Kerry signs U.N. Arms Trade Treaty

[OKTexas]

So Kerry signs a treaty that requires the exporting country be provided information on the end user and claims no infringement on constitutional rights. Give me a freaking break.

Kerry signs U.N. Arms Trade Treaty, says won't harm U.S. rights

Your thoughts?

 

[Moonglow]

What Constitutional rights could be infringed?

 

[OKTexas]

What Constitutional rights could be infringed?

How about our right to privacy, if you buy a firearm made in another country the treaty requires the exporting country be given your personal information, as the end user.

 

[Moonglow]

What Constitutional rights could be infringed?

How about our right to privacy, if you buy a firearm made in another country the treaty requires the exporting country be given your personal information, as the end user.

Right to privacy has been dead since Reagan and the War on Drugs...Same with due process...

 

[Mr. H.]

I read the article and have no clue as to the NRA's beef.

Another reason why I never joined.

 

[browsing deer]

usual back door methods of the 0bama people. treaties have to be approved by 2/3 majority It isn't going anywhere

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Right to privacy has been dead since Reagan and the War on Drugs...Same with due process...

Long before that. These morons are just worried that if they have to register their guns we'll know where they are, which we already do. The registry just makes it easier to figure out how big a drone to use when they start their own private war...

 

[Mr. H.]

Right to privacy has been dead since Reagan and the War on Drugs...Same with due process...

Long before that. These morons are just worried that if they have to register their guns we'll know where they are, which we already do. The registry just makes it easier to figure out how big a drone to use when they start their own private war...

Exactly how do we know where are the gun owners in this country?

 

[Moonglow]

Right to privacy has been dead since Reagan and the War on Drugs...Same with due process...

Long before that. These morons are just worried that if they have to register their guns we'll know where they are, which we already do. The registry just makes it easier to figure out how big a drone to use when they start their own private war...

I always buy mine on the sly....

 

[OKTexas]

What Constitutional rights could be infringed?

How about our right to privacy, if you buy a firearm made in another country the treaty requires the exporting country be given your personal information, as the end user.

Right to privacy has been dead since Reagan and the War on Drugs...Same with due process...

Well congress says it will be DOA, no way in hell will they get 67 votes to ratify it, even dems are coming out against it.

 

[Mr. H.]

Right to privacy has been dead since Reagan and the War on Drugs...Same with due process...

Long before that. These morons are just worried that if they have to register their guns we'll know where they are, which we already do. The registry just makes it easier to figure out how big a drone to use when they start their own private war...

I always buy mine on the sly....

You sly little motherscratcher.

 

[Rotagilla]

What Constitutional rights could be infringed?

How about our right to privacy, if you buy a firearm made in another country the treaty requires the exporting country be given your personal information, as the end user.

you'll NEVER get a straight answer out of that one. Save the effort.

 

[Moonglow]

Right to privacy has been dead since Reagan and the War on Drugs...Same with due process...

Long before that. These morons are just worried that if they have to register their guns we'll know where they are, which we already do. The registry just makes it easier to figure out how big a drone to use when they start their own private war...

I always buy mine on the sly....

You sly little motherscratcher.

Or have my uncle make me juan...

 

[KissMy]

Build your own gun receiver & problem is solved. 95% finished receivers are readily available.

 

[Moonglow]

What Constitutional rights could be infringed?

How about our right to privacy, if you buy a firearm made in another country the treaty requires the exporting country be given your personal information, as the end user.

you'll NEVER get a straight answer out of that one. Save the effort.

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[Moonglow]

Build your own gun receiver & problem is solved. 95% finished receivers are readily available.

No kidding.....Just like bombs...

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

So Kerry signs a treaty that requires the exporting country be provided information on the end user and claims no infringement on constitutional rights. Give me a freaking break.

Kerry signs U.N. Arms Trade Treaty, says won't harm U.S. rights

Your thoughts?

You're wrong.

Your opinion is motivated by partisanism, completely devoid of the facts.

From your link.

'The practical implications for U.S. arms manufacturers are likely to be limited since, as Kerry noted, the United States already has in place the kind of strict export controls for weapons that are outlined in the treaty.

"We are talking about the kind of export controls that for decades have not diminished one iota our ability in the United States as Americans to exercise our rights under the constitution," he said.

"This treaty will not diminish anyone's freedom, in fact the treaty recognizes the freedom of both individuals and states to obtain, possess and use arms for legitimate purposes," Kerry said after signing the treaty.

"Make no mistake, we would never think about supporting a treaty that is inconsistent with the rights of Americans, the rights of American citizens to be able to exercise their guaranteed rights under our constitution," he said.'

The treaty has no bearing whatsoever on American citizens, their fundamental right to possess firearms, and Second Amendment jurisprudence – any claims that the treaty will 'jeopardize' the freedoms of Americans is a lie.

 

[KissMy]

So Kerry signs a treaty that requires the exporting country be provided information on the end user and claims no infringement on constitutional rights. Give me a freaking break.

Kerry signs U.N. Arms Trade Treaty, says won't harm U.S. rights

Your thoughts?

You're wrong.

Your opinion is motivated by partisanism, completely devoid of the facts.

From your link.

'The practical implications for U.S. arms manufacturers are likely to be limited since, as Kerry noted, the United States already has in place the kind of strict export controls for weapons that are outlined in the treaty.

"We are talking about the kind of export controls that for decades have not diminished one iota our ability in the United States as Americans to exercise our rights under the constitution," he said.

"This treaty will not diminish anyone's freedom, in fact the treaty recognizes the freedom of both individuals and states to obtain, possess and use arms for legitimate purposes," Kerry said after signing the treaty.

"Make no mistake, we would never think about supporting a treaty that is inconsistent with the rights of Americans, the rights of American citizens to be able to exercise their guaranteed rights under our constitution," he said.'

The treaty has no bearing whatsoever on American citizens, their fundamental right to possess firearms, and Second Amendment jurisprudence – any claims that the treaty will 'jeopardize' the freedoms of Americans is a lie.

It's hard to say if the US constitution guaranteed gun owners the right to not register weapons. This treaty may have an impact.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Right to privacy has been dead since Reagan and the War on Drugs...Same with due process...

Long before that. These morons are just worried that if they have to register their guns we'll know where they are, which we already do. The registry just makes it easier to figure out how big a drone to use when they start their own private war...

Exactly how do we know where are the gun owners in this country?

You buy them, and there are background checks, and credit cards, and ammo purchases, and shooting range charges, and gun club memberships, and gun magazines, and things for guns bought at big box stores and Amazon. The FBI has a better list of what you paid for than you do...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Right to privacy has been dead since Reagan and the War on Drugs...Same with due process...

Long before that. These morons are just worried that if they have to register their guns we'll know where they are, which we already do. The registry just makes it easier to figure out how big a drone to use when they start their own private war...

I always buy mine on the sly....

That's what many believe, and they don't mind...