Laws I Would Enact in an Officially Christian United States Government

[Mashmont]

I know exactly what I believe. Enlighten my on how I don't follow Judaism. I could use the humour.

You disagree with laws I propose which are in accordance with Judaic teaching.

 

[koshergrl]

Here are a few beneficial changes that would be made under a Christian United States government. So many problems would vanish overnight with this legislation. Many more would reduce over time. There could be more. These were just a few things I thought of initially. Really common sense stuff, basically a return to 1950s television, an era when families were stronger and children became independent earlier, and societal norms opposed sex outside marriage. A time when top shows were Donna Reed and Leave it to Beaver. A time when it was the norm to attend church, there were the most priests and sisters and Catholic schools in history.

This could be a reality, folks, if enough of us think about it, work towards it, and pray hard. They never though Roe v Wade would fall, and now look what is happening, so it CAN be done!


In the Schools:
Christian/Catholic sexual morality taught from the earliest grades:
1. Human lives are of supreme importance. Animals are subordinate,
2. Sex is only permissible through marriage
3. Birth control will not be discussed, nor will condoms be distributed in the schools.
4. Sex education would be replaced with sensible teaching on dating which would include recommendations of:
..... a. Relatively early curfew times
..... b. No passionate kissing prior to marriage
.....c. Emphasis on getting to know the other person
.....d. Duggar-style side hugs, rather than frontal.

Ten Commandments, crosses, and crucifixes may be displayed.
School prayer allowed and encouraged.
Christmas may be celebrated. Christian themed decorations may be used
Christian-themed Christmas plays may be performed.
Racist CRT banned.
Prominent Americans returned to the history books. Lives of the greatest canonized saints would be added in order to inspire children.
Christian schools would be strengthened.
All leftwing/ Marxist propaganda removed from schools and universities. Overt Marxists teachers would either reform or be dismissed.
No alcohol allowed in university dorms which house underaged students. (You might be amazed this is allowed in many or most freshman dorms).


In movies and television:

• Nudity is banned.
• Depictions of sex outside marriage banned
• Foul language banned
• Graphic physical harm depictions banned
• Only nuclear family depictions: Parents married.
• Depictions of cohabitation banned.
• Gay sex acts are banned.

In media:
No legislation may be pushed by a news outlet that violates Christian moral teaching. Abortion, rioting, extra rights for gays or trans, pitting women against men may not be advocated. Basically any promotion of the issues Marxist atheists use to divide and undermine the country will be banned.

In commerce and law:
Pornography banned.
Abortion mills illegal.
Mexico City Policy made permanent.
Most government domestic programs will be shut down, and a private sharing program would be established where people send funds directly to those designated in need. This would eliminate large piles of money. This will be the topic of another thread. It is based on charity, rather than coercion. It would also remove power from leftwing politicians
Government photo and/or fingerprint or retinal ID would be used for all voting. No drop boxes. Only verified mail-in voting. Very limited early voting.
Illegal immigration would be stopped cold. Legal immigration requirements would be relaxed for countries for which they are onerous.
Recreational drugs once again illegalized.

Yeah but remember the Anabaptists did not want a "Christian" government because a "Christian" government run by non Christians is a terrifying thing. For freedom (and Christianity) to work it must be totally free and voluntary.
But you don't need laws to force schools to teach the ideology of the parents' choice. This is the big fight that is going on right now...Schools think that because they are seen as *necessary*, they can teach whatever they want. But school boards and adminicreepers can be brought to heel. It doesn't require a change of government, you just have to yank their funding.

 

[AsherN]

You disagree with laws I propose which are in accordance with Judaic teaching.

Just wow. Because one does not want to see repressive laws imposed on the general population does not mean they don't follow stricter rules in their personal lives. And you still have no clue on the laws in Judaism.

 

[Mashmont]

Yeah but remember the Anabaptists did not want a "Christian" government because a "Christian" government run by non Christians is a terrifying thing. For freedom (and Christianity) to work it must be totally free and voluntary.
But you don't need laws to force schools to teach the ideology of the parents' choice. This is the big fight that is going on right now...Schools think that because they are seen as *necessary*, they can teach whatever they want. But school boards and adminicreepers can be brought to heel. It doesn't require a change of government, you just have to yank their funding.

The only reason I want to designate Christianity is to eliminate atheist laws which harm us all. Many laws are either Christian or atheist. The government has to pick one. I'm tired of them picking the atheist one because they " can't have religion in government".

 

[Mashmont]

Just wow. Because one does not want to see repressive laws imposed on the general population does not mean they don't follow stricter rules in their personal lives. And you still have no clue on the laws in Judaism.

Sorry you think Judaic laws are repressive. But then don't claim to be a devout Jew.

 

[Zincwarrior]

The only reason I want to designate Christianity is to eliminate atheist laws which harm us all. Many laws are either Christian or atheist. The government has to pick one. I'm tired of them picking the atheist one because they " can't have religion in government".

You define "atheist" as anything you disagree with, and then want it banned. Thats why the other conservatives on this board are afraid of your proposal. Its also why the Founders were opposed to it. They - or their ancestors - had witnessed it firsthand.

 

[koshergrl]

The only reason I want to designate Christianity is to eliminate atheist laws which harm us all. Many laws are either Christian or atheist. The government has to pick one. I'm tired of them picking the atheist one because they " can't have religion in government".

We can have religion in government in terms of using government to support decency and morality. Sadly atheists think those traits are primarily Christian (they are right) and so they target Christians with their (illegal) laws. The way to fix it isn't to change the form of government...it's to just hold fast to the original form and function of the government.
Our forefathers knew that our government could only work effectively under Christian sensibility.

 

[AsherN]

Sorry you think Judaic laws are repressive. But then don't claim to be a devout Jew.

They are not repressive for me. They would be for you. would you be fine if instead of your religious laws, we went with my religious laws as the law of the land?

 

[koshergrl]

You define "atheist" as anything you disagree with, and then want it banned. Thats why the other conservatives on this board are afraid of your proposal. Its also why the Founders were opposed to it. They - or their ancestors - had witnessed it firsthand.

The forefathers weren't opposed to it. Thomas Jefferson wanted to establish Christianity as the national religion. The Anabaptists talked him out of it because THEY knew what happened when faith is compulsory. Atheism is a faith for most of the so-called atheists, which is why nations with compulsory ATHEISM have the highest murder rate of all the other faiths combined.

 

[Mashmont]

They are not repressive for me. They would be for you. would you be fine if instead of your religious laws, we went with my religious laws as the law of the land?

My laws do not violate Jewish teaching. Yet you object to them, you say, because of your Judaism. That makes no sense.

 

[Mashmont]

We can have religion in government in terms of using government to support decency and morality. Sadly atheists think those traits are primarily Christian (they are right) and so they target Christians with their (illegal) laws. The way to fix it isn't to change the form of government...it's to just hold fast to the original form and function of the government.
Our forefathers knew that our government could only work effectively under Christian sensibility.

So you're saying rulings like Roe v Wade are illegal?

 

[WinterBorn]

I lived with my wife a full year before we married. we have been married for 38 years. we have good friends that are unmarried and have been together over 35 years.

So now you are the arbiter of what is permitted behaviour in the privacy of one's home?

In November my girlfriend and I will celebrate 10 years together. It has been some of the happiest times of my life.

 

[AsherN]

My laws do not violate Jewish teaching. Yet you object to them, you say, because of your Judaism. That makes no sense.

You seem to not be able to understand that the laws I live my life under are more restrictive than the laws of the land. And that I'm perfectly fine with that because I recognize that they are not for everybody. I live under more restrictive Jewish laws than a lot of other Jews. Jews are commended to be a light unto the nations. Because of that and because of our history, we have historically fought for the freedom of others. Jews were at the forefront of the Civil Right movements, for example.

I object to your laws as a Jew because they are repressive. Because you do not have the right to impose your version of morality on others.

 

[koshergrl]

So you're saying rulings like Roe v Wade are illegal?

Oh yes. Definitely. It has nothing to do with religion, however. It has to do with the fact that the ruling was illegal.

 

[WinterBorn]

Anecdotes don't make a trend. Studies show the opposite of your anecdote. Sex before marriage is linked with more failed marriages. And shackups also have more failures. Actions have consequences whether you believe they do or not. It has nothing to do with what I want or say.

And once again, (for the 21st time) you complain about my dictating what you can or can't do. But atheist regimes, which is where we are headed will dictate EVERYTHING for you. And none of it will be what you want.

You keep threatening what the atheist regimes will do. And you keep talking about how much of an atheist society we have become.

And yet, there are no threats against us like you are promising.

 

[Mashmont]

Oh yes. Definitely. It has nothing to do with religion, however. It has to do with the fact that the ruling was illegal.

I see you're point. You say the goal should be to eliminate the illegal atheist rulings.

 

[koshergrl]

You keep threatening what the atheist regimes will do. And you keep talking about how much of an atheist society we have become.

And yet, there are no threats against us like you are promising.

Wrong.

 

[koshergrl]

I see you're point. You say the goal should be to eliminate the illegal atheist rulings.

Yep.
Apply the law and adhere to the Constitution.

 

[WinterBorn]

Maybe you should move to an atheist country like North Korea or China. See what a repressive regime is like.

No, I should stay here and live with the freedom our brilliant forefathers built for us. A place where your theocratic ideals are soundly defeated at every turn.

Just ask Judge Roy Moore.

 

[Mashmont]

You keep threatening what the atheist regimes will do. And you keep talking about how much of an atheist society we have become.

And yet, there are no threats against us like you are promising.

Oh, we're getting there all right. And when it happens, it will be instantaneous. You'll turn on to watch CNN and it won't be there.