Laws I Would Enact in an Officially Christian United States Government

[Mr Natural]

Let's say I developed artificial intelligence and made trillions of dollars which would get me the power to control everything. I'd enact these changes in a heartbeat, and I wouldn't ask questions. We would officially become a Christian nation and would eradicate atheism from all government policy. It would be the greatest service I could do for my fellow man.

Dream on!

 

[AsherN]

Only the irreligious would object to a government whose laws don't violate Christianity. Christianity is perfect. Jesus' teachings are perfect. The teachings of Jesus' church, the Roman Catholic Church are perfect. Anything that violates those teachings is wrong and bad for the citizenry.

I'm religious. I'm an observant Jew. I would absolutelt object to the country being ruled unr Xtian laws. I would object the country being ruled under ANY religious law.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Only the irreligious would object to a government whose laws don't violate Christianity.

BackAgain wrote: I assume many adherents of Islam would say the same of their religion and insist upon an Islamic based theocracy

NFBW wrote: It is problematic that Mashmont ‘s proposal is racist and it is only achievable if predominantly white American Catholics join political forces with white Protestsnt Evangelical Christian nationalists based on the fact that he is intolerant and is intoxicated by hearing ONLY his own words. . . . FIRST COUSIN to GOD Mashmont (1) has denied Biden and all the sinners, including black and brown non-white Catholic, Protestant, Muslim and every other religion known to humankind who voted for him, to the SUITABLE RELIGIOUS ORDER that he had designed for us, (2) His agenda is based on going back to the golden Christian Age of Leave it to Beaver which predated the Civil Rights Act, Integration and the life and death of Reverend Martin Luther King (3) he blames a black operated peaceful protest movement BLM for all the criminal violence of last summer (4) There is only one non-Catholic sect or denomination that is deemed SUITABLE to produce members worthy of governing in Mashmont ’s REFORMED CHRISTIAN AMERICA . White Nationalistic evangelical Christians of the 3G variety - GOD GUTS and GUNS Holy Trinity.

Even with the merging of SUITABLE WHITE Catholics and SUITABLE WHITE EVANGELICALS into the Republican Party Under Trump it was not enough to give Trump a second term. And because both sects know the truth that their churched white memberships respectively are dwindling and have been in rapid decline during the last decade There is not a snowball’ chances in hell that @Masmint’s proposal is going anywhere if the Constitution and free and fair access to the voting booth is involved. That’s why we saw Trump’s attempts to overturn the election from within and the God Guns and Guts Trump voters attacked the Capitol on Jan6. They want power any way they van get it because they fanatically believe they are serving their God. 22FEB04-POST#0343

 

[Mashmont]

I'm religious. I'm an observant Jew. I would absolutelt object to the country being ruled unr Xtian laws. I would object the country being ruled under ANY religious law.

Which laws I listed in the OP do you oppose?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

I'm an observant Jew. I would absolutelt object to the country being ruled unr Xtian laws. I would object the country being ruled under ANY religious law.

Mashmont asked: Which laws I listed in the OP do you oppose?

I would say any unconstitutional Law DJT would sign anyway.

NFBW wrote: Most Jewish Americans support BLM and vote DEMOCRATIC. - I don’t have to walk a Mile in Rabbi Jason Kimelman-Block’s shoes because I agree with him. You and @Correll should quit walking in Steve Bannon’s GOP alt-right, anti-Semitic, in TRUMP’s GOP SHOES and that will help America be a better place. 21NOV21-POST#418

“”” At Thursday’s event, Rabbi Jason Kimelman-Block, director of Bend the Arc Jewish Action, said Trump had “mounted an assault on our most fundamental values as Jews and as Americans.”

Jewish Groups Help Collect 1M Signatures Opposing Steve Bannon Appointment

“Trump has invited promoters of white nationalist and anti-Semitic views and rhetoric, like Steve Bannon, into his inner circle, unacceptable behavior from anyone seeking to unite and lead our country,” Kimelman-Block said. “””

 

[AsherN]

Which laws I listed in the OP do you oppose?

All of them. They are repressive.

 

[Moonglow]

Here are a few beneficial changes that would be made under a Christian United States government. So many problems would vanish overnight with this legislation. Many more would reduce over time. There could be more. These were just a few things I thought of initially. Really common sense stuff, basically a return to 1950s television, an era when families were stronger and children became independent earlier, and societal norms opposed sex outside marriage. A time when top shows were Donna Reed and Leave it to Beaver. A time when it was the norm to attend church, there were the most priests and sisters and Catholic schools in history.

This could be a reality, folks, if enough of us think about it, work towards it, and pray hard. They never though Roe v Wade would fall, and now look what is happening, so it CAN be done!


In the Schools:
Christian/Catholic sexual morality taught from the earliest grades:
1. Human lives are of supreme importance. Animals are subordinate,
2. Sex is only permissible through marriage
3. Birth control will not be discussed, nor will condoms be distributed in the schools.
4. Sex education would be replaced with sensible teaching on dating which would include recommendations of:
..... a. Relatively early curfew times
..... b. No passionate kissing prior to marriage
.....c. Emphasis on getting to know the other person
.....d. Duggar-style side hugs, rather than frontal.

Ten Commandments, crosses, and crucifixes may be displayed.
School prayer allowed and encouraged.
Christmas may be celebrated. Christian themed decorations may be used
Christian-themed Christmas plays may be performed.
Racist CRT banned.
Prominent Americans returned to the history books. Lives of the greatest canonized saints would be added in order to inspire children.
Christian schools would be strengthened.
All leftwing/ Marxist propaganda removed from schools and universities. Overt Marxists teachers would either reform or be dismissed.
No alcohol allowed in university dorms which house underaged students. (You might be amazed this is allowed in many or most freshman dorms).


In movies and television:

• Nudity is banned.
• Depictions of sex outside marriage banned
• Foul language banned
• Graphic physical harm depictions banned
• Only nuclear family depictions: Parents married.
• Depictions of cohabitation banned.
• Gay sex acts are banned.

In media:
No legislation may be pushed by a news outlet that violates Christian moral teaching. Abortion, rioting, extra rights for gays or trans, pitting women against men may not be advocated. Basically any promotion of the issues Marxist atheists use to divide and undermine the country will be banned.

In commerce and law:
Pornography banned.
Abortion mills illegal.
Mexico City Policy made permanent.
Most government domestic programs will be shut down, and a private sharing program would be established where people send funds directly to those designated in need. This would eliminate large piles of money. This will be the topic of another thread. It is based on charity, rather than coercion. It would also remove power from leftwing politicians
Government photo and/or fingerprint or retinal ID would be used for all voting. No drop boxes. Only verified mail-in voting. Very limited early voting.
Illegal immigration would be stopped cold. Legal immigration requirements would be relaxed for countries for which they are onerous.
Recreational drugs once again illegalized.

Which is why this nation will never be one with you in charge..We like our freedom to exercise free will given to us by God.

 

[Mashmont]

All of them. They are repressive.

You oppose because you're a leftist. Not because they violate Jewish teaching.
Ask yourself how many laws you'll like when the atheist Marxists take over the country.

 

[Mashmont]

Which is why this nation will never be one with you in charge..We like our freedom to exercise free will given to us by God.

I have to laugh when people think atheists will ever allow any sort of free will.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Does his philosophy put life above all else? Is he known for his stance on protecting the unborn?

Fetus Phantasy

The "unborn" is as much a chimera as The Undead. Some of Ayn Rand's stands are sound. How come only Lefties here believe in a woman's control over pregnancy? Why isn't the hysteria over abortion as silly and weepy as those crying over the cutting down of trees?

 

[Meriweather]

Why isn't the hysteria over abortion as silly and weepy as those crying over the cutting down of trees?

You may be the only one seeing hysteria. If a woman has no wish to be pregnant, there is birth control and there is abstinence. Once life begins...there should be sadness when one gives it no more consideration than removing a weed. Human life is much more valuable than that. Perhaps the hysteria you are describing comes from within?

 

[Mashmont]

All of them. They are repressive.

You said you are an observant Jew. Which of the laws mentioned in my OP are in violation of Judaist teachings? I'm guessing you won't answer that.

 

[Bezukhov]

Which is why this nation will never be one with you in charge..We like our freedom to exercise free will given to us by God.

But... but... but you're denying Mushmouth the opportunity of exercising his freewill to to deny you you your freewill

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Once life begins..

The entire practical basis Mashmont could even contemplate promoting the creation of a fascist Christian nation in the name of Jesus Christ is premised entirely on your notion of “once life begins“ according to your personal religious beliefs and your religious beliefs alone.

You should not seek to apply your religious beliefs in a secularly mixed with religion society living under a constitution where the freedom of religion is a fundamental right. It is just wrong to do so.

I say as a practical matter because Mashmont is a Catholic and the more absurd aspect of his proposal is that he has even admitted he represents only half of the Catholics in the United States. You must agree that is a very small number of constituents that should be able to dictate to the majority the rules of Catholicism into our nation’s laws.

What Mashmont has done is hitched his dreamed up movement of militant Catholics to the long standing established white evangelical Christian nationalist militant movement in this country because they agree that life begins at conception
And Jesus is a savior.

This union provides a basis for claiming there are enough voters in the country to do away with the first amendment and set about creating a Christian nation.

You sound like a reasonable person and you are married to an atheist you say so I find it hard to understand why do you support this egregious assault on American freedom.

 

[Meriweather]

The entire practical basis @Mashmont could even contemplate promoting the creation of a fascist Christian nation in the name of Jesus Christ is premised entirely on your notion of “once life begins“ according to your personal religious beliefs and your religious beliefs alone.

You attribute my position on life a religious belief! I grew up in a large family, where babies were always arriving at the most inconvenient times. Which one of my brothers and sisters (or me) should have been aborted? My brother was only four months old when my mom became pregnant with me. Ask anyone with a four-month-old whether they would like to be pregnant again so soon....

Look at anyone in your own family. Who would you want aborted? And what say you....how would you feel if your parents told you another baby was inconvenient and so they would get rid of it--it was in everyone's best interest.

Each life holds great value.

 

[Meriweather]

You should not seek to apply your religious beliefs in a secularly mixed with religion society living under a constitution where the freedom of religion is a fundamental right. It is just wrong to do so.

We have already established that it is not a religious belief, but my position as an American citizen (or a citizen of anywhere for that matter). As an American citizen can I speak out about why abortion is wrong? Or am I required to nod along that ending an innocent life is the right and proper decision for that life? When it comes to abortion, do you imagine your fellow citizens as cookie stamps of one another, all in agreement with you?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

You may be the only one seeing hysteria. If a woman has no wish to be pregnant, there is birth control and there is abstinence. Once life begins...there should be sadness when one gives it no more consideration than removing a weed. Human life is much more valuable than that. Perhaps the hysteria you are describing comes from within?

The Deadly Consequences of Truly Believing in This Imaginary Sin

It is inconsistent to be against abortion and favor birth control, which also denies "leaving it up to God."

It is inconsistent to "murder the baby" in order to save the life of the "mother."

It is inconsistent to allow abortions in cases of rape or incense. If those lead to pregnancy, you have to believe that is God's will. But you don't really believe in what you preach; sadistic Puritanism is what motivates you. Hunt any witches lately?

 

[Mashmont]

The Deadly Consequences of Truly Believing in This Imaginary Sin

It is inconsistent to be against abortion and favor birth control, which also denies "leaving it up to God."

It is inconsistent to "murder the baby" in order to save the life of the "mother."

It is inconsistent to allow abortions in cases of rape or incense. If those lead to pregnancy, you have to believe that is God's will. But you don't really believe in what you preach; sadistic Puritanism is what motivates you. Hunt any witches lately?

Sounds like the official Catholic position is perfectly consistent then. Which is always is.

 

[Mashmont]

But... but... but you're denying Mushmouth the opportunity of exercising his freewill to to deny you you your freewill

Wait till you see what the atheists have in store for your free will. With Christianity, there is always free will. In essence, I am demanding you have the opportunity to be free.

And the name is Mashmont. Please don't slur my name. I don't slur yours.

 

[Meriweather]

You sound like a reasonable person and you are married to an atheist you say so I find it hard to understand why do you support this egregious assault on American freedom.

If I recall correctly, I already told Mashmont a Catholic theocracy already failed, as have theocracies of Judaism, Islam, other sects of Christianity. And this was back in the days when these leaders were as well versed in wars and politics as they were in faith. Faith does not flourish as it should when its leaders are distracted by political and military issues.

Our democracy, our Republic, is failing as well. It will fall just as the Greeks and Romans failed. The reason for this is that wealth and power are ceased by those in political positions. Our politicians are not servants. Take a look at our political families: Clinton, Bush, Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Sanders, and so many others. They gained millions while in public office. If they were servants all that gain should have been poured back into public coffers because a true democracy calls them servants. Servants don't gain wealth and power while their employers do without.

Thousands of years ago, our ancestors recognized all human government is doomed to fail. That is why apocalyptic literature was so well loved back in the days even before Christ. It was a dream that God, Himself, might come down to earth and govern rightly, because even good Kings (like David) were eventually doomed to failure.

The Catholic faith has helped me in my personal life. Those who hate the faith would do well to insure it becomes the government because that insures it will destroy itself. We of the Catholic faith dodged a bullet back in the Days of the Enlightenment (which also failed).

Government will never learn: Leave the people alone. Let the people take care of the poor and homeless in their midst. Protect the borders, the roads, etc. of the Nation so that the people may live and work in peace. Today is such a good example of the government and business elite giving orders and mandates just as if they own the people.