Zone1 Juneteenth is Just Another Day to Spread The Hate Towards White People

[IM2]

This ^^

Then why are whites here always complaining about Blacks History Month, MLK Day, and Juneteenth? We don't see these complaints for other history months.

 

[TNHarley]

Then why are whites here always complaining about Blacks History Month, MLK Day, and Juneteenth? We don't see these complaints for other history months.

Why do whites complain about thanksgiving, july 4th, memorial day or columbus day?
People complain about dumb shit.

 

[Lisa558]

Juneteenth is promoted as a holiday to balkanize our society. The slaves were freed with the penning of the Declaration of Independence. Sure, there were steps leading up to that but it signaled a new nation that rejected slavery in it’s founding. It took time to unravel slavery’s tentacles, which had been established since the beginning of human history. The vast majority of slaves in the US had already been freed by Juneteenth. The date only marks the last few bitter Democrats releasing their slaves under the threat of the US military.

Is it that the last few Democrats in Texas didn’t want to release their slaves, or did they not get the message? It’s not like the Lincoln Administration could send out an email blast.

 

[MarathonMike]

Not by themselves. The british would have won the Revolutionary War if not for Native Americans showing guerilla warfare to the colonial whites.

Now that's a good one, who says you don't have a sense of humor! The Natives trained the colonists in guerilla warfare tactics with weapons they didn't understand. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

 

[Lisa558]

Then why are whites here always complaining about Blacks History Month, MLK Day, and Juneteenth? We don't see these complaints for other history months.

I’m not aware of other history months. They’re downplayed, for sure. The only months ever blasted all over the news waves are 1) Black History Month, and 2) while not a history month, the Pride Month.

 

[Hellbilly]

Now that's a good one, who says you don't have a sense of humor! The Natives trained the colonists in guerilla warfare tactics with weapons they didn't understand. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Natives trained colonists in a lot of things.

 

[IM2]

Why do whites complain about thanksgiving, july 4th, memorial day or columbus day?
People complain about dumb shit.

Whites here have not complained about any of those days.

 

[el midgetron]

You were fine until the last sentence. It was a republican named Thomas Corwin who crafted an amendment that was passed by congress to make slavery constitutional.

How the Corwin Amendment of 1861 Would Have Protected Enslavement

In 1861, Congress proposed a constitutional amendment to protect enslavement. What was the Corwin Amendment and did Lincoln actually endorse it?

www.thoughtco.com

He was attempting to avoid the Civil War. Obviously no political party is 100% cohesive and in total alignmen. However you choose to view Corwin, it does not negate the point I was making about bitter democrats clinging to slavery in Texas, eventually giving us Juneteenth.

Democrats were protecting slavery in Texas, years before the Republican party was even formed.

“In 1845 the state legislature passed legislation further restricting the rights of free blacks. For example, it subjected them to punishments, such as working on road gangs if convicted of crimes, similar to those of enslaved rather than free men”

History of slavery in Texas - Wikipedia



After defeat in the Civil War, bitter and racist Democrat veterans founded the KKK. Nearly a quarter of the people lynched by the KKK were white Republicans.

”While some whites were lynched for murder or stealing cattle, there is another important reason many were lynched. Many whites were lynched for helping blacks or being anti-lynching. According to David Barton’s extensively well-documented book, "Setting the Record Straight: American History in Black & White," the original targets of the Ku Klux Klan were Republicans, both black and white. The Klan terrorized both black and white Americans not to vote for Republican tickets. “Of all forms of violent intimidation, lynchings were by far the most effective.” Republicans often led the efforts to pass federal anti-lynching laws and their platforms consistently called for a ban on lynching. “Democrats successfully blocked those bills and their platforms never did condemn lynchings.”

Many whites were lynched for fighting racism

Racism is not dead in America, but the fact remains that many whites have died trying to defeat it, an Alabama Sate professor says.

www.montgomeryadvertiser.com

 

[el midgetron]

Is it that the last few Democrats in Texas didn’t want to release their slaves, or did they not get the message? It’s not like the Lincoln Administration could send out an email blast.

The US government didn’t have total control over all territories after the Civil War. The slave holders in Texas chose to disregard the Emancipation Proclamation and it wasn’t enforced by Texas authorities,

 

[AZrailwhale]

Now that's a good one, who says you don't have a sense of humor! The Natives trained the colonists in guerilla warfare tactics with weapons they didn't understand. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

What he doesn't realize is that a large portion of the original colonists were Scots and Irish who had been using guerrilla tactics against the British for hundreds of years.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

but we don't need a federal holiday for it

Who exactly is "we" as in "we don't need...". Do you complain when you get Dr. King's birthday off, that's a federal holiday as well and in your own words "not everyone is Black" although a celebration of rights should be for everyone, irrespective of their color or race.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

You don't have to be Christian to celebrate Christmas as there's the commercial part of it.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

That doesn't even make any sense. I mean don't get me wrong, I'm glad that black people aren't slaves anymore, but it's sort of pointless for me to celebrate Juneteenth when I'm not black.

You don't have to celebrate it personally, but don't begrudge others who do.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

The 4th of July isn't a race based holiday.

It may not be billed that way but in effect, it most certainly was a race based holiday in that only white people, with few exceptions, were the ones who benefited from that declaration of independence.

 

[Road Runner]

Who exactly is "we" as in "we don't need...". Do you complain when you get Dr. King's birthday off, that's a federal holiday as well and in your own words "not everyone is Black" although a celebration of rights should be for everyone, irrespective of their color or race.

That's another stupid day to have off.

 

[IM2]

He was attempting to avoid the Civil War. Obviously no political party is 100% cohesive and in total alignmen. However you choose to view Corwin, it does not negate the point I was making about bitter democrats clinging to slavery in Texas, eventually giving us Juneteenth.

Democrats were protecting slavery in Texas, years before the Republican party was even formed.

“In 1845 the state legislature passed legislation further restricting the rights of free blacks. For example, it subjected them to punishments, such as working on road gangs if convicted of crimes, similar to those of enslaved rather than free men”

History of slavery in Texas - Wikipedia



After defeat in the Civil War, bitter and racist Democrat veterans founded the KKK. Nearly a quarter of the people lynched by the KKK were white Republicans.

”While some whites were lynched for murder or stealing cattle, there is another important reason many were lynched. Many whites were lynched for helping blacks or being anti-lynching. According to David Barton’s extensively well-documented book, "Setting the Record Straight: American History in Black & White," the original targets of the Ku Klux Klan were Republicans, both black and white. The Klan terrorized both black and white Americans not to vote for Republican tickets. “Of all forms of violent intimidation, lynchings were by far the most effective.” Republicans often led the efforts to pass federal anti-lynching laws and their platforms consistently called for a ban on lynching. “Democrats successfully blocked those bills and their platforms never did condemn lynchings.”

Many whites were lynched for fighting racism

Racism is not dead in America, but the fact remains that many whites have died trying to defeat it, an Alabama Sate professor says.

www.montgomeryadvertiser.com

I think republicans need to stop this lying. So let me post this again, because there is no excuse for republicans trying to make slavery constitutional.

There is a lot modern republicans choose not to tell young blacks as they try luring blacks into supporting a move back into Jim Crow. First, not all Republicans were for racial equality. The Party had several factions in the beginning. One was the Radical Republicans. The Radical Republicans were for the eradication of slavery. They were not conservatives. Frederick Douglass was a Radical Republican. Lincoln was moderate politically. He opposed the expansion of slavery but did not believe in racial equality.

“I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black ... I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will for ever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be a position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.”

Arthur Zilversmit, Lincoln and the Problem of Race: A Decade of Interpretations, Journal of the Abraham Lincoln Association, Volume 2, Issue 1, 1980, pp. 22-45, U-M Library Digital Collections j/jala/2629860.0002.104?view=text;rgn=main

Henry Louis Gates Jr., Did Lincoln Want to Ship Black People Back to Africa? https://www.theroot.com/did-lincoln-want-to-ship-black people-back-to-africa-1790858389

In 1876, America celebrated its one hundredth birthday. In that same year, there was an election. The 1876 election offered Samuel Tilden from the Democratic party and Rutherford Hayes from the Republican party. Tilden won the popular vote but needed at least 185 electoral votes to become president. He got stuck at 184. Hayes had 166, but nineteen unawarded electoral votes remained after the popular vote. The nineteen votes belonged to South Carolina, Florida, and Louisiana. To get those nineteen votes, Hayes promised to end reconstruction. This promise is known as the 1877 Compromise.

The conditions of the 1877 Compromise are as follows: Hayes would remove federal troops and allow southern states home rule. Rutherford’s agreement to withdraw federal troops took away the protection the newly freed blacks had in the south from physical violence and nullified or ended constitutional protections blacks had due to the Union victory. Allowing the south home rule meant the Republican Party would no longer intervene in local issues in the south. At that point, the Republican Party first turned its back on blacks and ended its commitment to black civil rights in the south.

Louis Kleber, The Presidential Election of 1876, History Today Volume 20 Issue 11 November 1970, https://www.historytoday.com/archive/feature/presidentialelection-1876

The Compromise of 1877, Khan Academy | Free Online Courses, Lessons & Practice humanities/us-history/civil-war-era/reconstruction/a/ compromise-of-1877

During the Civil War period, Radical Republicans had great power and were able to get initiatives passed providing blacks with civil rights. The pressure from Radical Republicans was responsible for creating the 14th Amendment and the implementation of the Reconstruction Acts over President Johnson’s veto. These two actions allowed protection to the newly freed blacks.

The influence of the Radical Republicans was gone once reconstruction ended, and the republican party began to turn away from issues affecting blacks. Southern white Republicans resented that the party had become the “black folks party” to use the kindest description, and felt that they needed to gain support from southern whites to become national. As blacks gained power and started winning elections, white resistance increased, and as a result, there was a backlash against southern black republicans called the lily-white movement.

“The lily-white movement was an all-white faction of the Republican Party in the Southern United States in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. It battled and usually defeated the biracial element called the Black-and-tan faction.

During Reconstruction, following the U.S. Civil War, black leaders in Texas and around the country gained increasing influence in the Republican Party by organizing blacks as an important voting bloc. Conservative whites attempted to eliminate this influence and recover white voters who had defected to the Democratic Party. The effort was largely successful in eliminating African-American influence in the Republican Party leading to black voters predominantly migrating to the Democratic Party for much of the 20th century.

The term lily-white movement was coined by Texas Republican leader Norris Wright Cuney, who used the term in an 1888 Republican convention to describe efforts by white conservatives to oust blacks from positions of Texas party leadership and incite riots to divide the party. The term came to be used nationally to describe this ongoing movement as it further developed in the early 20th century, including through the administration of Herbert Hoover. Localized movements began immediately after the war but by the beginning of the 20th century the effort had become national. This movement is largely credited with driving blacks out of the Republican party during the early 20th century, setting the stage for their eventual support of the Democrats.”

Jeff Charles, Lily-White Movement: Why Black Americans Left The GOP, Liberty Nation News, April 02, 2021, https://www.libertynation.com/lily-white-movement-why-blackamericans-left-the-gop/

Lily-white movement, American History USA white-movement/

You are probably the thousandth republican who has tried this garbage. Here is one more for you:

By 1964, there were blacks whose families had been Republicans since emancipation. They stayed faithful to a party that really did nothing for blacks after Lincoln signed the proclamation. While Republican, blacks endured Jim Crow Apartheid nationwide, redlining, restrictive covenants, acts of terror, white instigated racial violence, and the refusal to respect the constitutional rights of black people. Despite years of loyal black support, in 1964 Republicans nominated Barry Goldwater for president. His nomination was a slap in the face of black people. Goldwater voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act. When we got civil rights, republicans decided that extremism in defense of liberty was patriotism, turned their backs on us, and began letting southern white racists become part of the party.

We read the line from Johnson from republican racists in here about how his signing ofv The Civil and Voting Rights Act would give the black vote to democrats for the next 100 years. But just like everything else in the republican lie, critical facts are left out.

The night that Democratic President Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, his special assistant Bill Moyers was surprised to find the president looking melancholy in his bedroom. Moyers later wrote that when he asked what was wrong, Johnson replied, “I think we just delivered the South to the Republican party for a long time to come.”

How the ‘Party of Lincoln’ Won Over the Once Democratic South | HISTORY

Democratic defectors, known as the “Dixiecrats,” started a switch to the Republican party in a movement that was later fueled by a so-called "Southern strategy."

www.history.com

And Johnson was right.

 

[Hellbilly]

The 4th of July isn't a race based holiday.

How many Natives were murdered so you could obtain your Independence?
By the way the holiday is not the 4th of July. It's Independence Day. For white people.

 

[alang1216]

I don't care about the day itself, I care about all the black people spreading the hate among white people.

Hate or history? I think the freedom gained by former slaves was far greater than that gained by the colonies gained by breaking from England. Ironically, independence from England only delayed the freedom of the slaves in the US.

 

[IM2]

How many Natives were murdered so you could obtain your Independence?
By the way the holiday is not the 4th of July. It's Independence Day. For white people.

PREACH!

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

That's another stupid day to have off.

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