LA Teachers Strike: $73K Is Not Enough

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LA Teachers Strike: $73K Is Not Enough

In LA it probably isn't. I make way more than that and if we moved to LA we'd definitely struggle given the cost of living.

Socialism is very expensive.

 

[Weatherman2020]

A few weeks ago I looked at a local historical document that was an oath of loyalty to the American revolution. This was in Virginia in what was well into rural areas under threat of Indian attacks all of the time. These 'hicks' had perfect cursive handwriting, and every one of the hundred or so signatures was written perfectly legible. Today kids can't read or write cursive, tell what time it is, or even find America on a world map.

People today do not need to to read or write cursive. Other than my signature, the last time I wrote in cursive was about 1970-something because it was required.

Handwriting is a physical task that has absolutely no bearing on intelligence or education. My mother had beautiful cursive handwriting and a 7th grade education acquired during the depression. My daughter could not write a sentence in cursive today if you held a gun to her head!

My mother was a stay at home mom because she simply did not have the education to work outside the home. My daughter is an officer in the United States Army currently deployed overseas, with a high school diploma, a GED, and a published work of fiction to her name.

Who is better educated? If you can't figure that out, I'll bet you have beautiful handwriting.

Your own understanding of education is hysterical, not historical.

Cursive was not required to communicate in 1775 either, but people learned it to make themselves better.

There is a reason why every "man on the street let's ask basic questions to people on the street" video features people under 35. Younger people are much less educated.

No. They are not less educated, because they were taught. They simply do not see the need to retain information. You are simply proving your own ignorance every time you make a baseless comment.

You commentary about literacy in backwoods Virginia in 1775 is also a testament to to your historical ignorance. Which schools did these people attend and who taught them? Many sources list the literacy rate at about 60% at best.

Even Abraham Lincoln was mostly self-educated in the early 1800s because he lived in the backwoods of Kentucky, Indiana, and Illinois during his formative years.

Not retaining means not educating.

If you’re going to argue with that our discussion is over.

Really? You think that is true?

How about I give you a math problem from a Pre-Calculus class? Could you do it?

What if I asked you the date that Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated? Could you tell me that?

Probably not, because you did not retain the information because you do not use it. I guess, according to you, that means you were never educated.

How about I use flash cards of history at 30 per sec and make you watch it for 8 hours.

Not remembering what day Christopher Columbus set sail is one thing, not being able to name one nation on a world map is another.

 

[Weatherman2020]

LA is hundreds of different areas costing different amounts to live. Median income in some areas is $200K. Some areas drop down to $60K. Or $40K. I suppose rents must track funds?

You may be able to rent in Garbage Grove or Santa Ana for $1300? But you wont like it depending on your race and status.


RANK NEIGHBORHOOD MEDIAN INCOME
1 Bel-Air $207,938
2 Hidden Hills $203,199
3 Rolling Hills $184,777
4 Beverly Crest $169,282
5 Pacific Palisades $168,008
6 Palos Verdes Estates $167,344
7 San Marino $158,855
8 La Cañada Flintridge $148,996
9 Rolling Hills Estates $145,628
10 Malibu $138,215
11 La Habra Heights $137,034
12 Manhattan Beach $136,481
13 Unincorporated Santa Monica Mountains $132,997
14 Rancho Palos Verdes $128,321
15 Westlake Village $126,550
16 Calabasas

Median Income Ranking - Mapping L.A. - Los Angeles Times

The costs are due to socialist regulations. Two teachers would be median in those exclusive communities.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

People today do not need to to read or write cursive. Other than my signature, the last time I wrote in cursive was about 1970-something because it was required.

Handwriting is a physical task that has absolutely no bearing on intelligence or education. My mother had beautiful cursive handwriting and a 7th grade education acquired during the depression. My daughter could not write a sentence in cursive today if you held a gun to her head!

My mother was a stay at home mom because she simply did not have the education to work outside the home. My daughter is an officer in the United States Army currently deployed overseas, with a high school diploma, a GED, and a published work of fiction to her name.

Who is better educated? If you can't figure that out, I'll bet you have beautiful handwriting.

Your own understanding of education is hysterical, not historical.

Cursive was not required to communicate in 1775 either, but people learned it to make themselves better.

There is a reason why every "man on the street let's ask basic questions to people on the street" video features people under 35. Younger people are much less educated.

No. They are not less educated, because they were taught. They simply do not see the need to retain information. You are simply proving your own ignorance every time you make a baseless comment.

You commentary about literacy in backwoods Virginia in 1775 is also a testament to to your historical ignorance. Which schools did these people attend and who taught them? Many sources list the literacy rate at about 60% at best.

Even Abraham Lincoln was mostly self-educated in the early 1800s because he lived in the backwoods of Kentucky, Indiana, and Illinois during his formative years.

Not retaining means not educating.

If you’re going to argue with that our discussion is over.

Really? You think that is true?

How about I give you a math problem from a Pre-Calculus class? Could you do it?

What if I asked you the date that Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated? Could you tell me that?

Probably not, because you did not retain the information because you do not use it. I guess, according to you, that means you were never educated.

How about I use flash cards of history at 30 per sec and make you watch it for 8 hours.

Not remembering what day Christopher Columbus set sail is one thing, not being able to name one nation on a world map is another.

OK, now you have slipped from stupid to nonsense.

How many people do you honestly think answered those questions incorrectly? The ones who got it right are never shown. I can name about 95% of the countries in the world. Can you? I just cannot remember where I left my ID card sometimes!

 

[Weatherman2020]

Cursive was not required to communicate in 1775 either, but people learned it to make themselves better.

There is a reason why every "man on the street let's ask basic questions to people on the street" video features people under 35. Younger people are much less educated.

No. They are not less educated, because they were taught. They simply do not see the need to retain information. You are simply proving your own ignorance every time you make a baseless comment.

You commentary about literacy in backwoods Virginia in 1775 is also a testament to to your historical ignorance. Which schools did these people attend and who taught them? Many sources list the literacy rate at about 60% at best.

Even Abraham Lincoln was mostly self-educated in the early 1800s because he lived in the backwoods of Kentucky, Indiana, and Illinois during his formative years.

Not retaining means not educating.

If you’re going to argue with that our discussion is over.

Really? You think that is true?

How about I give you a math problem from a Pre-Calculus class? Could you do it?

What if I asked you the date that Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated? Could you tell me that?

Probably not, because you did not retain the information because you do not use it. I guess, according to you, that means you were never educated.

How about I use flash cards of history at 30 per sec and make you watch it for 8 hours.

Not remembering what day Christopher Columbus set sail is one thing, not being able to name one nation on a world map is another.

OK, now you have slipped from stupid to nonsense.

How many people do you honestly think answered those questions incorrectly? The ones who got it right are never shown. I can name about 95% of the countries in the world. Can you? I just cannot remember where I left my ID card sometimes!

Why did LA eliminate the High School competency test to graduate?

 

[OldLady]

LA Teachers Strike: $73K Is Not Enough

In LA it probably isn't. I make way more than that and if we moved to LA we'd definitely struggle given the cost of living.

depends on were you live.....the wealthy coastal areas and some inland areas it may just be getting by....but anywhere else you would be living fairly good.......

Yes, but in those "anywhere else" places, teachers aren't paid as much, either.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

LA is hundreds of different areas costing different amounts to live. Median income in some areas is $200K. Some areas drop down to $60K. Or $40K. I suppose rents must track funds?

You may be able to rent in Garbage Grove or Santa Ana for $1300? But you wont like it depending on your race and status.


RANK NEIGHBORHOOD MEDIAN INCOME
1 Bel-Air $207,938
2 Hidden Hills $203,199
3 Rolling Hills $184,777
4 Beverly Crest $169,282
5 Pacific Palisades $168,008
6 Palos Verdes Estates $167,344
7 San Marino $158,855
8 La Cañada Flintridge $148,996
9 Rolling Hills Estates $145,628
10 Malibu $138,215
11 La Habra Heights $137,034
12 Manhattan Beach $136,481
13 Unincorporated Santa Monica Mountains $132,997
14 Rancho Palos Verdes $128,321
15 Westlake Village $126,550
16 Calabasas

Median Income Ranking - Mapping L.A. - Los Angeles Times

The costs are due to socialist regulations. Two teachers would be median in those exclusive communities.

Why two teachers? Is there a requirement for teachers to marry other teachers?

My wife was not a teacher. She worked in a call center making far less than I did to start, and then gained on me every year so much that we were making about the same amount when I retired.

 

[OldLady]

I googled careers requiring a Masters Degree and then looked at the average salaries. $73,000 is in the ballpark for a profession that requires an investment in five years of college. I agree that L.A.'s cost of living is what is causing the problem here.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

No. They are not less educated, because they were taught. They simply do not see the need to retain information. You are simply proving your own ignorance every time you make a baseless comment.

You commentary about literacy in backwoods Virginia in 1775 is also a testament to to your historical ignorance. Which schools did these people attend and who taught them? Many sources list the literacy rate at about 60% at best.

Even Abraham Lincoln was mostly self-educated in the early 1800s because he lived in the backwoods of Kentucky, Indiana, and Illinois during his formative years.

Not retaining means not educating.

If you’re going to argue with that our discussion is over.

Really? You think that is true?

How about I give you a math problem from a Pre-Calculus class? Could you do it?

What if I asked you the date that Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated? Could you tell me that?

Probably not, because you did not retain the information because you do not use it. I guess, according to you, that means you were never educated.

How about I use flash cards of history at 30 per sec and make you watch it for 8 hours.

Not remembering what day Christopher Columbus set sail is one thing, not being able to name one nation on a world map is another.

OK, now you have slipped from stupid to nonsense.

How many people do you honestly think answered those questions incorrectly? The ones who got it right are never shown. I can name about 95% of the countries in the world. Can you? I just cannot remember where I left my ID card sometimes!

Why did LA eliminate the High School competency test to graduate?

Have you ever taken a test in a language you don't speak or read?

I had many students in Florida that were very good academically in every area but reading. They simply could not pass a test written in English only because it was a second language. They received a certificate of completion instead of a high school diploma.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I googled careers requiring a Masters Degree and then looked at the average salaries. $73,000 is in the ballpark for a profession that requires an investment in five years of college. I agree that L.A.'s cost of living is what is causing the problem here.

Where do you get 5 years? My undergraduate degree took 5 year! My teacher certification was another 2 years and another 2 and a half for a Master's.

 

[karpenter]

Publik Skroowls Need Mo' Munny !!

I Don't Know How Much They Get Paid
But It's Not Enough
Just Ask 'Em

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Publik Skroowls Need Mo' Munny !!

...to pay teachers a living wage, as the libtards like to claim everyone needs. Do you agree?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I guess in fly over country, $73 thousand could be considered a lot of money.

But in a modern, advanced region it’s really not.

For working 180 days?

Who gave you the stupid idea that teachers work 180 days?

Students go for 180 days. I just Did the math

 

[Weatherman2020]

LA Teachers Strike: $73K Is Not Enough

In LA it probably isn't. I make way more than that and if we moved to LA we'd definitely struggle given the cost of living.

depends on were you live.....the wealthy coastal areas and some inland areas it may just be getting by....but anywhere else you would be living fairly good.......

Yes, but in those "anywhere else" places, teachers aren't paid as much, either.

My SoCal school district had an opening for a teacher. Over 300 qualified applications were received.

Teacher compensation is too high.

 

[Weatherman2020]

LA is hundreds of different areas costing different amounts to live. Median income in some areas is $200K. Some areas drop down to $60K. Or $40K. I suppose rents must track funds?

You may be able to rent in Garbage Grove or Santa Ana for $1300? But you wont like it depending on your race and status.


RANK NEIGHBORHOOD MEDIAN INCOME
1 Bel-Air $207,938
2 Hidden Hills $203,199
3 Rolling Hills $184,777
4 Beverly Crest $169,282
5 Pacific Palisades $168,008
6 Palos Verdes Estates $167,344
7 San Marino $158,855
8 La Cañada Flintridge $148,996
9 Rolling Hills Estates $145,628
10 Malibu $138,215
11 La Habra Heights $137,034
12 Manhattan Beach $136,481
13 Unincorporated Santa Monica Mountains $132,997
14 Rancho Palos Verdes $128,321
15 Westlake Village $126,550
16 Calabasas

Median Income Ranking - Mapping L.A. - Los Angeles Times

The costs are due to socialist regulations. Two teachers would be median in those exclusive communities.

Why two teachers? Is there a requirement for teachers to marry other teachers?

My wife was not a teacher. She worked in a call center making far less than I did to start, and then gained on me every year so much that we were making about the same amount when I retired.

Two teachers puts the household into an above average household income.

Now why did LA eliminate the High School competency test to graduate?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I guess in fly over country, $73 thousand could be considered a lot of money.

But in a modern, advanced region it’s really not.

For working 180 days?

Who gave you the stupid idea that teachers work 180 days?

Students go for 180 days. I just Did the math

So you think there teachers only work when the students are there?

 

[Weatherman2020]

I guess in fly over country, $73 thousand could be considered a lot of money.

But in a modern, advanced region it’s really not.

For working 180 days?

Who gave you the stupid idea that teachers work 180 days?

Students go for 180 days. I just Did the math

So you think there teachers only work when the students are there?

How is it a teacher can call in sick every Monday for over a decade and cannot be fired?

 

[theHawk]

It gets better:

Let’s begin with the makeup of the school district: It boasts a $7.52 billion budget and more than 60,000 employees, including about 26,000 teachers, with the average annual salary being $73,000. While employment has gone up 16% since 2004, enrollment has dropped 10% in the same period.

According to the latest available data, California school funding surged by nearly 10% from 2015 to 2016. If you examine a five-year period (2011 to 2016), school funding in the state is up a whopping 26%. Governor Gavin Newsom (D-CA) has further proposed the “largest ever investment” in the LAUSD.

Plus, the district already offered LAUSD educators a pay raise of 3% this year and another 3% in 2020. It was rejected.

But the school district can’t afford another pay hike. Next year, LAUSD will have a $422 million budget deficit, mainly because employee pension and health care costs represent a great portion of the budget – they will account for more than half within 10 years. Overall, it has $5.1 billion more in liabilities than in assets and another $15 billion in unfunded health care benefit liabilities for retirees and current workers.

LA Teachers Strike: 73K Is Not Enough.

So if you want to know why teachers can’t get a pay raise, it’s because of teachers.

Plus half their students are probably from illegal alien families, not paying any taxes for schools.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

LA Teachers Strike: $73K Is Not Enough

In LA it probably isn't. I make way more than that and if we moved to LA we'd definitely struggle given the cost of living.

depends on were you live.....the wealthy coastal areas and some inland areas it may just be getting by....but anywhere else you would be living fairly good.......

Yes, but in those "anywhere else" places, teachers aren't paid as much, either.

My SoCal school district had an opening for a teacher. Over 300 qualified applications were received.

Teacher compensation is too high.

Anecdotal information is not data. How undereducated are you?

Even if that were true, once those applicants get the low-down on what the job entails for that sum of money, they might not want the job. Tell me, are all teacher positions in your district requiring applicants be bilingual?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I guess in fly over country, $73 thousand could be considered a lot of money.

But in a modern, advanced region it’s really not.

For working 180 days?

Who gave you the stupid idea that teachers work 180 days?

Students go for 180 days. I just Did the math

So you think there teachers only work when the students are there?

How is it a teacher can call in sick every Monday for over a decade and cannot be fired?

They can't. You are lying.