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You're right, Contumacious. The Internet has replaced lying news media. If we want to know something about our government, the British papers already have the scoop, and we no longer depend on the lying leftist press to decide for us what corrupt thing is foisted against the people by ambitious women and men in Congress who have forgotten the very people who voted them in to do the nation's business.John Kerry: 'This Little Thing Called the Internet ... Makes It Much Harder to Govern'
"Well, folks," he said, "ever since the end of the Cold War, forces have been unleashed that were tamped down for centuries by dictators, and that was complicated further by this little thing called the internet and the ability of people everywhere to communicate instantaneously and to have more information coming at them in one day than most people can process in months or a year -"
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Oh poor John, the Internet has made it SO much harder for him and his miscreant pals to fool all of the people, all of the time. I'd suggest sending him a purple heart to honor his suffering but ......
The INTERNETS is now officially the 4th branch of government. We shall not be silenced. There are no longer taboo subjects.
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The internet is the last bastion of pure democracy, where people can communicate without government censorship or filters.You don't have a right to the internet. You have to show an ID to buy beer, so you should have to produce a DHS-approved Internet ID before getting online. It will make things easier for the NSA and the world safer for democracy. Anyone against democracy is a commie fag hell bent on bringing down the internet. Millions of illegal aliens are using the internet to tell each other how to use our government welfare system. We need to keep our internet secure. Internet ID now!
Except that is NOT what you said. You did not say that half the information out there disagreed, you said that it (or more precisely that a lot) was WRONG.Do YOU even read what you write there sport?
Again?
From a sovereign INDIVIDUAL AMERICAN CITIZEN defending his Life, Liberty, and persuit of happiness without the Imperial FED telling ME it's wrong?
YOU=DISMISSED.
GET IT?
Um, no. I don't "get" whatever it is that you're talking about. It's clearly not what I'm talking about.
My point is that from whichever side you're on, half the information out there disagrees with you.
That is a massive difference. Disagrees is a matter of opinion, wrong is a matter of fact.
Nothing I said contradicts what you're saying.This is, for lack of a better term, horse manure. There is no such thing as too much information when it comes to politics. There is also no more /misinformation out there than at any other time. The only real difference between now and before is that I have the ability to vet that information. Before the internet, everyone essentially had to take the news for fact and the opinions of those around them had no real way to be measured as truth. This generation, by a MASSIVE margin, has the ability to be far more informed than any previously. Not only do I have access to massive amounts of data but I also have access to various was to VERIFY that data. The average politically informed person 30 years ago did not know a fraction of the things that I know about the government now. I have an app on my phone that details every single bill that goes before congress, websites that detail the actual expenditures of the government to the last dollar, official Whitehouse links that tell me every single EO that has been signed and a thousand other things I can view to get real and solid information. Something that was completely unheard of 20 years ago.In a sense, he has a strong point.
Too much information (particularly when a lot of it is wrong) does make it make it harder to govern - or function at all, when it comes down to it.
Has anyone ever heard the expression "A man with a watch knows what time it is, a man with two watches is never sure."?
To say the we have access to more information that is wrong is simply leaving out the VERY important fact that we have access to more information period and, far more important, more ways to vet that information.
No, the exact opposite of what you imply is true, before we had FAR more access to incorrect information as there simply was no way to verify that it was correct. Now we have the means.
Yes, it's valid -- in totalitarian regimes.Then I guess people will be exposed to "wrong" information.
Freedom is a GOOD thing.
People have always been exposed to "wrong" information. The Internet just makes it easier to spread.
And of course, freedom is a "good" thing. That doesn't change the validity of Kerry's statement though.
And that is entirely irrelevant. I dont have time to guess randomly what some unidentified person on the far-whatever would state about the internet. The is no point in that at all."Wrong" is often a matter of perspective, not fact. But you're getting hung up on something unimportant. It doesn't matter what you call it - what I was referring to is that people on the far-right and people on the far-left will agree with the following statement:
"Much of the information found on the internet is wrong".
But they won't agree with what that "wrong" information is.
Everything you are saying contradicts that as covered by the response to the next statement.Nothing I said contradicts what you're saying.
No, the exact opposite of what you imply is true, before we had FAR more access to incorrect information as there simply was no way to verify that it was correct. Now we have the means.
What do you think I was implying?
It does change the validity of your assessment of his statement. Here you imply that it has something to do with wrong information yet that was not in Kerrys statement at all. My statement however completely contradicts the core Idea that you have been pressing that people are exposed to more wrong information. That is false.People have always been exposed to "wrong" information. The Internet just makes it easier to spread.
And of course, freedom is a "good" thing. That doesn't change the validity of Kerry's statement though.
Again with the too much information meme the opposite of all my statements.In a sense, he has a strong point.
Too much information (particularly when a lot of it is wrong) does make it make it harder to govern - or function at all, when it comes down to it.
Has anyone ever heard the expression "A man with a watch knows what time it is, a man with two watches is never sure."?
And here we have more.Last thing politicians want is an informed populace...
True. But I think in the end, misinformation is a bigger problem.
OP- ..."FOR DICTATORS", hater dupes. WTF is wrong with you people.
And Gore never said he invented the internet, fools.
snopes.com: Al Gore Invented the Internet
He is CLEARLY talking about American politics. Even worse, the dictator comment was talking about how those forces that are making governing harder were kept in check BECAUSE of dictatorship:It makes it much harder to govern, makes it much harder to organize people, much harder to find the common interest," said Kerry, "and that is complicated by a rise of sectarianism and religious extremism that is prepared to employ violent means to impose on other people a way of thinking and a way of living that is completely contrary to everything the United States of America has ever stood for. So we need to keep in mind what our goals are and how complicated this world is that were operating in.
ever since the end of the Cold War, forces have been unleashed that were tamped down for centuries by dictators.
