoonman]

You are correct about liberals making us vulnerable and weak.

Yeah. FDR proved that conclusively, didn't he? And, George W. Bush proved it the other way, right?

FDR did very little for the Army either with its size or weapons and during the 1930s, his defense budgets were cut to the bone. To quote George Marshall's words to FDR in May 1940: "If you don't do something...and do it right away, I don't know what is going to happen to this country". FDR had underestimated the Japanese and the Pearl Harbor attack devastated the American Navy and exposed the president's incompetence.
From "FDR Goes To War," by Folsom and Folsom

You should exhibit more care in claiming that FDR was both liberal and protective of America. Those might be mutually exclusive categories....Due to cuts in military spending through the 30’s as a percentage of the federal budget, the United States was woefully unprepared for war. The US was 17th in the world in military strength, and this ultimately let us into a two-ocean war.

Well researched with information taken from such sources as the Congressional Record, prominent newspapers like the New York Times and scholarly historical works of that period. The book also does not trash FDR in every aspect of his administration as the Folsoms do give him credit for readying America for the conflict after Pearl Harbor by suspending his New Deal mentality for the duration of the war and giving private business free reign to pursue profits and maximizing output.

very true. the usa was very ill prepared for WWII when it happened. We had a very weak army and a hurting economy. what we did have was the capacity to manufacture and the war gave us customers in need. what people forget is during the early stages of the war we ramped up our capacity, shifted from production for civilian needs to military and sole every thing to the allies. FDR had a golden opportunity dumped in his lap. With Bush, it was just the opposite. we were paying and consuming what we produced. so we incurred the debt.

another thing about FDR, while he was credited with starting the entitlements program, his entitlements where a lot different from todays. in FDR's world, you didn't have a check mailed to you which you cashed and then sat on your ass all day. You got a check for work you did. he provided programs that provided jobs. but you went where the work was. you wanted a job you got your but out to Arizona and built a dam or out to Kansas and built a road. it wasn't a free hand out. we built an infrastructure in return. Democrats weren't always the weak willed socialist liberals of todays world. todays liberals have taken a concept that held merit and turned it into a crippling anchor to the country. by turning the programs into free give aways, the have not only created a class of dependent people, they have encouraged it to grow and attracted a class of people who are more than willing to let someone else pay their way

 

[NYcarbineer]

The defense spending lobby is trying to revive the nuclear arms race in one form or another now that Iraq is over and Afghanistan is winding down.

 

[Spoonman]

I believe Barack Obama will be remembered as the President who failed to protect America from a Russian nuclear attack. I don't believe America will be wiped out but I do believe we will be hit so hard we won't be able to respond to an attack on Israel when that time comes. The Liberal Progressives are the ones who have made America vulnerable enough for this to become possible.

If America were to be hit by Russian nukes on all 4 corners tomorrow - the American people would blame Obama and those who put him in office.

Then the pit the liberal progressives have dug for the GOP would be the one they fall into instead. I wouldn't want to be a liberal progressive in that day. Not in a million years. - Jeri

I think a civil war is more likely to happen in America. I would love to be wrong.

When the dollar ceases to be the global currency, or even as it continues to lose it's importance and commodity prices continue to rise spurring inflation there will be. we can not continue to maintain the level of debt we do and support the percent of the population we do even at todays prices. what happens when they increase.

 

[JimH52]

Obama will be remembered positively for being the first black President, nothing more.

Even though we all know that Bill Clinton was the first black President and Obama isn't black, Obama will likely get all the credit.

You are seriously mistaken about that. I do not see America surviving this mans second term in office. ( intact - without nuclear strike ) The Russians would have to be totally blind not to seize the opportunity while they have it. They never dropped their ambitions against the United States. They despise us. They have had submarines off the coast of the eastern seaboard of usa for decades waiting for the day to strike.

Now you have NK making provocative threats and that didn't come out of nowhere. Castro made his predictions some time ago about America coming under a nuclear attack. Where is he getting that from? The word is out. That is what is going on. Listen to the internet chatter coming out of Nicaragua - the communists are boasting about Mexico being their gateway - that Cuba will join them. Join them in what? An invasion on the United States. It is obvious there is a big plan underway. - Jeri

You are probably the most distorted poster on this board, which is saying quite a bit. Very bizarre...

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Any nutter that reads what Jeremiah wrote and does not immediately dismiss him as a nutjob.....no longer to be taken seriously.....is an idiot.

Saying "I hope it does not happen" is tacit approval. What is wrong with you people.

What is wrong with you is a better question, laugher. I'm thinking ahead here and what I see is that the Obama Administration has weakened America by foolishly trusting the Russians and believing the cold war was over, by giving away classified secrets to our enemies, tours through NORAD, invitations to train on our bases with our military - grand tour of our nuclear missile sites by Hillary - all foolishness... Obama has weakened the strength of America to the degree that the Russians could easily accomplish a nuclear strike against us. Time will tell if I am right. I hope I am wrong. Most sincerely I do. But I don't believe I am.

- Jeremiah

You are a crazy person who needs a forum like this to say crazy things.

I get it.

I've yet to see you "get anything" but I'll keep watching for any sign of it. Where there is life there is hope. So they say...... - Jeri

 

[Redfish]

The defense spending lobby is trying to revive the nuclear arms race in one form or another now that Iraq is over and Afghanistan is winding down.

really? is that what kos told you to post today? you are totally FOS.

 

[JimH52]

I believe Barack Obama will be remembered as the President who failed to protect America from a Russian nuclear attack. I don't believe America will be wiped out but I do believe we will be hit so hard we won't be able to respond to an attack on Israel when that time comes. The Liberal Progressives are the ones who have made America vulnerable enough for this to become possible.

If America were to be hit by Russian nukes on all 4 corners tomorrow - the American people would blame Obama and those who put him in office.

Then the pit the liberal progressives have dug for the GOP would be the one they fall into instead. I wouldn't want to be a liberal progressive in that day. Not in a million years. - Jeri

I think a civil war is more likely to happen in America. I would love to be wrong.

When the dollar ceases to be the global currency, or even as it continues to lose it's importance and commodity prices continue to rise spurring inflation there will be. we can not continue to maintain the level of debt we do and support the percent of the population we do even at todays prices. what happens when they increase.

But but but "Deficits do not matter!" unless of course a Democratic President is in office.

The GOP?s Three Fiscal Lies - The Daily Beast

 

[LoneLaugher]

What percent of the population are we supporting?

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Obama will be remembered positively for being the first black President, nothing more.

Even though we all know that Bill Clinton was the first black President and Obama isn't black, Obama will likely get all the credit.

You are seriously mistaken about that. I do not see America surviving this mans second term in office. ( intact - without nuclear strike ) The Russians would have to be totally blind not to seize the opportunity while they have it. They never dropped their ambitions against the United States. They despise us. They have had submarines off the coast of the eastern seaboard of usa for decades waiting for the day to strike.

Now you have NK making provocative threats and that didn't come out of nowhere. Castro made his predictions some time ago about America coming under a nuclear attack. Where is he getting that from? The word is out. That is what is going on. Listen to the internet chatter coming out of Nicaragua - the communists are boasting about Mexico being their gateway - that Cuba will join them. Join them in what? An invasion on the United States. It is obvious there is a big plan underway. - Jeri

You are probably the most distorted poster on this board, which is saying quite a bit. Very bizarre...

Well, as you are a liberal you have to be an expert in denying reality. Otherwise how could you continue to listen to Obama and believe he is not destroying America from within? Have you bothered to look around you?

Under his adminstration America has become more vulnerable to enemy attack than any time in recent history. You can be sure Americas enemies realise it. Why do you think Putin, Chavez, Al Qaeda, Muslim brotherhood, Hamas and every other dangerous thug in the world was behind the re-election of Barack Obama?

I am not alone in believing that right now America is in a very vulnerable position and the person responsible is the one on watch. Barack Obama. So if America gets hit on his watch? The liberals will need to find a new country to go live in. Try North Korea! You & your ilk need to see first hand what you've been supporting. - Jeri

 

[NYcarbineer]

Have you noticed how much you hear missile defense brought up nowadays? This is the new push by the defense lobby.

Mutually assured destruction as a nuclear war strategy isn't as profitable to the defense industry as it used to be. The new trick is to sell the idea that MAD need not be 'assured' as long as we're willing to put trillions into the pockets of that defense industry for missile defense,

building the 21st version of the Maginot Line against nuclear attack.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Yeah. FDR proved that conclusively, didn't he? And, George W. Bush proved it the other way, right?

FDR did very little for the Army either with its size or weapons and during the 1930s, his defense budgets were cut to the bone. To quote George Marshall's words to FDR in May 1940: "If you don't do something...and do it right away, I don't know what is going to happen to this country". FDR had underestimated the Japanese and the Pearl Harbor attack devastated the American Navy and exposed the president's incompetence.
From "FDR Goes To War," by Folsom and Folsom

You should exhibit more care in claiming that FDR was both liberal and protective of America. Those might be mutually exclusive categories....Due to cuts in military spending through the 30’s as a percentage of the federal budget, the United States was woefully unprepared for war. The US was 17th in the world in military strength, and this ultimately let us into a two-ocean war.

Well researched with information taken from such sources as the Congressional Record, prominent newspapers like the New York Times and scholarly historical works of that period. The book also does not trash FDR in every aspect of his administration as the Folsoms do give him credit for readying America for the conflict after Pearl Harbor by suspending his New Deal mentality for the duration of the war and giving private business free reign to pursue profits and maximizing output.

very true. the usa was very ill prepared for WWII when it happened. We had a very weak army and a hurting economy. what we did have was the capacity to manufacture and the war gave us customers in need. what people forget is during the early stages of the war we ramped up our capacity, shifted from production for civilian needs to military and sole every thing to the allies. FDR had a golden opportunity dumped in his lap. With Bush, it was just the opposite. we were paying and consuming what we produced. so we incurred the debt.

another thing about FDR, while he was credited with starting the entitlements program, his entitlements where a lot different from todays. in FDR's world, you didn't have a check mailed to you which you cashed and then sat on your ass all day. You got a check for work you did. he provided programs that provided jobs. but you went where the work was. you wanted a job you got your but out to Arizona and built a dam or out to Kansas and built a road. it wasn't a free hand out. we built an infrastructure in return. Democrats weren't always the weak willed socialist liberals of todays world. todays liberals have taken a concept that held merit and turned it into a crippling anchor to the country. by turning the programs into free give aways, the have not only created a class of dependent people, they have encouraged it to grow and attracted a class of people who are more than willing to let someone else pay their way

"...FDR, while he was credited with starting the entitlements program, his entitlements where a lot different from todays. "

You're right, Spoony....but let's not give the guy more credit than he deserves.




1. He destroyed any constitutional restrictions due to the enumerated powers when he declared a "Second Bill of Rights."


2. He caused the mortgage meltdown when he created Fannie and Freddie.


3. And, although his programs were not as deleterious as LBJ's....FDR brought the 'camel's nose under the tent.'
The New Deal originated the AFDC program. Until the Great Society, however, AFDC had the exclusive purpose of providing for widows–previously married women who had lost the breadwinner in their homes.
Johnson and Congress quietly changed AFDC qualifications to include any household where there was no male family head present, a shift that made virtually any divorced or single mother of low income eligible for taxpayer money. The incentives of the program made it financially more lucrative not to be married than to be married.


FDR ended the American experiment as it was originally created.
[No...I'm not forgetting about Wilson....]

 

[NoNukes]

I believe Barack Obama will be remembered as the President who failed to protect America from a Russian nuclear attack. I don't believe America will be wiped out but I do believe we will be hit so hard we won't be able to respond to an attack on Israel when that time comes. The Liberal Progressives are the ones who have made America vulnerable enough for this to become possible.

If America were to be hit by Russian nukes on all 4 corners tomorrow - the American people would blame Obama and those who put him in office.

Then the pit the liberal progressives have dug for the GOP would be the one they fall into instead. I wouldn't want to be a liberal progressive in that day. Not in a million years. - Jeri

Russian nuclear attack???? Political Chic brings out the crazy and stupid ones from the right.

Well...you're here....

You're time out of the 'nervous hospital'?

If you could comprehend what you read, you would see the 'out' that I left myself. And remember, you are known by the company that you keep.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Russian nuclear attack???? Political Chic brings out the crazy and stupid ones from the right.

Well...you're here....

You're time out of the 'nervous hospital'?

If you could comprehend what you read, you would see the 'out' that I left myself. And remember, you are known by the company that you keep.

I recognize the 'out'....someone forgot to lace up the straight jacket.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Obama will be remembered positively for being the first black President, nothing more.

Even though we all know that Bill Clinton was the first black President and Obama isn't black, Obama will likely get all the credit.

You are seriously mistaken about that. I do not see America surviving this mans second term in office. ( intact - without nuclear strike ) The Russians would have to be totally blind not to seize the opportunity while they have it. They never dropped their ambitions against the United States. They despise us. They have had submarines off the coast of the eastern seaboard of usa for decades waiting for the day to strike.

Now you have NK making provocative threats and that didn't come out of nowhere. Castro made his predictions some time ago about America coming under a nuclear attack. Where is he getting that from? The word is out. That is what is going on. Listen to the internet chatter coming out of Nicaragua - the communists are boasting about Mexico being their gateway - that Cuba will join them. Join them in what? An invasion on the United States. It is obvious there is a big plan underway. - Jeri

it takes many years

to judge the presidency

Not for all or us....


Seems some are smarter than others.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I believe Barack Obama will be remembered as the President who failed to protect America from a Russian nuclear attack. I don't believe America will be wiped out but I do believe we will be hit so hard we won't be able to respond to an attack on Israel when that time comes. The Liberal Progressives are the ones who have made America vulnerable enough for this to become possible.

If America were to be hit by Russian nukes on all 4 corners tomorrow - the American people would blame Obama and those who put him in office.

Then the pit the liberal progressives have dug for the GOP would be the one they fall into instead. I wouldn't want to be a liberal progressive in that day. Not in a million years. - Jeri

I think a civil war is more likely to happen in America. I would love to be wrong.

I agree. the country is more divided now than ever in history. a civil war is possible. the only question is which side would the military take. I think they would side with the conservatives, you?

"The Obama got 44% of the military vote."
What percentage of the military voted for Obama

 

[PoliticalChic]

I believe Barack Obama will be remembered as the President who failed to protect America from a Russian nuclear attack. I don't believe America will be wiped out but I do believe we will be hit so hard we won't be able to respond to an attack on Israel when that time comes. The Liberal Progressives are the ones who have made America vulnerable enough for this to become possible.

If America were to be hit by Russian nukes on all 4 corners tomorrow - the American people would blame Obama and those who put him in office.

Then the pit the liberal progressives have dug for the GOP would be the one they fall into instead. I wouldn't want to be a liberal progressive in that day. Not in a million years. - Jeri

I think a civil war is more likely to happen in America. I would love to be wrong.

When the dollar ceases to be the global currency, or even as it continues to lose it's importance and commodity prices continue to rise spurring inflation there will be. we can not continue to maintain the level of debt we do and support the percent of the population we do even at todays prices. what happens when they increase.

How do you suppose universities approach this question?

The social sciences are dominated by Leftists.