Let's face it: America kind of sucks

[Big Bend Texas]

As my source pointed out, accessibility for healthcare is higher in many other countries. The facts are what they are.

I quoted your statement word for word.

Where is this supposed majority in the US that lacks access?

 

[gipper]

All these things considered, yes, America kind of sucks. I mean the lie is definitely American exceptionalism. Is 13th place good enough for you?! That’s kind of crazy. I mean 13th place does suck even if numbers are lower lol

There are major problems in this country. Apparently saying so means you should leave, to some Americans. These problems include having a demented old fool in the WH, but they go much deeper than that.

We’ve allowed the extreme wealthy to control the government, media, and other institutions with their money. This is the source of the problem. We’ve become a corporatist neo-Fascist warmongering state.

$40 billion plus to one of the world’s most corrupt nations to promote a proxy war with Russia, should clue in all Americans but it doesn’t. Many on the right and left support this lunacy.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I quoted your statement word for word.

Where is this supposed majority in the US that lacks access?

The one in his head?

 

[Unkotare]

Let's face it, the OP sucks and this is nothing but a troll thread.

 

[CommieKillingMommy]

Let's face it: America kind of sucks

YOU kinda suck you pussy. If America sucks at all its because of losers like you. Don't like it? Then get the fuck out

 

[Whodatsaywhodat.]

So...what country ya movin' to?

The same one Madonna, and the American hating women on the view are going to! They ain't going anywhere.. just spoiled brats ... hating on America.

 

[Muhammed]

My post proves that critical aspects are embarrassing in comparison to other first world nations.

No it doesn't, dumbass. Making a shitload of unsupported assertions regarding America proves nothing except that you're an idiot and a liar.

 

[Likkmee]

Do as I am doing and leave…

Better late than never.I left when " he tried to kill mah daddy" enactected Patriot "act" second edition.

 

[gipper]

Republicans like to pretend that the US is the best country in the world in every way because they cannot stand the thought of other countries doing something better than us. However, the main flaws the US has are much of less of issues in other first world countries.

1) Our healthcare system is garbage with or without ObamaCare.

Republicans like to harp on ObamaCare and pretend that it is rhe reason why our system sucks, but when you ask them the simple of question of "well, was our system good before ObamaCare?", they will refuse to answer. Secretly they know that our healthcare system has always sucked but they will not admit that out loud. But hell, at least ACA improved it to some degree. Republicans secretly like the idea of their healthcare coverage not being denied because of pre-existing conditions, but its another thing they will not admit out loud. Obama came up with it so the knee jerk reaction is that it is terrible.

I also want to point out the myth that republicans have about other first world healthcare systems. They pretend that wait lists run rampant for basic care and that these people suffer. That's of course not true. Systems in Western Europe, Australia, Japan, South Korea are all quite high functioning even if they are not perfect.

Here's all the ways comparable, first world national healthcare systems are superior to the US's:

A. Life expectancy is better
B. Premature death rates are lower.
C. Less suffering with long term chronic diseases
D. Healthcare quality and access is far better
E. Maternal morality rates are better.
G. Hospital rates are lower for chronic diseases.
H. Post-operative complications are lower in prevalence.
I. Medication and procedure errors are lower.

And oh yeah, this is thanks to socialized medicine rather than shitty for-profit healthcare very few people can afford.

Now you say that the US does have state of the art treatments in some examples, but this hardly matters if the large majority of the population does not have access to this ridiculously expensive care and the overall nation suffers in areas where it matters most.

How does the quality of the U.S. health system compare to other countries? - Peterson-KFF Health System Tracker

Despite spending more money per capita on healthcare than any similarly large and wealthy nation, the United States has a lower life expectancy than peer nations and has seen worsening health outcomes since the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic. This chart collection combines various measures of...

www.healthsystemtracker.org

2. Infrastructure systems are better in comparable nations.

A. The US ranks 13th in infrastructure quality in the world.
B. Only 2% of our GDP spending goes to infrastructure.
C. Airports in other countries are better.
D. High speed rail in the US is half of the speed of comparable countries.
E. Internet connection is much better in other countries.
F. Our roads are shitty in comparison to these other nations. Traffic jams are less severe in such nations.

That's far from "American exceptionalism." Hell, Biden gets credit for at least passing a law making improvements even if it was not enough.



3. Gun violence in the US is far greater than in other countries like Australia, the UK, and Canada.

A. Mass shootings are far more common in the US than other politically stable countries.
B. Gun murders account for 79% of all murders in the US. In Canada it is 37%, Australia 13%, and the UK is 4%
C. Gun deaths per capita are FAR higher than in other countries.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

www.bloomberg.com

4) Wealth inequality is one of the worst in the world.

In 2020, the top 20% of the population earned 52.2% of all U.S. income. The median household income fell significantly for the first time since 2011 to $67,521. That's 2.9% down from 2019's number. The richest of the rich, the top 5%, earned 23% of all income.

The Cause of Income Inequality in America

U.S. income inequality has worsened significantly in the past 30 years. What does income inequality look like in the United States and what are the causes?

www.thebalance.com

5) Poverty rates are lower in other counties.

Denmark, Finland, and Sweden are proof that poverty in the US doesn't have to be this high

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Conclusion: America kind of sucks. I know inevitably the response I am going to get to this thread will be somewhere along the lines of "if you don't like it here, leave!" Well see the truth of the matter is that I think America is great in some ways and I would rather stay here and fix what is wrong with it.

“The famous Princeton study from ‘14 showing the people’s will has near zero effect on what government does & that outcomes are almost entirely driven by big $ & private interest groups is the skeleton key that explains EVERYTHING going on in America right now.

Nothing Americans want happens unless it agrees with corporate interests.”

 

[gipper]

I quoted your statement word for word.

Where is this supposed majority in the US that lacks access?

This is evident to any American willing to be honest and refuse to accept the propaganda pushed by the media, elite, and ruling class.​

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Princeton Study: U.S. No Longer An Actual Democracy​

A new study from Princeton spells bad news for American democracy—namely, that it no longer exists.

Asking “[w]ho really rules?” researchers Martin Gilens and Benjamin I. Page arguesthat over the past few decades America’s political system has slowly transformed from a democracy into an oligarchy, where wealthy elites wield most power.

Using data drawn from over 1,800 different policy initiatives from 1981 to 2002, the two conclude that rich, well-connected individuals on the political scene now steer the direction of the country, regardless of or even against the will of the majority of voters.

Princeton Study: U.S. No Longer An Actual Democracy

 

[DBA]

Nah, Norway sounds so much better.

They have a pretty strict immigration system. Weird huh?

 

[CowboyTed]

Do you think Americas death rates and such suck because Americans LOVE fast food, cigarettes and alcohol?

Americans aren't biggest smokers (68th)

Tobacco consumption by country - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Alcohol Consumption (39th)

Tobacco consumption by country - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Obesity (Well yes, 12th)

Tobacco consumption by country - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

US has epidemic obesity rates and is doing little to tackle it...

I have Diabytes 2 in Ireland. All Diabetics drugs are free (no income test, everyone) including Ozempic, now considered the wonder drug. My numbers are normal and are and I tested regularly for free. The government here believe that properly managed Diabetes can not be the burden on the health system here.
Ozempic in the US is $1000 a month... UK over the counter price is about $200...

EU countries deal in mass pricing and get major discounts for it...

That is the difference, sugar taxes are being introduced as well to help pay for all of this.

 

[francoHFW]

Voting Democrat is not fixing anything.

until they get actual control, and not during the usual corrupt stupid GOP recession/depression they start with.....

 

[DBA]

Just wanted to see if you could list any.

They come to America because there is a fucking ocean between them and any other good place to go

If they could get there, do you think they could just walk across the border to this other countries?

 

[CowboyTed]

This is evident to any American willing to be honest and refuse to accept the propaganda pushed by the media, elite, and ruling class.​

​

Princeton Study: U.S. No Longer An Actual Democracy​

A new study from Princeton spells bad news for American democracy—namely, that it no longer exists.

Asking “[w]ho really rules?” researchers Martin Gilens and Benjamin I. Page arguesthat over the past few decades America’s political system has slowly transformed from a democracy into an oligarchy, where wealthy elites wield most power.

Using data drawn from over 1,800 different policy initiatives from 1981 to 2002, the two conclude that rich, well-connected individuals on the political scene now steer the direction of the country, regardless of or even against the will of the majority of voters.

Princeton Study: U.S. No Longer An Actual Democracy

What do you expect when you have first past the post voting in single seat districts...

Everyone is voting against there worst fears not for who they want...

Just look at the negativity in every election... Most people spend more time knocking the other side than trying to actually come with a proper constructed idea from there own side...

This all comes from the voting system... It is better to destroy you opponents chances than actually get people to vote for you... Fear is the best motivator, lot better than actually putting forward a policy that might work....

 

[DBA]

until they get actual control, and not during the usual corrupt stupid GOP recession/depression they start with.....

This would only be good for the moochers and that wouldn’t last long either.

 

[francoHFW]

They have a pretty strict immigration system. Weird huh?

They all have ORGANIZATION and ID cards, like the Dem 2010 immigation bill, Your masters actually love the cheap easily bullied labor, dupe.

 

[gipper]

What do you expect when you have first past the post voting in single seat districts...

Everyone is voting against there worst fears not for who they want...

Just look at the negativity in every election... Most people spend more time knocking the other side than trying to actually come with a proper constructed idea from there own side...

This all comes from the voting system... It is better to destroy you opponents chances than actually get people to vote for you... Fear is the best motivator, lot better than actually putting forward a policy that might work....

So right no…..?

'It's so important that the public have no real say in US politics that the empire not only set up two oligarchic puppet parties which pretend to oppose each other but also set up fake populist movements within those parties which pretend to be fighting the establishment'

 

[BS Filter]

until they get actual control, and not during the usual corrupt stupid GOP recession/depression they start with.....

Propaganda. The price of gas and groceries belongs to Democrats.

 

[francoHFW]

This would only be good for the moochers and that wouldn’t last long either.

They're fine, this is about the middle and working classes...tax the rich again and invest in America again.