Justified?

[Darkwind]

If you did something correctly there is no need to lie. Here we have the cops lying about what happened once again.

The man killed was not wanted, had no record and was legally armed. You are legally permitted to shoot people braking into your home which is what happened here.

We need to STOP no knock raids and I imagine things are going to get ugly if the police officers here are not held accountable.

Minneapolis police release body camera footage of fatal shooting of Black man, 22, during no-knock warrant

You are legally permitted to shoot people breaking into your house right up until the second you hear, "Police, Police".

They are trying to split a red pubic hair on this one. The police were wrong for not announcing they were police BEFORE crossing the threshold, but they did announce AS THEY CROSSED the threshold.

Regardless, the moment you hear them shout Police, you stop.

It will be interesting to see what an investigation comes up with.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Police have a tough job. So there's a little collateral damage .

Unless it's you

 

[BlindBoo]

Legalized Breaking and Entering and murder. No knock warrants violate the 4th

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

 

[Otis Mayfield]

Crump said in a statement that Locke has no past criminal history and legally possessed a firearm at the time of his death. He compared Locke's killing to the botched raid that killed Breonna Taylor.



So, the deceased was legally armed and not bothering anyone at the time of his death.

 

[pknopp]

You are legally permitted to shoot people breaking into your house right up until the second you hear, "Police, Police".

They are trying to split a red pubic hair on this one. The police were wrong for not announcing they were police BEFORE crossing the threshold, but they did announce AS THEY CROSSED the threshold.

Regardless, the moment you hear them shout Police, you stop.

It will be interesting to see what an investigation comes up with.

Wrong. You will note that the boyfriend of Breonna Taylor was not charged.

 

[BlindBoo]

You are legally permitted to shoot people breaking into your house right up until the second you hear, "Police, Police".

They are trying to split a red pubic hair on this one. The police were wrong for not announcing they were police BEFORE crossing the threshold, but they did announce AS THEY CROSSED the threshold.

Regardless, the moment you hear them shout Police, you stop.

It will be interesting to see what an investigation comes up with.

So every time some Home Invaders who are breaking down your door starts yelling "Police", law biding citizens have no recourse and must allow them into their homes. What if they are not police but just yelled it to get entry into your home?

They are as unconstitutional as NYC's stop and frisk policy. But there is no profit in the 4th Amendment.

 

[Darkwind]

Wrong. You will note that the boyfriend of Breonna Taylor was not charged.

I'm not wrong. The article clearly states that the Police announced as they were crossing the threshold and they were making a stink about them not announcing BEFORE crossing the threshold.

Read your own posting.

 

[dblack]

Police have a tough job. So there's a little collateral damage now and then.

Which can be minimized by banning no-knock warrants.

 

[Polishprince]

These local yokel police departments in liberal cities see how their counterparts in Virginia has peaceful seniors like Paul Manafort and Roger Stone arrested, and figure its just standard operating procedure.

 

[Darkwind]

So every time some Home Invaders who are breaking down your door starts yelling "Police", law biding citizens have no recourse and must allow them into their homes. What if they are not police but just yelled it to get entry into your home?

They are as unconstitutional as NYC's stop and frisk policy. But there is no profit in the 4th Amendment.

Not what I said at all. Most thinking people -- clearly democrats would be excluded - Would take note that the people yelling police actually ARE police. IF a banger were to yell police and all he was wearing was this hood colors, then may he rest in peace.

 

[pknopp]

I'm not wrong. The article clearly states that the Police announced as they were crossing the threshold and they were making a stink about them not announcing BEFORE crossing the threshold.

Read your own posting.

I don't have to. Courts have ruled more than once that a person has a right to protect themselves in their own home.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

There's nothing in that article to suggest that it's his apartment or that the gun was legally owned.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if it turns out that he had the gun illegally...

From this article…

Video: Amir Locke, under blanket, holds gun as Minneapolis police officers enter, fire 3 shots

Officers were at the downtown Minneapolis apartment unit to serve a search warrant in connection with a St. Paul homicide investigation. Locke was not the subject of the warrant.

www.startribune.com

Crump and Storms said Locke has several family members in law enforcement and has no criminal history, and he was in legal possession of a firearm at the time of his death. Locke would not have been required to have a permit to possess the weapon in a private residence.​

 

[22lcidw]

Legalized Breaking and Entering and murder. No knock warrants violate the 4th

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Did anyone living in the areas close to this have a say in bringing this to the police attention? We never get this. Neighbors of the same cultural background complaining of any possible criminal issues.

 

[BlindBoo]

Not what I said at all. Most thinking people -- clearly democrats would be excluded - Would take note that the people yelling police actually ARE police. IF a banger were to yell police and all he was wearing was this hood colors, then may he rest in peace.

No knock warrants clearly violate the Constitutional Amendment protecting citizens against unreasonable searches and seizures.

 

[theHawk]

If you did something correctly there is no need to lie. Here we have the cops lying about what happened once again.

The man killed was not wanted, had no record and was legally armed. You are legally permitted to shoot people braking into your home which is what happened here.

We need to STOP no knock raids and I imagine things are going to get ugly if the police officers here are not held accountable.

Minneapolis police release body camera footage of fatal shooting of Black man, 22, during no-knock warrant

What a crock of shit. They announced themselves very loudly.

Criminal had a handgun and didn’t drop it.

Another roach exterminated, give the police a medal.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

He was holding a gun and taking the gun out from under the blanket. Should the police have waited until he fired first?

The police should not have burst into anyone's home, with guns drawn, and started shooting. They illegally entered this man's home, and assaulted him, without any vestige of just cause for doing so. This makes them the criminals.

The seriousness of their crime is made worse, by the fact that they committed it under color of authority.

Filth such as these give good cops a bad name.

These murderers need to face the death penalty.

 

[pknopp]

What a crock of shit. They announced themselves very loudly.

Criminal had a handgun and didn’t drop it.

Another roach exterminated, give the police a medal.

In every thread like this it doesn't take long for someone to come along and lie about what happened.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Police have a tough job. So there's a little collateral damage now and then.

In general, I agree, but in this case, there is simply no justification for what happened. If they didn't go there with a specific intent to murder Mr. Locke, then at the very best, their actions showed a depraved-heart indifference to the likelihood that their behavior would result in the unjustifiable death of an innocent man.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

You are legally permitted to shoot people breaking into your house right up until the second you hear, "Police, Police".

They are trying to split a red pubic hair on this one. The police were wrong for not announcing they were police BEFORE crossing the threshold, but they did announce AS THEY CROSSED the threshold.

Regardless, the moment you hear them shout Police, you stop.

It will be interesting to see what an investigation comes up with.

So, all a real criminal has to do, is yell “Police!” as it breaks into your home, and at that point, your right to defend yourself from it is nullified?

Bullshit!

I do not care what an intruder claims to be. If someone is breaking into your home, brandishing weapons, then you have an absolute right to assume that the intruder means to murder you, and to act accordingly.

In the very rare case that police have any sufficient justification to burst into anyone's home unannounced, they had better be damn sure that they are breaking into the right home, and understand and accept that the consequences for being wrong may be very serious, up to and including being justifiably shot and killed by the occupants of the home and/or being tried and convicted of murder if they end up shooting an innocent occupant because they were careless, as these dumbasses were in this case.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

What a crock of shit. They announced themselves very loudly.

After they broke into his apartment, while he was still asleep.

Criminal had a handgun and didn’t drop it.

He had no criminal record, and legally owned the gun that was in his possession.

He absolutely had a right to try to defend himself against armed criminals who had broken into his apartment. The fact that these criminals were police officers changes nothing.