Kerry: Putin is going to lose

[TemplarKormac]

 

[Antares]

Go Kerry... kick Putin's ass all the way back to Siberia.






Kerry condemns Russia's 'act of aggression' | MSNBC

Kerry declared Putin will come out of this ordeal the loser. “He’s going to lose on the international stage, Russia is going to lose, the Russian people are going to lose, and he’s going to lose all of the glow that came out of the Olympics, his $60 billion extravaganza.”

Lose on the "international stage"?

God Obama and Kerry are stupid.

Pooty will KILL people......he wants to protect those pipelines that go through the Ukraine....if anyone thinks that Putin cares about what anyone else in the World "thinks" they are simply stupid.

 

[The T]

 

[The T]

Let's take up a collection and send the asswipe America hater to wherever he will be happy...JUST NOT ANY of the US 50 States or territories.

How about an air drop into Siberia? He could tell them about how bad he had it here.

Fine with me. Just not HERE.

 

[georgephillip]

You are an idiot. The reason there are ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine today is because of the Holodomor you asshole. The Holodomor was the Russian controlled famine that killed 7.5 million Ukrainians in the Russian ethnic cleansing of the 1930's and allowed the settlement and colonization of eastern Ukraine by Russia. So, basicly, today's crisis is about the Soviet's benifiting from their murder of millions of Ukrainians 80 years ago.

Exactly, Einstein.
Stalin was responsible for the mass murder of millions of Ukrainians.
How did the survivors respond in 1941?

Uri Avnery:

"In my lifetime, Stalin murdered millions of Ukrainians by deliberate starvation.

"As a result, most Ukrainians welcomed the German Wehrmacht in 1941 as liberators.

"It could have been the beginning of a beautiful friendship, but unfortunately Hitler was determined to eradicate the Ukrainian 'Untermenschen', in order to integrate the Ukraine into the German Lebensraum."

Bullshit, "...most..." did not welcome the German Wehrmacht as liberators. 7 million served in the Soviet Army and problably 1.5 million lost their lives in that service. Millions of citizens were also murdered by the Nazi's. There were certainly Ukrainians that sided with the German occupation, including those who served in and for SS units, but the word "most" is just a statement that deserves the response of bullshit.

Why would I accept your definition of "most"?
Prove it or STFU

 

[georgephillip]

You are an idiot. The reason there are ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine today is because of the Holodomor you asshole. The Holodomor was the Russian controlled famine that killed 7.5 million Ukrainians in the Russian ethnic cleansing of the 1930's and allowed the settlement and colonization of eastern Ukraine by Russia. So, basicly, today's crisis is about the Soviet's benifiting from their murder of millions of Ukrainians 80 years ago.

Exactly, Einstein.
Stalin was responsible for the mass murder of millions of Ukrainians.
How did the survivors respond in 1941?

Uri Avnery:

"In my lifetime, Stalin murdered millions of Ukrainians by deliberate starvation.

"As a result, most Ukrainians welcomed the German Wehrmacht in 1941 as liberators.

"It could have been the beginning of a beautiful friendship, but unfortunately Hitler was determined to eradicate the Ukrainian 'Untermenschen', in order to integrate the Ukraine into the German Lebensraum."

You know, I'm not going to debate you about the "wonders" of communism. It's pointless. You've made up your mind and no one will change it.

I lived (and worked) in Moscow at the American Embassy from 1978 through 1982. Everyday I saw the Russian people - up close and personal. The people are wonderful. They stood patiently in bread lines each day waiting for their loaf of stale bread without complaint. Those that "might" have complained were beaten by the Police and hauled off.

I have personally talked with scores of Soviet politicians who only DREAMED of coming to the West. Privately, they told me of the horrors of "speaking out" in "Mother Russia" - at that time. The one thing that I have always regretted is that I wasn't in Berlin when the wall came down. I watched it on television and (literally) cried along with those tens of thousands of East Germans who were reunited with family that they hadn't seen in years.

You are an America hater. That's your choice. You conveniently forget the good that the United States has accomplished in the world. The only thing you want to dwell on are the mistakes. Again, your choice. I fought in Vietnam - I know full well how many young men were lost there- several were my friends. I also know how pointless the war in both Iraq and Afghanistan has been. However, rather than blame a country, I blame worthless politicians. The only thing that always makes me scratch my head about clowns, like yourself, is why you don't leave. You spew your hate at every chance, but you (apparently) don't have the balls to get off your ass and leave.

You hate this country, I get it. Now, rather than belabor the point, pack your little suitcase, buy an airline ticket and go to whatever paradise you THINK awaits you out there. You will NOT be missed, I assure you.

Except I don't hate this country or believe in the "wonders" of communism or capitalism, as you apparently do. I do hate political and economic elites (and their useful idiots in embassies) who think they have the right to murder, maim, and displace millions of innocent human beings to support their Empire. You sold out; I didn't. Don't let the door hit your fat ass on your way to "freedom."

Get it?

 

[RandallFlagg]

Exactly, Einstein.
Stalin was responsible for the mass murder of millions of Ukrainians.
How did the survivors respond in 1941?

Uri Avnery:

"In my lifetime, Stalin murdered millions of Ukrainians by deliberate starvation.

"As a result, most Ukrainians welcomed the German Wehrmacht in 1941 as liberators.

"It could have been the beginning of a beautiful friendship, but unfortunately Hitler was determined to eradicate the Ukrainian 'Untermenschen', in order to integrate the Ukraine into the German Lebensraum."

You know, I'm not going to debate you about the "wonders" of communism. It's pointless. You've made up your mind and no one will change it.

I lived (and worked) in Moscow at the American Embassy from 1978 through 1982. Everyday I saw the Russian people - up close and personal. The people are wonderful. They stood patiently in bread lines each day waiting for their loaf of stale bread without complaint. Those that "might" have complained were beaten by the Police and hauled off.

I have personally talked with scores of Soviet politicians who only DREAMED of coming to the West. Privately, they told me of the horrors of "speaking out" in "Mother Russia" - at that time. The one thing that I have always regretted is that I wasn't in Berlin when the wall came down. I watched it on television and (literally) cried along with those tens of thousands of East Germans who were reunited with family that they hadn't seen in years.

You are an America hater. That's your choice. You conveniently forget the good that the United States has accomplished in the world. The only thing you want to dwell on are the mistakes. Again, your choice. I fought in Vietnam - I know full well how many young men were lost there- several were my friends. I also know how pointless the war in both Iraq and Afghanistan has been. However, rather than blame a country, I blame worthless politicians. The only thing that always makes me scratch my head about clowns, like yourself, is why you don't leave. You spew your hate at every chance, but you (apparently) don't have the balls to get off your ass and leave.

You hate this country, I get it. Now, rather than belabor the point, pack your little suitcase, buy an airline ticket and go to whatever paradise you THINK awaits you out there. You will NOT be missed, I assure you.

Except I don't hate this country or believe in the "wonders" of communism or capitalism, as you apparently do. I do hate political and economic elites (and their useful idiots in embassies) who think they have the right to murder, maim, and displace millions of innocent human beings to support their Empire. You sold out; I didn't. Don't let the door hit your fat ass on your way to "freedom."

Get it?

Of course you hate this country. Get it? Good - now get out.

 

[Camp]

Exactly, Einstein.
Stalin was responsible for the mass murder of millions of Ukrainians.
How did the survivors respond in 1941?

Uri Avnery:

"In my lifetime, Stalin murdered millions of Ukrainians by deliberate starvation.

"As a result, most Ukrainians welcomed the German Wehrmacht in 1941 as liberators.

"It could have been the beginning of a beautiful friendship, but unfortunately Hitler was determined to eradicate the Ukrainian 'Untermenschen', in order to integrate the Ukraine into the German Lebensraum."

Bullshit, "...most..." did not welcome the German Wehrmacht as liberators. 7 million served in the Soviet Army and problably 1.5 million lost their lives in that service. Millions of citizens were also murdered by the Nazi's. There were certainly Ukrainians that sided with the German occupation, including those who served in and for SS units, but the word "most" is just a statement that deserves the response of bullshit.

Why would I accept your definition of "most"?
Prove it or STFU

No, I have decideded to not STFU and instead answer your question, challange or whatever. Most is a word. It means most. Look it up in the dictionary asshole. Is that clear enoough. Word=definition. Definition of word means meaning of word. Definition of word means what word means. What word means is what means word. I do not have skilled training or education in communticating with retarded people. Can someone help me out?

 

[Katzndogz]

Now that Putin has so obviously won how is Kerry going to transform it into a loss?

 

[Camp]

Now that Putin has so obviously won how is Kerry going to transform it into a loss?

Kerry will speak about how Moscos stock exchange has lost over 60 billion dollars and the Russian ruble continues to drop in value as investors panic over Russian economy. He will make plans with EU partners on how to bring increased energy products to Europe from non Russian sources and convince Russian clients that telling Russia fuck you is the way to go.

 

[Steinlight]

Now that Putin has so obviously won how is Kerry going to transform it into a loss?

Kerry will speak about how Moscos stock exchange has lost over 60 billion dollars and the Russian ruble continues to drop in value as investors panic over Russian economy. He will make plans with EU partners on how to bring increased energy products to Europe from non Russian sources and convince Russian clients that telling Russia fuck you is the way to go.

LOL. How have Kerry's "words" worked against Putin's actions in the past? If that is the barometer, that blue blooded sissy boy from Taxachusetts doesn't stand a chance.

 

[kidrocks]

Now that Putin has so obviously won how is Kerry going to transform it into a loss?

Now that you have declared Putin has "won", just what exactly has Putin "won"?

Be concise please. Thank you.

 

[Iceweasel]

Now that you have declared Putin has "won", just what exactly has Putin "won"?

Be concise please. Thank you.

Crimea. You're welcome.

 

[georgephillip]

Bullshit, "...most..." did not welcome the German Wehrmacht as liberators. 7 million served in the Soviet Army and problably 1.5 million lost their lives in that service. Millions of citizens were also murdered by the Nazi's. There were certainly Ukrainians that sided with the German occupation, including those who served in and for SS units, but the word "most" is just a statement that deserves the response of bullshit.

Why would I accept your definition of "most"?
Prove it or STFU

No, I have decideded to not STFU and instead answer your question, challange or whatever. Most is a word. It means most. Look it up in the dictionary asshole. Is that clear enoough. Word=definition. Definition of word means meaning of word. Definition of word means what word means. What word means is what means word. I do not have skilled training or education in communticating with retarded people. Can someone help me out?

"most [mohst] Show IPA
adjective superl. of much or many with more as compar.
1.
in the greatest quantity, amount, measure, degree, or number: to win the most votes.
2.
in the majority of instances: Most operations are successful.
3.
greatest, as in size or extent: the most talent.
noun
4.
the greatest quantity, amount, or degree; the utmost: The most I can hope for is a passing grade.
5.
the greatest number or the majority of a class specified: Most of his writing is rubbish.
6.
the greatest number: The most this room will seat is 150.
7.
the majority of persons: to be more sensitive than most..."

Most | Define Most at Dictionary.com

 

[kidrocks]

Now that you have declared Putin has "won", just what exactly has Putin "won"?

Be concise please. Thank you.

Crimea. You're welcome.

Wrong! Try again.

 

[Katzndogz]

Now that Putin has so obviously won how is Kerry going to transform it into a loss?

Kerry will speak about how Moscos stock exchange has lost over 60 billion dollars and the Russian ruble continues to drop in value as investors panic over Russian economy. He will make plans with EU partners on how to bring increased energy products to Europe from non Russian sources and convince Russian clients that telling Russia fuck you is the way to go.

If investors are panicking over Russia causing the ruble to drop, they are panicking in the US too. So far, for all of obama's taking his valuable vacation time to try to persuade EU partners to see it his way, he's failing big time. He's been unable to convince even Britian to go along with him.

While it would be possible to bring American energy to Europe, that would take increased energy production here and king obama is unwilling to do that. Part of obama's problem is that he has proved to be so unreliable and so untrustworthy that no one believes him anymore. Russia has already solidified its hold on Crimea, that won't be undone. The only loser is obama, and by extension, democrats.

 

[georgephillip]

Official White House spin and a Socialist translation:

"The White House has issued a statement on the Russian troop invasion of Crimea. Here, in part, is what they said along with a translation:

"White House statement: President Obama spoke for 90 minutes this afternoon with President Putin of Russia about the situation in Ukraine. President Obama expressed his deep concern over Russia’s clear violation of Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity, which is a breach of international law, including Russia’s obligations under the UN Charter, and of its 1997 military basing agreement with Ukraine, and which is inconsistent with the 1994 Budapest Memorandum and the Helsinki Final Act. The United States condemns Russia’s military intervention into Ukrainian territory.

"Translation: We condemn it, but there is nothing we can do about it. All of these international laws are irrelevant. They don’t apply to us any more than they do to you. The only law that really exists is the law of the jungle. Might makes right."

"White House Statement: The Ukrainian government has made clear its commitment to protect the rights of all Ukrainians and to abide by Ukraine’s international commitments, and we will continue to urge them to do so.

"Translation: As long as it suits us to do so, we will continue to ignore the influence of fascist forces within the new Ukrainian government, the beating of trade unionists, the fire-bombing of synagogues, the withdrawing of recognition of different languages, etc. As long as they honor their 'international commitments' – meaning paying their debts to the banks, the IMF, etc. – we don’t care about the rest."

Obama and Putin serve their oligarchs, the richest of the 1%, first and foremost.
The majority of Ukrainians, Americans, and Russians will continue to see their pensions pilfered, social services slashed, and military spending increased to fatten the bottom lines of their richest 1%.

Imagining any Democrat OR Republican President departing from the War Party platform is as likely as Obama meeting with Putin and Assad in Damascus to discuss peace in Palestine, Iran and Ukraine.

Obama statement on Ukraine | oaklandsocialist

 

[mudwhistle]

Obama's foreign policy.........

 

[Camp]

Now that Putin has so obviously won how is Kerry going to transform it into a loss?

Kerry will speak about how Moscos stock exchange has lost over 60 billion dollars and the Russian ruble continues to drop in value as investors panic over Russian economy. He will make plans with EU partners on how to bring increased energy products to Europe from non Russian sources and convince Russian clients that telling Russia fuck you is the way to go.

If investors are panicking over Russia causing the ruble to drop, they are panicking in the US too. So far, for all of obama's taking his valuable vacation time to try to persuade EU partners to see it his way, he's failing big time. He's been unable to convince even Britian to go along with him.

While it would be possible to bring American energy to Europe, that would take increased energy production here and king obama is unwilling to do that. Part of obama's problem is that he has proved to be so unreliable and so untrustworthy that no one believes him anymore. Russia has already solidified its hold on Crimea, that won't be undone. The only loser is obama, and by extension, democrats.

Investors aren't panicking in the US the way they are in Russia. Our markets and dollar value have stayed level and even gone up. The Moscow exchange lost over 60 billion dollars and the ruble has not recovered from it's drop down to about a US quarter (.27). The downtrend in ruble halted and the Rusian market leveled and even made some gains after announcements on the 5th indicated a backing off on threats against troops entering eastern Ukraine.

 

[paulitician]

Putin lose yet?...Nope. Kerry is a bumbling buffoon. And so is his Communist Organizer boss.