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You talk nonsense. The ACA didn't merge corporations. There is still the same competition there was before, and all of the insurers are on the same playing field.Since before the ACA there was competition between insurance companies and any company increasing premiums that steeply would have lost customers in a stampede for their competitors
Yes - if you're looking for financial help you have to use the exchange and pick one of those policies.Why can't you black out identifying information and post the letter?Be thankful. Without Obamacare your premiums could have seen a 400% or higher increase. Or worse, if you got sick you would be dropped like a hot potato.The letter from Florida Blue arrived yesterday and my insurance premiums will have a 350% increase starting this January. Affordable Care Act? Thanks Barry! Thanks Harry! Thanks Nancy! Thanks Democrats!
What the hell happened to my savings of $2,500 a year?
Perhaps you should consider moving to Pence territory: Indiana. There the rates dropped there in 2016 and that trend is on track to continue into 2017. PSST: Mike Pence has been eerily silent on this… Hmmmm!
Indiana had biggest drop in Obamacare rates in 2016
http://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2015/06/11/obamacare-premiums-drop-indiana/71077884/
Why would my premiums have gone up 400% without the ACA? They never increased more than around 20% EVER...yet you claim they "could" have gone up 400%? Give me a reason why that would have taken place, JQ!
You are claiming an arbitrary rise of 350 % and that would mean if you were paying 400 your new rate is 1400.
I'd like to see a Medicare for all program, full disclosure.
Pony up or look like a liar.
It's amazing how many times a left winger will come on here, make grand statements, and expect us to take it at face value. The moment a right-winger says something happen to them, you demand documented proof, and refuse to believe it otherwise.
It's like all the insurance companies terminating coverage. We say that. It's in the papers. It's well known. Yet when I say "My insurance company canceled my policy. Thanks ObamaCare" you don't believe it until I post a picture.
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Came in my mail box. Is that proof enough for you?
The number of insurance policies available in Ohio, is now down to 2 companies. And the number of policy options is now down to 8. When I first applied for private coverage back in 2006, there were 3 pages of policies to choose from, from a dozen companies.
But thanks to ObamaCare, they removed from me all those choices. Apparently the public isn't smart enough to make their own choices. So left-wing elites, and their arrogant self-important followers, decided to make my choices for me.
Thanks Left-wingers. We all love you dictating our lives. Idiots.
They could have. Democrats asked them to co-write the bill and introduce their own amendments. They refused to do anything because they thought they could just defeat the whole thing.They didn't implement their idea in legislation, democrats did. Sorry, but you're going to have to put blame for the stool sample where it really belongs.I've said it again, and I guess I'll just keep repeating myself.
In 2006, I got an insurance policy for just $67 a month.
Today, the cheapest insurance is $250.
ObamaCare did this. If you voted for Obama, then you got what you asked for.
Everyone who voted for the Affordable Care Act should be tarred and feathered and run out of Washington DC on a rail. They have screwed us so badly with this legislation!
And those who hatched the plan at the Heritage Foundation?
Vote for the whore! She'll fix it!The letter from Florida Blue arrived yesterday and my insurance premiums will have a 350% increase starting this January. Affordable Care Act? Thanks Barry! Thanks Harry! Thanks Nancy! Thanks Democrats!
What the hell happened to my savings of $2,500 a year?
They could have. Democrats asked them to co-write the bill and introduce their own amendments. They refused to do anything because they thought they could just defeat the whole thing.They didn't implement their idea in legislation, democrats did. Sorry, but you're going to have to put blame for the stool sample where it really belongs.I've said it again, and I guess I'll just keep repeating myself.
In 2006, I got an insurance policy for just $67 a month.
Today, the cheapest insurance is $250.
ObamaCare did this. If you voted for Obama, then you got what you asked for.
Everyone who voted for the Affordable Care Act should be tarred and feathered and run out of Washington DC on a rail. They have screwed us so badly with this legislation!
And those who hatched the plan at the Heritage Foundation?
Another disastrous Republican calculation.
They could have. Democrats asked them to co-write the bill and introduce their own amendments. They refused to do anything because they thought they could just defeat the whole thing.They didn't implement their idea in legislation, democrats did. Sorry, but you're going to have to put blame for the stool sample where it really belongs.I've said it again, and I guess I'll just keep repeating myself.
In 2006, I got an insurance policy for just $67 a month.
Today, the cheapest insurance is $250.
ObamaCare did this. If you voted for Obama, then you got what you asked for.
Everyone who voted for the Affordable Care Act should be tarred and feathered and run out of Washington DC on a rail. They have screwed us so badly with this legislation!
And those who hatched the plan at the Heritage Foundation?
Another disastrous Republican calculation.
Vote for the whore! She'll fix it!The letter from Florida Blue arrived yesterday and my insurance premiums will have a 350% increase starting this January. Affordable Care Act? Thanks Barry! Thanks Harry! Thanks Nancy! Thanks Democrats!
What the hell happened to my savings of $2,500 a year?
You would do well in another area.Vote for the whore! She'll fix it!The letter from Florida Blue arrived yesterday and my insurance premiums will have a 350% increase starting this January. Affordable Care Act? Thanks Barry! Thanks Harry! Thanks Nancy! Thanks Democrats!
What the hell happened to my savings of $2,500 a year?
No one has any intention of fixing anything, you'd do well to figure that out.
They could have. Democrats asked them to co-write the bill and introduce their own amendments. They refused to do anything because they thought they could just defeat the whole thing.They didn't implement their idea in legislation, democrats did. Sorry, but you're going to have to put blame for the stool sample where it really belongs.I've said it again, and I guess I'll just keep repeating myself.
In 2006, I got an insurance policy for just $67 a month.
Today, the cheapest insurance is $250.
ObamaCare did this. If you voted for Obama, then you got what you asked for.
Everyone who voted for the Affordable Care Act should be tarred and feathered and run out of Washington DC on a rail. They have screwed us so badly with this legislation!
And those who hatched the plan at the Heritage Foundation?
Another disastrous Republican calculation.
Yup the democrats wanted to fuck over the middle class no matter what.
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You would do well in another area.Vote for the whore! She'll fix it!The letter from Florida Blue arrived yesterday and my insurance premiums will have a 350% increase starting this January. Affordable Care Act? Thanks Barry! Thanks Harry! Thanks Nancy! Thanks Democrats!
What the hell happened to my savings of $2,500 a year?
No one has any intention of fixing anything, you'd do well to figure that out.
FYIThey could have. Democrats asked them to co-write the bill and introduce their own amendments. They refused to do anything because they thought they could just defeat the whole thing.They didn't implement their idea in legislation, democrats did. Sorry, but you're going to have to put blame for the stool sample where it really belongs.I've said it again, and I guess I'll just keep repeating myself.
In 2006, I got an insurance policy for just $67 a month.
Today, the cheapest insurance is $250.
ObamaCare did this. If you voted for Obama, then you got what you asked for.
Everyone who voted for the Affordable Care Act should be tarred and feathered and run out of Washington DC on a rail. They have screwed us so badly with this legislation!
And those who hatched the plan at the Heritage Foundation?
Another disastrous Republican calculation.
The only "train wreck" on my horizon is that involving the Trump train. Before the PPACA was signed and enacted into law 50 million Americans were without insurance,primarily because it was too damn expensive. But even if you managed to scrape enough change together to buy health Insurance, you lived in fear of being dropped if you got sick. What kind of life was THAT? Further, pre-existing conditions, as defined by the insurer, could prevent you from having access to ANY insurance..unless you were willing to pay extremely high premiums. Does 400% over the norm sound so ridiculous now?Be thankful. Without Obamacare your premiums could have seen a 400% or higher increase. Or worse, if you got sick you would be dropped like a hot potato.The letter from Florida Blue arrived yesterday and my insurance premiums will have a 350% increase starting this January. Affordable Care Act? Thanks Barry! Thanks Harry! Thanks Nancy! Thanks Democrats!
What the hell happened to my savings of $2,500 a year?
Perhaps you should consider moving to Pence territory: Indiana. There the rates dropped in 2016 and that trend is on track to continue into 2017. PSST: Mike Pence has been eerily silent on this… Hmmmm!
Indiana had biggest drop in Obamacare rates in 2016
http://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2015/06/11/obamacare-premiums-drop-indiana/71077884/
This is typical left-wingism. Look at a complete train wreck, and say "well yes, but if not for us, it would have been worse".
Reminds me of the stimulus package. Obama's own economic advisors said that without the stimulus plan, unemployment would hit 8% and take a long time to recover. With the plan it would only hit 6% and take two years to recover. Instead it hit 10% and has taken eight years, from 2008 when it was 5%, to get back to 5% where it got to this year.
And whenever you talk to a leftwinger "yeah but it would have been worse"... no your BS didn't work, just like ObamaCrap didn't work.
See post #214Be thankful. Without Obamacare your premiums could have seen a 400% or higher increase. Or worse, if you got sick you would be dropped like a hot potato.The letter from Florida Blue arrived yesterday and my insurance premiums will have a 350% increase starting this January. Affordable Care Act? Thanks Barry! Thanks Harry! Thanks Nancy! Thanks Democrats!
What the hell happened to my savings of $2,500 a year?
Perhaps you should consider moving to Pence territory: Indiana. There the rates dropped there in 2016 and that trend is on track to continue into 2017. PSST: Mike Pence has been eerily silent on this… Hmmmm!
Indiana had biggest drop in Obamacare rates in 2016
http://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2015/06/11/obamacare-premiums-drop-indiana/71077884/
Why would my premiums have gone up 400% without the ACA? They never increased more than around 20% EVER...yet you claim they "could" have gone up 400%? Give me a reason why that would have taken place, JQ!
What it tells me is that he's a low wage earner looking to be subsidized by taxpayersIf yours is going up 350% with an Obamacare policy, and Fenton's is going up 400% with a non-Obamacare policy, what does that tell you?You really ARE that clueless about what's going on with the ACA...aren't you, Care?
Most of the public is, including you, you're merely scratching an emotional itch.
A 350% increase in my premiums isn't an "emotional itch", you buffoon! You're even dumber than Care is...and that's saying something!
You're on Obamacare? Mine went up this year as well, 400%, and the deductable went up 300%, through the corporation I work for.
You might pass that information along to Ravi...who thinks I'm lying when I say my premiums are going up 350%!
Think about it before posting.
Help Hillary "Invest" in the Middle-class......Work two jobs. Sell body parts. Downsize to a tent. Cut back on unnecessary spending like beer, chips, TV, internet .....How the hell do they expect us to pay for this? I'm in shock. I'm seriously in shock.
It's for the greater good.
How many millions will drop their HC next year because they can't afford the 350% increase?It always was the case.
No, it wasn't. Only in your mythology you used to justify screwing us all over, has it "always been the case".
Oh, right, so millions of people didn't have to choose between healthcare and putting food on the table before? then explain why so many people didn't have healthcare before Obamacare then?
Huh? Really? After all this time, you never heard the facts?
First of, according to the US census, 40% of those without insurance, were making over $50,000 a year. If you make over $50,000 a year and don't have insurance, it's because you bought a house, car, beer, and speed boat, instead of getting insurance.
Further, 20% of those, were living in households making $75K or more. No excuses.
Only 30% made less than $25,000 a year.
Moreover, about 10% are illegals, which you claim can't get ObamaCare. So why are you complaining they don't have insurance?
Lastly, because they choose to not get insurance. There's a video on YouTube where a reporter asked this girl in California, why she didn't have insurance. She was single, no kids, and had a middle class income. "Well it's too expensive". So they punched in her information, and found she could qualify for a basic health insurance plan and pay just $90 a month. She said straight up "well I think it's ridiculous that I have to pay for health care".
Even more ironic, later in the interview she openly admitted that she easily spent $800 a month on eating out.
I myself went years without health insurance. It was a choice. I could afford it... but choose not to have it. Similarly I know other people who bought health insurance, and then canceled it. They said very openly... why have it? I don't need it. So why pay for it?
Extremely few people simply can't afford health insurance.
And as a final note, even of those, the US Census found that 30% of the uninsured qualified for government insurance, and simply choose to not enroll in Medicaid or S-CHIP, or other programs.
That's why people don't have insurance. It's a choice.
Facts huh?
http://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf
Here are some facts.
In 2007 (looking at pg 22) 45 million people were uninsured which appears to be 15% of the population.
8 million of these were under 18 years old. 33 million of these were native born with 9.7 million not being naturalized citizens. This doesn't mean they're illegal, it means they're not citizens, some of these could potentially be foreigner workers in the US with legal status.
The South is the area with the highest amount, at 18% of the population.
13 million of these people earned less than $25,000
14.5 million between $25,000 and $50,000.
25.4% of those are people who didn't work. Remember that this was 2007 before the crash.
Only 7.8%, not 20% as you stated, live in households earning more than $75,000 a year.
Some people might have chosen not to get health insurance. That's not really the point. In the UK you don't have this choice, you pay if you work, and it gets taken out of your wages.
Then when the shit hits the fan, they're covered regardless.
But you're using lots of numbers to say this isn't many people. I disagree.
$13.5 million people didn't have health insurance and probably couldn't afford it. That's a lot of people in my view. But you think those $13.5 million people should just be ignored because.... why exactly?
Why is Obama not suprised by the 350% rate hike and proposing fixes?"Always has" was 5-10%, not 350%.It will keep going up like it always has until we really deal with it, yes. It is a for profit system after all, that's the goal. You see partisanshit in everything, but "neither" side is dealing with it.
Obamacare has imploded. Millions are losing their insurance now as a result because they simply must chose between food on the table or insurance.
It always was the case.
No, it wasn't. Only in your mythology you used to justify screwing us all over, has it "always been the case".
Oh, right, so millions of people didn't have to choose between healthcare and putting food on the table before? then explain why so many people didn't have healthcare before Obamacare then?
nahhh, If he receives subsidy, the subsidy will go up to cover the higher costs is what I had read.... those in need and on the exchange don't get hurtWhat it tells me is that he's a low wage earner looking to be subsidized by taxpayersIf yours is going up 350% with an Obamacare policy, and Fenton's is going up 400% with a non-Obamacare policy, what does that tell you?Most of the public is, including you, you're merely scratching an emotional itch.
A 350% increase in my premiums isn't an "emotional itch", you buffoon! You're even dumber than Care is...and that's saying something!
You're on Obamacare? Mine went up this year as well, 400%, and the deductable went up 300%, through the corporation I work for.
You might pass that information along to Ravi...who thinks I'm lying when I say my premiums are going up 350%!
Think about it before posting.
